Theresa May’s Brittle Shield Wall 166


Pollster YouGove is into full on propaganda mode. They present results dished up with explanatory press releases for right wing journalists to push. This one was commissioned by Murdoch.

But if you burrow down into the actual data, which no journalist ever does, sometimes there are results which are quite interesting. It is important of course to note that the sample is a self-selecting one of the kind of people who volunteer for online polls, and is then adjusted to account for a number of things including a historic tendency to underrate the Tory vote, so the Tory numbers are consciously increased.

The first warning light flashes at me in the subsamples. The headline 48-24% Tory lead over Labour includes an extraordinary 29% Tory vote in Scotland. That is quite simply impossible. If it proves to be true, I will walk the length of Holyrood Road on my knees. It is bollocks.

That aside, the brittleness of the support the media have whipped up for hard Brexit is shown in a series of questions about the EU. Now it is true – and this was headlined by YouGove and the media – that by a narrow 46-43% the poll states that people believe Britain is right to leave the European Union. (32-60% in Scotland).

But dig into that and you find that support for May’s Brexit is quite extraordinarily brittle. This is the truly striking lesson from this poll, and nobody has picked up on it.

Look at the answers to these questions. In each case I have excluded the don’t knows and recalculated from the table:

Do you think Britain will be better off or worse off after we leave the EU?
Better off: 33%
Worse off: 44%
No Diff 23%

Do you think Britain will have more or less influence in the world after we leave the EU?
More influence: 23%
Less influence: 43%
No Diff: 34%

Do you think leaving the EU will have a good or bad effect on British jobs?

Good for jobs: 29%
Bad for jobs: 41%
No Difference: 30%

Do you think leaving the EU will have a good or bad effect on British pensions?

Good for pensions: 10%
Bad for pensions: 32%
No Difference: 58%

Do you think that leaving the EU will have a good or bad effect on the NHS?

Good for the NHS: 30%
Bad for the NHS: 34%
No Difference: 36%

Do you think there will be more or less immigration into the UK after we leave the EU?

More immigration: 3%
Less immigration: 56%
No Difference: 41%

So Theresa May wishes to hustle to a quick election victory on what she views as a national consensus building around hard Brexit. But that consensus is extremely brittle.

A majority of the population believe that Brexit is bad for the economy, bad for jobs, bad for the NHS, bad for pensions and bad for British influence in the world. The population are being stampeded into a direction that they plainly believe to be against their own self-interest. This makes May extraordinarily vulnerable to pushback on the EU. That should benefit the LibDems. It also shows that the SNP is wrong to backpedal on the EU to placate the Sillars vote. The pro-EU answers to each of those questions in Scotland alone are simply overwhelming.

Brexit’s only salience is on one single issue: immigration. But this poll does something still more interesting. It provides absolute proof of what I have been observing and commenting on for the past ten years, that the anti-immigration movement is founded on pure and simple racism.

Cutting immigration is the only alleged positive a majority see from Brexit. But they do not believe that this cutting of immigration will improve jobs, the economy, pensions, or the NHS. All the canting justifications for cutting immigration are cut through, because this poll reveals that people do not expect to see any of those effects. No, Brexiteers want to cut immigration simply because they are racists and do not like foreigners.

But given that May wants to fight this election solely on Brexit, and given that the only area of traction Brexit has is immigration, we can expect to see the nastiest anti-immigration campaign ever waged by a mainstream party. We can also expect to see repeatedly what Adam Boulton did to the Lib Dems Sarah Ludford on Sky News and hour ago. As soon as the EU was mentioned, Boulton aggressively intervened by invoking dog-whistle anti-immigration racism.

That is why Conservative policy today is near identical to the BNP manifesto of 2005, which promised:

– Severe cuts in immigration
– Leaving the EU
– Bringing back grammar schools
– Increased military spending
– More “security” and “strong leadership”
– Foreign policy driven by “British national interest” not human rights
– Reduce development aid

A Tory vote is a racist vote. Full stop.


166 thoughts on “Theresa May’s Brittle Shield Wall

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  • Soutron

    Scottish weighted sub-sample is only 159 people, so yes, it is likely to be way off.

  • reel guid

    I’m so pro-immigration. Would all progressive people in England please move here so we can completely swamp the Tory vote. And create a bastion in independent Scotland against Empty Chairman May and her Mayism

  • Demetrius

    So you are stating that those who think that the Euro is a very bad bet and going bust and that the financial liabilities of Italy, Spain etc. create serious risks to the European and World economy are necessarily racist?

  • DG

    “Cutting immigration is the only alleged positive a majority see from Brexit. But they do not believe that this cutting of immigration will improve jobs, the economy, pensions, or the NHS.”

    House prices and rents and hence disposable income? Possible the gains from cutting immigration may be offset by higher tariffs and inflation, hence the poll findings.

    • K Crosby

      Migration is a way to compensate for the drastic limitation of working-class fertility for the last 100 years. Migrant workers are the children we never had so we should welcome all foreigners and make sure they understand why the state and its corp-0-rat cronies want them even as they conduct state persecution and incite racism in the lower middle class.

  • Loony

    Here is a report from setting out the rise in Spanish child poverty between 2008 and 2014 which has increased by 9 percentage points to reach a level of almost 40%

    http://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/40-of-spanish-children-live-in-poverty/

    This rise in child poverty in Spain is explained almost exclusively by the policies of the ECB.

    Maybe a new anti racist slogan could be “Kill a Spanish child and prove your liberalism”

    Fucking racist my arse – the real racists are the people who could not give a flying fuck for the desperation and poverty caused by an out of control EU elite determined to do the bidding of their German masters to hoover up all the wealth of Europe and repatriate every last cent to Germany.

      • Loony

        If my unwillingness to stand on the heads of Spanish children in order to garner the approval of a liberal elite makes me a racist then I guess I can live with that.

        Maybe you could explain how destroying the livelihoods of others and persecuting the poor and oppressed all in the name of an ideology that you do not understand is something to be admired and respected.

    • Peter

      You can’t win against this hebephrenic lot Loony. Aunty May has called their bluff and now they are running scared.

      • D_Majestic

        She couldn’t call a cab, Peter. Overrated and planning to be over us, unfortunately.

  • reel guid

    So basically Scotland is being told we’ll have to leave the EU because middle England hates immigrants.

    Dugdale and Rennie – or Team Sockpuppet as I prefer to call them – will keep on telling us we have to stay in the UK as the only means to a fairer Britain and so on.

    • Loony

      Let us examine your latest outpouring of bigotry and ignorance. where middle England is claimed to “hate immigrants”

      Leicester is pretty much middle England from a geographical perspective. Who lives in Leicester?

      45% White British
      5% Other White
      30.4% Asian
      3% Black
      2.3% Mixed
      Balance – Other

      Strange how Leicester is not permanently ablaze if what you say is true, Stranger still how only 51.1% of the voting population of Leicester voted to remain in the EU, which means that 48.9% voted to leave. No matter how unrealistic the assumptions you make, it follows logically that a significant number of “non White British” people in Leicester must have voted to leave the EU.

      Do you think it possible that people considering voting for Scottish independence may not do so on the grounds that pro-independence supporters have a penchant for writing lies that are readily verifiable as such.

  • Andy Jones

    Remain platform may well benefit LibDems in the upcoming general, but if they’ll just go into coalition with the Tories like in 2010 on the premise probably of “ensuring the best brexit possible for the British people” then why vote LibDem in Marginal Tory seats?

  • Geoffrey

    There is another way of looking at the results of the poll. That the respondents wanted to leave the EU DESPITE thinking that in the short term it may have adverse consequences for the UK. and themselves.

    • craig Post author

      If the words “short term” or “immediate” or “temporary” appeared in the question you would be right. But it asks if it will be good or bad for the economy, jobs, pensions and the NHS, not temporarily.

  • reel guid

    The Tories caught out apparently padding out their audience at the hall in Egerton near Bolton. One of the crowd pictured behind May is a councillor from The Wirral 50 miles away.

  • DaveM

    I actually took part in that poll. The questions on the EU felt pretty loaded to me (I used to work for one of the other social research companies and I thought the survey overall was fairly badly designed). However, I’m not sure that answering that leaving the EU would result in less immigration is the same as saying that that is a ‘good thing’. I can see, though, why certain sections of the media would nevertheless spin that particular result to suit their agenda.

    • David

      I agree, see my comment 4 further down the list from yours. I think this question is void without a supplementary question on whether or not less immigration is good or bad for the UK. David

  • Ian Seed

    Do you think Britain will have more or less influence in the world after we leave the EU?
    More influence: 23%
    Less influence: 43%
    No Diff: 34%

    Do 43% believe we have less influence as a sovereign state and more influence as 1/28th of a political union?

    That’s quite insane. We never even had any sway inside the EU. To wit – in February 2016 Cameron marched up to the EU with a shopping list of ten reforms. They granted him ZERO. They laughed in his face effectively. Some literally laughed in his face. The Italians called it “fried air”.

    That is how the EU treated it biggest trading partner when they were threatening to leave.

    Anyone who thinks the UK had “influence” inside the EU is mentally deficient.

    • craig Post author

      It’s not insane at all. An isolated state of unpleasant xenophobes is not going to have influence.

      • K Crosby

        Who wants the influence that comes from being American Caesar’s chief jackal? Less influence in the Middle East means fewer terrorbombers butchering Iraqis and Syrians, fewer Saudi head-chopping pervert terrorbombers butchering Yemenis with British bombs and British ground staff and fewer Palestinians, Libyans and Bahrainis being tortured with implements made in Britain. Let’s have influence by putting turds like Bliar, Straw, Cameron and May in Spandau gaol until the days they die.

      • Euan Gray

        Why do you feel influence is so important? Were you a lonely child with no friends?

        Why should we or indeed any other country not try to fix our own problems first without pretending we have, or ought to have, any global influence?

        And as far as the influence of Britain or indeed most of Western Europe is concerned, these days the growing countries of China and India look to us for an example of how NOT to do it. Can’t you see this?

    • David

      I don’t know that they laughed, I expect it was more of a groan that the EU country of the righteous with the best financial terms of all the large member states was going to throw the toys out the pram if it couldn’t get further discounts.

  • Ian Seed

    “So Theresa May wishes to hustle to a quick election victory on what she views as a national consensus building around hard Brexit. But that consensus is extremely brittle.”

    Wrong.This is absolutely nothing to do with the reason they have called an election.

    Something the ENTIRE MEDIA has failed to grasp – or is simply refusing to print – is that we are about to enter into a recession the likes of which no-one has ever witnessed in living memory. This is FAKE NEWS by omission.

    Whoever is in charge in 2020 would lose. The Tories know this. The idea is to lock up 5 more years of power, get this recession over and hope for the best by 2022. I don’t think we’ll see the bottom of it for three years, so good luck with that.

    All this Brexit nonsense is so small minded and I can assure you that party politics will also be for the small minded when this economic hurricane comes to visit. There are no bailouts this time. It’s BAIL INS. Think about that for a second.

    It’s going to be rough.

  • David

    Craig, the immigration question as above –
    “Do you think there will be more or less immigration into the UK after we leave the EU?”

    My answer to this would be “less” on the basis that I believe our next right wing Tory government will do all it can to make sure this happens. My opinion as to whether or not less immigration is a good or a bad thing is not being sought by this question. I find it quite worrying that my answer to such a question might be used to derive support for such a policy.

    Am I missing something?

    • craig Post author

      David, no not really. It is simply that every other question has an answer that clearly demonstrates leaving the EU will make things worse. So for example only a tiny minority of people would want a weaker economy, lower jobs, lower pensions or a worse NHS. The only thing that it is viable to interpret as having such a strong influence in tipping the balance of public opinion against the EU is the very strong belief it will cut immigration.

      • David

        Thanks for responding.

        I think it is a badly constructed question inviting inappropriate interpretation and use of the response data. Having said that I do, however, believe that ill informed views on the immigration issue were the main tipping point into Brexit south of the border.

        In the first two weeks of June last year I had a holiday on a small Greek island mostly surrounded, in the tourist bubble, by retired English, wallet type thinkers, all confident of their Brexit choice. They were happy to be voting to make Blighty great again with more controls to strengthen our borders and keep Johnny Foreigner and the wogs out and they seemed to be pathologically unable to see that their vote was going to add a significant premium to the cost of their extended visits across that reinforced border into the Greek sunshine.

        I note that among my own friends and relatives in Edinburgh those who know less about the reality of the current state of politics in England are much more likely to support the union.

        Finally :-), I don’t do YouGov, I tried it once but I gave up fairly quickly because I was inundated with too many requests for my opinions on toothpaste, credit cards, TV soaps etc.

        • Alcyone

          David expound a little further on this ‘reality’ you refer to in England and also without comparing, separately about Scotland. I am a student of the subject of reality and want to learn.

      • K Crosby

        A “weaker” economy is easily compatible with a fairer distribution of wealth.

  • Sharp Ears

    Our pro tem Dear Leader is speaking in a Glaxo Smith Kline factory in Maidenhead. There was a little ripple of applause at the end.

    Probably feels safe there.

    She is taking questions from the staff. Wait to see if there are any journos!

    • Sharp Ears

      She did at the end. She selected Pienaar and Kunessberg and someone from the Express! who she addressed as ‘Kate’.

      Softballs

  • Sharp Ears

    A retired local authority housing officer was speaking to James O’Brien on LBC earlier.

    The scandal of the number of empty houses was discussed. Pre John Major’s Housing Act, later ratified by Brown, a housing officer would issue an compulsory purchase order on a property that was standing empty for a set period of time.

    Now that doesn’t happen nor can it happen as local authorities have no powers (or resources) unless the Secretary of State makes an order. He referred to the multiple occupation houses, most of them illegal, where the tenants were being ripped off to the tune of £1,500 per month for one grotty room.

    The private landlord has taken over housing for the needy in place of local authorities. He was very angry about the situation as we all should be. He hopes for change.

    Housing crisis: more than 200,000 homes in England lie empty
    Birmingham is the city outside London with the most unused properties, followed by Bradford and Liverpool, new figures show
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/20/over-200000-homes-in-england-still-lying-empty-despite-housing-shortages

    In Tory Britain in 2017, an empty property appreciates in value more than gold bullion.

    • Loony

      Of course there are a lot of empty houses, why would there not be?

      You are living in a fictitious economy where nothing is as it seems. The only way the fiction is kept going is via high and rising asset prices, House prices will rise if rents can be forced to rise. Rents will rise if you choke of supply by not building houses and sterilize parts of the existing housing stock by keeping them empty. So much the better if you can simultaneously increase demand via importing people.

      This is your economy. You have made it this way through a progressively increasing refusal to do any work. Of course people suffer, and as time goes on a lot more people will suffer, This is an inevitable consequence of denying reality. There is no way out and there is no escape.

      You have made your​ bed – but you cannot even lie on it because you have sold it.

      • D_Majestic

        Yes-successive governments have indeed done no work, Loony. They were too busy fiddling their expenses and bombing people. They were the ones who made our beds.

  • KingofWelshNoir

    The Establishment must be rattled, the propaganda on Newsnight last night was so thick you could have put it in a bucket and used it as wallpaper paste. First up, some imagery from a quarter of a century ago making Corbyn look like some militant activist nutter straight from central casting. Shortly followed by a syrup-dripping hagiography of Theresa May which also delved into the world of 25 years ago but treated us to the most egregiously manipulative sentimental schmalz about her first love at Oxford, replete with rose-tinted footage of her dancing gaily at a college ball, waiting for her prince to arrive in a gilded carriage. The bedtime story voiceover was also from 25 years ago: Jackanory. It was a disgrace. Fortunately I had the wallpaper paste bucket to throw up into.

    • reel guid

      KoWN

      Watched it on the iplayer after reading your post. Hagiography is the word you used and it’s the only one to describe it. A total contrast, as you say, to their depiction of Corbyn.

      May’s film was given a glorious soundtrack too. Bit of stately baroque followed by the Brideshead theme for the Oxford days. Then some Dancing Queen by ABBA and a dash of Van Halen before a recap of the baroque.

      Then it was back to the studio to be treated to the most syrupy smile from Emily Maitlis.

      The BBC is now just the broadcasting wing of the Tory party.

      • KingofWelshNoir

        Yes, I noticed the music too, the whole thing was like a pop video for Mother Theresa. The jaunty uplifting shots of flash cars and the ABBA music, contrasted with Jeremy Corbyn looking alone, clapped out, and miserable in a dingy church hall campaigning back in the mists of time…cut to C/U of some old codger lighting a roll-up fag while holding a copy of the Morning Star for all to read…you could almost feel the church hall damp rising in your bones…I was expecting Dad’s Army to walk in at any moment.

    • Chris Rogers

      KingofWelshNoir,

      Have you posted the bucket full of vomit to the propagandists at BBC Newsnight as an example of your appreciation for the stellar work they do on behalf of the Tories?

  • Gulliver

    All those People who voted for Brexit thinking that it would reduce dramatically Immigration are in for a very nasty shock when F.O.M. is simply re-branded as “Controlled Immigration” and any subsequent change in immigration numbers will simply be as a result of the UK’s inevitably weaker economy after leaving the Single Market.

    And all those people who voted Brexit to “take back control” will be disappointed when the Government tells them that, because Brexit is sooo much more complicated than they thought (or told you) it would be they need a “transitional deal” (or as May likes to call it an “implementation” period) of an undetermined duration so yes, we will still be under the jurisdiction of, and paying for, EU institutions like the ECJ for some time to come.

    Brexit mean Half in Europe, still run by Europe

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39498647?postid=126765854#comment_126765854

    And we are having a snap election for 2 reasons: –

    1) – The Tory party remains split on the EU and the possibility of a back bench rebellion on the “deal” would be high with a slender 16 seat majority (that may have been reduced had Tory electoral fraud led to by-elections). As the authoritarian that May is, she has no truck with dissent from any side, especially her own.

    2) – May has realised, finally, that all her talk of a deal with the EU in 2 years was wishful thinking, she now knows what is going to happen, she’s just grasped she would not get elected in 2020 once is has.

    • LeeJ

      I think you find it has more to do with the very possible charges relating to election fraud.Something the MSM has conveniently overlooked.

  • Republicofscotland

    Going by the poll, Theresa May might find that she’s not as popular as she thinks she is.

    Many of those people who voted to stay in the EU will vote against her. Whether or not a significant amount do is another matter, she could see her majority cut.

    The Theresa May could also find NHS staff and doctors voting against her, Jeremy Hunt hasn’t exactly endeared himself to them.

  • AAMVN

    The Tory vote has always had a nasty undercurrent of racism. If you get any dyed in the wool Tory voter off guard they will betray their racism in no time at all. That at any rate is my experience of the genus. Many Labour supporters are racist too, of course. Racism is a very natural weakness that takes some effort to overcome.

    My mother was exceedingly racist in her views except for every individual black person, brown person, Asian or member of any other maligned group she actually got to know. We could never get her to see her muddled thinking.

    I’m hoping May will come a cropper in this blatant attempt to pull a fast one on the electorate. She is pretty clueless.

  • Alan

    “The first warning light flashes at me in the subsamples. The headline 48-24% Tory lead over Labour includes an extraordinary 29% Tory vote in Scotland. That is quite simply impossible. If it proves to be true, I will walk the length of Holyrood Road on my knees. It is bollocks.”

    I’m not so sure. They reached the low twenties last year and full-sample polls do show Tories in the mid twenties in Scotland. Remember, not only have the Tories harvested the majority of the No vote, they are also going after the 38% Leave vote largely uncontested. In this context, I’m actually surprised it’s not higher. That is probably due to a combination of Labour hanging on and the SNP/pro-Indy voters who also voted Leave but have zero inclination to vote unionist.

    • reel guid

      We’re so grateful to Westminster for giving us a fraction of what they promised in the indyref1 campaign.

      • michael norton

        No, I did not think it would pleas the S. N. P.

        But u ought to spare, just a moment, for the workers, who will have employment, please do not despise them.

      • Loony

        What are you on about? Westminster has nothing to give you or anyone else. They have nothing. Only today it has been announced that so far this year Central Banks have bought up $1 trillion of financial assets.

        If there was anything to give anyone, do you really think they would be doing this?

        • michael norton

          Work has officially begun on HMS Spey at Govan shipyard on the Clyde.
          The work has filled a gap in the order books at the yards, where work on eight Type-26 frigates is due to begin this summer.

          It has sustained 800 jobs in the industry, according to the Ministry of Defence.

          So would ANYONE from
          the S. N. P. welcome this good news for Scottish workers?

          ANYONE

  • Chris Rogers

    As a bit of an exercise I’ve actually signed-up for YouGov and will see what happens – I’ve given my details as an over 90 year old widow who votes BNP and was a teacher without a University qualification. I’m confident my ‘new profile’ will result in political Polls being sent to me to fill in, evidently in the expectation that I’m a lunatic fascist supporting old biddy – will be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks?

    • BJ

      I’ll be interested in your experience Chris; people I know who’ve also signed up to YouGov in the past were quite encouraged initially, then it seemed that their political views (left of centre, I’d have thought), maybe didn’t match what was required and YouGov’s interest in them faded to nothing.
      I’ve seen posts on Face Book repeating similar experiences, where posters encouraged by the prospect of getting £50 for their opinions, signed up, were initially excited at the opportunity to air their views but quickly discovered there was no £50 and the requests soon dried up. Some of them thought it was their political views and some thought it was simply YouGov, gaming the offer of £50.
      Seeing the people named below, who are involved in YouGov, either, or both could easily be the case.

      YouGov CEO Stephen Shakespeare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Shakespeare
      and the co founder and previous CEO Nadhim Zahawi M.P.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadhim_Zahawi
      (Who after all can forget that we the taxpayer generously kept Zahawi’s horse snug).

      Personally, I think YouGov are no better than a crock of …….. and their polls have about the same value.

  • Matt

    “Brexit’s only salience is on one single issue: immigration. ”

    I take issue with this comment. I voted “out” for one reason… sovereignty. I find it incredible that Craig wants for Scotland “independance” from the UK, but membership of the EU.

    The image of Sir Fucking Bob flicking the V’s at fishermen who want their waters back was the most iconic image of the entire referendum and did more to get “out” votes than anything else I can remember.

    I am not racist. I am in favour of controlled immigration, I recognise that it is good for the economy and good for culture. I am sick of people like Craig constantly accusing people lime me of being racist. How is that any different from the lies that the BBC keep churning out?

    Craig, I respect you a great deal, but you’re wrong when you say racism was the only important issue at play. Yes, it’s an awkward truth that racists carried the “out” vote over the line, but I’m still glad we’re leaving, because self determination, sovereignty, you cannot put a price on that… as demonstrated by your desire to leave the UK (which I respect).

    Forget about the EU if you want to be independant. The two are mutually exclusive.

    • MJ

      One of the great failings of the remain campaign was that it didn’t address the issue of sovereignty head on. It had nothing to say on the matter and seemed to hope it would just go away. A bit like the SNP and the currency issue.

      • Alcyone

        Honouring the times, they are going to have Trump and Pence as their currency. Trump is delighted but Pence is not as it’ll take a 100 of ’em to make a Trump, but hey that’s closer to the relative net worth.

    • Bayard

      Hey, Matt, you voted to leave. So did I. That makes us racists. It’s a b*gg*r, I know, but we’ll just have to try to get over it.

  • Mark in Mayenne

    No, a majority don’t believe Brexit is bad for the economy, etc. There is no question in your summary where the “bad” result is more than 50 %. You need more than half for a majority.

    The fact that 56 % believe that Brexit will result in less immigration doesn’t tell us that they all think this would be a good thing.

    I could cut your results another way and note that a majority of people (57%) believe that Britain’s influence in the world would be unchanged or improved by Brexit. That is a majority see no harm being done to Britain’s influence.

    • RobG

      “Britain’s influence” usually involves butchering dusky skinned people in other parts of the world.

  • Alcyone

    Craig, you’re losing your touch for lateral thinking, instead resorting to the paralysis of analysis. All your numbers, well I can skin the cat almost anyway I want. Anyhow they are all about ‘feelings’, meaningless in a a confused world.

    Now this did not need a poll, it is a rather plain and simple fact:

    “Mohammed tops the list of most popular baby boy names in England and Wales as Oliver and Amelia stay favourites (and there are even a few Corbyns!)”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3770523/Oliver-Amelia-popular-baby-names.html#ixzz4etp7BfCw

    Religion, culture, race–they are all different things, Craig, look them up if you’re forgetting. Btw, how many women were in your audience at your recent ‘Gala’ dinner in Doha? Any lap-dancing downtown, no? But just every f*****g thing you want behind closed doors, right? As long as you have the moolah. But men only. Effing hypocrites and I’m not yet sure about you, but unlike you, I do have an open mind.

    • D_Majestic

      I would say ‘Feelings’ are very important to us. But not so important as ‘Instincts’. Which the vast majority of all religious and political organisational efforts suppress and even detest.

  • fwl

    There is one real issue which should be on the agenda in this election, but it is nowhere. Even if there were no bias and even if there were competent opposition parties it would still not be there. It is somehow too difficult and unpopular to contemplate.

    It is what is propping up the sick economy other than continued fake money / QE and central bank support for over valued assets.

    Take away fake money and you have a real problem of such seriousness that all the other issues (save for the risks of war) are hardly worth discussing.

    • Loony

      You have nailed it. This is the problem that will do for us all and this is the problem that must never ever be acknowledged – for to acknowledge this is to acknowledge our own complicity. We are not complicit, we are victims, someone has done this to us, we have not over consumed the fruits of the earth and even if have then others have consumed more

      I want independence, I want more public services, I want more “stuff” and I demand that that stuff be made by the Chinese for to make it myself would be racist. I want to wail over images of dying children and I will never ever acknowledge that my demand for more stuff has led to the pictures over which I wail. It is not my fault. It is all the fault of someone else – rich people, Conservative politicians, Communists, Russians, Immigrants, Fascists, anyone but not me. It is not my fault.

      If you dare to tell me the truth then I will hate you for ever. If my hatred does not frighten you then I will stick my fingers in my ears and scream and scream ans scream and I will keep doing this until you go away. Ah if only Scotland could become independent then all of our problems would vanish in the haze.

      $1 trillion of assets bout by Central Banks so far this year – but talk to the hand cos the face aint listening,

  • K Crosby

    Do any political parteis intend to repeal the racist British Nationality Act 1981? No? Then an SNP vote is a racist vote as well.

    • reel guid

      Since the SNP has never formed the Westminster government – for very obvious reasons – they can hardly be charged with failing to repeal it.

        • reel guid

          Brian

          I like the derogatory customer review that calls it a “douementary …by Georghe Galloway. Treating the adience like idiots”.

          I reckon we can expect that John McTernan’s not going to give it five out of five stars either.

          • Brianfujisan

            reel good

            Yes I was thinking there seems to be an unnatural Rush to negative reviews, maybe some are genuine. and some Blair’s Cronies.

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