The Silence of the Whores 858


The mainstream media are making almost no effort today to fit Charlie Rowley’s account of his poisoning into the already ludicrous conspiracy theory being peddled by the government and intelligence agencies.

ITV News gamely inserted the phrase “poisoned by a Russian nerve agent” into their exclusive interview with Charlie Rowley, an interview in which they managed to ask no penetrating questions whatsoever, and of which they only broadcast heavily edited parts. Their own website contains this comment by their journalist Rupert Evelyn:

He said it was unopened, the box it was in was sealed, and that they had to use a knife in order to cut through it.

“That raises the question: if it wasn’t used, is this the only Novichok that exists in this city? And was it the same Novichok used to attack Sergei and Yulia Skripal?

But the information about opening the packet with a knife is not in the linked interview. What Rowley does say in the interview is that the box was still sealed in its cellophane. Presumably it was the cellophane he slit open with a knife.

So how can this fit in to the official government account? Presumably the claim is that Russian agents secretly visited the Skripal house, sprayed novichok on the door handle from this perfume bottle, and then, at an unknown location, disassembled the nozzle from the bottle (Mr Rowley said he had to insert it), then repackaged and re-cellophaned the bottle prior to simply leaving it to be discovered somewhere – presumably somewhere indoors as it still looked new – by Mr Rowley four months later. However it had not been found by anyone else in the interim four months of police, military and security service search.

Frankly, the case for this being the bottle allegedly used to coat the Skripals’ door handle looks wildly improbable. But then the entire government story already looked wildly improbable anyway – to the extent that I literally do not know a single person, even among my more right wing family and friends, who believes it. The reaction of the media, who had shamelessly been promoting the entirely evidence free “the Russians did it” narrative, to Mr Rowley’s extremely awkward piece of news has been to shove it as far as possible down the news agenda and make no real effort to reconcile it.

By his own account, Mr Rowley is not a reliable witness, his memory affected by the “Novichok”. It is not unreasonable to conjecture there may also be other reasons why he is vague about where and how he came into possession of this package of perfume.

The perfume bottle is now in the hands of the Police. Is it not rather strange that they have not published photos of it, to see if it jogs the memory of a member of the public who saw it somewhere in the last four months, or saw somebody with it? The “perpetrators” know what it looks like and already know the police have it, so that would not give away any dangerous information. You might believe the lockdown of the story and control of the narrative is more important to the authorities than solving the crime, which we should not forget is now murder.


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  • CanSpeccy

    That the government account is ludicrous indicates, as I have discussed here, a new approach in the deployment of state terror for the control of public opinion. Instead of some bullshit 19-Muslim-high-jackers-type cover story that can be subjected to independent scrutiny and debunking, the aim now is to spew clouds of compete rubbish, like chaff from a military helicopter dodging enemy radar. The result is a totally inexplicable atrocity, which is a lot scarier than a crime committed by an identified enemy.

  • Sharp Ears

    Thanks. THE MSM are being very circumspect.

    Also O/T. In Reprieve’s most recent e-mail in which they ask for donations, they write:

    ‘Just last week, Saudi Arabia executed seven people in just one day – a stark reminder of what we’re up against…..’

    They don’t describe the method of execution. Too horrific I assume. A public stoning or beheading?

    Guantanamo has been open for 16 years. Prisoners are still being held there and Trump intends to keep it open.

    https://reprieve.org.uk/

    • call me cynical but....

      Gitmo. Was that not the place Obama closed down? At least I assume he did as he said he would in his election campaign. Can anybody clarity?

    • laguerre

      Saudi methods of execution are well known, they don’t need detailing. At least, no-one’s been executed at Gitmo.

      • call me cynical but....

        ok cool. Thanks for clarifying as I previously thought Gitmo was a horrible place hated by Liberals.

      • Borncynical

        “At least no one’s been executed at Gitmo” – arguable statement. Several questionable suicides.

  • sc

    With a story involving secret services you often get no information or a very unbelievable story, and you can’t do anything about it. Till the files are opened in 30 years if they ever are. The difference with this one is it’s being used to manipulate the public … us … and whip up anti Russian feeling and increase diplomatic tension. So I think difficult though it is to get any sense from it, we are reasonable to ask questions, especially since few in the press are doing that.

    I have wondered whether it’s something some organisation preferred not to do, and they are doing it badly to undermine it. But probably not.

  • MI 666

    When a PM and FS take up highly risky lead roles in a chorus of obvious lies, there must be something big to hide. CCTVs may have caught everything but it would incriminate the government Porton Down shenanigans?? Did the Russians nip a putin assassination plot in the bud? What will their revenge be?

  • Stevie B

    Why does there have to be only one bottle? The Skripals may have been poisoned using a separate bottle/source. Maybe this one was a backup? Who knows.

    • Chris Abbott

      A bad bottle, a good bottle. A switch. That’s what I’d have done. But actually it was the Ukrainians. Cui bono.

    • Walter Cullinane

      If the Russians were involved in trying to get rid of the Skripals why go to all the trouble with this nerve agent. Then to go and make a ball’s of it leaving all the evidence at the scene. Why not just shoot them? I don’t think we should swallow the line were being given

  • Doodlebug

    Oh Charlie, Charlie….

    Interviewer: “Were you up and about quickly?”
    Charlie Rowley: “Yeah, within a week I believe I was feeling more human again.”

    “When the police came round…when I came round weeks after, and the police mentioned a bottle they’d found in the flat”

    Interviewer: “How aware are you of what’s been going on?”
    Charlie Rowley: “I’ve only been conscious within the last week or so.”

    It must have been in-between bouts of unconsciousness that he provided his brother with all those details about Dawn’s face and hands, the broken bottle and the smell of ammonia.

    • Brendan

      “… when I came round weeks after, and the police mentioned a bottle they’d found in the flat”

      That’s yet another story to put in the ‘very hard to believe’ file. Pure coincidence that the day the police discovered the perfume bottle in Charlie’s house (11th July) was the day after he regained consciousness? The remainder of this post is copied from one I wrote last week:

      The police said that they did not find the perfume bottle in Charlie’s house until a week after the search started. That means that Charlie must have hidden it fairly well where the guys in hazmat suits could not find it. They must have been told to look out for any perfume bottle, considering that Frank Gardner had guessed that the Novichok might be stored in such a container. Gardner pointed to that possibility on 6 July, five days before the police found it.

      But why would Charlie hide it if he and Dawn were innocent victims who were handling a bottle of what they had thought was just perfume? The fact that it turned out to be something with a dodgy ammonia smell wasn’t their fault – they just picked it up somehere, right?

      The paramedics must have asked Charlie about what might have caused Dawn to collapse. He had several hours to realise that he should tell the hospital about that substance, but he chose to hide it instead.

      • Brendan

        An alternative possibility is that the police found the bottle earlier – wherever- and waited until he woke up so that he could agree with them on a narrative.

      • Brendan

        I should have made it clearer in my first post that soon after Charlie woke up, he must have told the police where he hid the bottle (if we believe the timeline that the police gave).

        • Tatyana

          Or, police waited for Charlie to make sure that the perfume was really newly obtained item in his house. If no Novichok in it, so they must know no other person touched the perfume, but Dawn and Charlie only.

          • Tatyana

            If you fine a perfume box and perfume bottle (with the same brandname on both) in the house, you conclude it is new, just opened perfume. And, if you want to say it contains Novichok, so you must make certain that no man or woman show up saying “I tested this perfume too”

        • Igor P.P.

          Or he may simply have told what objects they both handled on the day. Someone then looked at that list and picked the most plausible item to be made into “Novichok container”. The question remains why the police said that the bottle was recovered on the 11th and not earlier. But this could be because the original bottle was, quite reasonably, thrown away. So another search was conducted on the 11th to “recover” the now-planted bottle.

  • Ort

    Doodlebug
    July 25, 2018 at 14:36

    Two aspects of the Amesbury story should be summarily dismissed: ‘Novichok’ and ‘Perfume’.
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    Craster
    July 25, 2018 at 16:04

    I am tempted to take this latest information and try to work it into some sort of theory. But, then I have to stop and remind myself that at this time we only have the information that has been released to us by the police-media-complex. And, since the entire story they are telling seems patently absurd, I have no trust at all in the information that has been officially released. Thus, any theory that might be build upon such carefully released evidence is like building a sky-scraper on quicksand. If there is great reason to doubt the information one has, then any theories build on that information are even more doubtful.
    ________________________________________________

    I’m grateful to Craig for pursuing this state-security fantasia. Since the comments are proliferating like popping microwave-popcorn kernels, I’m repeating excerpts from two earlier posts.

    Thanks to Doodlebug and Craster for emphasizing these points.

    I’ve been muttering the same imprecations and arguments expressed in these excerpts, but this seems to be the Cassandra-like minority view. I’m coming to see this case as an illustration of the way state-security disinformation or “false-flag” operations are deliberately complicated with various contradictions, anomalies, and intriguing subplots– this, for the purpose of luring curious truth-seekers into an endless maze of enthusiastic but (dis)informed speculation.

    Although possessed of a natural “truther” anti-authoritarian skepticism, it troubles me that even earnest attempts to undo the joint state-security/mass-media Gordian Knot tend to become recreational, for lack of a better term, as the mystery persists and deepens. “What if” can be fun to play if the plot is sufficiently sensational and intriguing.

    I daresay that the habitual repetition of “novichok” and “nerve agent”, until the original Big Lie of “a military-grade nerve agent” becomes a widely-accepted pernicious factoid, is exactly what the insidious and reprehensible perpetrators of this deception hoped for.

    In that sense, as the cliché goes, “the terrorists have won”. Here, “terrorists” refers to the international terrorist organization known as the “Western Powers”.

    • Doodlebug

      Agreed.

      I suspect the answer to Amesbury is really quite simple, along the lines of ‘Dawn did a bad ‘line’ for breakfast, Charlie another for tea.’ Everything else is what the authorities prefer us to make of it.

    • bj

      Well said man.
      Because this absurdity is the official line, we MUST deconstruct it.

  • SA

    So what about the dog that did not bark in the night? The big story is not this parochial non event of perfume bottles and none-deadly nerve agent. There are surely far bigger fish to fry. I know there will be a howl of if you don’t like it go elsewhere, but there is little elsewhere to go.
    Much bigger stories include in no particular order;
    1. The Helsinki summit and its aftermath and the continuation of Russiagate.
    2. The evolving events in Syria with all thier
    Complexities including the possible impending war with Iran.
    4. The war in Yemen and the human cost of it.
    5.Brexit shambles.
    6. The completely fabricated AS row blowing up as labour 4 points ahead in the polls.
    7. The continuing massacres in Gaza.

    Can we have some sanity please. Can we direct our collective energies to tackle these huge topics otherwise we will be bogged down with what the PTB dangling tidbits to distract us from real issues.

    • berlingooner

      ..perhaps we could use the remaining bottle of Novichok to kill off Brexit ?

    • Tatyana

      SA, I don’t agree. I think if truth never found out this gives weapon directly into murderer’s hands. What if someone else killed with poison, may be head of state or important person, and Porton Down said it is Novichok, Russians did it?
      May be all the absurdity is made on purpose. May be it is just preparation, planting ideas into people’s minds.
      Don’t forget how easily the EU expelled diplomats. Without proofs. Don’t forget how quickly 3 countries decided to launch missiles in Syria. Without proofs.

    • Anthony

      I agree. I doubt Trump even mentioned this blx in his meeting with Putin. Time to stop according it significance and move on.

      • Sharp Ears

        Trump is meeting Juncker in Washington today.

        Trump set for trade tug-of-war with EU’s Juncker
        25 July 2018
        “Trade tariffs are the greatest,” President Donald Trump has declared before Wednesday’s vital US-EU talks aimed at averting an all-out trade war.

        An ominous message for the head of the EU’s executive, Jean-Claude Juncker, as he heads to Washington. Both sides have already slapped tariffs on billions of dollars of imports, but a lot more is at stake.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44935473

        • Antonyl

          Keep any little bottles away from Jean Claude Drunker; he will empty them in one swig..

    • Isa

      I would agree but in this case these things are linked and part of a marketing / propaganda campaign .

      -Syria ( and white helmets )
      -Steele Dossier and insistence on pursuing Russia interference in US election and Brexit
      – Skripal
      – Babchenko

      The first in chronological order is Syria and then the election . The aim was one at first , neo con policies that in the US occur in both the democrats and the republicans . Bringing regime change to where they feel strategic and as Chirac said ” delivering democracy by armoured vehicle ” .

      As per Kissinger and brzezinski the US must hold to being the hegemonic power . For that , the Cold War was necessary for them . They allied with China and brought it to WTO creating a super power and globalisation . The difference now is that Kissinger is advising Trump and in the sense of getting close to Russia to try and prevent Russia and China Alliances . The Democrats , on the other hand , are pursuing alliances with china , seeking globalisation and looking for hostility with Russia and then also justifying the electoral loss by collusion .

      However , I think that the anti Russia campaign inception has been devised by MI6 as it was back in Iraq and WMD and the clumsy Uranium production aluminium tube farce in Niger created by British intelligence .

      So it’s all related and by addressing novichok you are addressing an integrant part of the propaganda designed to bombard the public with so much fake information but present it as evidence that most just take it like that .

      There’s a few good articles but the one in consortium news ” spooks are spooking themselves ” is very good . The situation is now so fabricated that even the spooks are confused .

      Then , of course , in a Brexit divided country to have a common external enemy is excellent . It unites and distracts media and People and fools Them at the same time .

      • SA

        Exactly my point. It is a cog, maybe even a small one in a very much bigger effort and keeping on and on discussing it distracts from the larger issues.

      • CanSpeccy

        Re: “Kissinger is advising Trump and in the sense of getting close to Russia to try and prevent Russia and China Alliances”

        That seems right to me. When the Soviet Union was the greatest threat to Western power, Kissinger pursued the Opening to China, thereby broadening the Soviet/China rift. Now China is the greatest threat the Western Power, the policy, obviously, must be to strengthen US/Russia ties to resist the ongoing integration of the Russian and Chinese economies. The NeoCons, however, have a different and totally mad plan, which is to smash Russia into a collection of easily looted Poroshenkite Corruptionistans, allowing the placement of NATO forces on the border of China.

    • laguerre

      Amesbury is after-effect. It’s not even being pursued very hard by the media.

  • Paul Greenwood

    Those DA Notices really hinder any biographical details of Amesbury druggies leaking out. I mean Rowley has no history but emerged aged 44 into the limelight after a career in Mi6 or Porton Down and his shoot-up friend was presumably only around for the death notice

  • Sharp Ears

    Ahed Tamimi To Be Released Sunday, Her Father Claims
    Bassem Tamimi told media he expects Ahed will be realeased early, but Israeli authorities have not confirmed this.

    Palestinian teen Ahed Tamimi, who has been held in an Israeli prison for slapping a fully armed Israeli soldier in the occupied West Bank town of Nabi Saleh, is expected to be released this Sunday according to her father, Bassem Tamimi.

    /..
    https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Ahed-Tamimi-To-Be-Released-Sunday-Her-Father-Claims-20180724-0018.html

    Poor child. I hope she has not been ill treated.

  • RAC

    Having perfume ( or poison ) in sealed cellophane wrapped package would help it to more easily pass any type of cursory baggage search, or even through the post, does this point to it coming in from abroad or to make us think it may have.

  • OMG

    When the MI5 Director Andrew Parker outed himself in unprecedented fashion adding another layer of spin in his Berlin speech accusing Russia directly it became clear, the falsehood was backpedalling furiously in an attempt to bury the truth. Putin may yet ironically be accused of interfering in a Western electoral process if he releases videos of the interrogation of catering staff to the VIP box at the World Cup, and JC becomes PM. But Russki plays the long game, perhaps holding an easily blackmailable tory government joker card explains that everpresent smirk on the Russian Ambassadors face?

    • Ishmael

      This “interference” narrative is such a pernicious meme.

      So if we so much as publish anything on Russian internal affairs? If only we just did that sort of “interference” the world would be a sweeter place.

      My view is people have a mind of their own that should be respected. If it’s truth it’s good.

      Long live Wikileaks. (a have a badge on the go)

  • David Crawford

    So if the “perfume presentation pack” the junkie found somewhere he can’t remember was unopened then the Russian agents must have smuggled at least 2 containers of semi-lethal nerve agent into the country, used one and successfully disposed of the incriminating “empty” container and packaging and decided to chuck the other away contaminated with their personal DNA and possibly fingerprints no doubt with the name and address of where it was manufactured in Vladivostock…….what a useless bunch these Ruskies are, bet their nukes wouldn’t work either….what are we bothered about? Get Trump to nuke them, we cant because we need their permission to fire our “deterrent”. Pile of PISH!!!!!!

  • rich

    Then:

    1] Pre existing cached stocks.
    2] If sealed and boxed, maybe suggestive of a production line rather than bespoke production. Therefore a possibility of many such items.
    3] Possible evidence of a long term plan. For example, caching and then use as appropriate either on a small scale for target assassination or on a larger scale on the run up to war etc.
    4] Possible indicator of the fear and confusion effect for future use. For example, drop a few boxes around which look like expensive perfume. What person wouldn’t look such a gift horse in the mouth?
    5] Superficially deniable if sealed.
    6] Long term storage in inert glass manufactured in the right way.

  • Tony

    If you believe the perfume story and Charlie says he does not remember where he got it, well he may have stolen it from a shop (he’s not going to tell us that), It could be a poison deliberately left in a shop to affect some unsuspecting buyer (to cause alarm and further confusion?). The only drawback with this explanation is Charlie would have to have extremely bad look to pinch that bottle.

    The whole perfume story sounds made up anyway (has it been officially declared as such? I’ve not read anything yet). If Charlie and Dawn had taken substances that morning he would hardly go on TV and say so. More likely to blame it on something he picked up. According to reports in hospital he was told that police found a ‘bottle’ of nerve agent in his house – did this prompt the ensuing ‘perfume’ explanation for the bottle from Charlie?

    Since when would military grade nerve agent come in a perfume bottle where you have to apply an applicator to use – by Charlie’s own admission – this was messy as he spilled some! Ultra dangerous you would have thought. Smuggling nerve gas in a perfume bottle on an airplane trip. Put it in the luggage. Have you seen how baggage handlers treat bags in the UK? What if the bag went missing? Carry it with you on the plane – even highly trained assassins might be worried about that. Would you want it so close to you, what if there was some mishap etc?

    The box must have looked okay otherwise it would have been of no interest. Would you give a battered box to your girlfriend.At least you would have taken the bottle out first. And the fact it seemed newish and unopened says this hadn’t been around in the elements for long and would likely to have been inside somewhere, and possibly only for a short while further cutting ties to the Skirpal case.

    If Dawn sprayed the substance on her wrists as Charlie says wouldn’t she have had the same reaction as he did when he got it on his hands? If it was oily and did not smell like a scent she would have washed off immediately. Also the most natural thing to do with a perfume is put it close to your nose and breath in deeply. If Dawn did that with a military grade nerve agent I kinda think she would be dead before she hit the floor.

    The perfume story has so many problems – I agree with previous comments that a reasonable response from the authorities would be to name it to prevent any possible further situations. They can’t possibly rule out maybe multiple bottles out there and a bland ‘don’t pick anything up’ is rather poor advice. I firmly believe officials will say Charlie is confused about the perfume and release images of the ‘bottle’ they actually found.

    • LenkaPenka

      The shop theory… sounds very plausible, purchased or nicked… doesn’t matter the story would be shutdown immediately and an alternate narrative created… imagine if that were the truth and it was made public….

    • Jo

      So it must have been designed to break to reveal the novichok to continue the story? Suppose it would have been crushed by a mower or sweeping machine.or crushed in dumpster collection..whole area and peoples contaminated…so that it was found and only limited to two people….saved that catastrophe…foiled more dastardly plans?

  • LenkaPenka

    The Security services probably scared our Charlie shitless.

    Likely as close to the truth as we will get!

    • John A

      All they had to do was suggest Charlie wouldnt be able to collect his methadone fix from the chemists.

  • Tony Kevin

    This latest commentary by Craig Murray on the latest ridiculous twist to the UK Government’s self-contradictory false narrative on the Skripal / Charlie Rowley saga is worth reading. Is there any longer any point in trying to make sense of the story based from the beginning on false official information , one reader pertinently asks? Isn’t one by doing so simply facilitating the UK Government’s aim of simply confusing and befuddling everybody , to persuade us to give up on the story?

    As long as the Skripals are still apparently alive and unjustly imprisoned by the British Government, this affair will not be forgotten. For me, the essential thread to monitor will be – what is the Russian Government saying about the wellbeing of its nationals Sergey and his daughter Yulia ? Russia-UK relations will never be normalised while this sordid unfinished business hangs over them. Craig Murray. Off-Guardian. Tony Kevin.

    • Ishmael

      Something tells me this will “normalise” only when & if USA gives us the ok for alternative marching orders. There is somewhat of a insurgent movement within the democratic party ATM. How far it can go ? ..Or indeed how far JC can go where he to get in.

      These institutional relationships are undoubtedly hard to break. Im sure to them this is all normal, they have been going on like this for decades & built relationships, that I’m sure are just looked on like work colleges.

      Institutionalisation. …Or the living dead as I think of them. …Torture, “let’s do torture, that will be good” …?

      Someone actually thought that & ok’d it. & only ONE person I’m aware of in the UK made any fuss.

    • CanSpeccy

      What reason does anyone have to believe that the “Skripals are still apparently alive and unjustly imprisoned by the British Government”? I thought the CIA was going to take care of them, and if they did, then the Skripals could be anywhere, alive or dead.

    • N_

      Sacha Baron Cohen is such a racist scumbag, and in this case he is portraying upskirting as funny when it is done against Muslim women.

      I was going to ask whether Jason Spencer had upset the ADL but he is probably just a complete idiot. Got to wonder what the Trump supporting “deplorables” think of his performance.

      • N_

        This poor politician’s mind is probably reeling. He helps AIPAC by proposing an attack on the clothing choices made by some Muslim women, pretending he thinks it’s in the general interest. He helps someone whom he thinks is an ex-Mossad hard man running training in humiliating Muslim women by looking up their skirts. He screams anti-black abuse, pretending it’s got something to do with the fight against “terrorism”.

        Clearly representing the generalised figure of a US politician, he literally drops his trousers, bends over, and gets his arse out when an I__aeli asks him to.

        And oh dear. Baron Cohen laughs all the way to the bank. And will AIPAC pay Spencer a pension? Will they fuck!

  • N_

    @quasi_verbatim wrote: “On a brighter note and now that the Supreme Court has ruled that those in an unhappy marriage must jolly well stay in it, we can expect sales of NoviSpray to rocket.

    The Supreme Court upheld the law. Statutory law says that if you want a divorce you must either prove fault or live apart for a period, which is longer if the other party wants to stay married. It has never said that a married person can end their marriage on demand simply because they’re unhappy with it one day. Where is the famous “MSM” getting its implied view from that this is what is favoured by current mores? I won’t be surprised if this gets made into a big issue – i.e. the idea that “everyone” wants to make marriage non-contractual.

    Meanwhile there is a push for civil partnerships to be allowed between brothers and sisters, fronted by Tory MP Edward Leigh. Interestingly he is Roman Catholic. I don’t know where he is coming from or whether he is Jesuit, Opus Dei, or neither. In Germany many commentators and academics, and the German Ethics Council, have gone further and called for the legalisation of incest.

    • quasi_verbatim

      I don’t know, but a TV ad with Yulia floating about in a negligee promoting NoviSpray is in preparation for the Christmas trade.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ lysias July 25, 2018 at 21:43
      Not sure, but house prices in the Salisbury/Amesbury/Porton Down triangle have plummeted, offering a ‘killing’ for sharp operators after the hoax is exposed.
      Who in May’s entourage is into real estate?

      • N_

        I don’t know, but the profits available would surely be less than from the 50% increase in military spending called for by both Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson and the House of Commons Select Committee on Defence.

        Repeat: they are calling for a 50% interest in defence spending, when the estimated fall in GDP due to a “WTO” Brexit has been estimated as 10%. And the GDP figures are in any case artificially inflated by the increase in house prices. (“Imputed rent” of owner occupied housing – imputed from house prices – goes into the GDP figure.)

        There really is only a single way to get such an enormous expansion of the warfare state, and that is to propagandise about a dangerous enemy.

  • Doodlebug

    With the ‘Met’ steering the Amesbury investigation, I doubt they have sanctioned a screening of Charlie Rowley’s domicile by a drug-sniffing dog. (‘What would be the point? We already know of Charlie’s history in that regard’).

    Well I wouldn’t bet the farm on it, but it would surprise me not at all if there were a risk to the animal. Having traced the present or past locus of a suspect compound it might well proceed to ROF, but without LIAO.

  • quasi_verbatim

    The government’s new Stockpile for Brexit Victory policy is to be commended although stocks of Bullshit are more than adequate in Westminster and Wiltshire.

  • Sharp Ears

    It would be interesting to know whether Theresa May pays £90/mth for her diabetes ‘patch’ or whether her friendly doctor prescribes it for her on the NHS. Of course, we will not be told.

    I expect you have noticed it situated on her outer upper arm. It obviates the need for finger prick blood tests.

    Diabetes Patients Face A ‘Postcode Lottery’ For Access To Patch Like Theresa May’s
    In many areas of the UK you have to pay for the sensor – but it is free in both areas where the Prime Minister has homes.
    22/07/2018
    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/diabetes-sensor-postcode-lottery_uk_5b51a73ce4b0b15aba8d85fc

  • Radar O’Reilly

    Yet another datapoint linking the UK government agencies directly to the deep-state revolt against Trump:-

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/this-former-british-spy-exposed-the-russian-hackers [naïve website?]

    UK “Ex-GCHQ” “spy” found “Russian metadata” in (one of) the Hilary hacks.

    Did he rule out deliberately obfuscated “Russian metadata”?, such as the Assange published “Marble Malware tools”

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14006059 [2017 hacker discussion website]

    Three quarters down the [US CIA] wiki page there is code for “adding foreign language” to the [self-modifying] code. The options are are to add code comments in Arabic/Chinese/Russian/Korean/Farsi

    This allows the CIA to write code that apparently gives subtle hints that it was Russian in origin, a false-flag attribution for malware, and doesn’t surprise me as much as the fact that YET ANOTHER (alleged) Bloody British spy is in there meddling in US elections fallout.

    Steele, ‘D-Notice’ & Skripal, Mifsud, old Uncle Tom Cobbley and all

  • laguerre

    The current heat-wave is weather, not climate change. The last one was in 2003, that’s quite a while ago. Evidently the climate is changing, but a heatwave is not evidence of it.

  • Anay Law

    Listen to the ex MI5 woman who was interviewed on Friday 20th July on BBC Radio Scotland’s Good Morning Scotland. They got (I imagine) far less of an establishment line than they might have expected from the calm dismemberment of Daily Mail/Telegraph stories.

      • bj

        You sure as hell like your [clears throat] “em-eye-five” or “em-eye-six” agents up there on your Island.

        That needs to change before anything else.

        It’s sick to have thugs and murderers as household names.

  • Dave G

    UK authorities poisoned the Skripals with BZ, but claimed it was Novichok (because that sort of incriminates the Russians). But hardly anyone believed that it was a hugely lethal nerve agent like Novichok because it didn’t kill any of the three people that it supposedly infected. So in an attempt to bolster the initial Novichok lie, UK spooks left some real Novichok around to kill someone. Handy having Porton Down so close.
    Hey, it’s just as likely as the official version!

    • KEN KENN

      Dave G

      In all honesty I don’t really know what happened with the Skripals and Charlie and Dawn.

      All I think I know is that for May’s government it was either an opportunity taken or an opportunity created.

      I tend to think it was the former that presented itself via the good offices of the Wiltshire Police and the Salisbury Hospital who initially ( with the Skripals ) thought it was Fentanyl poisoning,

      In the era of spin being all encompassing the governemnt leapt upon the Russians are our enemy to crave favour with the U$ and it has all rolled out from there.

      Charlie apparently has found a package – 3″ x 3″ in size and 1/2 an inch thick cellophane wrapped and why not he – thought it was a cracking find for his beau.

      Now there are many fakes from China etc but Novichok perfume is not one. Stagnant water from the Yangste river may be one but not Novichok.

      This narrative is getting crazier by the day and should that be a surprise because if the initial story was crap
      then the re-inforcing of it is going to be crapper.

      Next thing you know is that the local Pharmacy is going to claim that most of their perfume smells of ammonia.

      ” Well he sounded like an honest guy when he sold us the consignment ” said the Chemist.

      This is beyond parody I reckon.

  • Sharp Ears

    They, the US authorities, are still after Maria Butina. Craig referred to her in his previous blog post.

    Prosecutors want to classify evidence in case against accused ‘Russian agent’ Maria Butina
    25 Jul 2018

    US federal prosecutors want to seal evidence in their case against Maria Butina, the Russian national who has been charged with conspiracy against the United States and failure to register as a foreign agent.

    During a hearing at the US District Court for the District of Columbia on Wednesday, prosecutors said they wanted the protective order because they were worried about Butina’s lawyers potentially leaking material to the media. They argued that the protective order would “facilitate the protection of the investigation.

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    https://www.rt.com/usa/434258-maria-butina-protection-order-evidence/

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