Forget Faslane 185

With this country’s massive needs in housing and renewable energy, it is typical that the only public spending announcement the Tories wish to make is on more potential for death and destruction at Faslane. The politics of the ludicrous claims on employment creation are risibly transparent. Don’t vote SNP! Don’t Vote Corbyn! This is not an industrial or a services economy, its the WMD economy.

I was frustrated during the referendum campaign by the mealy-mouthed response to the unionists constant carping on about job losses at Faslane. Chucking out Trident will cause job losses. Good. Doing evil should not be sustained as a job creation scheme.

It is like arguing to keep the Spanish Inquisition going because of the workers it employs. Woodcutters gather the material for the burning alive of heretics. Skilled workers lay the faggots and construct the bonfires. Blacksmiths forge fetters and implements of torture. Then the torturers themselves have good steady jobs, and what of the clerks who write down the confessions? Ending the Spanish Inquisition would cause economic disruption.

I think that pushes the parallel far enough, but it is a sad comment on our moral relativism that anyone is allowed to talk of employment at Faslane as a bonus without being roundly ridiculed and socially shamed. As usual Osborne’s numbers are a trick of mostly totaling existing plans over a lengthy period. But even if this was genuine investment, he should be told where to stuff it. Scotland must not be a WMD based economy.

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185 thoughts on “Forget Faslane

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  • John Goss

    Here is the Kiev Comics reproduction of Poroshenko’s speech yesterday after Merkel and Hollande pulled him over the coals. His Blame Russia (who actually brokered Minsk and Minsk 2 protocols) meme could almost have come from the verbal arsenal of Resident Dissident.

    “My fellow countrymen, I assure you this will depend on the developments in eastern Ukraine and whether Russia adheres to the Minsk agreements in the next months.”

  • Mary

    I said on the previous thread that the HoC resumed on Friday 7th September.

    As if they would come back for one day.

    It should have been MONDAY 7th September. Not until after a leisurely start at 2.30pm. We never see them praying do we?

    Business Today: Chamber for Monday 7 September 2015
    2.30pm Prayers

    Followed by

    Urgent Questions (if any)
    Ministerial Statements (if any)



    Up to 45 minutes (Standing Order No. 83A(9))

    Secretary Philip Hammond

    That the Order of 9 June 2015 (European Union Referendum Bill (Programme)) be varied as follows:

    (1) Paragraphs (5) and (6) of the Order shall be omitted.

    (2) Proceedings on Consideration shall be taken in the order shown in the first column of the following Table.

    (3) The proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the times specified in the second column of the Table.


    Time for conclusion of proceedings

    New Clauses, new Schedules and amendments relating to the application to the referendum of section 125 of the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 or to the subject matter of that section

    Two and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on Consideration

    New Clauses and new Schedules relating to the subject matter of clause 2; amendments to clause 2; remaining proceedings on Consideration

    Five hours after the commencement of proceedings on Consideration

    (4) Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion six hours after the commencement of proceedings on Consideration.


    Up to six hours (if the European Union Referendum Bill Programme (No. 2) Motion is agreed to)


    Proceedings will be taken in accordance with the European Union Referendum Bill Programme (No. 2) Motion if it is agreed to by the House.

    For amendments, see separate paper (also available on the documents webpage of the Bill).


    Until 10.30pm or for half an hour (whichever is later) (Standing Order No. 9(7))

    Summer-born children and Department for Education guidelines: Stephen Hammond

    Oh well.

    Cameron looks different. Grey now. Hair dye out of the window. (video)

  • Alcyone

    ‘KR’ John. are you, by any chance, referring to the time you referred to J Krishnamurti’s work as ‘psychobabble drivel’?

    If I were to consider using your psychotherapy counselling services and, came across the above being your considered view, I wouldn’t think any further for a nanosecond.

    But then again you’re safe because (unfortunately) many of your patients have dementia so they don’t know any better.

    It’s all very well trying hard (on the internet), as you do, to come across as being very bright and especially empathetic. But then when you show the sort of closed-mindedness as you do, I call you ‘hollow’ and ‘shallow’.

    Good wishes towards your enlightening and yes as K said ‘Truth is a Pathless Land’ but I’m not sure, in this context, that all roads lead to Rome. Perhaps they do, but then in Pan’s language, you might be carring ‘moisture behind your ear’ (wonder where that comes from?) for a very long time.

  • Macky

    @Alcyone, are you, by any chance, related to a certain person who’s always wondering away from his village ?! 😀

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