Massacre Justification 187


There is a concerted media ploy to change the narrative on the massacre of hundreds of women and children in Gaza, on the grounds that it is Hamas’ fault for breaking the ceasefire. The Israeli account of the ceasefire breakdown is parroted relentlessly.

I have put some effort into discovering why the ceasefire broke down, including contacting sources in Gaza itself. What is plain is that there were multiple incidents shortly after the ceasefire deadline, of violations by both sides. This is actually normal – such ceasefires usually take a few hours to take hold as fighting in hot progress and operations under way get stopped. At leasy eleven Palestinians were killed by shellfire in the first hour after the ceasefire.

The media has however focused solely on a single incident, that which featured missing Israeli Lieutenant Goldin. What appears to have happened here was that the Israelis were continuing with their destruction of tunnels, as the ceasefire provisions allowed. They came across a group of Palestinian fighters sheltered in the tunnels, and not surprisingly the Palestinian fighters did not interpret the ceasefire as meaning the Israelis could kill them but they were precluded from fighting. In the ensuing firefight some on both sides were killed and injured, while Lt. Goldin has disappeared.

Incidentally it is worth noting that my information is that Hamas’ statement that the incident was a deliberate ambush, and occurred before the ceasefire, is also untrue.

The Israelis immediately called in massive shellfire and missile attack. It is not improbable Goldin was killed or wounded in the firefight – or possibly just hiding – and he and his body destroyed by an Israeli shell or missile. It is a sad norm of warfare that sometimes there is no recognisable body.

Why we are supposed to be more concerned about Goldin than about the twenty Palestinian children who have been killed since he vanished, is beyond me. But you see, killing those children is now OK again, because Hamas broke the ceasefire. The media have a nice narrative mapped out for them – and boy, are they milking it.


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  • Resident Dissident

    “Just as the MSM achieves synchronicity, so do these 32 metronomes. Compelling to watch.”

    Must be so annoying for you that you cannot achieve the same here.

  • Resident Dissident

    “Has anyone noticed the hypocrisy of it all.

    Secretary of State, John Kerry, wants Russia to withdraw from Crimea. Yet, at the same time when Israel has built beyond the 1967 borders – not a peep from him about the illegal settlements.”

    Yes Craig did – and most of the commenters here joined Kerry in his hypocrisy.

  • Mary

    Israeli airstrike massacres family of prominent physician and author

    Posted by The Editors
    August 3, 2014, 8:02 am

    An Israeli airstrike on Khan Younis in southern Gaza massacred nine members of the El-Farra family, including five children, early Friday morning.

    The El-Farra family are relatives of physician Dr. Mona El-Farra, who has been frequently updating The Electronic Intifada on the ever worsening situation there.

    ‘The house was hit with a rocket, and the whole neighborhood started leaving, running in the street’, she told The Electronic Intifada in an interview on Saturday. ‘Another rocket, or missile, struck the children and the women who were running outside of the house.’ The full interview can be listened to via the player at the top of this page and the full transcript is published below.

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/israeli-airstrike-massacres-family-prominent-physician-and-author

    [Six members of the El-Farra family who were killed in their home Friday. Photo montage created by a friend of the family. (Courtesy of the Middle East Children’s Alliance)]

    DC

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1407049345.html

    Imagine the terror.

  • Peacewisher

    @Mary

    Didn’t Mark Thompson get a nice little pay off when he finally left the BBC.

    Another video reminding us of the Thompson days (but has the BBC improved at all since then?):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21MdXe3BOQ

    I remember attending a demonstration outside the BBC later that day. Surprised how many people turned up… 25000 I think, but very little on the mainstream media.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Agent Cameron cannot step out of line. Most of his wealthy donors are Jewish and he has a big election campaign coming up in 9 months’ time.

    He has just given a peerage to the Jewish ex head of M&S Stuart Rose. Another one to ‘Mr Copper’ Michael Farmer, the party treasurer. Farmer has donated +£3m to the Tories. He’s a ‘devout Christian’ and has a son who was a Bullingdon Boy like Cameron, Osborn and Johnson.”
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    Yet another example of sloppiness or, if you will, Mary’s enthusiasm getting past itself.

    While it is true (unfortunately) that most party leaders are careful not to tread on the toes of the big donors to party funds, may I point out that

    – Stuart Rose is not Jewish (factual error there, Mary)

    – Michael Farmer is,, as Mary says herself, a Christian.

    Why, then, does Mary use those two examples to underpin her assertion that “most of Cameron’s big donors are Jewish?

    The first example is not Jewish and the second is a Christian.

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    Habbabkuk for truth and accuracy.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “‘OUCA, which boasts two prime ministers, 13 cabinet ministers and three leaders of the Conservative Party among its alumni, has been a nursery for future Tory stars since it was founded in 1924.”
    _________________

    Just to balance the above (?)cut-and-paste from Mary: there have been more than a dozen Prime Ministers and hundreds of Cabinet ministers since the founding of the Oxford University Conservative Association in 1924.

    It is therefore hardly surprising that two of those PMs and 13 Cabinet ministers have been alumni of the Conservative club for students at one of Britain’s leading universities, is it?

    In fact, I’m surprised that the figures are not substantially higher.

    Could Mary do some internet sleuthing for us, please?

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    Habbabkuk says: Floreat Eton!

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Rehmat

    “Israeli soldier kept their “tunnel operation” during the 72-hour Netanyahu-Abbas ceasefire.”
    ___________________

    Yes, we know that already, thanks – that was actually part of the ceasefire arrangement. Please refer to Craig’s original post:

    “What appears to have happened here was that the Israelis were continuing with their destruction of tunnels, as the ceasefire provisions allowed.”.

  • Peacewisher

    How did the BBC manage to time “The Honourable Woman” so well as to coincide with the current conflict? There is only one realistic answer, but I suppose it doesn’t take much to relight the touchpaper…

  • guano

    Peacewisher

    Yes, Mary 06.31 put up a link to Ed Miliband being a Zionist which clearly states his family reasons for supporting Israel. But as a socialist he is a different kind of Zionist from even his brother, David, or William Hague, Matthew Gould who are part of this lying-beyond-the-imagination-of-ordinary-people NWO Zionism which includes Political Islam.

    Dare I say it, Habbabkuk, with his disgusting and unwarrantied ad feminems against Mary, is right in my opinion to ridicule this two-dimensional bird-cage image of Gaza in which Hamas and the citizens of Gaza are the good guys and Israel is the bad guy.

    No. The world is 3 dimensional. Hamas is not any part of the people of Gaza, any more than Musri was part of the people of Egypt. They both won elections on the good slogans of Islam but they were both more closely connected to Zionism in their sponsorship and policies than to Islam. They were USUKIS plants.

    I don’t know if Ed Miliband is part of that out-right-lying strategy of political Islam in which William Hague, David Cameron, Matthew Gould and David Miliband are involved. But it’s important to note that there are different types of Zionist and one of them is Political Islam who have an US/UK/IS 4 year old war of terror on Islam and Muslims in Syria.

  • Mary

    Peacewisher I commented on it a week or so ago. It was virulent anti-Hamas propaganda. Someone said that one of the producers Hugo Blick or Abi Bach was an Anglo Israeli. Can’t remember Shocking isn’t it that the muck is being paid for out of our licence fees. The sooner the BBC is dismantled the better.

  • Peacewisher

    @Mary: I suppose that it wasn’t meant to happen this way with “The Honourable Woman”. The UK “TV world” was supposed to be focused on “those terrible Russians” in the summer, and it would be a good time to slip in a bit of subtle propaganda to counter the four-part Channel 4 programme a couple of years ago.

    Maybe someone else saw the future BBC schedules for July/August and thought Hmmm! Yes, I know this is very dark, but so is what I’ve just read on Craig’s new thread.

    As an optimist, I greatly welcome Ed Miliband’s intervention, and have certainly revised my opinion of Joey Barton.

  • Mary

    Smoothface’s Jewish donors got him into No 10.

    Who will they promote in 2015?

    Israel control of UK government
    Jews fund both Labour and Tories

    May 2009

    On 13 October 2006, The Jewish Chronicle published the article, Team Cameron’s Big Jewish Backers.
    http://www.whale.to/c/jews_fund.html

  • Mary

    So Sir Stuart Rose (Bryantzeff) is not Jewish. No of course he isn’t. You have to be a gentile to get to the top in M&S.

    M&S boss gives ORT top marks
    April 11, 2008

    Marks & Spencer chief executive Sir Stuart Rose compared his company’s values to those of educational charity ORT when he addressed a British ORT business breakfast at the Park Lane Hotel last Friday.
    http://www.thejc.com/community/community-life/ms-boss-gives-ort-top-marks

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_ORT

  • Mary

    I did not know that Dr Mona el Farra eight of whose family members were wiped out is the aunt of Laila al Haddad.

    ‘Testimony at US Congress

    Dr. El-Farra is the aunt of author and journalist Laila El-Haddad, who testified about the massacre during a Congressional briefing Friday on US complicity in Israel’s onslaught on Gaza, which at the time of publication had claimed nearly 1,700 lives there.

    “I woke up this morning and I learned that my tax dollars killed eight of my family members in Gaza. They were given an eight-second warning,” El-Haddad stated to members of Congress.’

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/israeli-airstrike-massacres-family-prominent-physician-and-author

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    STOP THE SLAUGHTER. STOP THE CRIME. FREE! FREE PALESTINE!
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  • Resident Dissident

    “Israel control of UK government
    Jews fund both Labour and Tories”

    “So Sir Stuart Rose (Bryantzeff) is not Jewish. No of course he isn’t. You have to be a gentile to get to the top in M&S.”

    Yet again Lady Dorking uses the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza to drop the nicety of the distinction she normally employs between anti-zionism and anti-semitism. And Habba and I are the ones she calls slimeballs.

  • Sam

    Good day Mr. Murray,

    You have made a proviso in your article suggesting that Hamas had violated the ceasefire. However, there is strong evidence that Israel was not observing in in the first place:-

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/did-israeli-army-deliberately-kill-its-own-captured-soldier-and-destroy-gaza

    It appears that to the Israelis, “ceasefire” means only the other side ceases fire, while the Zionist army continues its aggression. As you have noted, resistance fighters did not know that being killed without the right of self-defence was part of the ceasefire deal, and the Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal insists that – if there were such a clause – Hamas never signed up to it. Please see his statement in an interview with CNN:-

    “The Palestinian resistance has the right to self-defense and the right to deal with the invading Israeli forces who are inside our Gaza territories,” Meshaal said in an exclusive interview from Doha, Qatar. He added that Hamas expressed its position to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry via Qatar’s Foreign Minister.

    “We did not deceive Mr. John Kerry, and we did not deceive the Israelis, we fight honorably,” he said. “We told everyone that this is our position. … Therefore they are the ones who should be responsible for this.”

    http://myfox8.com/2014/08/02/israeli-shells-pound-gaza-as-fate-of-missing-soldier-remains-unknown/

    It is noteworthy that nearly everything Hamas said about the dissapearance of Hadar Goldin was subsequently proven to be true while all that the Israelis had said was proven false. The feigned indignation by Tel Aviv and Obama and his administration have been forced to swallow their own words, but not before all the hooha provided justification for Israel to kill and maim several hundred more Palestinian civilians.

  • Resident Dissident

    “So Sir Stuart Rose (Bryantzeff) is not Jewish. No of course he isn’t. You have to be a gentile to get to the top in M&S.”

    So Lady Dorking will be able to demonstrate that the last 4 CEOs of M&S i.e. Lucvandevelde, Roger Holmes, Stuart Rose and Marc Bolland were all Jewish?

  • harry law

    Habbabkuk Wants to know if I am volunteering to damage the ICC building in the Hague if they refuse to investigate the war crimes in Gaza. I would like to inform him that to threaten to do so is a criminal offence in breach of the Terrorism Act 2000. Or to encourage others to do it is a criminal offence in breach of the Encouragement to Terrorism Act 2006.The Police and security services monitor all these comments and would not hesitate to prosecute, if they thought they had a case. Habbabkuk you are a troll of the worst order.

  • Resident Dissident

    “The Police and security services monitor all these comments and would not hesitate to prosecute, if they thought they had a case.”

    I doubt they would bother with the feeble minded.

  • nevermind, it will happen anyway

    Well said Harry, he’s probably here to present the MI’s with ‘real hard evidence’ of his own making.

  • Fedup

    I doubt they would bother with the feeble minded.

    An obvious retort from an obvious operative.

    Which signals unit are you attached to?

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    Sam very true;

    “The Palestinian resistance has the right to self-defense and the right to deal with the invading Israeli forces who are inside our Gaza territories,” Meshaal said in an exclusive interview from Doha, Qatar. He added that Hamas expressed its position to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry via Qatar’s Foreign Minister.

    “We did not deceive Mr. John Kerry, and we did not deceive the Israelis, we fight honorably,” he said. “We told everyone that this is our position. … Therefore they are the ones who should be responsible for this.”

    The stark fact that is going missing, is that the fascist zionist scum as a matter of policy would rather kill their own, to head off any probable advantages gained by Hamas. By the subsequent release of hundreds of Palestinians from the zionists jails. A dead operative is much more easier to deal with, than a live and kicking POW so far as the net-an yahoo is concerned, so in both case of the capture of the oh so brave zionist scum in uniform, first the world has been told of “kidnapping” (this is the standard to which English language is undermined when it deals with all things zionists) and then after lots of brouhaha, the said “kidnapped” are then found to be dead.

  • Resident Dissident

    Which signals unit are you attached to?

    The one that deals with the highly paranoid and those that stray into an offside position at my kid’s football.

  • Fedup

    The one that deals with the highly paranoid and those that stray into an offside position at my kid’s football.

    There! The squealer cannot even leave the little kids to get on with a bit of good old fashioned cheating.

    Paranoid? Obviously Snowden’s material is getting filtered out, wherever you are at; clattering away.

  • Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    “And Habba and I are the ones she calls slimeballs.”

    You two are virtually indistinguishable. Driving by with your window down, issuing epithets and spitballs that often fly back in your face,

    Then you speed off to avoid cleaning up your own spittle. Road Rage should be your name.

  • Fedup

    Road Rage should be your name.

    Ben you are in a good mod there, it ought to be pissy rage!

    Really talk about no one is monitoring this board, The self inflicted prophet left right and centre is asking people if they have this and the other, and everyone ought to let it know about their names, addresses, and distinguishing marks and tattoos, as well as would anyone awfully mind to get this swab done and spit into this little cup (just for the reasons of DNA that is all).

    I remember Jon the mod asking me to write about myself more!!!!! A CV if you will!!!!!

    Man us goyem cattle must be looked upon really poorly in the eyes of these oh so superior chosen lot.

  • Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    Fedup; My flechette appendage speaks for itself. Walk softly but carry a big stick. But even cattle should be treated humanely. It’s only Kosher to do so.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Harry Law

    “Habbabkuk Wants to know if I am volunteering to damage the ICC building in the Hague if they refuse to investigate the war crimes in Gaza.”
    _____________________

    You can’t even remember what you wrote yesterday, can you.

    You didn’t suggest that the ICC building should be “damaged” – you said it should be “blown up”.

    That is encouragement of terrorism, Harry.

    Be careful.

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