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“J K Rowling’s always been batshit insane, this is nothing new”.
“Why are people just surprised about J K Rowling now – she has been this mental for years.”
“The, I presume, mentally ill, J K Rowling”
“J K Rowling should get F back to England”
“Don’t feel too bad for that lunatic J K Rowling” – followed by a sexual reference to her partner.

The newspapers would be full of stories tomorrow about this dreadful cyber-abuse. But that will not happen because all those tweets were about me, and all sent within the last twenty minutes, from identifiable unionist tweeters, some well known. Substitute Craig Murray for J K Rowling and they are verbatim. Just do a twitter search on craig murray and see for yourself.

I have never much been into Twitter. When I post here it is automatically tweeted, that is all. It is only today I realised how much you can see of twitter conversations and the interesting links between people. I had not realised that the execrable Carl Gardner, former very junior government lawyer and anti-Assange campaigner, has such warm links with anti-Muslim pro-torture campaigner Douglas Murray of the Henry Jackson Society, Vice President Jim Murphy. And how very interesting to see Blair MacDougall, Ross McTernan, Allan Massie, Euan Mccolm and numerous others from Scotland’s corporate media, all tweeting each other about how absolutely ridiculous it is to believe that the UK state would ever be involved in anything nefarious.

The same people were, of course, tweeting each other euphorically about how fantastically Jim Murphy had demolished Nicola Sturgeon in the leaders’ debates. It subsequently turned out nobody in the country saw it the same way as their smug little gang. I fear they will find the same is true now. Indeed, in the two hours since I posted, over twice as many people have already read about the false flag schemes, as the entire membership of Scottish Labour. That is more than the circulation of the Scotsman. There’s a thought.

The same people, of course, told you I was lying when I blew the whistle on torture and extraordinary rendition in 2004. The security services and the British Government would never do such a thing, they said. I was insane, they said.

Everybody now knows that I was telling the truth about torture and extraordinary rendition, and the Labour Government and the establishment shills were the liars. I am telling the truth again now and they are lying again now.


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  • Macky

    If only I had a pound every time Clark has stated I’m a shill for the Kremlin ! 😀

    “Anyone arguing against stereotyping of Russia, its leader and its policies, who substantiates his or her argument with solid reasoning and historical or contemporary fact, must be paid by the Russian government”

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1428934914.html

    I have never called Cark any sort of shill, because he is actually worse, being a blinkered & deluded useful idiot.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    O/T

    David Cromwell (at Media Lens) has been looking at the cancellation of the “International Law and the State of Israel: Legitimacy, Responsibility and Exceptionalism” conference at the University of Southampton.

    http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2015/790-when-free-speech-becomes-dead-silence-the-israel-lobby-and-a-cowed-academia.html

    Also, please find a selection of letters of protest from academics:

    http://freespeechsouthampton.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/a-selection-of-lettersto-university-of.html

    Kind regards,

    John

  • John Goss

    Clark, what happens to the blog after 24 hours varies depending on the subject matter of the post. Some posts have people on-topic (largely) for days with occasional newsworthy items thrown in if important enough. Others become exhausted because everybody has said what they want to say on topic. We know you find people you believe are Kremlin supporters the more objectionable than fascist supporters, which is fair enough. Everybody is entitled to his or her opinion.

    As well as comments like the one at the top of this page I try to keep things balanced. But a little humour too is not out of place either for those who have a sense of humour so when I got the psychic message that Habbabkuk’s employees called him Noddy behind his back I wasted 20 minutes cobbling together and colouring a sketch which has been ignored. It hurts you know! 🙂

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/a-game-of-substitution/comment-page-2/#comment-519748

  • Resident Dissident

    Clearly my policy of giving Mr Goss enough rope to hang himself appears to be working.

    “I do not even think Denmark will join NATO.”

    It is already a member you idiot. And you really think when you make such elementary mistakes that tour views on NATO should carry any weight whatsoever.

    “Even Resident Dissident’s ‘fifth column’ in Russia, the one to which Boris Nemtsov belonged,”

    Please understand that opposition is normal in decent civilised countries – people disagree and are free to do so – labelling them as “fifth columnists” is of course a well known fascist tactic – the term originated with the Spanish variety. That the target for Goss’s bile is an honourable and brave politician who stood up for what he believed really just demonstrates the sewer in which Mr Goss exists.

    “Something in Russia was destroyed when the Soviet Union peacefully capitulated to public demands.”

    But lets of course leave aside what was destroyed while the Soviet Union existed – which of course the useful idiot thinks was very peaceful. Or perhaps Mr Goss is referring to his cheap subsidised bicycle tools?

  • John Goss

    Don’t call me an “idiot” or I’ll come over there and smack you one. 🙂 I meant NATO’s defence mechanism as per the article. And you know it.

    “That the target for Goss’s bile is an honourable and brave politician who stood up for what he believed really just demonstrates the sewer in which Mr Goss exists.”

    You clearly did not read his retweet of Vladislav’s tweet, in a comment of mine on the previous page, the week before he died. Anybody who would be pleased at the death of an honest reporter is a scumbag, though as I said at the time, his assassination was a bad thing and I sympathised with his family, though I did not know the extent of his family at that time. Fascist supporters, as I think you know, are the pits in my opinion.

    But don’t worry too much. I’m not really going to come over there and smack you one. As long as you behave yourself. 🙂

  • John Goss

    Macky, I’m sorry but Noddy does not read beyond the heading and Clark only seems to read articles that fit his agenda, which is against those of us he considers to be Kremlin shrills.

    Do shrills get paid? Or is that just trolls?

  • Clark

    Resident Dissident, yes, John Goss and Macky have discredited themselves in my opinion. However, you would do better to avoid alliance with Habbabkuk and Anon, just as Mary and others would do better to distance themselves from Macky and John Goss.

  • RobG

    And so it goes… the Pacific Ocean dies, and most don’t give a toss.

    Japan is toast, so is most of North America.

    The ‘flu’ that’s been going round in Europe this winter is actually classic symptoms of radiation sickness.

    How the feck Fukushima has been allowed to go on unabbated without an international effort to contain it is beyond belief.

    It just gets dumber and dumber and dumber.

    At least half of the human race will be wiped out by this in the coming decades.

    It makes the present UK election look like the crap shoot it is.

  • Macky

    Clark; “Mary and others would do better to distance themselves from Macky and John Goss.”

    The bullying & intimidating control freak just can’t help himself.

  • Clark

    Resident Dissident, I think you should be wary of supporting “the West” over the Kremlin. Wealth and power have broadened their domains of influence to international scales. I find it entirely plausible that wealthy elites on both “sides” have struck a deal whereby right-wing elements in countries bordering Russia receive funding and support from “Western” agencies, in order to hand an excuse to Putin’s faction of government to “protect” Russian speaking populations in those countries. Remember that warfare always benefits all arms manufacturers; certain wealthy parties benefit from unstable borders, while civilians suffer and die.

  • John Goss

    “And so it goes… the Pacific Ocean dies, and most don’t give a toss.

    Japan is toast, so is most of North America.”

    I am very concerned that in the next twenty to thirty years the planet might be dead. This has been getting tremendous coverage today on Facebook.

    http://conversationswithgreatminds.com/video/conversations-great-minds-guy-mcpherson-human-extinction-our-lifetime-p1

    There is very little I can do about it. However, right now, the USA and the coup-government it set-up in Ukraine is hell-bent on perpetuating a civil-war in which Kiev’s leader, Petro Poroshenko, signed a peace. As I wrote in an article last month the intent could well be to target the financial centre of London and NATO headquarters in Brussels.

    I think the Russians have a means of bringing down HQ electronic systems. But I do not rule out nuclear weapons.

  • John Goss

    “Or perhaps Mr Goss is referring to his cheap subsidised bicycle tools?”

    Dear Holier than Thou, when you dictate you should check it afterwards. I think you mean ‘tours’ perhaps?

  • RobG

    Thank you, John.

    They call us ‘conspiracy theorists’.

    I only wish we were!

    This is real, people. Wake the feck up!

  • Clark

    RobG, 11:20 pm; I think all of those assertions are grossly exaggerated, and this:

    “The ‘flu’ that’s been going round in Europe this winter is actually classic symptoms of radiation sickness.”

    is outright false; it would have happened in 2011 if it were to happen at all, not the winter of 2014-2015.

    RobG, do you have an ulterior motive in posting these radiation scare-stories?

  • John Goss

    “is outright false; it would have happened in 2011 if it were to happen at all, not the winter of 2014-2015.”

    Clark, I’m not sure this is right. We do not know what we are doing to the planet or how nuclear poison is distributed. For example can it like the hay-fever sit on exhaust fumes and be carried by them. It could be my age but I never suffered from hay-fever for the first forty years. We know something about how hay-fever occurs. We have only 70 years experiece about nuclear pollution. Though I realise that ‘flu is a virus.

  • RobG

    @Clark
    13 Apr, 2015 – 11:52 pm

    Clark, the number of people now dying in Japan and North America is quite breathtaking, and it’s all covered up.

    I won’t go further than that, except to say that all those involved will be put on trial for crimes against humanity.

  • Mark Golding

    UKraine – The Genesis:

    In 1950 MI6 began training Ukrainian Nationalist agents on the expectation that they could provide intelligence from western Ukraine.

    MI6 thought Jew murderer and Nationalist, Stepan Bandera could run his agents without British support, and MI6 were “seeking progressively to assume control of Bandera’s lines,” a fact recorded by the American State Department.

    British intelligence sought to convince the CIA of Bandera’s importance. “Bandera’s name,” they said, “still carried considerable weight in the Ukraine and … the Ukrainian nationalist paramilitary would look to him first and foremost.”

    Moreover, MI6 argued, Bandera’s group was “the strongest Ukrainian organization abroad, is deemed competent to train party cadres, and build a morally and politically healthy organization”, this according to CIA/MI6 communications.

    British officials considered “the possibility and desirability of engaging in clandestine operations in the Soviet Union other than those of a purely intelligence gathering character.” They needed Ukrainian recruits for infiltration and MI6 handlers wanted professional underground workers with terrorist backgrounds and ruthless notions about the rules of the game…. Please commit this fact to memory when considering dark aspects of the ‘War on Terror’. Thank-you

    MI6 maintained short-wave wireless links in Ukraine, simply because while to the outside world that had dropped Nationalist agents they knew former Bandero agents were under Soviet control and Stepan’s knowledge of SIS intelligence gathering and manoeveres had to be protected.

    Although Bandera remained in Munich and convinced the BND he still had useful agents in Ukraine, He was ‘debriefed’ and murdered by KGB assassin Bogdan Stashinskiy.

    The truth here is supported by Hitler’s Shadow: Nazi War Criminals, U. S. Intelligence, and the Cold War”, by Richard Breitman and Norman J. W. Goda – with thanks and appreciation

  • RobG

    John, I’ve been on this planet for a mere 51 years now.

    In that short time I’ve seen it all.

    From that position I would say that the present wave of illness – which is world-wide – stems from Fukushima.

    The amazing thing is that Fukushima doesn’t even come into the Election debate.

    The poor dears are all obviously on another planet.

  • Clark

    John Goss, radioactive isotopes decay – indeed, it is their decay that releases radiation. Therefore, the highest radiation occurs when they are first formed in a nuclear reaction, and the radiation decreases from that point on.

    The faster an isotope decays the shorter its half-life and the higher its radioactivity. Think of it like a machine gun firing bullets – the bullets are the radiation. Iodine 131 would be a a gun that fired half its remaining bullets every eight days. Strontium 90 would fire half its remaining bullets every twenty-nine years. It only takes one badly placed hit to give you cancer, but you’d be far more likely to be hit in the hail of bullets from iodine 131 than from the much slower release from strontium 90.

    The Fukushima disaster released lots of radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere and the Pacific ocean. The I-131 (and probably other factors from the tsunami) seems to have caused a massive die-off in the Pacific ocean. But the I-131 has all gone now; it’s decayed away. The much lower radiation from Sr-90 has barely diminished – it will have halved by 2040.

    The three ongoing meltdowns continue to produce radioactive isotopes, but at a fraction of the rate as when the reactors were functional, and they are not being distributed into the environment nearly as fast as shortly after the disaster. The worst is over – now we wait for the cancers.

    It’s bad. It’s dreadful. But it’s not a human extinction issue as RobG repeatedly tells us. Within twenty years time we can expect half of the entire population to get cancer at some point in their lives. Cancer may become the leading cause of death. Life expectancy will be decreased from what it would have been, but overall I expect the human population will continue to rise, with all the problems that entails.

  • Clark

    RobG, what do you propose be done about the meltdowns, anyway? This is the essential problem; there never was any plan for dealing with meltdown. They could conceivably disperse the pools of corium with explosives, I suppose, but surely that would distribute more nuclear pollution. They could try to tunnel underneath, but then do what?

    Probably the best mitigation would be to cap over the meltdowns and divert ground water away from the area – and just let the cores burn their way down as far as they go. Any suggestions?

    Damn things should never have been built in the first place – the original designer said as much, but the politicians ignored him and sacked him.

  • Evgueni

    Some research in the spirit of enquiry, regarding John Goss’s revelation about Boris Nemtsov’s retweet of the immoral statement by Vladislav @unkn0wnerror. Google search for Немцов ретвитнул моралфаги радоваться produces 7 hits in total, of which 6 are relevant.

    Searching for the phrase as quoted verbatim by JG (after correcting his skillful typos / omissions), reveals his original source – do try this yourself:

    GS’s original: “На память, когда зту суку убьуют, моралфаги не мешали радоваться.”
    Minus the typos: “На память, когда эту суку убьют, моралфаги не мешали радоваться.”
    Original tweet: “На память, чтобы когда эту суку убьют, моралфаги не мешали радоваться” (this one makes sense in Russian)

    So, searching now for the full tweet and adding Немцов to the search term (Nemtsov), we get one hit but it is not relevant.
    Searching instead for JG’s mangled version (accepting Google’s spelling corrections) and adding Немцов to the search term turns up this solitary gem:

    http://lifenews.ru/news/152299

    The retweet story is in a single comment by a Nadazhda Danilina (a curious transcription of Nadezhda). The Russian for re-tweeted is misspelt (ретвинул instead of ретвитнул). Interesting, let’s follow up with another Google search:

    Немцов ретвитнул моралфаги радоваться – produces 6 relevant hits, whether spelt correctly or misspelt. All of these lead either directly to politonline.ru, or idirectly via pravda.ru

    The source appears to be here https://twitter.com/kremlebotov

    No hint so far of where the original ‘copy’ of the re-tweet image came from – strange?

    Perhaps the answers are here – http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/04/02/analyzing-kremlin-twitter-bots/

    Btw, моралфаг is from English apparently:

    Noun
    moralfag (pl. moralfags)

    offensive internet slang – A person with strong moral views on something, that are considered stupid or nonsensical by the speaker

    I could name several on here 🙂

  • giyane

    Mark Golding:

    “In 1950 MI6 began training Ukrainian Nationalist agents on the expectation that they could provide intelligence from western Ukraine.”

    While we’re on the topic of substitution, you could substitute Ukraine with Iraq, and then you would see the actual roots of ISIS, let alone the Japanese Knotweed it is now.

  • giyane

    RoS

    You’ll make the attention-seeking Herbacious Bordering On Daft jealous , talking about drolls.

  • giyane

    Clark : ” there never was any plan for dealing with meltdown. ”

    I bet there was a plan, but it was binned by corporate management.

    It’s Election time and fracking in the Weald is in the headlines. Alas! Poor Toryck Stephen Dorrell: “No-one could ever have foreseen ” {that feeding sheep-brains to cows might have cost the country billions of pounds in the BSE scandal}.

    “Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him well.” Yes and we know the Tories too, and their completely bonkers money-grabbing logick.
    Not to mention New Labour/ George Bush’s folly of Iraq.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Macky

    “If only I had a pound every time Clark has stated I’m a shill for the Kremlin !”
    ______________________

    Only a pound? You’re so cheap. But we already knew that, didn’t we. 🙂

  • John Goss

    Clark at 12.44 thanks for that explanation. To my mind though the planet is already doomed. It is just a matter of to what degree and how quickly it will deteriorate. Radiation is only one part of the pollution. I hope and pray, not so much for future generations of mankind, because we caused it, but for the planet as a living macrocosm, that some life forms survive, but as the disturbing video I linked last shows, there are several global warming factors that indicate we are beyond salvation.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Res Diss

    “Clearly my policy of giving Mr Goss enough rope to hang himself appears to be working.

    “I do not even think Denmark will join NATO.”

    It is already a member you idiot. And you really think when you make such elementary mistakes that tour views on NATO should carry any weight whatsoever.”
    ___________________

    It must have been another of Mr Goss’s now famous “moments”! 🙂

    It was about time, you know…..

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Clark

    “RobG, do you have an ulterior motive in posting these radiation scare-stories?”
    _________________

    No, as I’ve remarked several times, he’s just on here for the laughs.

    “Bored in Burgundy” should be his handle.

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