Those Who Die in Palestine: Those With Dead Souls Here 251


I cannot imagine the cold courage it must take to be a Palestinian, walking in protest, unarmed, towards the fence that contains the agony of their long drawn-out genocide, in the knowledge that the bullets will start splintering bones and ripping out brain matter around them, and every millisecond could be their own last.

I cannot imagine the cold viciousness it must take to work on the Guardian newspaper, where on the homepage the small headline of the latest six Palestinians to be shot dead, is way below the larger headline of the several hundredth article associating Jeremy Corbyn with anti-Semitism, on the basis of the quite deliberate conflation of anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel.


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251 thoughts on “Those Who Die in Palestine: Those With Dead Souls Here

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  • exiled off mainstreet

    For decades I relied on the Guardian for a realistic non-propaganda view of reality. Under the new regime, it has gone full Goebbels for the power structure, including fomenting war, propagating dangerous stereotypes, and parroting various controlling regimes of the anglo-Saxon world. If I’m not mistaken, the leading executives in control of the content have been parachuted in from New York.

    • N_

      I stopped reading the Guardian in 2006, but it went downhill a lot in 1994 when “New Labour” appeared. Nowadays it’s toilet paper only.

      As a rule, it used to be
      Times ~ weapons sector
      Guardian ~ Big Pharma.
      Dunno whether that still holds. More probably both are pro any big moneyed interest.

      • alwaywrite

        the trouble is Fleet Street out put is essentially a comfort blanket, it’s always been there to maintain the status quo

        in the past that was UK imperialism, now its a hybrid Anglo American form of imperialism, with the EU bit bolted on

  • durak

    The Guardian is a mere shadow of itself of twenty years ago.

    It is now a neoliberal mouthpiece pining for the good old Tony Blair days… you know they want to continue “business as usual”.

    • Bill Rollinson

      It’s not just the Guardian, I have noticed it with the Daily Mirror’s Brian Reade. He thought the sun shone out of Blairs arse and he has no time for Corbyn, Strange I thought, for a Scouser, yet pre Blair he was a strong Labour supporter?
      I’m sceptical, I think the ‘political’ journo’s have been bought off, by the Zionists, to push their NWO agenda.
      This is why they are screaming antisemitic at Corbyn now. As I said last week, May will be forced to apologise to Russia and they don’t want Corbyn leader of Labour as they go to election!!
      He’ll really kill their agenda, he’s already stated he’ll change how banking is done [Bradbury £ or similar] and he’ll bring back nationalised industry as competition to Corporations, that’ll be a first in a long time.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I don’t know who James O’Neill is, but he wrote this which appeared on Off-Guardian today. I thought it summed the situation really well. So far as I am aware, no Palestinians, Semites, Jews, Anti-Semites nor Israeli’s were involved. It simply seems to be an English/Russian affair. I’m sure even The Americans and The Scottish will deny any pre-knowledge.

    “Yet on 14 March 2018, one week before the judgement, and weeks before the scientific results could possibly be known, British prime minister Therese May was telling the House of Commons that the culprit was a nerve agent “of a type developed by Russia” that had been used, and that it was “an unlawful use of force by the Russian State against the United Kingdom.”

    Whether or not May appreciated it, such a statement amounted to her declaring that Russia had committed an act of war against the United Kingdom, contrary to international law. Her statements, together with those of her foreign minister Boris Johnson, carried hyperbole to extreme lengths. It immediately brings to mind the Mad Queen from Alice in Wonderland who demanded the sentence before the verdict.”

    “The Rapidly Evolving Skripal Story: Evidence of the Destruction of an Anglo-American Plan”

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/07/the-rapidly-evolving-skripal-story-evidence-of-the-destruction-of-an-anglo-american-plan/

    Tony

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I don’t know who James O’Neill is, but he wrote this which appeared on Off-Guardian today. I thought it summed the situation really well. So far as I am aware, no “redacted”,”redacted”, “redacted”, “redacted” nor “redacted” were involved. It simply seems to be an English/Russian affair. I’m sure even The Americans and The Scottish will deny any pre-knowledge or involvement.

    “Yet on 14 March 2018, one week before the judgement, and weeks before the scientific results could possibly be known, British prime minister Therese May was telling the House of Commons that the culprit was a nerve agent “of a type developed by Russia” that had been used, and that it was “an unlawful use of force by the Russian State against the United Kingdom.”

    Whether or not May appreciated it, such a statement amounted to her declaring that Russia had committed an act of war against the United Kingdom, contrary to international law. Her statements, together with those of her foreign minister Boris Johnson, carried hyperbole to extreme lengths. It immediately brings to mind the Mad Queen from Alice in Wonderland who demanded the sentence before the verdict.”

    “The Rapidly Evolving Skripal Story: Evidence of the Destruction of an Anglo-American Plan”

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/07/the-rapidly-evolving-skripal-story-evidence-of-the-destruction-of-an-anglo-american-plan/

    Tony

    • knuckles

      He is a QC who has a few articles published on OffG.

      Read his thoughts on the Litvinenko ”inquiry”. Very informative stuff.

  • james

    i liked what someone else said about the guardian – ORWELL HQ… there is no way to get around that… once that is acknowledged though – it becomes clear as a bell… wasn’t it a brit who wrote alice in wonderland? come to think of it – was orwell british too?

  • Squeeth

    Comment isn’t Free has been purging dissenters for quite a while. I’ve been banned for a couple of years. Ouanqueuers.

  • Monster

    The Guardian was nearly bankrupt at the time of the pre-arranged Snowden disc-crushing pantomime. Since then a steady flow of large cash amounts has boosted its finances. So it appears that holding an opinion that coincides with the US, the UK Tory government and Israel is good for your financial health. Hence support for Israeli terror.

    • Donald

      I think you’ll find HSBC among many started pumping money into the Guardian in the form of legitimate advertising revenue. Do as your told Guardian or we’ll withdraw our ‘advertising revenue’…..

    • Ultraviolet

      I found some interesting stuff about that on a US blog.

      https://thedailybanter.com/2014/01/the-guardian-releases-video-footage-of-its-snowden-computer-smash-up-more-puzzling-questions-emerge/

      The article accompanying the video, written by Luke Harding, clarifies that the Snowden files were stored on “four laptops,” which were then destroyed by The Guardian staffers. This matches early reports from August when The Guardian’s editor, Alan Rusbridger said that the computers were MacBook Pros. But as we noticed at the time, not all the parts were from MacBooks. Several of the parts were actually from a PC — a very old, outdated PC.

      Well, once again, new photos that appeared in the video clearly show desktop PC parts. Specifically, a cumbersome power supply, a motherboard, an external PC keyboard and a cooling fan, neither of which belong inside a MacBook Pro. In fact, in the photo below from the video alleging to show the destroyed computer parts only shows PC parts.

      This was one of the things that started me seriously questioning whether the Guardian was still worth reading.

  • Squeeth

    I’m pleased to day that the last Graun reader I know is weaning herself off the Saturday version, the last daily Graun she can bear to buy, beginning today.

  • Jimmy the Whistler

    Stopped buying the Guardian, when it lost it’s objectivity and balanced reporting As for Mr Murray, I support his comments on this subject. What a f’ked up world of skewed logic and callus action, when the lives of a people are dismissed, yet where it is politically useful, the making of three people ill, is worth so much more. I am ashamed that our so called leaders act this way, and likewise ashamed that we as ‘the public’ continue to vote these b’stards into power.

  • DiggerUK

    The print media is watching it’s own demise. Web media is going to be as dramatic in the world of human existence as the printing press was.
    To keep revenues they have to become more and more outrageous in their presentation to survive…_

  • Sharp Ears

    The gangsters-in-charge as we refer to them.
    https://www.theguardian.com/the-scott-trust/2015/jul/26/the-scott-trust-board

    Previously Carolyn McCall was chair of Guardian Media Group which is wholly owned by the Scott Trust. She left to run Easyjet and is now ensconced at ITV. She has made a packet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_McCall.

    The current Board. I see BLiar’s publisher on the list.
    The board of directors are:
    Neil Berkett (chair)
    David Pemsel (chief executive officer)
    Katharine Viner (editor-in-chief)
    Alex Graham (chair of the Scott Trust)
    Jennifer Duvalier
    Nigel Morris
    John Paton
    Baroness Gail Rebuck
    Coram Williams
    Richard Kerr
    Yasmin Jetha

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Media_Group

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    • Alex Westlake

      Brilliant. I’m not generally a fan of Trump but Nikki Haley as Ambassador to the UN was a fantastic appointment.

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  • N_

    Having received a request fpr a meeting between the Russian ambassador in London, Alexander Yakovenko, and British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, the British Foreign Office has responded by denouncing the request to the media as “diversionary” and sneering that they will reply “in due course“. They show the kind of manners displayed by Kay Burley.

    If Boris Johnson is too busy telling lies and snorting cocaine to meet with the Russian ambassador – which is to say, to do his job: to represent Britain to a foreign country – what point is there in the two countries continuing to keep ambassadors in each other’s capitals?

    Russia should consider withdrawing Yakovenko and giving Laurie Bristow, the Ezra Pound guy who works as the British ambassador in Moscow, a bloody good kick up his coccyx that lands him back in Britain until the Foreign Office learn some manners.

    If the two Russian citizens were attacked they were attacked in Britain. Boris Johnson should have the guts to discuss them with the Russian ambassador. What will it take to remove this deranged narcisstic guy, this pillock of pillocks?

    Does anyone really want to find out what he’s capable of when the English football team play their World Cup match in Kaliningrad?

  • Leonard Young

    The Guardian is a lifestyle magazine whose opinion and lifestyle columns outnumber actual news by a ratio of at least four to one. The rot set in when its editors could not accept that Blair and Brown governments had morphed into quasi Tory regimes (some would say they were from the beginning). Then came the expansion into the US then Australian versions. This lurched it further to the right.

    The Assange affair was a turning point. It painted Assange as a whistle-blowing hero one week, and slagged him off relentlessly thereafter when Assange announced he would not agree to an exclusive deal regarding wikileaks. No newspaper before or since has thrown such a publicly obvious borderline personality disorder hissy-fit. Then we had another Guardian turncoat exercise when Chelsea (Bradley) Manning was declared another hero, but that turned sour when the Guardian realised its US edition was untenable in supporting Manning. So a couple of years ago it attempted to expunge Manning from its nominees for “person of the year”. After protests from thousands of its UK readers it was forced to grudgingly allow Manning back on the list and he won that vote by miles.

    Today’s online Guardian is almost devoid of any news article that wasn’t sourced and regurgitated from third parties. The vast majority of its output has almost no news or intelligent, unbiased analysis. Today’s online edition has a prominent article about a lifestyle social media “entrepreneur” who appears to make a living out of buy-to-lets and deals he makes on corporate jets – so very new Guardian. The online edition is peppered with these ghastly people.

    The final, long, straw for me was the 200 plus anti Corbyn smear articles beginning in 2015 and culminating in 2017 until suddenly the Guardian realised its core readership was not buying its relentless tropes, and a brief period of encouragement ensued, followed by the current mad antisemitism fiction that returns Corbyn to the usual five minutes of hate exercise.

    The most recent debacle must be the preposterous article slagging off an independent journalist who elsewhere presented cast iron evidence about the true nature of the White Helmets and who bothered to actually travel to Syria for herself, at considerable personal risk, to find out. The Guardian hit job was written by an IT journalist who appears not to have even been to the middle east and has no knowledge or expertise in that region.

    The old duffers at the Guardian are now highly paid, past their sell-by date, buy-to-let owning, corporate stooges who have no connection with, or awareness of, the real world. At least the Torygraph, Times and Sun let you know in advance on which side their toast is buttered. The Guardian pretends it is one thing but is quite another. Sadly I know a lot of people who actually still believe it is a journal of the left, and that is how it apparently survives. Dear old Manchester Guardian – how I miss you.

    • Radar O’Reilly

      @LY, thanks for your interesting analysis; this curious episode – and its related fallout, seem for me another turning-point in the demise of the credibility of the Manchester Grauniad.

      http://also.dylanreeve.com/2013/08/the-guardians-curiously-crushed-computers/

      From around 2015 someone in the paper even started reprinting verbatim Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty articles, with their own peculiar view of the universe. Public Diplomacy & strategic communications, is the official term, I believe, supported by a humongous $$$ budget.

      I more or less skim all the msm headlines, but follow the 1%, who wouldn’t tolerate that much propaganda whilst planning their next investments, and read in-depth at the F.T. , balanced with the opinion of the learned blogosphere.

    • Crackerjack

      Great post Leonard.

      They also use the dangerous fantasist known as Eliot Higgins and his Bellendcat organisation as a serious commentator

      I read it in my youth (late 70’s early 80’s) – it covered the US’s crimes in Central America and of course the Thatcher years amongst other things very well. Didn’t read it for many years until recently and was frankly horrified to see what it had become.

      The rot well and truly set in with appointment of Viner post Snowden from what I can make out

    • Monteverdi

      Thank you Leonard Young. An excellent analysis of a paper both print and online devoid of serious principled journalism. As you now correctly describe it, ” a lifestyle magazine ”.
      Like yourself a once reader of the Manchester Guardian.

    • SA

      Excellent summary of how a once respected paper has declined. I used to comment on articles in the Guardian on line . It became increasingly clear to me that the the Guardian was not interested in any view that their chriticised thier ‘experts’. One of thier main sources on Russia is Luke Harding who has been banned from Russia but can still be counted upon to write a lot of unverified conspiracy theories about Russia. Thier Syria specialists are based in Gaziantep (Chulov) and Beirut (Shaheen) who do not report any real Syrian point of view and appear to be pro Islamist and never objective.
      Another group that Guardian is proud to be associated with is the New East Network with funds from the usual suspects including Soros and which specialise in negative publicity, not to mention occasional quotes from Radio Free Europe. Fearsome independent journalism indeed.

  • Andrew Carter

    How long now before Yulia Skripal suffers a sudden and terminal relapse?

    She is now surely de facto a prisoner of the Home Office and it beggars belief that the ‘official Solictor’ (i.e. Handler) appointed to represent her hasn’t applied for a writ of habeas corpus

    • Andrew Carter

      British football fans wishing to watch the World Cup won’t need a visa to enter Russia; family members of tourists hospitalised in the UK due to military grade poisoning can’t get a visa

      Go figure which country is the more humane and civilised

  • Sharp Ears

    I see that Rebuck (publisher of BLiar’s execrable A Journey) is a director of his Faith Foundation. She has also been on the board of the Guardian Media Group. She was married to the late Philip Gould the Nu Labour party head honcho when Blair and Brown were around.

    http://www.4-traders.com/business-leaders/Dame-Gail-Rebuck-066KL2-E/biography/

    She was given a peerage in 2014 and sits in the Lords as a Labour peer. One of her daughters is Leader of Camden Council. That is the way in which things are run in this country.

  • Macha

    I cancelled my Guardian/Observer subscription on Monday (2nd April) after the weekend’s appalling display of right wing idiocy. It seems incredibly sad not to be able to support Carole Cadwalladr in her vital work, but there are bars below which I am not prepared to sink and this is a new low. So back to the i – because we need something to light the fire…

  • Paul Berry

    Why is everyone afraid of telling the truth about the Israeli act of genocide. We all feel sorry and disgusted about the holocaust but allow the Israeli murder of innocents to continue with very little comment from politicians or press. It would appear that the Israeli government complains when they are not shown sympathy or compassion but are incapable of showing similar sentiments.

  • lysias

    Apparently Voltaire never actually said that the way to determine who is ruling you is to find out whom you are not allowed to criticize. But, if he didn’t say it, he should have said it. Se non e Vero, e ben trovato.

    • lysias

      I guess I’m lucky that all that Autocorrect ended up doing to me was making the first letter of vero upper case. It was trying to change trovato to tomato, but that I stopped.

    • Dom

      A sick nation. But I doubt the numbers in the UK parliament would be much higher. It would immediately identify you as an antisemite in the eyes of both main parties.

  • bj

    Israel is the Sick Man of the Middle East; it is, morally, bankrupt. Avoid at all costs.

    • Loony

      Israel may well be morally bankrupt – but the sick man of the Middle East? Surely that is stretching it a bit.

      Take a look at some Saudi Arabian cultural activities – like throwing inappropriately dressed women into burning buildings.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm

      Maybe you are a lifeguard interested in plying your trade in warmer climes like the UAE. In which case this morally pure story may be of interest

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/man-lets-daughter-drown-rather-than-let-strange-men-touch-her-10448008.html

      The big problem you have with your morality argument is that the people that throw women into fires and attack lifeguards to prevent their daughter being rescued are acting out of their own morality.

      What happens when different people have a radically different morality? Is compromise possible?

      • lysias

        Saudi Arabia and Israel are both mortally sick. As the U.S. empire collapses, they are both doomed. Let us hope Israel does not exercise its Sampson Option. If Israelis are offered the option of resetting in Western countries, perhaps that will be enough to persuade them not to commit suicide and kill everybody else with them.

        • Casual Observer

          The so called Samson Option is guff and always has been. Can you imagine the ire that would follow ? It’d make Hitlers efforts look benign.

      • bj

        Yes, those are horrific crimes.
        But just because P commits crimes, doesn’t mean Q cannot, too, commit crimes.

        I agree with you that ‘morality’ isn’t absolute. So you are addressing the wrong party: it is Israel’s Defense Forces, the fine IDF, that calls itself ‘the most moral army in the world’.

      • SA

        Loony
        What a rather lame post. Because of these two incidents from 2002 and 2015, you would like to compare this with sustained actions of a state in iccupying another subjecting then to daily humility an and seige and starvation, then arranging snipers to deliberately murder civilians. Please choose better examples.

  • Bunkum

    The Sunday Times will make you puke tomorrow but will show everyone who is behind the pantomime.

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