The Mills of God Grind Slowly. Particularly in Spain. 685



One of these two is a dreadful spiv and crook. The other is Arthur Daley.

That’s Luis Barcenas, former Treasurer of the ruling Francoist successor Popular Party in Spain and long time confidante of Prime Minister Rajoy, happily now in prison for his part in a corruption scandal in which, over twenty years, hundreds of millions of euros in kickbacks from taxpayer-funded projects were channelled into the Popular Party coffers, and then doled out in secret payments to party leaders. Rajoy himself had to give evidence in court and the judgement made plain he was not believed.

This is the obvious cause of the no confidence motion that may lead to the Popular Party being removed from power tomorrow. The power of the brown envelope may yet save Rajoy, and the constitutional role of a monarchy which is itself financially corrupt will also come into play.

It says everything about the state of Spanish politics, that in responding in Parliament to the charge of corruption in the no-confidence debate today, Rajoy should turn to the leader of the opposition and declaim “And who do you think you are, Mother Theresa? Your hands are not so clean”. It says even more about Spain that this has not caused shock and “you are corrupt too” is not seen as a wildly inappropriate defence. It is true that the Socialist Party has no shortage of its own skeletons.

What may bring down Rajoy is the fact that the Basque parties, whose support Rajoy had bought with subsidies even more obvious than those lavished by May on the DUP, cannot be seen to prop up Rajoy after his enthusiastic policy of clubbing Catalan grandmothers over the head and imprisoning Catalan leaders. Only the neo-con fake opposition Ciudadanos, originally sponsored and financed by the German BND security service to head off Podemos’ perceived threat to the Euro, is doing its utmost to maintain Merkel’s close ally in power.

If Rajoy finally pays a political price for his appalling persecution of the Catalans it will be a moment of joy, even though the Socialists who would replace him have themselves been shamefully playing to Spanish Nationalist opinion throughout the crisis. But the downfall of one of the nastiest and most vicious and corrupt politicians in power that Europe has seen in decades is nevertheless devoutly to be wished.


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  • certa certi

    Rajoy gone – Morte d’Arfur

    Arfur of course was fictional, whereas your Mr I.Leaf was the real thing. He had a showroom in Park Lane and a workshop where he bulletproofed his luxury motors prior to delivery to Moscow, Berlin and to Gulf Princes in Rabat. And he had better protection than Arfur, until one day he didn’t. Thatcher was just beginning her reign over you, not me.

    ‘Ian Leaf led a team of very young people (non above 26), who achieved remarkable success in manufacturing and selling these cars to the expanding Middle Eastern market…Rapport Ltd had the address Rapport House, Great Eastern Street, London EC2A 3EJ, UK and developed a wide range of different creations for the wealthy customers like many of the world’s royal families, governments and their agencies throughout East and West Africa and Europe or the Arab markets.’ [I like the ‘and their agencies’ bit]

    http://www.range-rover-classic.com/Home/land-rover-brochures/range-rover-specials/rapport-ltd—uk

    Any thoughts?

  • Sharp Ears

    The killing of a female medical volunteer in Gaza yesterday.

    ‘The volunteer was shot in the chest by the Israeli Defense Forces on Friday near the border fence east of Khan Younes, in the southern Gaza Strip, while she was helping wounded Palestinians.

    While the Israeli military has yet to comment on Najar’s death, an anonymous witness told Reuters that, at the time of the tragedy, the medical worker wore a white uniform, which clearly distinguished her from the rest of the Palestinian crowd taking part in the 10th weekly Great March of Return protests.

    Furthermore, the medical volunteer “raised her hands high in a clear way, but Israeli soldiers fired and she was hit in the chest,” the witness told Reuters.

    Najar became the latest victim of the Israeli crackdown on protesting Palestinians at the Gazan border. More than 100 protesters were injured by Israeli fire, including 40 by live bullets, directed at them by the IDF during the 10th Great March of Return rally. Another four paramedics were among those wounded while helping the injured.’

    ‘Deliberate war crime’: Palestinians decry murder of 21yo female paramedic at Gaza border
    https://www.rt.com/news/428521-gaza-israel-border-paramedic-killed/

    Perhaps Mesdames Pierce and Haley should visit the scene one Friday.

    • giyane

      Sharp Ears

      In terms of bullying power, Israel has all these in its pocket: the western countries, Australia, Canada USUK France etc who created Israel, + the Ahzab / Al Qaida / Muslim Brotherhood / Islamic State / Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States who have decided to collude with Israel in exchange for land and power in the Muslim world. I suspect that it has very strong links as well, under the radar with Iran, Russia through China, if only through banking services. It is apparently only Donald Trump, on the excuse of old age or perhaps the necessity of it, who pretends to ignore that all nation states are now seamlessly joined by trade.

      The Ahzab of Political Islam, including your pin-up Belhaj who has always been an agent of the triumvirate USUKIS, trade colonial merchandise such as oil and minerals for political power in Muslim countries like Libya, by means of intolerable, excessive , violent, brutal force. Immediately after the Libyan project finished and by pocketing Libya’s spare trillions which it wanted to use to oppose the Zionist banksting system, they started on the cherry plum of 40 years of Terror against the Muslim Peoples , terrorist acquisition of the Greater Israel, i.e. Iraq, Jordan and Syria.

      Enter Russia and China, only because in spite of having excellent relations with the West, they know that the terrorist Ahzab, by whom the Muslim lands and peoples have been destroyed for the Zionist project, will be used against them . Right now the West is extremely happy for the terrorists on the ground , but obviously not the mafia that run them like Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood , to be kettled in Idlib. This can only help to enrage the terrorists to turn their attention to fighting Russia and China when they are commanded to do so.

      in short, what is happening in Gaza is intended to be disgusting because it is an extremely cheap political stunt which tries to demonstrate that Israel is too small for both the Palestinians and the Israelis, and that since there is, or definitely will be , a power vacuum in Syria and Iraq, they might as well fill it, finger-in-mouth CUTE. The Zionists are the Hollywood script-writers who shipped long-bearded Israeli men through the main cities of their Turkish, Jordanian, Iraqi and Kurdish gewads/ pimps to populate Islamic State for their film cameras to terrorise the populace of the West.

      Israel will be sent forth as victorious crusaders to defeat the scarey terrorists and bring western values to the bonkers idiots of the Middle East. not not not. It’s all a Hollywood film set. Yet, like paedophiles , they like their abuse to be real, as it is more scarey to us push-overs of public opinion in the West. Believe me, any of the Muslim victims of this colonial war between the Islamists / colonists who have sold their souls to the devil and the Muslims, will be raised immediately to paradise.

    • Sharp Ears

      Razan al-Najjar was shot in the back by the cowardly thugs in the IDF

      Gaza medic killed by Israel was shot in the back
      ‘Israeli occupation forces shot dead a volunteer medic and injured dozens of people as they continued their indiscriminate attacks on Palestinians taking part in Great March of Return protests in Gaza for the 10th consecutive Friday.

      Razan Ashraf Abdul Qadir al-Najjar, 21, was helping treat and evacuate wounded protesters east of Khan Younis when she was fatally shot in the back on Friday evening.

      She was about 100 meters away from the boundary fence with Israel at the moment she was shot and was wearing clothing clearly identifying her as a medic, the human rights group Al Mezan stated, citing eyewitnesses.’

      2nd June 2018
      https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-medic-killed-israel-was-shot-back

      A war crime without any doubt.

      • Ian

        It’s beyond sadism. To deliberately kill a young woman, defenceless, trying to tend the injured, clearly identified as a medic, is the worst kind of fascist, inhumane sickness. The IDF knows what it is doing, has done it countless times, and is never held to account. They are so brazen because there will be no pushback, in israel or internationally. How can anyone not be filled with disgust and rage at these people, who will of course offer countless wheedling and irrelevant excuses and laughably claim they are under ‘threat’. Palestinians are unbelievably brave and resilient, given the utter indifference of most of the world to their dispossession and imprisonment.

    • Andyoldlabour

      Another disgusting murder and the world looks away – shackled by one country, the US.
      In the UN, the bully protects the bully, and the world looks away – shackled by one country, the US.
      How long does this have to continue?
      How long before the rest of the world confronts the bullies and curtails their power?

  • Tatyana

    I’m sorry for this off-topic, has anyone seen any news on OPCW mission in Douma, Syria? It’s June now, any results?

    • Tatyana

      (to apologize for off-topic ^^^) – Russian joke mocking people who justify their immoral actions for the sake of profit 🙂

      “On Saturday I was walking down the street and noticed a wallet on the ground. What to do? Shabbat, you can’t work on Saturday, you can’t even raise the wallet. And here I prayed to the Lord:
      – God help me! I’m so poor, and I could really use that wallet. Please, Allmighty, perform a miracle!
      And I looked around and there was a miracle! Saturday everywhere, but around the wallet – it was Friday!”

  • Sharp Ears

    The troughers, as I call them, are back on Monday. They have a very heavy day. Not. It will give them time to sort out their expenses and reply to their constituents! Mine does not reply to my very occasional e-mails.

    2.30 pm
    Oral questions Home Office (including Topical Questions)

    Legislation Ivory Bill – 2nd reading
    Programme Motion Ivory Bill – Michael Gove
    Money Resolution Ivory Bill – Mel Stride
    Adjournment Geothermal energy in Clackmannanshire – Luke Graham
    https://calendar.parliament.uk/calendar/Commons/All/2018/6/4/Daily

  • quasi_verbatim

    It is clear that the Spanish regime change, together with that of Italy, the trade wars, the Skripal trickery and Britain’s bad faith negotiation will empower the EU to impose the hardest of crashout Brexits pour encourager les autres.

    Resultant and consequent disruption and impoverishment may necessitate the imposition of a coalition Government of National Unity (GNU) by popular acclaim.

    With Corbyn playing Attlee to May’s Churchill (or some other Tory PM) there will be nothing on offer for the far-distant future but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

    • giyane

      “…. will empower the EU to impose the hardest of crashout Brexits pour encourager les autres ”
      or alternatively , as Craig cynically predicted before the Brexit referendum, the Tory wonks like the Walrus and carpenter, loudly blowing their noses into their handkerchiefs to amplify their crocodile tears, will tell us peeps that sadly we will have to stay inside the EU: You’ve had your say, now get lost!

    • Republicofscotland

      “With Corbyn playing Attlee to May’s Churchill (or some other Tory PM) there will be nothing on offer for the far-distant future but blood, toil, tears and sweat.”

      Yes, it looks like years of Quislingism at Westminster, too bad.

  • Hatuey

    The world is a big mess. As The West loses its grip and the balance of economic power shifts to the East, we can expect more Rajoys, more Trumps, more populism, more corruption, and more wars.

    The word Karma is very much misused these days but I think it’s appropriate in this case. We must bear in mind that the natural equilibrium of the last 2000 years put China and India at the top of the pecking order. European imperialism might have distorted that for a couple of centuries, but it didn’t destroy it.

    Here’s the real depressing news which you won’t hear on the BBC. The long term prognosis for workers and ordinary people in Europe and the US couldn’t be much bleaker. The truth is that in a world that trades freely, they simply can’t compete — in that scenario they starve.

    So, all this corruption, Trump, Brexit, etc., and these unending wars, they are for a very specific purpose. They’re designed to distort reality. In essence it represents desperation and cheating.

    Our politicians know the truth, that we are all fucked as long as we play by the rules. And that’s the Karma part, for they are rules that we imposed on others and put in place.

    But maybe if we tolerate all this crap and bile for a few decades it’s better than some of the other options and responses available. Maybe the big mess we find ourselves in today is actually the best of all possible worlds.

      • Hatuey

        Well, interesting link, but my Karma statement was in regards to the West as a whole. You see, in historical terms the most economically productive and vibrant region of the world has more or less always been the Asian sub continent. We have at least 2000 years of history to support that.

        Then European colonialism happened and we put this global trade system in place with rules etc., all done when Europe and its offshoots were on top. But the world is returning to its pre-1700 equilibrium and the West is in decline.

        The system that we built suits others more than it suits us today, hence the cheating and the wars. Decline will continue, deteriorate further, welfare and various other comforts will be chiselled away at, and we will end up back where we started with a comparative advantage in turnip farming and a few effeminate English pricks lording it over us.

        When you boil it right down and look at the distribution of natural resources, skills, manpower, ingenuity, and all the other key indicators, the West has virtually fuck all going for it. Even the gunpowder we used to subjugate the world during the blip of European hegemony was invented by the Chinese.

        It’s a done deal.

    • Republicofscotland

      “The world is a big mess.”

      Oh I’d say it’s about to get a whole lot messier, with Trump imposing new tariffs. China and the EU will now possibly become closer trading
      partners, as the economic battle hots up.

      Hopefully it’s just a matter of time before the Euro, or it could be the Yuan, becomes the prime trading currency, replacing the US prop, the dollar.

      Of course the US doesn’t have the largest military in the world for nothing, invasion after invasion on under false pretences, has kept the dollar on top for now, and the petrodollar is still up there though it’s steeped in blood.

      One wonder how the US would react other than in a military sense if their precious dollar is toppled, could we see the break up of the United States of America, every state for itself so to speak. Texas and California, have in the past made noises with regards to exiting.

      The break up of the Great Satan, would be good for South America, and those with brown skin in the ME, I’d even go as far as to say it would be good for the whole world.

      • Hatuey

        Currency exchange is a highly complicated area. Many in the US believe that it’s bad for the US economy to be the dominant global exchange currency.

        Consider the following, which isn’t entirely hypothetical;

        China goes through a boom and exports rise by say 10%. Because transactions are in US dollars, the countries on the receiving end of those imports need to buy dollars in order to pay Chinese exporters. This naturally results in a concomitant strengthening of the US dollar which, as any good student of economics will explain, effectively makes US exports more expensive.

        The above is the scenario is more or less as it exists today, however, pressures are also brought to bear on the US dollar when global trade generally, as a whole, increases, for the same reasons.

        If you were a US exporter, you’d feel that, it isn’t hypothetical, and looking at US balance of payments over the last few decades you see the net effect. This is why Bush devalued.

        • Republicofscotland

          Yeah good point, yet the U.S. dollar is the most popular. It makes up 64 percent of all known central bank foreign exchange reserves. That makes it the de facto global currency, even though it doesn’t hold an official global title. The Euro stood at around 20 percent circa 2017.

  • Sharp Ears

    When is May going to sack Grayling? The situation is much worse since Craig last wrote about railway privatisation.
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/01/renationalise-the-railways/
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-right-to-stand-in-first-class/

    Northern axes trains as RMT calls for transport secretary to resign
    The Guardian-9 hours ago
    “[Chris] Grayling should get out, the private companies he is propping up should be sacked and the vital rail services the nation depends on …

    Calls for Grayling to resign as Northern clock up more than 2000 …
    Infrastructure Intelligence-21 hours ago

    Northern confirms emergency rail timetable with more than 150 train …
    The Independent-14 hours ago

    Exhaustion, stress, panic attacks and people quitting their jobs – the …
    Manchester Evening News-16 hours ago

    Transport Secretary should step down over Northern Rail chaos says …
    About Manchester (press release) (blog)-21 hours ago

    Craig is going to Dumfries today. Hope the train comes or are Scottish trains any better than the rest.

    Not by the sounds of it!
    ‘Having an Indy march in Dumfries rams home how the Union has left Scotland underdeveloped and severely lacking in infrastructure. 3.5 hours Edinburgh to Dumfries by train. It’s 70 miles. Average journey speed 20mph.’
    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1002654975409971206

    • Hatuey

      It’s not that simple though. Most English trains run at a loss. If you nationalise the whole thing, it’s tantamoiunt to forcing taxpayers to subsidise the commuters in England. I’m against that, just as I’m against HS2 and for the same reasons.

      Scotland is different; if you look at the demographics and spread of the population, you’ll see that.

      • giyane

        I hope the diesel trains are made to pass the same diesel emissions tests as came into force in May for everybody else.

        • Anon1

          Yes it’s like the rich parts of Spain wanting to walk away because they’re tired of propping up the poorer parts.

        • Hatuey

          Please explain why taxpayers all over the U.K. should subsidise greedy, selfish commuters who choose to work in London?

          That’s not society, it’s a rip off. And it’s destroying societies. London has been over-heating for decades while the rest of the U.K. is in economic decline. Now we’ve to pay for it again with HS2.

          Senseless, self-fulfilling, lazy, crap.

          • glenn_nl

            Commuting is part of the cost of society, Hatuey, and can be done much more efficiently through mass transport.

            You should spend some time on the continent, where cheap, efficient mass public transport works rather well. Then you’d stand at least some chance of knowing what you’re talking about.

          • Hatuey

            Glenn, on the continent nearly all countries have industrial policy that is geared towards regional development and spreading the wealth so that instead of one city eating up all the resources you’d have investment that helped balance things out.

            The Netherlands and Germans are particularly good at this. It doesn’t take much time and brains to figure out that it’s in everybody’s interests to decentralise an economy.

            In the U.K. the opposite has happened. 90% of the population are sitting in economically deprived areas and are expected to pay to sustain this London bubble. Trains are an important part of that.

            And, of course, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy that allows people like Boris to say a pound spent in London is better for the U.K. as a whole than a pound spent in Strathclyde. Basically that amounts to saying fuck the people of Strathclyde, no matter how you cut it.

            Well, no. Fuck the people of London. Pay for your own fucking trains. And if you are in Milton fucking Keynes and you work out you can make 10 grand a year more doing the same shit in London, well fuck you as well.

            The rest of us have to cough up and applaud the bustling beauty of our great capital London. Yeah right. Fuck London, fuck Buckingham palace, fuck HS2, fuck Boris Johnson, and fuck you.

          • glenn_nl

            Hatuey, I owe you a bit of an apology, for not reading correctly that you were talking about public transport policy in London rather than the country as a whole.

            Public transport in London is vastly cheaper than anywhere else in Britain, it appears that in the “rural areas” (anywhere outside London), buses and trains are more expensive than anything else found in Europe. Perhaps the world.

            Again, I thought you were having a knock at government subsidies to public transport in general. Completely agree with you about London.

      • J Galt

        Which is why Scotland’s Trains should be run in Scotland by a not for profit outfit along the lines that is being actively discussed at present. Remember the actual “Railways” are already nationalised as Network Rail is a government (London) department.

        It appears that Abellio can be turfed out quite legally as their performance has been woeful.

        Oh and as for the infrastructure – get the Chinese in!

        • Republicofscotland

          CalMac, look game for a go, I think the earliest Humza Yousef could take them public is 2020.

          CalMac, is owned by the S&G.

      • Republicofscotland

        “It’s not that simple though. Most English trains run at a loss. If you nationalise the whole thing, it’s tantamoiunt to forcing taxpayers to subsidise the commuters in England.”

        Hang on a sec, didn’t East Coast trains run under public ownership a few years back, and did it not make profit, before it was fudged back into some greedy private sectors control, and now its, not as reliable as it was under public control.

        • glenn_nl

          It doesn’t matter if it makes a loss, as long as it benefits the country. What right-wingers cannot stand is the idea of a public good without personal profit for a few rich individuals. Screw the country, and screw the commuters – as long as profit is there for the investor class.

          Although your point is correct, it’s important not to fall into the right-wing framing of an argument, where the only concerns should be a simple measure of profit or loss. As ever, it’s a bit more complicated than that.

          • Republicofscotland

            I’d say making a profit matters more in the public sector than the private sector, as it’s taxpayer funded. However my point is, that trains can be run by the public sector properly and make profit into the bargain.

            I’m not against capitalism, where it’s applied properly. However I feel the large core industries, energy, trains etc, should remain under public control, if run properly.

      • Salford Lad

        Trains and bus transport are a social necessity, Privatisation entails an operating profit. Nationalisation is not profit driven but social service providers Should subsidies be required for remote underused services under Nationalistion ,so be it.

        • Republicofscotland

          “Nationalisation is not profit ”

          I think it should run to make a profit, just not obscene profits, afterall the profits can be mostly reinvested, especially with no fat cat shareholders to placate, does have its benefits.

      • SA

        Hatuey
        This is a gross oversimplification. There are many things to be factored here. Despite running at a loss, these companies are still popular with investors. Why? They are still subsidised by the taxpayers, they still produce profits for shareholders, they still provide inflated salaries for thier CEOs, they still generate a lot of money for the city for organising all the bidding process. They also depend heavily on so much existing infrastructure and they are safe investments as they are ‘too big’ to fail and will be renationalised, or at least thier loss will be, if they fail.
        So privatisation of the railways is a big sham, in fact it is a scam and even if the net result of renationalisation still means a taxpayer subsidy, at least it will be a subsidy for the public good and not for profits to the rich.

        • Skyblaze

          Thanks for pointing this out. It seems that Hatuey cannot recall Craigs moaning article about standing on trains a few weeks ago

        • Hatuey

          Actually, SA, I agree it’s a sham. That’s why I’m against subsidising their profits.

          People in here always speak from some crude ideological perspective. I don’t. I’m against giving taxpayers money to rich people.

          If we are going to be a country that gives bungs to shareholders and industrialists, well I’m sorry but I’m against that. I have a long list of things I’d prefer to see my money used on.

          As for Scotland, I think we have done enough to make life artificially pleasant for the few who choose to live on the extremities. It was never easy to scrape a living in th Highlands and Islands, why are we somehow expected to make it easy now?

          The truth is that transport links have never been so good for most people who live north of say Stirling. It was the mongrels in the central belt that so many up north look down their noses at who paid for those bridges and ferries. Yes, no problem, any time.

          I wish th snp would decentralise ever thing and let them pay their own way.

  • bj

    Philip Cross, if I may for a moment.

    Is anyone familiar with the WhoColor extension for Firefox?
    It used to display a neat list of contributors to a Wikipedia page, in a pane to the right. For instance, on the page of George Galloway, the list would be topped by the name ‘Philip Cross’.

    Since a couple of days, I have noticed that said pane does not list the names of the editors anymore, but what looks to be an UID.

    Note that I never had to be logged in to be able to see the names. I don’t have a WP account, so I can’t say if that might or might not be a prerequisite now.

    I think it’s probably a failure of the extension, but it might also be a new WP policy. I presently see no opportunity to investigate, but do others see this?

    • bj

      Looking at several pages’ history, my impression is that Philip Cross has been very much less active lately.

      • glenn_nl

        I wonder why! Bad press, perhaps? Game rumbled, and an urgent rethink of such a poorly undertaken project? Sheesh, if they had 30 accounts to run through at random, instead of everyone using the same account, it might have been harder to spot.

  • Sharp Ears

    David Milliband – a liar and hypocrite of massive proportion, especially regarding Syria – BBC Radio 4 Today this morning. He was speaking from the Hay Festival.

    BLiar’s war on Iraq and Cameron’s war on Libya are forgotten. Reminder. Miliband D was Brown’s Foreign Secretary -2007-10
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b4y8c4#play 1.33 hours in

    Hay festival – The BBC has a tent! WTF. How much has that cost? Entertaining and interviewing all the luvvies and war criminals
    https://www.hayfestival.com/programme-quick-view.aspx

    • Doug Scorgie

      I still believe D Miliband is biding his time to come along at an opportune moment to ‘save’ the country from that awful man Corbyn.

      • Anon1

        No it’s Corbyn not being able to achieve anything against the weakest govt in history that’ll do that

        • glenn_nl

          That’ll be the government you championed, voted for, and claimed that you’d be drinking the tears of socialists or some-such gloating, when your Strong and Stable May achieved a tremendous victory?

          This – I recall your saying – would put Corbyn firmly in his place, shut socialists up for good as Labour took its worst drubbing ever, and would have Corbyn tossed aside in short order.

          Can’t have it both ways, although the right-wing always tries (and whines like hell about it too).

          • Anon1

            I didn’t vote Tory. I didn’t vote in that election. Last time you were accusing me of voting for UKIP, but UKIP didn’t even field a candidate in my constituency.

            Yes like everyone else I overestimated the margin of defeat for Labour. But it was a defeat nonetheless. And we’re well past peak Corbyn now. The pinnacle of his achievements was to lose to the Tories under T. May and then linger on like an embarrasing smell.

          • glenn_nl

            ‘Strewth, I hardly even saw your hands move there, while you shifted all the positions of the discussion.

            Everything you were positively crowing about up until the election turned out to be completely wrong. But now you’re claiming that you saw what you wanted to see all along.

            Now you’re saying that you didn’t bother voting in the general election, even though you claimed to have joined the Labour party just to give a vote to Corbyn (who you cackled about crashing the party in the upcoming election)?

            You really ought to sit down for a bit, mate, and think about how you behave. You apparently go to meetings of people you don’t like, join parties you don’t like and then fail to vote at all? Unbelievable. Seriously.

  • bj

    As Naily Hick vetoed another UNSC resolution (seeking international protection to the Palestinians), the IDF –the “most moral army in the world” (an infantile wording of a ludicrous lie)– murdered a female paramedic in Gaza.

    • Republicofscotland

      I thought it was only Russia that vetoed UNSC resolutions, well according to the western media it is.

  • Anon1

    Stand down everyone, panic over! A Malian migrant has rescued someone who was about to fall off a building and die.

    By this single act of heroism it has been shown that mass-immigration is a wonderful and beneficial thing. Islam is a religion of peace. Illegal immigrants are saints. And any opposition to inviting the entire third world to settle in your country is literally to want to see toddlers fall off buildings.

    © The Entire Media

    • bj

      Considering the adage ‘the medium is the message’, some of that heroism rubs off on the media reporting the very event.

      “Look, we’re all good guys”, isn’t our world the best of all possible worlds.

    • Republicofscotland

      I suppose you’d still be huge magnanimous pr*ck if it were your kid he saved.

    • glenn_nl

      So let me get this straight – if any black/ Muslim/ gay etc. etc. person does something notably bad, it’s obviously an example of how bad ALL of them are, and collective punishment is the only answer.

      On the other hand, if a black/ Muslim/ gay etc. etc. person does something notably good, then the media has gone mad – lots of sarcasm is called for, and we ought to remember how bad they are all in reality.

      Got it.

      • Anon1

        No the media and all the left had a collective circle jerk because he was an African Muslim migrant and placed him up on a pedestal to represent how wonderful migrants are and how we should all joyously accept millions more of these wonderful people who come here to save our children from falling off buildings.

        Had he done something like blow himself up or start grooming the local girls then that would be not representative of his religious/cultural background in any way whatsoever and to say so would be deeply racist.

        • glenn_nl

          Really – they were saying that? Give me one example. Just one example of the media stating that we should joyously accept millions more. Come on, put up for once. Otherwise, I’m going to conclude you make stuff up with a rather racist angle to it.

        • SA

          So it is clear you hate ‘the left’. Question is how right are you? Far right? Seems so from your writing.

    • Skyblaze

      As if there are no immigration controls at all….take your silliness elsewhere

  • Vivian O'Blivion

    As Westminster “agonises” on whether various Russian oligarchs are fit and proper for entry into the UK, worth remembering that Bashar al Assad’s uncle Rifat lives in London.
    On assisting his brother Hafaz to the top job in the early 70’s, Rifat formed the Syrian Defence Brigades (think Baath party ultra loyal National Guard).
    In 1982 the Muslim Brotherhood staged an uprising in the clerical university city of Hama. Rather than put the uprising down by house to house fighting with small arms, Rifat surrounded the city with tanks and heavy artillery and levelled large portions of it with its civilian population in situ. Civilian fatalities in the range 10 to 40 thousand. That earned him the title “butcher of Hama”.
    Anyways, after a plot line worthy of a 1980’s American soap opera, Rifat is permanently exiled in 1998. Has divided his time since then moving around a massive property portfolio in England, France and Spain. Properties in England; £5 M in Mayfair, £16 M in Mayfair (recently sold) and £4 M in Leatherhead.
    Looks like his seamless move from Russia aligned Syria to the west is tied to his links to KSA. He had a sister in law married to King Abdullah.
    Looks like he was being held in reserve as a western contingency but was ditched as a busted flush after the Arab spring (properties in France and Spain confiscated in 2013).
    Sure, the Russian oligarchs may have had the odd rival shot dead in a Moscow street or tied up with barbed wire in the boot of a burning car (a delightful innovation from the aluminium wars), but they can’t lay claim to 40,000 civilians.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170918-uk-freezes-rifaat-al-assads-assets/

    • Sharp Ears

      What brought on that demonization of the Assad family. How many million innocent civilians has this country killed in its wars in the ME?

      • Vivian O'Blivion

        Hardly demonisation of the family. When Rifat launched the attempted coup against Hafaz, the pretext was that the council Hafaz installed to run the country while he was convalescing from a heart attack was entirely Sunni. That and the estimated £300 M he pinched from the state before he was finally exiled. Sounds like a rong un to me. If anything it reflects well on the al Assads and extremely badly on a country that would harbour someone with Rifat’s history as long as they have a few hundred mill in the bank.

  • Republicofscotland

    Well it looks like there were around 15 unionists waving upside down Union Jacks today in Dumfries a Tory stronghold, as thousands of independence marchers walked through the town.

    I’m under the impression that displaying a upside down Union Jack flag is a sign of distress, and this dissolving union, is certainly in a state of distress.

    • zoot

      hardly a novel phenomenon. every big private firm in the us has had a diversity officer since at least the millennium. most likely the uk too.

      the actual survival of free healthcare in the uk would seem a matter more worth getting bent out of shape about from what i’ve been reading.

      • Anon1

        Yes a lot more to worry about. An outdated model, health tourism, vast waste of resources, unnecessary treatments and an inability to make even the slightest reform without shrieks of “US STYLE HEALTH SYSTEM!!” stifling any form of logical progress.

        We really don’t need all these equality and diversity leaders on top of all that, do we?

          • Skyblaze

            No he’s a disgruntled young white male who suddenly thinks there’s some white genocide happening just because racism is being addressed

        • JOML

          Health tourism? Yes, I know about that – if you have a brain tumour, you need to visit Germany for treatment, If only the UK could provide health care for all aspects of their population’s needs.

    • Ian

      It must be hard work for you, scouring the media in order to profess how outraged you are. Boring for everybody else, though.

          • glenn_nl

            Stormfront probably has a “fair usage” policy; there’ll be a limit to the number of posts a single user makes in a day. This site acts as an overflow for Anon1.

            He provides a good example though, of the whining the right always does. This sense of grievance, constant victimhood, the outrage that entitlement for being white and male is being eroded.

          • Anon1

            Given some of the views expressed about J*₩s here (you see, the word itself has to be moderated because of all the anti-Semitism) it’s probably not me who ought to be on Stormfront, Glenn.

            But whatever. You’re a Nazi if you think that equality and diversity managers represent a waste of money for the cash-strapped NHS. Got it.

          • Republicofscotland

            Jeez oh, the Islamaphobe, is attempting to pigeon hole other commentors.

      • Anon1

        You can certainly see the attraction. £41k taxpayer’s money for a 30hr week plus all the benefits, holidays, pension entitlements, sick leave, etc. Can’t even get rid of you because it’s public sector.

        But no I’ll carry on in my ‘privileged’ job. Isn’t that right Glenn? Privileged and entitled.

        • zoot

          in light of what you post on here, i’m guessing the last thing you are is a racist. the very last thing.

          • Anon1

            You have to wonder what the left would do if they actually had to formulate an argument rather than cry racism the whole time.

  • Sharp Ears

    Jeremy Thorpe/Norman Scott – A Very English Scandal

    Ian Trethowan was the DG of the BBC who ordered the Panorama report on the affair to be destroyed, following Thorpe’s acquittal in the case of attempted murder of Norman Scott.

    Sir James Ian Raley Trethowan, 1922-1990
    Director-General 1977-1982
    Trethowan left school aged 16 to join the Daily Sketch as an office boy. He became a print journalist then a political broadcaster for ITN. He joined the BBC in 1963 as a parliamentary commentator, fronting parliamentary magazine programme Gallery. He was the first Managing Director of Radio in the new era of Radios 1-4 in 1967. He took over as Director-General in 1977, a time of shrinking Licence Fee income and criticism from the Government and the Annan Report. He was committed to political impartiality despite being a member of the Conservative Party and defended ITV’s controversial Death on a Rock broadcast. He was described as an intelligent, warm and genial man. He survived a heart attack in 1979 and stayed in office until he was 60. Afterwards, he served on the board of many organisations, including Thames Television and the British Council. He died of motor neurone disease.’

    Tom Mangold kept a copy of the Panorama report.. It is being shown on BBC Four tomorrow night at 10pm following the concluding part of A Very English Scandal on BBC1 at 9pm. Described as ‘edited and updated’!!

  • Sharp Ears

    Still time to head down to the Hay Festival to hear Gordon Brown!. It’s the final event at this festival.

    Event 441
    Gordon Brown – Our Times
    Sunday 3 June 2018, 4pm Venue: Tata Tent
    The former Chancellor and Prime Minister brings an extraordinary amount of experience to bear in considering the political moment, in a wide-ranging conversation about politics and hope. His memoir My Life, Our Times was published last year.
    Price: £8.00
    https://www.hayfestival.com/m-127-hay-festival-2018.aspx?pagenum=33

    All the luvvies and trendies are there.

  • Anon1

    Talking about racism, one for Glenn here. The racist Donald Trump has proven how racist he is as black unemployment in the US falls to the lowest levels ever seen.

    Unlike the Democrats who use minorities like slaves on a plantation to be kept in poverty and relied upon for votes, constantly patronized and looked upon as helpless little creatures who can’t advance themselves without the help of virtue signalling white leftists like Glenn, ‘literal Hitler’ Donald Trump is actually creating the employment conditions to raise blacks out of poverty.

    • glenn_nl

      Anon1: Could you state the policies Trump has taken, which has created the low unemployment among blacks that you claim?

      It would be good to give Trump proper credit after all, so I’d appreciate your explaining how exactly he achieved this goal.

      If you’re feeling talkative, what other policies of Trump’s do you approve of?

      • Republicofscotland

        Two outcomes.

        Anon1 is frantically scouring the web for info on his claim, though bj-probably hit the nail on the head.

        Or Anon1, will pack up for the night, leaving us all hanging on.

        My money’s on bj’s explaination. Prison rates in the US are the world’s highest, at 724 people per 100,000.

      • Loony

        Black unemployment in the US has fallen for the same reasons that white unemployment and Hispanic unemployment has fallen.

        Unemployment has fallen because Trump is making good on his promise to Make America Great Again. Tax reforms have repatriated vast amounts of money. Businesses are willing to invest as a consequence of tax reform and confidence that Trump will not sell their jobs to the great mercantile powers.

        Limiting immigration will act to halt the crushing of real wages (in a continual downward spiral since 1979) and assist the US population to get off its knees. Simultaneously Trump is attacking the dependency and victim culture – just as Muhammed Ali tried to do. Trump is creating the conditions whereby all people can develop their talents and improve their self confidence and self image.

        Communist/Anarchist and the kleptocratic class are coming under remorseless pressure. This ranges from public figures such as Comey through to the rolling up of child trafficking rings.

        Whilst the US deep state continues to frustrate Trump to the maximum extent possible, progress is being made. Trump is not interested fighting in Syria or North Korea. He is interested in fronting up to the Germans and the Chinese. He likes trade wars for the simple reason that he believes that the US can win them and that its population can reap tangible benefits, See how fat the Chinese backtracked on their proposed Sorghum tariffs – that is because the US holds all the cards.

        • bj

          Communist/Anarchist and the kleptocratic class are coming under remorseless pressure. This ranges from public figures such as Comey through to the rolling up of child trafficking rings

          This juxtaposition centered around the dot is priceless.

          Incidentally, you forgot the precious bodily fluids.

          • Loony

            forgive me, but I am confused.

            Are you saying that you are in favor of child trafficking? If so, why would that be?

            Are you saying that senior law enforcement officers should be free to lie and dissemble especially when such lies are calculated to escalate tensions with the nuclear armed power that is Russia?

            Or perhaps your argument is that you detest Trump so much that you are prepared to sacrifice as many children as is necessary in order to maintain your own sense of moral purity.

            If you are not saying any of these things then I am unable to discern any point to your comment at all.

        • glenn_nl

          Most of the corporate tax cuts have gone into buying back shares, and executive bonuses – kindly show example of new hiring because of tax cuts, instead of just claiming same.

          There are plenty of examples of lack of investment due to uncertainty caused by the trade wars Trump is perpetrating. Don’t tell me that there’s huge confidence and investment as a result, it simply is not true.

          Are you seriously suggesting that Comey – a registered Republican – is a communist?

          ICE terrorising the immigrant community might be very entertaining to the likes of you, but can hardly count as a massive boost to existing black employment opportunities.

          The “deep state” indeed – you really ought to stop watching Alex Jones – that stuff rots the brain (despite the supplements he sells and you no doubt eagerly buy).

          Thanks for trying to fill in for Anon1, I’m sure he’s very grateful, but the question remains unanswered. 3/10 for effort, though.

          • Loony

            Whilst you should note that I am not your unpaid research assistant, here are some links that support my points

            https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/01/apple-accelerates-us-investment-and-job-creation/

            The above refers to an Apple program to create 20,000 jobs in the US and contribute £350 billion to the US economy. Something of a change to inverting in China and Chinese jobs.

            Next up we have a list of significant companies who are raising wages and passing on some of the tax cuts benefits to its employees. All good news for people and a drastic change from the almost 40 years of unbroken wage suppression

            https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/12/20/handful-companies-promise-bonuses-pay-raises/971199001/

            If you do your own research you will discover that Trump is deporting fewer illegal immigrants than Obama. What has happened is that he has changed the tone of the conversation, so not much terrorizing going on at all. It is too obvious for words that if you decrease the supply of something (unskilled labor) then the price for that somnething (unskilled labor) will rise. Only a communist could argue with that – so I have no doubt you will.

          • bj

            @Loony

            While studying your claims, I faltered when coming across:

            https://web.archive.org/web/20180523194853/http://fortune.com/2017/12/22/att-bonuses-could-save-millions/
            (using the Wayback Machine, because I had no luck accessing the Fortune site directly)

            But I digress.
            After just barely staying upright, I then stumbled and fell rather nasty on this:

            https://eu.indystar.com/story/money/2018/01/02/t-touting-bonuses-and-investment-fueled/992690001/

            Your comments, please.

          • glenn_nl

            Loony: I fully acknowledge you’re not there to research my points – I was asking you to substantiate your own. Nice try at deflecting the burden of proof, thought.

            Sure, you can say this or that company is making promises to hire, that’s just one side of the story. There are plenty of others, like this:

            “This Factory Was Ready to Expand. Then Came the Trump Trade Wars.”
            https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/us/politics/trump-trade.html

            The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Try again.

            The other bone you threw, that “a handful” of companies have made promises, does not come anywhere near the nonsense you’re peddling about some great American revival fueled by Trump’s massive tax cuts for the rich.

            I like the way you changed your very own reference’s description of “a handful of companies” to “a list of significant companies”!

            Obviously, you’re good at parroting right wing talking points, but not so great on giving real facts and evidence for your assertions. I suppose you think Brownback has made Kentucky just the most happening place on earth, thanks to his policies along the same lines?

            *
            You’re denying that ICE are terrorising immigrants? Wow. We’ll have to discuss that on another day.

            Since you’ve asserted that James Comey is a communist, and concluded I must be one as well, I have a good understanding of your rationality on the subject. Are you an old mate of McCarthy yourself, or just a fan?

        • Skyblaze

          Companies are not investing in workers. Where did you pick that nonsense from?

  • shugsrug

    To seek to harm others you disagree with, whatever the argument that you disagree with, is not really arguing, but just straight forward harming. Now if that is your intention, then that says very much about you, Anon1. Denigration of your opponent does nothing for you. If you can not see that, well tough.

  • Tom

    Arthur Daley. Wow, I haven’t heard that name for years. I remember watching Minder years ago (CBC Canada). One episode always stuck with me. It was where Arthur faked his own death to avoid a confrontation with someone he “dittled”. Which brings up the fake death of Arkady Babchenko. At least Minder was funny about faking a death with a tombstone reading “He dealt, he dittled he died”. The Ukraine regime is incapable of even doing comedy well. Well Arthur had a good saying for friends (countries) in need. A friend (Ukraine) in need is a pest. Wish my government would heed that advice!

  • Earl of Dumfries

    So I was on the Bus at 9.30 Am this morning Took my Palestine Flag..Got a New pole for it yesterday

    I knew that the Execution of The 20 year old girl Medic would break here toaday.

    So Off I went.. What Mission to get To Dumfries..

    I find that I must have been rather Close to Craig on the March.. And there must have been a dozen Palestine Flags Including my own Lofted High

    About 15.000 turned out.. Good numbers Considering Location..

    anyway Craig Again was in Fine Form –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GKgRIgyxPk&feature=youtu.be

    • bj

      Interesting video.
      I wonder –after mentioning the Duke and Arabs sheiks– who the Dutch businessmen are Craig refers to.

      • fedup

        Interestingly search brings it up but then the video seems to have vanished.

        Freedom to be censored are added to our other freedoms.

  • N_

    @bj – Thanks for the reference to Gorgeous George’s comments on Roman Abramovich. Galloway and his guest seem ready to condemn mafia bosses in the abstract, and to be negative about Yeltsin, who retired from office 19 years ago – and even to say something about “offshore” because that’s been safe now for a few years so long as you don’t go too far – but not to say a word against actual concrete named mafia bosses such as the one that owns Chelsea football club.

  • Hieroglyph

    The likeness between that bent crook and Arfur Daley is indeed uncanny. I wonder if anyone has already noticed this?

    Anyhow, I have a 8-1-1 rule these days. It’s not exact, but it’s useful. Out of 10 politicians, I divide them thus. 8 are just in it for the money. Some will just rort expenses, some will massive crooks, but the motive is the same. 1 will be genuine, and well-meaning, and hard-working and all that stuff, and will be regarded as a rube by the rest. The other 1? I’m afraid he\she has a psychological disorder to be found on the DSM list, usually psychopathy, but sociopathy and narcissism will also feature heavily.

    This is why the main function of Western parliaments is to stifle their citizens, and generally work to the hidden-agenda. Today this agenda appears to be globalism, and not the nice kind either. But the agenda can vary, depending on the whims of the people who actually run the show. Top tip: parliament is not really in charge, ever.

  • certa certi

    re Catalonia. There are two referendums forthcoming on Independence, New Caledonia later this year and Bougainville next year. Both processes have taken decades, to give their divided populations time to reconcile. So should Catalonia. Madrid and Catalonia should study the Noumea Accord.

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/AILR/2002/17.html

    • Sharp Ears

      Whereas there is another dire offering on Marr this morning.

      03/06/2018
      Home secretary Sajid Javid MP
      Labour MP Stella Creasy,
      Composer Andrew Lloyd Webber
      Actor Michelle Keegan.

      Reviewing the newspapers are The Sun columnist Jane Moore and associate editor of the Daily Mirror Kevin Maguire.

      Avoid. Avoid. Same old. Same old.

  • quasi_verbatim

    The King, a true conservative, is agin’ the Cataloonies.

    The Reign in Spain falls mainly on the Insane and if Scots are looking for a new Royal House who better than the Bourbons?

    • lysias

      The king in Spanish history whom Catalans most hate is Philip V, who abolished the traditional rights of Catalonia in 1714. When Juan Carlos asked a Catalan what name he should give his son, the leader told him any name but Philip. Whereupon Juan Carlos chose Philip.

  • Hatuey

    I know people who have chosen to live in the most inhospitable places up north and in the islands. These are undoubtedly uniquely beautiful places and each has unique challenges for those who live in them.

    If these people have one thing in common, it’s the view that the “mongrel scum” who live in the central belt, those who live in run of the mill houses and places, somehow owe them money and need to pay towards subsidising life in the Highlands and Islands.

    I know, we are always supposed to discuss this in the context of preserving communities; imagine a solitary chanter echoing in the background as the mist clears and our wallets come into clear view. Ahhhh our beautiful culture…

    I’m sorry, but fuck all that. My life and the lives of people who queue at food banks are every bit as important to me. And frankly I’m sick of paying for roads, railways, ferries, bridges, and Gaelic schools for a bunch of people who in my experience think they are superior to me.

    When did people in these places decide that the rest of us were to pay for their lifestyles? I literally know people who buy sheep for 50 pence a pop then claim all sorts of subsidies for banging them up in a field. Has anyone checked out the price of a couple of lamb chops recently?

    Is there anything in the lives of people in the Highlands and Islands that my money isn’t paying for? Seriously, name one aspect of life up there that isn’t subsidised. One? A single one thing?

    Total rip off.

    • Ian

      You’ve got a real chip on your shoulder – about an imaginary situation, conjured up from some scraps of information you probably heard down the pub or gleaned from your favourite tabloid. How sad.

      • Republicofscotland

        Agreed Ian, some deep psychological grievances going on there. He/she probably read some magazine about the Highlands whilst at the dentist, in some distant land. ?

  • john young

    Arlene Foster leader of the DUP Mays “crutch” leading an Orange Order walk in Cowdwnbeath,welcome to Scotland all those that think this country is progressive.

      • Republicofscotland

        All from the unionist side I might add, those who want Scotland to be independent frown upon the O/O’s sectarian marches.

        Foster would do well to sort out the bloody mess in Stormont, rather than marching with the loyalists (Up to our knees in feninan blood) foot soldiers.

        I suppose when independence is achieved with a bit of luck the O/O foot soldiers will head elsewhere, Scotland not being part of the union and all that.

    • reel guid

      And what’s the brilliant solution from you two about this? More British unionism to save Scotland from British unionism.

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