In this hustings clip, independent candidate for Hastings and Rye Nicholas Wilson is linking the Manchester bombing to Tory support for arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Home Secretary Amber Rudd can be clearly seen writing a note, passing it to the chairman and speaking to him. He then immediately intervenes to stop Wilson speaking and takes the microphone from him.
I don’t have the name of the chairman who looks like a corrupt, overfed, complacent, Tory, Church of England vicar straight out of Trollope. But as soon as I get his name, I will publish it.
UPDATE
What is happening to the understanding of democracy in this country? I just got a call saying the Residents’ Committee of the apartment block where I live were instructing me to remove the SNP poster from my balcony (It is a small A3 poster). My reply was extremely rude, I am afraid, and I have now put up a second poster.
An outstanding analysis by John Pilger here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Sor7xeR-4
I should say, it’s an expansion upon his article last week on Saudi/UK/Libya/Manchester.
The independent candidate also seems to be talking about something involving HSBC and the Serious Fraud Office
You might find some answers here:
http://nicholaswilson.com/
The hustings for Hastings & Rye were held at Rye Parish Church (30 April) and the Hastings Centre (28 April). The latter venue appears to be an ‘indistrial shed’ building so it can be excluded. There is confirmation of a repeat event on 3rd June.
Here is the Rye Parish Church ‘about’ page.
http://www.ryeparishchurch.org.uk/aboutus.htm
The more we find out about Amber Rudd, the more we realise just how corrupt our politics have become. For her to launch the ‘Labour money tree’ smear that Lynton Crosby has now espoused when her and her family have a history of dodgy financial dealings losing other people millions is incredible. Her appointment as Home Secretary when under police investigation for electoral fraud is an equally incredible conflict of interest and was likely to be prejudicial to both the police investigations and the weird decisions of the CPS. Where was there any consideration of conspiracy charges which must surely have occurred with so many cases of the identical nature?
Seconded. Here’s a good Guardian piece from last year (I’m sure you’ll have seen it already, I’m only posting it for others to see), on Rudd’s extremely dodgy family business dealings :
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/05/revealed-amber-rudds-father-was-involved-in-business-she-ran-despite-being-declared-unfit
Maybe Amber Rudd would like to explain why the UK government did nothing about the FBI warning given to MI5 last year that the attacker was planning to attack a ‘political target’?
We have 26,000 *known* jihadists operating in the UK. There are around 3,000 people, covering everything from intelligence gathering to firearms units, dedicated to stopping them. Tell us why nothing happened and what needs to be done.
Haha! Bloody hilarious! The pomposity of our rulers is boundless! And the real laugh is that they don’t realise how ridiculous it makes them look to us plebs!
Yes, but they’re still getting away with it.
And will until everyone wakes up….
In the event that you do not consider yourself to have any personal responsibility for anything, consider this:
Are you shocked/angered/disappointed that Donald Trump has withdrawn the US from the Paris Climate Agreement? Do you think that man made global warming is a problem and do you think something should be done about it?
If you think any of these things then consider that in the UK annual per capita energy consumption is 3,254.1 kgoe (kilograms of oil equivalent). This figure includes not only the energy actively used, but also the energy used in transporting your food – before you get to buy it.
In Namibia the equivalent figure is 341.1 kgoe – or just over 10% of the UK figure. Anyone really interested in addressing carbon emissions could move to Namibia. I am not suggesting that everyone could move to Namibia but that some people could – especially those people who express most concern about global warming.
The fact that no-one is doing so tells you all you need to know regarding the vacuous nature of the moral outrage greeting a decision by the President of the US – a decision that they can do nothing about.
Every person that moves to the west from the 3rd world increases their individual their individual energy consumption by around 90% and hence increases their individual carbon footprint by around 90%.
Do you not see an obvious contradiction in being simultaneously concerned about global warming and being pro immigration. The two things are mutually exclusive.
How can you possibly expect politicians to represent you when your expressed views are both idiotic and wholly narcissistic infused with an absolute refusal to take ownership of your own lives.
“Anyone really interested in addressing carbon emissions could move to Namibia.”
Right of you go then, since you’re so concerned. Incidently the population of Nigeria is around 182 million people, dominated predominantly by young energy hungry people.
Once Africa catches up with the west, it will require huge amounts of power.
I’m sure when you arrive in Namibia, you’ll be able to convince them otherwise. ?
Man I lived in Namibia for years and did just fine. The only reason I ever left was because of family illness in Europe. I did not tend to have on demand access to washing machines (something you seem to consider so vital) and neither did I find it necessary never to wash my clothes.
I spent no time trying to convince anyone of anything in particular – all fine and all good.
It is absolutely fine and I can recommend it very highly.
Nigeria is fucked – on target to reach a population of 400 million by mid century and has absolutely no chance of ever replicating the living standards currently available in the west.
“I spent no time trying to convince anyone of anything in particular – all fine and all good.”
Yet here you are trying to convince anyone in here that will listen to you, to stop buying stuff.
Try going around knocking on doors asking people to not buy new products. However I’d advise you to take your mobile phone with you, it will be quicker when phoning the ambulance.
I rest my case.
NB.
“Nigeria is fucked ”
Now that’s not very progressive thinking is it?
I am not like the people that infest the UK – deal with my own problems and tend to my own injuries.
I do not care what is progressive or non progressive. I am concerned with reality.
“I am not like the people that infest the UK ”
Charming, so that’s how you see British people then, as some kind of infestation.
“I do not care what is progressive or non progressive. I am concerned with reality.”
So you’re not interested in progress either, why am I not surprised.
I agree, its a platitude to express belief in man-made global warming, and its done for a variety of self-serving reasons by different interest groups for different reasons. I’m sure there are some who have a religious conviction about it, like the Pope, to replace flat earth theology, but behind the prophets are those seeking profits from the scam.
Jings Craig, be careful! Next thing Amber Rudd will send a guy round to take those posters down!
What was the size of the audience for this talk I wonder? And yet Rudd is sufficiently rattled to get this guy closed down. Maybe the elites’ grip is more tenuous than we think!
“Rudd is sufficiently rattled to get this guy closed down.”
Mentioning Saudi Arabia in a poor light, is a bit like referring to Israel in the same fashion, in certain quarters it thoroughly taboo.
According to Christopher Stephens writing in Shadow Wars – The Secret Struggle for the Middle East, Britain has been colluding with radical Islam for at least 120 years:
Excerpt from Chapter 3 – sub-heading: Searching for an Islamic State – Britain’s Caliphate
Forged through conquest, the Saudi-Wahhabi entity was also brutally sectarian, repeatedly attacking Shia communities along the coastline of the Persian Gulf in the 1790s, and pillaging Shia shrines in Iraq in 1801 and 1802. In Karbala, scene of an ancient battle between the Sunni caliph and the Shia, represented by the Prophet Muhammad’s grandson Hussein, the Saudis slaughtered most of the town’s population, destroyed the dome over the grave of one of Shiism’s founders, and ‘looted property, weapons, clothing, carpets, gold, silver and precious copies of the Qur’an’. The smashing of the Karbala dome along with others in Mecca has been described as the ‘signature activity’ of Wahhabism at the time.
Despite such barbarity, by 1899 the Saudis were being encouraged by Britain to use its protectorate of Kuwait as a launch pad to further their campaign against rival tribes and the Ottomans. Capturing Riyadh in 1902, Ibn Saud and his Wahhabi militia, the Ikhwan, quickly went on to conquer most of the other central and eastern parts of Arabia. Signing a treaty with Ibn Saud in 1915, Britain ‘formally recognized [him] as the independent ruler… under British protection. In return he undertook to follow British advice.’ Remarkably, in 1917, a year after the Sykes–Picot agreement had already promised Arabia to the Hashemites, and at exactly the same time that both Mark Sykes and François Georges-Picot visited Mecca to discuss their plans with Hussein, Britain had also decided to put Ibn Saud on a handsome monthly retainer of £5,000. Described as a ‘Bedouin chief for hire’, his son Faisal was even invited to take a tour around London.
With the First World War drawing to a close it still seemed Hussein was in pole position, as his monthly retainer was £12,000, and an estimated £11 million – an enormous sum for that time – had been transferred to the Hashemite coffers. Having coordinated much of the Arab Revolt via their man on the ground, Colonel Thomas Lawrence, or ‘Lawrence of Arabia’, Britain’s Cairo-based Arab Bureau continued to back the Mecca plan on the basis they would be best placed to oversee the process of switching the caliphate from Turkish to Arab control. The bureau chief, David Hogarth, was unequivocal in his views, having described the Saudi pretenders as having a ‘fanatical creed unsuited to most of the Islamic world’. With the Ottoman Empire all but finished by 1919, Hussein duly pleaded with Hogarth and others to ensure that Ibn Saud’s power was held in check and that the Ikhwan was destroyed, because it was a ‘political society in the cloak of religion’. By the end of the year it seemed London was heeding such calls and was prepared to fulfil the Sykes–Picot promises, as at one point even the Royal Air Force was used to support Hussein’s attempts to roll back the Saudis.
In many ways, however, Britain’s actions against the Ikhwan were just part of a ‘friendly rivalry’, as London secretly continued to back both sides at the same time. The India Office in particular seemed to favour Ibn Saud over Hussein on the basis that the Ikhwan’s ferocity would help ward off other rival powers from entering the Persian Gulf. Although posthumously transformed into the blond-haired, blue-eyed Hollywood hero of the Arab people, even Lawrence was wholly at ease with the duplicitous double game. Commenting in a secret intelligence report on the British plan, he described Hussein as ‘beneficial to us, because [he] marches with our immediate aims, the break-up of the Islamic “bloc” and the defeat and disruption of the Ottoman Empire, and because the states he would set up would be as harmless to ourselves as Turkey was’. The ideal scenario for Lawrence, it seemed, was ‘if properly handled [the Arab states] would remain in a state of political mosaic, a tissue of jealous principalities incapable of cohesion, and yet always ready to combine against an outside force’. He also later explained that ‘Hussein was ultimately chosen because of the rift he would create in Islam. In other words, divide and rule.’ The India Office similarly noted the advantages of such a strategy, with one report stating: ‘What we want… is not a united Arabia, but a weak and disunited Arabia, split up into little principalities so far as possible under our suzerainty.’ On the subject of manipulating dangerous elements such as the Ikhwan , Lawrence was also quite comfortable, pointing out that when a ‘Wahhabi-like Muslim form of Bolshevism’ had welled up in southern Iraq, it was easily put down by British aircraft and on-the-ground spotters.
The Saudi-Wahhabi killing spree that ensued as Lawrence’s ‘tissue of jealous principalities’ continued to pull each other apart led to an estimated 400,000 dead with 40,000 public executions, 350,000 amputations, ‘scorched-earth’ battlefields, and the displacement of an estimated one million persons, most of whom fled to neighbouring countries. With the Ikhwan responsible for much of the carnage, Ibn Saud claimed to his British employers that they were operating independently of his control. Perceptive British officials however stated that ‘[Ibn Saud] does not want it to be known that he himself is at the bottom of the whole thing, and is fostering and guiding the movement for his own ends.’ As colonial secretary, Winston Churchill was similarly well aware of the reality, having informed parliament at the time that the Ikhwan was ‘austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty… they hold it as an article of duty as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children… men have been killed for smoking a cigarette.’ Moreover, Churchill had earlier warned of the dangers of using such extremist Islamist militias in Britain’s wars in Sudan, having written that ‘no stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Muhammadism is a militant and proselytizing faith.’ He also claimed it led to a ‘fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog’.
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There’s no way we can believe politicians when they act shocked by terrorism either at home or abroad – ‘we’ have been stoking or waging a war of terror for centuries.
thank you for sharing this…
Interesting piece from the Canary on Nicholas Wilson’s Independent anti-corruption campaign. He doesn’t sound that impressed with Labour either, although he admits the importance of not splitting the Labour vote.
https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/24/the-home-secretary-just-got-some-really-bad-news-about-tory-election-fraud/
” I just got a call saying the Residents’ Committee of the apartment block where I live were instructing me to remove the SNP poster from my balcony (It is a small A3 poster). My reply was extremely rude, I am afraid, and I have now put up a second poster.”
be careful Craig, you don’t want to make yourself homeless.
I was hoping to put up a vote labour poster in my front window or front garden…but none of them have turned up. The tories, liberal and even the independent candidate have several times. The labour party obviously realise they don’t stand a chance round here – they are probably all in some Tory/Labour marginal.
“What is happening to the understanding of democracy in this country? ” Which country are you referring to? The one that Manchester is in.. or the vicar’s?
Tony
An excellent summary of the links between the Manchester murderer and the UK government/security outfits.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47179.htm
What did the British government (especially the Home Secretary – Amber Rudd) know and when did they know it?
Anonymous
There enough material there to hang Cameron, May and Hague. Boris Johnson has of course already succeeded in hanging himself by directly supporting Al Qaida in parliament as Foreign Secretary.
People should know who they’re voting for on June 8th.
Nafez Ahmed is a great researcher and writer, as is Mark Curtis. thanks for that link Anonymous.
our past mistakes are coming home to haunt us, whilst Mrs. May accepts trinkets from terror sponsors. Qatar should have the football world cup cancelled for supporting terror groups in Syria. Can FIFA really rely on the safety of all football teams when this small Wahabi led country is making so many enemies in the world.
Should we allow UK security firms and mercenaries to train their fundamentalist idealising Government forces, and or operate there?
Typical of establishment control and the desperation of the Tories to cover up the UK selling arms to Saudi Arabia and therefore adding support to terrorism.
Well, one positive thing to emerge from the London slayings is that the Met – under its excellent new Commissioner, Cressida Dick – did not pussyfoot around with the terrorists but dispatched them into the great beyond with admirable dispatch.
Perhaps the UK has learnt something from how the Israelis deal with bastards like that.
There is a piece in JPost, which we could learn from. Its on how Israel’s tec revolution was fathered 50 years ago by de Gaulle albeit inadvertently because his response to the 6 day war was to withdraw military and thus tec support for Israel thereby forcing Israel to further self reliance. The lesson is that needs can drive innovation. There was also another consequence ie cozying up to US in place of France & Russia. Anyway, we are now increasingly independent from EU. It’s about time we reassessed relations with Saudi. And we might as well learn a lesson from the Pope and speak frankly with the White House, or whoever it is who yanks Trump’s strings.
Looks like Corbyn is the only one up to the job. Funny old world.
Perhaps one can learn from how the Israelis deal with bastards like this?
” “Israel quite openly backing al-Qaeda in Syria. Interview with former Mossad chief Efraim Halevy.”
Totally inappropriate to compare the two situations.
agreed.
Rest in Peace Jean Charles de Menezes. You were only 27 when your life was taken from you by Ms Dick’s armed officers. They had been trained in Israel. They pumped seven hollow tip bullets into your head and another in your shoulder. Three others missed their target. 11 bullets to kill one innocent man!
Who would gain from exploiting murder in London, to advertise occupationist crimes against humanty in terms that Heinrich Himmler would envy?
“Perhaps the UK has learnt something from how the Israelis deal with bastards like that.”
Yes, will you also be advocating the demolition of the homes of family members next ?
For the rest of us non Israeli Apologists, we know the moral difference between a “Shoot to kill” & “Shoot when necessary” policy .
Was your response along the lines of ‘Away and take a flying feck to yourselves’ Craig ?
Hope so.
Saw this earlier on WoS.
Maybe a word about AR’s husbands links to the Saudi share sell off, as an update ?
I would think an important role for Amber Rudd is if the Tories can’t stop Labour first by fair means then by foul, she will be setting-up the secret services and hush-hush agencies within the police to undermine Jeremy Corbyn’s government.
Over 100 noted economists have written a letter saying that Britain needs a change of direction away from seven years of ruinous Tory austerity dogma, and towards an the investment based recovery strategy detailed in the Labour Party manifesto.
The pro-Tory mainstream press march in lockstep with the Tories, promoting the Orwellian propaganda narrative that the Tories are the party of economic competence.
This fiction is still ubiquitously parroted in the mainstream media despite the fact that the Tories have missed all of their headline economic targets since 2010 (remember how they were going to eliminate the budget deficit before May 2015, yet it’s still over £50 billion now?) and as a result of all of these missed targets they’ve created more new public debt in seven years than every single Labour government in history combined!
Tory austerity dogma was always “race to the bottom” rubbish. They missed their economic targets over and again, and only succeeded in helping the mega-rich minority to literally double their wealth, while ordinary British workers suffered the longest and most severe wage squeeze in recorded history.
The extreme right-wing dominance of the UK media is such that millions of people actually believe this widespread, but completely backwards fairy story of Tory economic competence.
Anyway, here’s the letter that over 100 economics experts (including the fantastic Steve Keen and Ha-Joon Chang) have signed in support of Labour’s investment-based recovery strategy: (letter and signatories)
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http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/over-100-economists-want-you-to-stop.html
In the graphic at the top, Osborne and Hammond are described as a pair of charlatans who, as economic vandals, trashed the UK economy with their austerity dogma.
Thanks Sharp Ears:
“Tory austerity dogma was always “race to the bottom” rubbish. They missed their economic targets over and again, and only succeeded in helping the mega-rich minority to literally double their wealth, while ordinary British workers suffered the longest and most severe wage squeeze in recorded history.”
I repeat from my reply to Anonymous above:
People should know who they’re voting for on June 8th.
Residents’ Committee? Is it like Committees for the Defense of the Revolution (Spanish: Comités de Defensa de la Revolution)? If they cannot assure even the barest minimum of ideological unity, no bourgeois “freedom” can help us. And being rude to the representative of the people (Residents’) has no excuse.
Residents’ committees and apartment block managements always attract Tory types and small “c” conservatives to run them. They are routinely the most small minded, petty, obedient, philistine, prosaic bunch of bores you could wish to meet and their almost sole interest is in keeping the value of their properties as high as possible.
As for the video, I hope this goes super-viral. I would say the same of any candidate of any persuasion who attempted so disgracefully to shut down a perfectly valid discussion.
Ooh, Craig – I hope you didn’t use any badd wurdz in your reply to your residents’ association. On a Sunday, as well!
Apologies if it’s been mooted before, and in no way am I insinuating collusion, but…
Terrrrist attacks seem to be like buses.
Nothing for ages, thanks no doubt to the hard work of our security & police service (to loud guffaws from our more vociferous, conspiracy minded commentee’s), then three in three months.
Now, you might say, ‘aye, it’s because there’s an election on’, maximum effect and all that. But we got through the Olympics unscathed, and if there’s a better opportunity to maximize terrrrr…
It looks like a few thousand peeps have un-watched the video.
It was way over a hundred thousand, hours ago, and now ? 99 odd thou.
You dear old-fashioned thing, you. It’s called DEMOCKERY.
I have no idea who the ” independent candidate for Hastings and Rye Nicholas Wilson” is, but in his first speech, the sound was aweful – hard to make some of it out…he was almost completely monotone, not using any passion whatsoever by raising and lowering his voice at the appropriate parts. he was basically boring everyone to death…he wasn’t saying anything interesting. I could well understand whoever was in control of the debate, to ring the bell early, but they didn’t.
Then he has another go – and his speech is full of passion and he delivered it really well. Amber Rudd – obviously couldn’t stand to hear the truth – but who the hell is she to write a note – and pass it on to the old bloke “in control”? For him to walk up centre stage and demand his microphone 2 minutes too early – was completely hilarious and outrageous…whilst Nicholas Wilson was quite obviously completely innocent.
Amber Rudd – you are nearly as bad as Theresa May.
What a bunch of useless clowns these Tories are (and I’m being polite)
I think Amber Rudd, may well have broken electoral law, and if true should be prosecuted.
We are supposed to live in a Democracy, not a one party fascist state.
if I lived in Hastings or Rye (some of my relations still do), I might well want to vote for Nicholas Wilson, but he has been denied free speech, merely for telling the truth on an electoral platform, as an official Independent candidate.
That is simply not right, and I am almost certain it is illegal.
Tony
If anyone wants to get at Amber Rudd in Hastings & Rye they should vote for the Labour candidate.
If Jeremy’s good enough for the YPG then he’s got my vote… A friend has just me this piece from the Canary :
https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/04/british-fighters-syria-calling-people-vote-jeremy-corbyn-defeat-isis-image/
It seems compelling enough to me.
Rudd. A friend reckons he has seen documents that prove she took a 30 grand bung. Some housing project. He posted it on my Facebook. I warned him about libel etc but he said bring it on!
Probably one of a million such anecdotes about our glorious leaders
Hmmm, you’re a tease. Come on, dish up please. 🙂
Pretty please ?
British regime sells loads of arms to middle eastern regimes, and then doesn’t want the issue brought up, when terrorists commit atrocities in Britain.
I think they call it censorship.
Thank goodness for the truth-tellers.
The internet is a real thorn in the side to liars and corrupt regimes. No wonder they want to do away with it.
There was a hustings in St Mary Church Hastings last night. See:
http://events.labour.org.uk/event/45851
I presume that was the event?
If so, the minister Rev Canon David Frost might be the man? Though other pictures of him show him looking a bit thinner than the gentleman who censored the speaker….
I have reason to believe that Canon Frost was not the man filmed (personal communication with Nicholas Wilson).
Craig, Anent your poster problem. I have always found, when dealing with jobsworth who try to make life awkward for me, a two-word response often works.
These words are: “Aye Right!” Most jobsworths, when they hear this, think they have won, and, by the time they realise they have lost, you can be as cheeky as you like.
If they do know the significance of: “Aye Right”, they will not bother you again, they will know they have lost.
A two word response now and again works for me as well, only it’s not “Aye Right”. J
I don’t know if its been mentioned here yet – but Gilad Atzmon got attacked in Edinburgh a couple of days ago, where Craig lives – don’t worry he’s O.K.
“Gilad Atzmon Physically Attacked by Antifa”
http://thesaker.is/gilad-atzmon-physically-attacked-by-antifa/
Tony