Stunning Admission from Obama on Wikileaks 203

In his final press conference, beginning around 8 minutes 30 seconds in, Obama admits that they have no evidence of how WikiLeaks got the DNC material. This undermines the stream of completely evidence-free nonsense that has been emerging from the US intelligence services this last two months, in which a series of suppositions have been strung together to make unfounded assertions that have been repeated again and again in the mainstream media.

Most crucially of all Obama refers to “The DNC emails that were leaked”. Note “leaked” and not “hacked”. I have been repeating that this was a leak, not a hack, until I am blue in the face. William Binney, former Technical Director of the NSA, has asserted that were it a hack the NSA would be able to give the precise details down to the second it occurred, and it is plain from the reports released they have no such information. Yet the media has persisted with this nonsense “Russian hacking” story.

Obama’s reference to the “the DNC emails that were leaked” appears very natural, fluent and unforced. It is good to have the truth finally told.

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  • fred

    I don’t think most people see “leaked” and “hacked” as being mutually exclusive. I think the sentence “he hacked some emails then leaked them to the press” would make perfect sense to the vast majority.

    I wouldn’t read too much into it.

    • craig Post author

      Hmm, that sentence would strike me as wrong. A leak is done by an insider. And I don’t think Obama is sloppy in his use of language.

      • fred

        To me saying someone leaked information from a computer or hacked them to the press would sound wrong.

      • Ryan Crystal

        Save your breath he is obviously uninformed and compliant, you know Bill talked about in leeked emails from Bill Clinton. You can speak til your blue in the face and put the evidence right in there face and these liberals still believe these lying politians, never seen anything like it.

        • fred

          I’m just saying that I don’t think this counts as a “stunning admission”.

          I will continue to keep an open mind on the matter.

          • Juliana Farha

            If you consider that this is the primary basis for ramping up a ‘new Cold War’ it is pretty stunning. Throw in that it’s only Trump who’s accused of operating in a fact-free world, not to mention the assurances from everyone in the intelligence community that there is evidence even though they can’t produce any and it all feels pretty dodgy to me. Nor do I believe that anyone who’s been in close proximity to the intelligence world for 8 years would ever use the words ‘leaked’ and ‘hacked’ interchangeably. Leaks happen from the inside; hacks from the outside. I can’t stand Putin or Trump but I’m unable to suspend my critical and analytical faculties because I want something to be true, or watched too many James Bond movies growing up.

      • Ryan Crystal

        Not to mention there has been a lot of talk about insiders in the c.i.a. and NSA who leeked it all cause they were disgusted with the way this admin has treated this country

        • Lee King

          I think anyone can do well with a good leeking every once in a while, especially the US government, to keep them on their toes. Plus the smell afterwards is a dead giveaway and will make sure people near by will know that a leeking has taken place.

        • Ba'al Zevul

          There was the ‘hack’ (which wasn’t a hack but a spearfishing exploit), and there was the leak, to Wikileaks, of the results. It is as probable, if not more so, that an outside agency did the phishing. The NSA probably had the necessary password already -as any CT will tell you – and had no need to further risk detection by sourcing a fake Microsoft email. Nor, as events turn out, did it have any reason to think Trump would be more amenable to the NSA than Hillary. But –

          Whether you believe the unredeemably evil Yanks or the wholly wonderful Russians did it, is, on the basis of all available evidence, entirely up to you.

          I think history will generally regard Obama as a potentially good President effectively neutralised by vested interests, btw. He was completely hamstrung by the legislature, and failed to live up to his early promise for that reason. At least he tried to provide healthcare for the poor, in the face of monumental opposition. The fact that he didn’t succeed in closing Guantanamo – while reducing the number of inmates – again reflects the power of the vested interests involved.

          We await Trump’s attempts to achieve relative social equality, provide affordable healthcare (LOL – he’s scrapping Obamacare) and end indefinite detention without trial at Guantanamo (LOL – he’s going to expand it), as well as his staunch support of Ukraine’s independence, defence of Europe’s western borders, and accomplishment of a just settlement in Israel/Palestine. (LOL again. His appointee as ambassador to Israel is a hardline Zionist whose views mesh nicely with those of Avigdor Liebermann.) But right now it’s hard for me to see why anyone other than a Kentucky coalminer (similar views on climate change, LOL) would want him in.

          • bevin

            This might assist in explaining the enthusiasm of some of the non-miners among us (not that miners are not famous for their political shrewdness mind you)

            “Here’s an excerpt from the speech Trump delivered in Cincinnati on December 1 that is the source of the controversy:

            “We will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past…We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments…. Our goal is stability not chaos, because we want to rebuild our country [the United States]… We will partner with any nation that is willing to join us in the effort to defeat ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism …In our dealings with other countries, we will seek shared interests wherever possible and pursue a new era of peace, understanding, and good will.”

          • Edward Rhymes

            “I think history will generally regard Obama as a potentially good President effectively neutralised by vested interests, btw.” Really? I don’t believe you live in the states, so I would like to add a little perspective. The list below are policies that were Obama’s – he is responsible for them.

            I didn’t hear a peep from the vast majority of the left when journalists & national security whistleblowers were being attacked by the current administration in a way that was, unprecedented in US history; I didn’t hear a whole lot when this administration deported more immigrants than any president in US history; I didn’t hear much when 26,171 bombs in 7 countries were dropped in 2016 alone; I didn’t hear much when this administration went about the business or corporatizing & privatizing public education nor did I hear much when an astronomical amount of schools were closed in, predominantly, Black & Brown neighborhoods. This president presided over all that. I heard more about how cool the president was; or how cute the First family is or how wonderful the First Lady & the President’s marriage was than I did any of the things named. Now the incoming president, may obliterate ALL those records in his first year, but it still doesn’t erase what happened the last 8.

      • tomo

        Obamah seems almost anal in his lexical polishing of public utterances. I find it telling that the operator of the Democrat’s email system – one Google Inc, of Mountain View, California is managing to evade being named pubicly *and* is keeping decidedly schtum about the matter.

        • Ba'al Zevul

          Yup. Drivelling incoherently about your grandiose plans and contradicting yourself on a daily basis is so the way to go, no? Go, Trump!

          And if you think Obama is any worse than most other high-level politicians, you haven’t been listening, have you?

          • Loony

            Have you ever entertained the thought that you might be too down on Trump and that your opinion of Trump (which is certainly orthodox) may be no more than the opinion that Trump is encouraging you to form.

            He has not yet been inaugurated and yet he has already checkmated the Germans – and all this without Germany ever understanding that the game had even started. Think about what he achieved and how easily he achieved it and you may realize that you are witnessing a master strategist at work.

            You are not alone as the eminent historian Professor Stephen Cohen has only this week opined on the need for Trump to neutralize Germany seemingly without realizing that Trump has already accomplished this task.

          • Babushka

            “Think about what he achieved and how easily he achieved it and you may realize that you are witnessing a master strategist at work”.

            @Loony, please be so kind as to elaborate for those who, like me, are reading but not always understanding the deeper, subtler intricacies of what you see and know.

          • Ba'al Zevul

            Loony, I certainly entertained the thought, but it pleaded a prior commitment (something about Obama ) and left before the soup course.

            Time alone will tell if I am right about Trump. I’m happy to wait for the actions rather than the inchoate stream of verbiage. But the fact remains that several of his stated objectives are in complete opposition to what (eg) CM and his sympathisers have advocated for years.

            Re. the assault on Obama: this has been unrelenting since he took office, and inherited the festering mess Bush had left behind. If anyone thinks that Trump will be more moderate, they have another think coming – at least if anything the man says has any vague similarity to fact, they do.

            I’m a hater of globalism, btw, and, yes, Trump has used his own (alleged) position on this as a marketing feature. But he’s still gungho for capitalism, immune to any suspicion that endless growth and consumption are heading us for a human catastrophe, and 100% susceptible to anything a crafty hedge fund can sell him. Imposing import tariffs to protect US jobs isn’t going to isolate him from global financiers and traders. Again, he will prioritise US interests – as he sees them – which in his terms means that US cats will get fatter than anyone else’s.

            I can understand why the Moscow choir here is singing anthems to Trump. He is a monumentally divisive figure, and Russia can munch popcorn as it watches civil destabilisation progressing. But I still can’t see why the genuine liberals commenting here give him their approval. He loathes them and despises their philosophy, and they should respond in kind

      • Patricia Shepard

        thank you. he knows it wasn’t the Russians it was an insider like the NSA or Seth Rich….

      • Luke

        But that technicality means that if someone says leaks, it’s not possible that they are referring to material leaked after it was hacked? Maybe he said leaks because it was in the same sentence as “Wikileaks” and people often make mistakes while talking. “Stunning admission” is such an intentional overstatement.

      • Courtenay Barnett


        Consider this:-

        Situation one = hack

        You ( assume that you have a wife – or – girlfriend – and a secretary). You are on your computer and someone hacks into it and then distributes your private emails through social media and your wife or girlfriend discovers secrets about your correspondences to your other lady. That was a hack.

        Situation two = .leak

        The secretary has a secret dislike for you. She gains access to your computer and utilises those emails to the other woman that you sent and then leaks same to your considerable embarrassment. That is a leak.

        Substitute the DNC insider leaks versus any Russian hack and all and sundry should be clear on the distinction – thanks to your love life and indiscretions. Thanks. ( laugh) – Courtenay

        P.S. The NSA can see this ( my) email and trace it to my lap top in the country from where it originated. Ergo – they would have been able to do the same if the Russians had hacked.

  • Alejandra H. Covarrubias

    OBAMA is a cynic that has provoked Russia to the point of exhaustion. He’s a lying psycho and I’m not going to waste my time allowing him more misdeeds … I’ll do my best to bring him to jail for his war crimes.

  • michael norton

    Well, leaked, seems clear to me, from an insider.

    There for, not from Russia, unless the Russians have a sleeper in the DNC?

  • Cara

    Too little too late Obama. You have no legacy except death and destruction and ruining lives.

  • Ryan Crystal

    Thank you, it seems there are still journalist’s out there with some morals. Although they are few and far between. Thanks for doing real work and not writing fake news. I have known from the beginning that the Russia thing was all propaganda.

  • Alejandra H. Covarrubias

    3600 tanks sent to the border with Russia, thousands of soldiers, alert throughout NATO, and now censure RT in different countries, and FBI prosecutions against Russian citizens, in addition to everything that will happen from the 20th of This month are all exclusive responsibilities of this man. OBAMA is a Manchurian candidate and his agenda is the legalization of ECHELON with mandatory microchips.
    Legalized all the none conventional weapons from Pentagons International nazi projects, Please do google MK ULTRA.
    OBAMA has going MK DELTA in Guantanamo…

    OBAMAs history inside CIA is long, as much as Yackarta, with a million communists kild…
    The Story of Obama: All in The Company (Part I)
    by Wayne Madsen
    Wayne Madsen
    Investigative journalist, author and syndicated columnist. His columns have appeared in a wide number of newspapers and journals. Madsen is a regular contributor on Russia Today. He has written The Handbook of Personal Data Protection (London: Macmillan, 1992); Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa 1993-1999 (Edwin Mellen Press, 1999); Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops & Brass Plates and Overthrow a Fascist Regime on $15 a Day and co-authored America’s Nightmare: The Presidency of George Bush II (Dandelion, 2003).

    Alejandra H. Covarrubias
    investigative journalist

  • giyane

    Obama’s middle-finger to truth gets a raised fore-finger from the umpire OUT,
    Obama is admitting he is a liar, which will remain his presidential legacy from Day 1.

  • Krief

    Think I probably side with Fred on this.
    “DNC emails that were leaked” is not the same as “mails that were leaked from the DNC”.

    Arguably WikiLeaks “leaked” the mails, irrespective of whether they got them from a leaking or hacking source (it’s in the name, after all).

    • Shatnersrug

      Well that’s because you and Fred must have English as a second language. The difference between hack and leak is completely obvious.

    • Nick

      Ahem…if it was a hack you better damn well believe obama would have said hack. He is a man who chooses his words carefully. He would not have said leak because of the connotations of using it. Craig understands the nuance.

  • Veinous

    He had mentioned ‘wikileaks’ 3 times in the previous sentence, this is simple mistake. And besides, they WERE leaked, by wikileaks! You’re really stretching here lol

    • Stu

      They were published by Wikileaks.

      Given the fact that there is zero evidence of hacking occuring in the hacking report and now Obama has said that the security services are inconclusive as to how Wikileaks came into possession of the documents making any sort of impartial judgement to what happened is impossible.

  • Mari

    Somehow, that leaves me fuming mad; not relieved. I read of Binney’s very easy-to-understand explanation weeks ago. Most logical people ‘get it’. We ‘got it’ a while ago. This selfish jack ass called our soon, former Commander-in- Chief has never been in command of himself or anything else, for that matter. Bye bye birdie!

  • Madeleine Love

    Feel like I’ve just played Cluedo and come across another piece of information.
    As I have.

  • Aurora

    Agreed that the reference to leaked is natural. It’s not conclusive in itself, though, maybe just a repetition of the idea of ‘Wikileaks’ or the fact that the emails were leaked after being hacked as other commentators have noted. Hacking and leaking would be two different steps of the same process. What’s strange is Obama’s caution and slight awkwardness in responding to the question of Wikileaks and Assange, the big layer of doubt he throws over their connection to the DNC leak/hack, which suggests that maybe he or the intelligence services would not be so keen for the US courts to go after him after all.

  • Jarmo Saari

    Obama has still a few hours left in office – enough time to do the right thing: Humbly apologise and invite back those 35 Russian diplomats and their families he deported just before New Year’s eve.

  • Old Mark

    And I don’t think Obama is sloppy in his use of language.

    Precisely- as Assange also suggested in his Hannity interview, Obama has immersed himself in lawyerly language since his Harvard Law School days and his statements on this subject, including the latest reproduced above, and more guarded than those of unnamed ‘sources’ or ‘spokespersons’, or the likes of confirmed Russophobes such as McCain and Biden. Obama has never AFAIK directly accused Russia of instigating the ‘hack’ of the Podesta emails, and that should speak volumes.

    Trump has apparently relied on dirty Russian money to bankroll some of his more borderline property speculations, and I’ve no doubt there were celebrations in the Kremlin when he won in November, but the idea propagated in the Steele memorandum and elsewhere that the FSB have been nurturing Trump as their ‘Manchurian candidate’ for the Presidency since at least 2013 still sounds like reheated Cold War paranoia to me.

  • Clive Hulett

    On a more general note, it’s very discouraging to see the media, RW and LW seemingly tossing Julian Assange to the wolves. His usefulness has expired, he can be quietly disposed of.
    At the end of all this, he, his skill, his ideology is responsible for practically all of where we are at at this time. His abandonment – perhaps through public fatigue is more than sad.
    He must not be allowed to finish up like Aaron Swartz, or Michael Hastings, to name only two, two young brilliant men cut off in their prime by the inexorable force, of what?
    The darkside.

  • Josh Stern

    CIA has a long history of extreme control over most media outlets – control which starts at the level of ownership and exec editors, and often includes reporters influenced/bribed in many ways. Udo Ulfkotte spoke out about CIA bribery and censorship at Frankfurt Allgemeine when he worked there as a journalist. The absurd, one-sided, distorted media coverage of JFK assassination, Vietnam War, 9/11, and the “War on Terror” are a few other examples.

    Only relatively small, independent outlets have been pressing the point about the deafening drumbeat of claims backed by an absurd flogging of inconsequential evidence. I have a list of some independent voices here:

    One can find most of these on for RSS subscription.

  • Johnstone

    No point analysing the narrative…His very last ‘job’ – to undermine Trump before tomorrows’ inauguration and the only purpose of his final press conference .. to appear not to be a conniving traitor.

  • Patricia Shepard

    Good if it wasn’t for Judith Miller lying for Dick Cheney the United States would of never invaded Iraq committing genocide and the slaughter of innocent civilians and journalists. Judith Miller, Dick Cheney, James Clapper are war criminals so be quiet. What Manning did was expose the genocide you all created.

  • bevin

    It is unlikely, after the discussion of recent months, that Obama is unaware of the implications of choosing ‘leak’ over ‘hack’, since this is the point that has been the nub of the whodunit issue, here and elsewhere.
    The idea that ‘Russia’ might have set out to enable the publlcation of compromising emails is tenable, but only just. What is really improbable is that they would go after the DNC and Podesta, fairly marginal figures dealing with matters a couple of degrees displaced from the big issues, such as Foreign Affairs. There are, after all, those 30,000 missing emails from Hillary’s private sever; then there are the Clinton Foundation records which are likely to yield much juicier material than the sordid story of assisting Bernie Sanders in putting an end to his speaking tour/’presidential bid’.
    The whole matter would have been dismissed long ago, and certainly after our mate Craig told the world of the crucial part that he played in it, were it not for the fact that the entire-international- Third Way strategy depends upon establishing the fact- in the face of much readily available evidence- that the Clinton/Blairite cunning of leading the poor to their own destruction Pied Piper style no longer works.
    There was a reason that 90,000 electors in Michigan-the premier lunchbucket, blue collar, union State- declined to cast their vote for the Presidency line on their ballots: they had concluded, after experience going back to 1992, that candidates called Clinton are bad for their interests. It is surprising that it took them so long, after all Hillary’s term as an active Board Member of Walmart, the USA’s premier anti-Union firm whose employees are regularly registered for Food Stamps, so low are their wages- was well known.
    Now however, so many people, some of them normally quite rational, have convinced themselves that Putin did it that it is going to be difficult for them to rip toe back towards rationality.
    It would be nice to think that Obama’s choice of words was designed as his final act of revenge against Hillary, who has been a thorn in his side since he began his run for the White House, and who topped off her efforts to discredit him by organising that round robin from State employees criticising his Syria policies and calling for, her signature, No Fly Zone instead.

  • Zane Stewart

    But what I still don’t understand is with all the access to many real media formats and the Internet, common sense and actual evidence that America is still blind. This scares me to the soul. And I think tomorrow will be a black flag. And a shit pie to the face of those who see the truth.

  • Andy W.

    Obama didn’t say he didn’t know who gave Wikileaks the e-mails, he said he didn’t know if Wikileaks wittingly acted as a conduit for the Russian government to publish them. The Government’s story is that an online persona known as “Guccifer 2.0” is a Russian Government operative, and that this or these individual(s) hacked the Podesta and the DNC and gave the e-mails to Wikileaks.

    There is somebody online who claims to be Guccifer 2.0, who apparently has hacked the Democratic party, and who claims to be the Wikileaks source.

    What Obama should do, and has not done, is identify Guccifer 2.0’s real name(s), provide evidence showing that they hacked the same documents that were published on Wikileaks, explain what their connection to the Russian Government is, and explain how the e-mails were transmitted to Wikileaks.

  • lysias

    And the war clouds continue to gather. RT: British tanks sent through Channel Tunnel to prepare for war:

    Tanks have been sent through the Channel Tunnel in a secret midnight training operation to prepare for war in Europe.
    Five vehicles in total were loaded onto trains, sent through, and then returned to the UK overnight on Wednesday.

    Five different types of vehicle were sent in order to ensure that a range of armor could be transported.

    A Warrior armored fighting vehicle, a recovery variant of the Warrior, a Challenger 2 main battle tank (MBT), a recovery Challenger, and a reconnaissance vehicle were loaded onto a train at the military’s railhead in Wiltshire for the test journey.

    This on top of the U.S. sending ground troops to Poland.

    Will the shooting start before Trump is inaugurated at noon tomorrow?

    • Sharp Ears

      That’s Mr Fracking Fallon playing some silly war game. Good job they didn’t get stuck or break down and bring Eurostar to a grinding halt. That would have been a good story for the ‘medja’.

    • Harry Vi6

      Don’t panic Mr Mainwaring. Don’t panic.

      This is standard British Army training that takes place all the time for all sorts of pontential scenarios. Five tanks are not going to make a spit worth of difference to any attempt, no matter how far fetched it is (and it is far fetched), by the Russians to cross the Weser. The British Army had weekend exercises on the North Yorkshire Moors preparing for an invasion from Iceland during what our wonderful imaginative media called the “Cod War” (oh how we laughed in our wet trenches that weekend) but the crafty buggers stayed at home while we caught man flu in the cold wet March wind. Seven months earlier it was a scenario of a Nuclear bomb dropping on Newcastle which is apparantly still where it’s always been, the neo liberals and neo conservatives of all the UK political parties seemingly having decided it’s more fun to pull the legs off one at a time rather than squash bits of the North all in one go.

      Consequently, on the basis of one swallow does not a summer make there is nothing to see here, yet.

    • Paul Barbara

      One nuclear depth-charge should ensure that only mini-submarines could use the Chunnel.

  • mauisurfer

    Daniel Ellsberg, Edward Snowden, and the Modern Whistle-Blower
    From their backgrounds to their motivations, the two men have some striking differences.
    By Malcolm Gladwell

    interesting piece, how different are/were Ellsberg and Snowden
    Snowden the outsider techie (no degrees), Ellsberg the powerful insider adviser/analyst (Marine Corps commander in Korea, Harvard PhD) who advised McNamara, also Kissinger before K came to power
    Ellsberg says that Kissinger listened carefully, but “I knew it was too soon for him to appreciate fully what I was saying. He didn’t have the clearances yet.”
    Discussion of “plants” and leaks, and review of David Pozen.
    In short, the relationship between the government and the press—between the source of leaks and the beneficiary of leaks—is symbiotic. Governments may make a fuss about how much leaks are harming them. But they need leaks as much as the press does. The legitimacy of government requires sunshine, and the practice of governance sometimes requires darkness—and, in the face of that contradiction, leaks are a kind of informal workaround.
    But, crucially, the workaround depends on a common understanding among the participants, a degree of discretion and judgment. You need to have laws against leaking—and occasionally enforce them—so that leakers think twice about what they’re leaking. You can’t over-enforce those laws, though, because then you’ve killed planting. The press, meanwhile, has to preserve the ambiguity of plants, in order to preserve its access to leaks. And the press, too, has to think twice about what it will do: if you discredit the institution of leaking, by airing disclosures too damaging to the national interest, you’ll make it much more difficult for the next leaker to come forward. Leaking is not a mechanical exchange of information. It is a ritual that obliges its participants to play by certain rules.

    Worthy of full read here

  • Chuck

    Craig, I believe what he said has been miscontrued by this article. He said, “The conclusions of the intelligence community, with respect to the Russion hacking, were not conclusive as to whether Wikileaks was witting or not in being the conduit … towards … we heard about the DNC emails that were leaked.” He’s not saying that the intelligence community was wrong. He’s saying we’re not sure whether Wikileaks was a conduit. He’s not denying the allegations made by the intelligence community. Althuogh he’s used the word leaked, he says it in the context of “we heard about the DNC emails that were leaked,” following the factual statement that the intelligence communitywas not sure whether Wikileaks was witting or not in being the conduit. It is a huge leap to construe that statement he’s made to the assertions you have written above.

    • bevin

      On the other hand as Ray McGovern etc have pointed out, if the emails were not leaked the NSA would know who hacked them. Clearly the NSA does not know, they don’t even pretend to be protecting a source, either human or technical.
      So the game goes on, becoming more and more complex as the trail, which probably leads to some young staffer since ritualistically murdered and eaten by John Podesta and his dinner guests, (a joke) or shot in the back of the head in the street, becomes harder and harder for the average punter to follow.
      It is a typical CIA misinformation operation, but like all CIA operations it suffers from the underlying ideological crudity: nobody outside of Langley really believes that the Russians are likely to be connected. Whereas in the CIA, an organisation founded on russophobia and anti-communism, only one of which is still useful for budgetary purposes, always implicates the Russians.

      • xAnonx


        “Whereas in the CIA, an organisation founded on russophobia and anti-communism, only one of which is still useful for budgetary purposes, always implicates the Russians.”

        I often wondering what kind of life and worldview these people have? They must be paranoid and hateful 24/7.

      • Nick

        Bang on. After all the letter agencies do have to justify not only their funding but existence…which is russophobia or more so anti communism. They are still run by mc carthyites….for them the cold war never ended.

  • Rose

    Why do we accept the fact that governments need to lie to us. All this BS that they have to keep secrets is just that. BS. It’s our life and we pay for these governments, and we are entitled to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    • xAnonx


      We have a media that should be investigating this constant political corrupation, instead MSM+western governments today work together. Thats why the change is so hard to achive these days, its up to people like us trying to make small changes everywhere I guess.

    • Loony

      Governments lie to the people because the people demand that they be fed lies, and hence government is simply responding to popular demand. People within governments quickly work out that the demand for lies is so great that they can set up as private operators in the lie telling business and tell lies purely designed to benefit themselves.

      Anyone that tells the truth is demonized and marginalized.

  • TheOtherJulian

    When do we get to read what you have on the Orange Kanye? His tax returns might make a good prelude.

    • bevin

      Through its agent Obama the US Deep State has denied the clemency petition of Leonard Peltier, framed for murder, imprisoned for forty years, dying in prison.
      Peltier’s name will live forever. May God have mercy on Barack Obama’s soul.

    • michael norton

      The autopsy performed on Monday in Grenoble on the body of Geoffrey Bellir made its findings. The young soldier of the 93rd RAM of Varces died with a single blow of knife carried in full heart.

      The deadly brawl was held Saturday night near the station of Chambéry. The suspected murderer, a homeless person, is still being sought by the police. If the direct witness of the altercation, a friend of the victim, explained to have separated a first time the two men, the circumstances and especially the reason for the fight are still unknown. A priori, the two men did not know each other. It is possible that alcohol, present among the protagonists, has aggravated the situation.

      The announcement of the death of the young 24-year-old Chambérien created a deep emotion among his friends of the capoeira or dance of the MJC. The latter think to organize a march in remembrance of “Piment”, its nickname in the association.

      What complete rubbish.

      A mountain soldier, who has served in the desert, killing Jihadists, is brought back to Chambery to hunt for Jihadists, in his home city, the city that Francois Hollande was in on the same day that the most wanted Jihadist in Europe is waltzing through Chambery, has his ribs broken and is stabbed to death by a homeless man, and killed.
      They are unable to find the homeless man.
      Pathetic nonsense.

    • michael norton
      Opération Sentinelle
      Operation Sentinelle is an operation of the FRENCH Army deployed in the aftermath of the attacks of 7, 8 and 9 January 2015 , to face the TERROR threat and to protect the sensitive “points” of the territory. It was reinforced during the attacks of 13 November 2015 in Île-de-France .
      The reduction of the number of the operation to 7 000 men is canceled after the attack of 14 July 2016 in Nice . According to the Minister of Defense, Sentinelle’s mission is to “expand” by being “more deployed in the provinces ” and acting “both on the security of borders” , with the internal security forces, and ” On the flows ” , especially in ” tourist areas ” and ” at the time of major cultural or music events ”
      Operation Barkhane
      “We will fight you. We will defeat you. You will not have the last word,” President Ibrahim Boubacar Keita said in a televised address late on Wednesday.

      Mali will observe three days of national mourning.

      In a statement released by Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) translated by the SITE Intelligence Group, the militant group said the attack was carried out by its close ally al Mourabitoun.

      It gave the bomber’s name as Abdul Hadi al-Fulani. Malian state media had earlier said there were five bombers.

      “We do not permit the establishment of barracks and bases or the convening of patrols and convoys belonging to the French occupiers, to wage war against the mujahideen,” the statement read.

    • lysias

      If the deep state kills Trump, it will be committing suicide. If anybody else kills Trump, Trump’s followers will still believe it was the deep state, and it will still be the end of the deep state.

      So the deep state has an overwhelming interest in making sure Trump lives.

      • RobG

        Always keep on an eye on the presstitutes to get some idea of what’s playing out. The unprecedented attacks against a President-elect this last week or so, and the anti-Trump narrative being pumped out by the presstitutes, right up until Inauguration Day, suggests that something is going down.

        I’m no supporter of Donald Trump, but hopefully all that will happen tomorrow is the successful inauguration of the 45th President of the United States.

    • RobG

      Michael, I’m not too familiar with the incidents you’re talking about.

      Many people in France are now seeing through all the false flag bullshit.

  • SkippingDog

    We do know that the Russians hacked into the DNC and other political parties, groups, and operations to steal the information. We also know that the information made it’s way to Wikileaks for release. Not being able to identify the transfer between the two in no way changes those basic facts. Nothing a straw-man intermediary might have done changes the relationship.

    • bevin

      “We do know that the Russians hacked into the DNC and other political parties, groups, and operations to steal the information..”
      You know nothing of the sort.
      You are simply repeating lies.
      Are unaware that to do so is anti-social?

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