UPDATE Social media has got very excited over the fact the young woman is apparently an actress. But why should she not be? In my extensive contact with actors, they are particularly likely to be politically engaged. I should also note that I have received quite a lot of abuse for pointing out that the reason this one person got on the front page of all the newspapers is that she is young and pretty. That is simply true- it is what newspaper editors do. I am criticising the media for this. Opposing the prioritising of media exposure by physical attractiveness is in fact a classic feminist stance, so I have no idea why feminists are attacking me on it. END OF UPDATE.
In one sense, I am delighted that the heavy-handed police action at the vigil for Sarah Everard has brought about public revulsion at the attack on free speech and the right of assembly, just as Priti Patel prepares to bring in the dreadful policing bill which represents the biggest single threat to freedom of assembly in the UK for 200 years. Its foundational principle is that the right of freedom of assembly is subordinate to the right to drive a SUV anywhere and any time you please, without having to detour around people taking part in democratic expression. It has a subsidiary principle that all public manifestations of political dissent will be intimidated by massive police presence, and that the cost of that massive intimidatory presence will in itself be reason to ban the demonstration. Which would be delightfully Kafkaesque were it only a joke.
The excuse for breaking up the Everard vigil was of course Covid. In all but the most extreme circumstances, where public health management conflicts with the most fundamental of human rights, then human rights should avail. The Patel legislation is not a response to Covid, it is a response to Extinction Rebellion. I remain wholly supportive of ER; the need to jolt people out of their complacency and inaction over climate change is a massive political priority, and I certainly hope Extinction Rebellion will be back with a bang in the summer.
But I am afraid to say it could not escape my notice that the protest over the Everard vigil was in stark contrast to the lack of protest at the police breaking up the Assange vigil in Piccadilly Circus, which was much smaller and less intrusive and much better social distanced. Unfortunately the police ,arrested 92 year old Eric who is not a young and pretty woman, so it got no media coverage.
The sad truth is of course that among those vying to be seen in both mainstream and social media to express outrage at the police disruption of the Everard vigil, are many fierce proponents of cancel culture. The outrage over which speech is limited is highly selective. That free speech also extends to Julian Assange or Piers Corbyn is not intuitive to the mainstream media at present. There seems to be a real danger that British society is losing all notion of the idea that free speech is for everybody, not just those you agree with or who are deemed respectable by the media and political class.
I was going to make a joke about freedom of speech extending even to protests without any Duchesses, which led me to recall that there was in fact a bona fide Duchess on the last Assange demonstration I participated in!
Scotland has of course just contributed to this general atmosphere of repression by passing a completely unnecessary Hate Crime Bill. Not only does this outlaw politically incorrect speech even within your own home – and in film and theatrical performances – there is every reason to believe it will lead to an increase in the political prosecutions for which the Scottish Crown Office is becoming renowned. At which point, it is worth noting it is now nearly seven weeks since my hearing for contempt of court, with no sign of a judgement, which seems to me very extraordinary.
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Not exactly a one off, see this shocking report:
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2021/03/16/horrifying-research-shows-two-cops-a-month-commit-violent-or-sexual-offences-against-women-and-children/
Always been an institutionally racist and myogenic outfit, although this is well known nothing is done to change the Police.
It initially sounded shocking, but it was an article specifically meant to convince the reader that the police service is “broken”. Looked at more closely it isn’t as bad as one might initially think. It says that “every month in 2019, on average at least two police officers committed violent or sexual offences against women or children”. It doesn’t say in what situations these offences occurred or how serious they actually were (note the nature of “sexual offences” with which Alex Salmond was charged to see just how trivial these can sometimes be). And when you consider that there are 153,000 serving police officers in the UK, and that all are human, the fact that 0.0013% of them commit such an offence every month (0.015% every year) doesn’t really seem quite so shocking.
That’s alright then !
Cannot think of any other government organisation which has such a record, particularly one charged with protecting the public ?
Of course, we mustn’t forget the other great hotbed of protected sex offenders in Westminster.
@DaveyTee – Your argument has obvious hidden premises, but that’s par for the course when someone is defending the indefensible.
“It says that ‘every month in 2019, on average at least two police officers committed violent or sexual offences against women or children’. It doesn’t say in what situations these offences occurred or how serious they actually were“
You give away where you’re coming from right there. Perhaps it doesn’t break them down by day of the week either. You missed a chance to pick apart the phrase “on average at least two”.
“(note the nature of “sexual offences” with which Alex Salmond was charged to see just how trivial these can sometimes be).“
Salmond was accused of the extremely serious offence of attempted rape. He was also accused of more minor sexual offences. Did you edit to remove the word “the” before “sexual offences”, not wanting to go as far as inserting the words “some of” before it?
“when you consider that there are 153,000 serving police officers in the UK, and that all are human“
Gave yourself away. It’s not “human” for a man to commit violent and sexual offences against women and children.
What is human is to care for other people and to recognise that you SHARE a humanity with them.
In any case, the police service isn’t “broken”. It fulfils its (changing) function quite effectively. I say “changing” because the police have been empowered to impose far more “fines” than they used to, and because soon they will be stampers out of “one-person demonstrations” too. (This is proposed in the new Bill.)
People need to think about what causes a person to mount a “one-person demonstration”… It is usually because they or a close family member has been lied to, sometimes robbed and in any case treated like absolute dirt, perhaps put in a position where their life has practically collapsed – they have lost their livelihood, all their money, all their stuff, their means of getting home from where they are, perhaps they have lost their home itself, or they have been told they are in huge debt (or in the case of a close family member, who may be a child, that person may have been killed or allowed to die or they may have been kidnapped) – and when they have tried to do something about it, acting in a polite way, they have come up against zombie-like robots who work for some apparently impersonal machine, who ignore what is obviously true, assert what is obviously false, assert obviously self-contradictory stuff, and treat them as if they are a nuisance or public danger or “waste of space” for reacting in a human fashion to the obvious wrong they themselves or their family members have suffered.
THAT is why people mount “one-person demonstrations” – they don’t tend be posh people by the way – and the cops are about to be given the power to stop them, saying the “noise” they make disturbs “organisations”. (Yes there are a small number who do things like camp out outside parliament for years on end to protest against war – great and admirable people, every last one of them, but a minority of one-person demonstrators I reckon.)
One would practically have to have one’s head in the sand not to realise that the cops have been given the right to walk 10 foot tall since last March, breaking up all protests, stopping people talking to each other, robbing money from people who rest on park benches to take a breather when they’re going for a walk, and so on.
A similar “go ahead” authorisation is about to be given to those who run the kind of “organisations” that tend to be the object of “one-person demonstrations”…e.g.
That kind of “go ahead” authorisation to “little Hitlers” is a key distinguishing characteristic of fascism.
According to this Daily Mail piece today, Wayne Couzens the murder suspect now has a black eye to accompany his separate head injuries. It would also appear he was not on duty at the US Embassy on the 3rd March from 2-8pm, contrary to almost all media reports. Who’s feeding the media with these accounts of his shifts I wonder. The suspect appeared at the Old Bailey via video link from Belmarsh prison
“Details on Diplomatic Protection Officer Wayne Couzens, 48, and his shift pattern were disclosed at his first Old Bailey appearance this morning. Couzens, who had a large injury on his head and black left eye, appeared to rock to and fro during the hearing.
The position is that Sarah Everard was walking home a distance of some two and a half miles – if she had made it home – at 9 o’clock on the evening of March 3. ‘The defendant had finished his last shift earlier that day, in fact that morning.’ Judge Luckraft said a plea hearing would be held on July 9 at the Old Bailey and a provisional date for a trial – which could last up to four weeks – was set for October 25”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9366593/Met-Police-officer-Wayne-Couzens-48-court-today.html
We do live in an Authoritarian State/Regime. Ask the Speaker of the House of Commons why he does not have the balls to do his job and call the Prime Minister to withdraw his lies ? It is the job of all Regimes to silence speakers of the truth. Ask JA, Craig and the witnessess to the killing of Jean Charles Menezes. The sad thing is the silent majority will always stay silent. Ask Palestinians what it’s like to be under decades of “Lockdown”. They would laugh at us armchair warriors and our travails. Independence starts with introspection of our own lives and Renaissance. Sleep tight.
Presumably he arrived in Belmarsh on Saturday.
That a defendant keeps turning up to court with new injuries is of concern.
I eventually found out the basis for the magistrate’s saying on Saturday that he didn’t have the authority to consider a bail application. It wasn’t to do with the Terrorism Act. Section 115(1) of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 removed such authority in murder cases. “A person charged with murder may not be granted bail except by order of a judge of the Crown Court.”
The cops appear to be spending a lot of resources looking for something. They shouldn’t have charged him unless they felt they had enough evidence to convict him. Wherever the mobile phone is, it’s probably not at the bottom of a river.
WTF is a “private ambulance” doing in those woods near Ashford with the police van?
“Private ambulance” commonly used to remove bodies.
Given his high profile,and career choice, its safe to assume that there will be those amongst the lags on remand with Couzens who will relish the chance to assault him, and somehow seek to bolster their own standing by so doing ?
Couzens has now entered a world inhabited by anti social malefactors who have their own grading system of social worthiness. And of course, the sexual criminal, as is also the case in the world of the law abiding, occupies the lowest rung.
Cousins has injured himself and is rocking back and forth because he knows how to play the system, it will give his lawyers the chance to claim he acted through diminished responsibility.
Spencer Eagle
Rocking himself.
One could just as easily speculate that he has been stitched up and can’t work out how to extricate himself.
Nobody has the tiniest idea what this is all about. Would you like us to swallow government lies hook, line, sinker, plus media red herrings, before any facts emerge?
Wonder what intel the cousins have on Couzens?
The pretty young woman with the red hair, is crisis actor by the name of Patsy Stevenson.
https://enchantedlifepath.com/2021/03/14/patsy-stevenson-crisis-actor-physics-grad-arrest-at-sarah-everard-vigil/
It also appears that Sarah Everard was an anti-lockdown activist.
I know this seems a bit odd but Miss Everard’s murder has certainly taken the heat off the Royal family and switched it to somewhere else.
That’s a loony article that concludes from the fact that she works as an actress and is studying for a physics degree that she is a “crisis actor” and that she “has connections to quantum physics and universities”.
As has this circular male/female merry-go-round
I blame the Ruskies. Better get some more Nukes in. Ask our pals up North to look after them.
Yes ‘more is better’ looking forward to a post-Brexit Britain tilt towards the Indo-Pacific region; India, Japan etc (but don;t mention China) and of course Russia is our heavyweight infiltrator forgetting Sayeret Matkal (recruiting sayanim) or the CIA.
[nota bene) – Mossad Katsas (handlers or case officers) often utilise Sayanim for their operations.They are recruited to provide logistical support for Mossad operations. Sayanim have full loyalty to the state of Israel, are unpaid and can be a dual nationals.The usage of Sayanim allows the Mossad to operate on a small budget yet conduct effective and far-reaching operations. The sabotage/subversion of Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour was engineering by Sayanim.
Margaret Hodge springs to mind with her travel bag inside the front door all ready to flee should the “antisemitic” wave turn into a tsunami.
Meanwhile Johnson had hung the Royal Family out to dry to divert attention from himself. Nice lot, our rulers.
Presumably he’s holding Prince Andrew in reserve for when things get really desperate for him.
Bramble,
Shirley it’s the Royals being racist to their Cinderella exclusive world wide opera that has been purged?
& Los,
They used Andrew effectively during the GE to deflate the momentum of the broadband for all policy was having.
Suggest a read of Milton Mayer’s
‘The Germans 1933-45
They Thought They Were Free’
and compare Germany then to the UK now, ‘this sceptred isle set in a silver sea’ etc etc.
Complacency rules.’
I suppose it’s not a coincidence that all this is kicking off just as those who remember the 1930s are dying off.
Indeed. It’s all in there.
The arrest video you linked to isn’t Eric btw. Link to Erics arrest here: https://youtu.be/EFtRfq8lP-E
Speechless – no words, only disgust at those in control of our society and those who police their masters’/ mistresses’ commands
https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-stories-that-are-true/#more-127990
Light blue touchpaper and stand back for the fireworks now that David Davies has used UK Parliamentary Privilege to bring this information into Public Domain.
We all know that there are elections in Scotland in a few weeks, so let cynicism’s about the timing of David Davis be left unsaid……..for now…_
Youtubes ‘Crimebodge’ take on the Couzins case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8hTcbGEAI
Thanks for the “Crimebodge” video.
There needs to be more scrutiny of bent coppers from an independent body. As the former Met Police commissioner
Sir Robert Mark said …..
“The basic test for a decent police force is that it should catch more criminals than it employs”
“Michael Cockerell’s feature on former Metropolitan Police commissioner Robert Mark, who was on a mission to root out corruption from Scotland Yard”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfMyTtUHlGc
it is very clear now that the scottish judiciary is morally bankrupt, whatever verdict is eventually delivered.
kudos to david davis btw for joining you in exposing the corrupt heart of the snp government. a rare voice of integrity in british public life.
zoot
Now we know why Craig said Boris Johnson is an intelligent, caring man. I’d give him 10 years for public arse licking. But it does seem to have got the rabbit out the proverbial Top Hat in parliament.
i remember you being a gushing fan of theresa may and sajid javid at a time when an actual opposition finally existed.
you’re a pure bs artist.
Zoot
Gushing of May’s retention of trade deal mechanisms at a time that Boris wanted none. You forget his calligraphic loop the loops on that.
Never gushed about Sajid Javid .
All politics is pure b.s. I.m.h.o
It’s good to get the truth out in the public domain. But, am I the only one who thinks the timing is suspicious ?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/17/marc-m17.html
Whilst I don’t agree with everything in this piece, I do think there are some interesting insights into the character of ‘media hysteria’ and how certain types of protests are deemed to be ‘woke’, whilst others are not seen as legitimate at all, like protests for Julian Assange.
I think we’re in the era of manufactured ‘mass hysteria’ promoted and created by the corporate mass media. It’s a propaganda tool designed to manipulate the collective feelings of the population by steamrolling over rational and critical thought. ‘Fear’ is a key component in this process of propaganda. The tragic death of this young woman is being exploited by myriad groups to push their own particular political/power agenda in a disgustingly cynical fashion. She’s being turned into a martyr for the cause, regardless of the facts of the case, of which we know very little at present. What’s wrong with waiting for the trial before people jump to wild conclusions about the ‘true causes’ behind this ghastly murder? Was this copper in uniform, for example? Or, how many abductions and murders are committed by serving policemen? On the face of it, this is an incredibly rare event, which means that the chance of being murdered by a policman are close to non-existent, therefore, whipping up hysteria about such a rare occurance is highly irresponisble, though it does serve a propaganda objective.
Increasingly the mass-media, and our general political culture, are ‘grooming’ the public to respond ‘irrationally’ to political theatre
“How many abductions and murders are committed by serving policemen?”
>”To date there have been 1778 deaths in police custody or otherwise following contact with the police in England & Wales since 1990″ source:Inquest.org. No policeman is ever held accountable for these deaths.
And then there’s JC de Menenzes, and Ian Tomlinson, none of whose uniformed killers were ever brought to justice, courtesy of (then) DPP Keir Starmer.
If Dick and Starmer had a love child would it be called Adolf or Joe ?
Biden.
“Increasingly the mass-media, and our general political culture, are ‘grooming’ the public to respond ‘irrationally’ to political theatre”
Following the advice of E. Bernays no doubt.
https://thesaker.is/bernays-and-propaganda-propaganda-continues-unabated-part-5/
There is no evidence to say the woman arrested is a crisis actor except to say she did a bit of part time acting.
Whether she is a part time or full time actress is irrelevant. She wasn’t the only person at the vigil and wasn’t the only person ‘man handled’. There is a bigger picture here that needs to be seen.
The Tories have just voted in more restrictions on our freedoms. China and Russia are beginning to look more like the the lands of the free.
Freedom to invade, occupy, bomb the crap out of millions, orchestrate fascist coups, impose economic starvation sanctions here, there and everywhere. Since the beginning of this new century it hasn’t been Russia or China who have been insanely prolific in excercising their ‘freedom’ around the globe. Britain’s done. Gone. It’s chosen it’s (Yankee) path and it ain’t gonna end well, no sirree. I feel sorry for the kids, the poor sods.
This new policing bill is a shocker but is of a piece with the growing authoritarianism of recent years. Labour were going to wave it through until a last minute, focused-grouped flip flop by Starmer following the vigil beat down. Instead of finding fresh ways to make a fool of himself what if he had used his legal background to lead the challenge against a police state in the way he did a 2nd Brexit vote?
Starmer is either a direct establishment plant or functionally the same thing. I really don’t understand how anyone can retain enthusiasm for that party while he remains leader. Should he gain power it’d be Blairism on steroids. In the recent defence debate he bemoaned the UK’s ‘global retreat’ militarily – basically attacking the Tories for not being interventionist…seriously wtf?
Why Labour members are tolerating his leadership is the bigger mystery. To have a left-wing party usurped and led by a pair of individuals like Starmer and Evans, who clearly despise the left, it should be unbearable.
He’s backed by Peter Mandelson which speaks volumes.
Mandelson recently called the left ‘corrupt’ in an interview. This is a man who after a decade in politics went from owning a one bedroom flat to reportedly buying an £8m four-storey former almshouse in Regent’s Park, London. But ‘no one goes into politics for the money’ they say. Amazed he and Blair aren’t subject to Unexplained wealth orders.
He was backed during the leadership campaign by George Osborne and by every centrist commentator that had strained to destroy Corbyn. Very loudly backed by them.
Those were key endorsements for Labour members. They will tolerate Starmer for as long as he maintains the full support of the Guardian and of ‘respectable’, pro-EU Tories like Osborne.
The SNP are infiltrated too.
UK Politics feels like a upper class and upper-middle class closed shop, with no one outside the heavily media vetted ‘club’ allowed a look in. The debate over defence and the UK ‘projecting global military power’ shows how parochial and out of touch Westminster is with NHS staff offered a miserly 1% rise.
I read Craig that won’t be supporting the SNP because he feels they aren’t really serious about delivering a referendum. But surely that will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if short of a Holyrood majority? If they aren’t serious to begin with then won’t no majority simply provide a ready made excuse?
I just watched PMQ’s to see how the handsome well coiffured GKH, making suckers of anyone left, would find a way of rubber stamping this new Riot Act.
Nauseatingly. He made it clear he was the bovver boy for the State for 5 years so he could be relied on to ease it through while making some ‘careful now’ set ups for Bozo to knock over the ropes.
The absolute disgraceful naming of perpetrators of rape of minors and the sentences they received!
One needs to know the context of the Bozo’s current baby mama – PR exec and minder appointed to cater to the clowns needs – personal history as a ‘‘victim of rape’ by a now notorious modern day mass rapist with still unrecognised total number of victims – to get a grasp of how The GKH is lending a helping hand to this notorious Act. Which is designed to keep the future serfs down and locked in our own parishes, never to look our betters in the eye or topple their statues and let them get away with their Droit du seigneur. to rape at will.
They have declared war upon us, at home, as they have been doing to defenceless ’natives’ across the globe forever. We are being visited with the imposition of Civilisation as these far flung innocents have always been.
How do we like these chickens coming home to roost?
The lesson to be learnt from these historical VICTIMS of our centuries old imperialism is how to resist-organise and yes fight! To regain the freedoms that we have been suckered into giving away through our acceptance of decades of Downtonised propaganda.
This PM, This Leader of the Opposition, This Speaker are the culmination of 50 years of recapture of the levers of state and laws.
They are no more than any group of thugs that ever took control of a government.
I need a shower.
The stupidity of Brexit and giving Johnson’s crew an undeserved big majority will be with the UK for a long time.
” and giving Johnson’s crew an undeserved big majority”
by postal ballot (allegedly).
How strange, I thought, that not much comment on David Davies speech given under parliamentary privilege has been made. Not even to acknowledge that those in Holyrood, or in the dock in Scotland, don’t share the same privileges of speech as those in similar positions south of the border.
Then I mulled over the differences between accountability in Holyrood and Westminster. Then I mulled over the demands for independence and have once again come to the conclusion that those demanding independence seem to have no understanding of how to hold those in power to account.
Putting those few random thoughts through the mulling process I end up failing to see how anybody thought Scots would have their liberties and freedoms expanded in a one party state with a bent judiciary, a bent legislative body, and a bent civil service.
How the Indyref movement managed such a high vote in favour in the last referendum seems to be nothing more than a reflection of impossible thoughts before breakfast…_
Is there a reliable write up on Davis’s statement somewhere?
The sugar king who turned up to meet Barnier with no proposals or notes even… is an enigma. He does however speak much truth when left to his own devices.
Here is what he had to say on the yet again kicked into long grass miscarriage of justice in the most important political prisoner in the Western World.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-01-22-uks-former-brexit-secretary-says-assange-judge-got-the-law-wrong/
….”Is there a reliable write up on Davis’s statement somewhere”………yes there is, verbatim from Hansard…_
https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-stories-that-are-true/#more-127990
Thanks that is excellent from WOS.
What’s this latest email revealed?
@DiggerUK
‘[Scotland’s] one party state with a bent judiciary’,
If the alternative is Westminster and the ‘big C’ conservative judiciary here in England & Wales, are things that bad? The fact Scotland’s democratic and judicial problems are obvious and acknowledged by most offers the chance and hope of ultimately addressing them.
Post independence the SNP’s dominance would surely wane or at the very least be challenged by new parties. Scotland will likely have a new written constitution in time and democracy will be far healthier under its proportionate system ( and there are plans to make it even more accurately proportionate). Certainly more so than under Westminster’s putrid FPTP ‘two-parties and no real choice’ elections to the HoC and unelected HoL,
I don’t need lessons in the venality of Westminster politics. Especially after the campaigns I participated in to get justice for the B’ham 6, Guilford 4 and Judith Ward.
In those cases juries were persuaded to return guilty verdicts.
In the case of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi it was SCOTTISH judges who did the dirty and nothing gets said of any consequence about a bent judiciary in Scotland. It’s time to take hope and aspiration and inject some damned realism in to what type of independent Scotland you would get, not what you fantasise about.
And I have to say this on a blog I first came to after reading “Murder in Samarkand” whose opening pages were a horrifying account of the consequences of a bent judicial system? Please spare me the bilge…_
That’s a counsel of despair tbh.
Scotland and its institutions are very much shaped by the rUK and vice versa. Other joint institutions like the BBC and tabloid media environment shape public opinion and stifle/limit the ability to debate those constitutional / democratic/ judicial reforms. Neither you nor I know what will be possible once free of the stifling UK and its overreaching establishment including politically meddling security services.
Look at the way Scots are heavily integrated into establishment circles & Privy council: Lord Forsyth, Sir Malcolm Rifkind, Ruth Davidson. On which, Ruth Davidson is joining the House of Lords: a Scot potentially legislating for England when the Lords have no legislative role in Scotland, hmm? The UK constitutional arrangements are demonstrably undemocratic and unfair if viewed by any objective observer.
I think you’re underestimating how much influence the UK establishment has over Scotland. Break that and it opens up the whole gamut of radical reform.
How much sway does London have over Dublin?
ROI is a place of radical reform only in the way Grasping the Thistle Scotland would be.
Sinn Féin are shaking the political scene up somewhat in recent years. Ireland’s history has been influenced by the ‘conservatism’ of the Vatican – 80% of the population identify as Catholic.
I meant more in terms of controlling their own destiny. And they aren’t volunteering young Irish men and women to be cannon fodder propping up US world hegemony like our MoD are on plan to continue to do.
There’s little doubt that were a war with Iran to come, the UK would be ‘all in’ with Johnson and Starmer trying to out do each other in a macabre ‘who’s the most hawkish’ competition, with both making obnoxious Blair-style claims mass murder is…. “The right thing to do!”.
On which I was staggered by the BBC Newsnight neocon-flavoured ‘debate’ on the UK defence review last night. Discussing how the UK forces can be ‘most useful’ to the US. Is that the UK’s future : an appendage to US global military power?
Did we leave the EU so we could become a colony of the US?
And these people call others unpatriotic?
“Did we leave the EU so we could become a colony of the US?”
I think that was the idea, yes, to the extent that we weren’t already a colony of the US.
It’s funny, how so many of the people who claim Scottish independence will be a disaster for Scots, certainly implying Scots are uniquely incapable compared to the Tory posh boys? The same people desperately seek to lock Scotland into this union and issue dire threats all the time.
Are they scared of being wrong and left trying justify the class system and permanent Tory rule when Scots have escaped that misery?
Happy St.Patrick’s day all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QylTFuUZr9g
When Scotland gains independence we’ll share with you how to make drones dance in the sky 😀
“the biggest single threat to freedom of assembly“
And not just that – they are cracking down on one-person protests too, most of which can also be described as “letting people know in public what has happened to you and who you believe to be responsible”.
The policing bill is crystal clear illustration that the lockdown is not essentially about a pandemic or anything else to do with health.
A perspective is called for that is other a liberal democratic one. We need to ask, “Do they think we are so powerful?”
They could impose curfews and start disappearing govt critics and the public would merely shrug. Can’t really blame them with Borg-like authoritarian Starmer leading the laughably titled ‘opposition’, ‘Resistance is Futile!’. People should rightfully despise this fake democracy.
Another question is why is it politicians and those in authority can barely conceal the fact they see the public as potential enemies?
The question now is how long before they turn their close-together, swivel eyes on blogs like this one ?
They’ve got rid of the Chinese News-CGTN. RT and Sputnik will be next then they’ll come for Craig.
Free Speech, Democracy? Not in this sh*thole fascist state.
Probably already have.
You’d almost expect such pettiness and 1984-style policing of trivial discussion forums these days, and ECHR rights be damned. because they’re following orders don’t care about your rights. Guess it’ll be something else they can explain in a future inquiry.
We don’t seem to have much to stop abuse of power and overreach either.
Snowden revealed the paranoid insanity at play that went far beyond necessary cyber defence. What they call ‘world leading capability’ , is in fact just stuff ‘no other country would do that to their own population’.
The worst thing is how people who’ve been calling for Scottish independence since the 1960s and 1970s and UK democratic reform since the mid-late 1990s (me, I became eligible to vote in the 1990s), in the days of Charter 88 (a campaign which advocated for a written constitution) are being branded Kremlin helpers & subversives which is patronising and insulting stuff as I’m sure those pointing the finger know.
Just another means of spying on groups without justification, these groups all predate the establishment’s relatively recent 2013-2021 Russophobia.
When The Revolution has got the right people into power, it’s time to get rid of those who helped them get there. Left-wing, right-wing, East, West, North, South, it doesn’t matter, those are the rules.
When Salmond returns as FM, I hope his first order of business is cancelling this hate crime bill. We’ve reached Chinese levels of censorship, wrapped under camoflage of protecting minorities. Bluntly, I think trans people are, in the main, seriously troubled people, getting bad advice from the medical industry. Future historians will smh at their being encouraged to ‘transition’. This previous sentence doubtless is illegal in Scotland, but tough shit I’m in Australia. I wish no harm to trans people, rather the opposite: I wish they got proper medical advice, and not whatever these ghouls are giving them. Some might think this transphobic (more rhetoric), but I’m too old to care. But it’s definitely not hate, nor is it an actual crime. Nicole is a wrong ‘un, and no mistake.
As to our host’s sinister criminal activity! I wonder if there is a political element involved. After all, the charge is entirely political. Perhaps they are waiting to see if Nicola is forced to resign. Incoming FM Salmond might ask some difficult questions about Craig’s ‘trial’, and I doubt this is a hill they are really willing to die on. Who would? Dumbest charge ever.
The circulation of the lie that Patsy Stevenson, roughed up by the police in Clapham Common, was the same woman as Victoria Holloway, survivor of the 2017 Parsons Green bombing, suggests that professional manipulation is underway, as does the use of the term “crisis actors”. Everyone please say “thank you” to the specialist subunit of the 77th Brigade. It’s not necessarily them – it could be a few others too – but it’s their department. Nor is it easy for radical critics to wrap their head around the idea that the state actually wanted trouble at the demonstration, and pictures like that in the press, BUT at the same time most of the protestors were genuine, admirably protesting against violence against women, and the whole discourse about “crtctors” is crazy Trumpian cr*p. That’s what I call a “911 mix”. I’m told it’s also apparent in the “yellow jackets” movement in France.
The control of opinion regarding “public safety” and regarding the male-female side of social changes as fascism enters its second year – and where the two intersect, which will be a growing area – is by no means a “hobby” for its practitioners.
Where does this go? Well as fascism moves forward, there are bound to be differential responses from men and women. But specific possibilities include…
1) Vaccination against SARS could be pushed on children soon.
After all, today there was the story about Boris Johnson, who is immune, getting the “call” for his vaccine. Even the most fanatical vaccine believer might try to force themselves to realise that immune people don’t need to be vaccinated. Dig that word “call”, by the way. They’re saying it’s like “call-up” in the war-mobilisation sense. You get the call, “It’s your turn now, NHS number #1293010210,” and you report to the office. They say “Roll down your sleeve,” and you don’t ask “How far, Sir?” – you just roll down your sleeve without asking questions.
Some of us remember last year when Jacob Rees-Mogg said we should all sing “God Save the Queen” as we fastidiously washed our hands.
Obviously children don’t need the vaccine, but nor do immune middle-aged adults, but that hasn’t stopped the prime minister.
2) Vaccination could soon be found to have a major negative impact on fertility.
Remember that one of the most widely-read novels in the world, Dan Brown’s “Inferno”, paints biological terrorism that achieves such a goal as a lovely, cuddly, justifiable thing.
Maybe the Roman Catholic church will fall out with Big Pharma? They’ve been in with that area of business in quite a big way, including in many hospitals across much of Europe and in Latin America, but a fallout would be a big thing. (And for a further twist on this, historians in the future may like to consider that Dan Brown is a right WASP.)
Quote : Vaccination could soon be found to have a major negative impact on fertility.
Have you seen Utopia (2013-2014) the UK TV series? There’s also a more recent, but slightly inferior US version on Prime. The plot is strangely and morbidly plausible given worldwide overpopulation a resource competition. Although if it were to happen they wouldn’t be so blatant as to do everyone, it’d be 1 in 10 jabs or something that provides plausible deniability.
I saw David Davis’s speech in full on the floor of the House of Commons. He is one Tory I respect on many issues and suspect his bravery was the main impediment of him ever becoming leader of his party or Prime Minister. He used Parliamentary Privilege for the benefit of Holyrood and said the devolution act had failed to guarantee Separation of Powers between Scottish Parliament and the Executive. The Lord Advocates could and should never be in the Cabinet. The Committee “investigating” this should now give up and refer the matter to the Police forthwith.
He’s right, but it’s a bit rich coming from David Davis, a man who fought the Snoopers’ Charter (IP Act) and is challenging the govt’s decision to drop the Tory, Theresa May promised, and subsequently abandoned, plan for a judge-led inquiry into the hundreds of cases of rendition/torture. He happily served in May’s govt.
What can the Tories, or UK officials with blood on their hands, possibly teach the SNP about ethical behaviour?
Goose. Surely you agree with his proposal of giving the Scottish Parliament the same constitutional position vis a v its Executive that Westminster has in respect of Separation of Powers. He even wants Scottish Members of Parliament to have Parliamentary Privilege and speak with freedom without fear of prosecution for revealing hidden truths.
It would have been preferable for this to have come from a SNP member of Parliament but I guess no one has the balls and will wait till Sturgeon is about to fall and then all jump ship together?
Doesn’t the SNP have blood on its hands by your standards ?
Which are you having N_?
The Chinese Sinopharm developed jab or Sputnik V?
2) Vaccination could soon be found to have a major negative impact on fertility. – my lingering suspicions exactly.
God forbid you express such a thought in most circles. Even my old friend recently gave me “but they’re scientists and they know better than you” spiel. On top of the usual rhetoric that I’m a selfish killer for expressing doubts. To my obvious point that nobody, not even elite scientists, is infallible and that questioning everything is a tenet of liberal democracy, he said, bewildered: “so are we supposed to just doubt everything then??”
Even my old friend recently gave me “but they’re scientists and they know better than you” spiel.
Did you reply “Thalidomide”?
B: ” Did you reply “Thalidomide”?”
Probably not, Jen doesn’t sound like an idiot who thinks simplistic soundbites are the winning answer to complex questions.
Jen, If that is the plan you believe to be true, pray explain why the over 80’s, 70’s, 60’s and soon 50 year olds are the ones being targeted for vaccinations?
They really need to be stopped from their daily fecundity?
DunGroanin, I don’t believe it’s a plan but rather potential for a horrible as-yet unknown, *accidental* side effect. So over-50s need not fear of course. (even if it were an evil plan, wouldn’t it be clever to include everyone if you were targeting the young?)
Bayard, haha I did want to, but I have a thing where I can’t use arguments if I feel they’re getting old. I think the problem is me, reading too much crap from both sides.
Ok Jen look at from the other end of the spectrum – why are Children excluded from the vaccines? Is it because they will never plan to procreate intentionally or otherwise?
I really need you to explain exactly how this great genocide of the future unborn is being carried out. I confess I can’t quite discern it or it’s perpetrators. Who exactly are they?
DunGroanin (for some reason I can’t reply to your last comment directly), as I said I don’t think it’s an evil plan but a potential, unpredictable risk. Science has been wrong before, in fact it is in its nature to evolve based on new, unforeseen data.
(Also there has recently been talk of extending the vaccination programme to children.)
Why is there such hostility towards innocent expressions of doubt? I’d just give it a few months or a year to let the hysteria settle down and see for myself that it’s fine. We’ve just been (and are still going through) unprecedented measures taken against our most basic liberties. Normal that people will lose trust in faceless scientific authority that has become our tyrant and now touts this new vaccine as the *only way out*. Meanwhile, patronising tones or accusations of conspiracy theorising (especially when so many of last year’s theories are coming true before our eyes) will not restore this trust in the slightest.
D: “why are Children excluded from the vaccines? Is it because they will never plan to procreate intentionally or otherwise? “
No, it’s because they very rarely suffer ill effects from Covid-19, and don’t appear to be spreading it around.
Obviously, then, it makes sense to target those most likely to die without the vaccine, in order of greatest risk.
I wonder if there’s anything conspiracy nuts won’t start yelping about. One funny thing is they never come back and admit they’re wrong, or revise their thinking on the basis of more information. Mystic N_eg never does, that’s for sure. He was telling us last year we’d all starve to death by September (2020).
@Jen: There should always be doubt, asking questions is how we get to the best solutions. There are no such thing as stupid questions, as a particularly grim scientist liked to tell me back in the day – just stupid answers.
There should not be “faceless scientific authority” either. The facts, reasoning and data should all be available for anyone to question. Obviously there are aspects of this that are so complicated they require a certain expertise in order to make sense. But we are entitled to question experts, and have them question and verify the work of each other. This is how science works – everything out in the open, precisely so that it can be challenged.
One thing you will find about conspiracy theorists is a complete lack of doubt. “They” are coming to get you. It’s definitely a trick, a con, a conspiracy, and the CTs know the absolute truth – listen to them and follow! They won’t ever get pinned down on specifics, and move right along to the next item, or widen the conspiracy just a little to work so that “they” (governments, medics, media, etc. etc.) are all in on it too.
Look at all the bold assertions Mystic N_eg has written just above. No doubt in any of it! Not only are most of the points flat out wrong, but Mystic N_eg lacks the courage to ever engage on these points.
Clark has written some interesting notes on it here:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/forums/topic/what-is-conspiracy-theory/
Glenn, thank you for some interesting points and I really enjoyed that thread you linked me to, too.
I think the reason that so many people are distrustful nowadays is because nothing has ever looked so much like a conspiracy before (that’s without even considering Bill Gates’s eerie pandemic simulation from a couple years ago).
Where a handful of loudmouths used to chat about political matters they couldn’t possibly know anything about, now vast numbers of people have been forcefully thrown out of their employment, in some cases onto the streets, and separated from their families, friends and comforting social environments.
All for a cause that they don’t actually see in front of them – only what is hysterically shouted at them from their TV screen, which was hardly relatable to their lives in the first place. So it’s only natural that more people will englobe the authorities, experts, and tech companies into a vague “they”, because “they” have overturned people’s lives on a scale absolutely never before seen, and “they” have profited from it extensively. Because of a virus that actually does have a low mortality rate, though its contagiousness is, admittedly, what makes it deadly. To many minds, that does not justify tyrannical rule, but anyone who thinks that is now branded a conspiracy theorist. It’s just not the same as claiming aliens created the pyramids or Bush did 9/11. It’s regular people actually hurting, actually driven out of their minds for a year now.
“Obviously there are aspects of this that are so complicated they require a certain expertise in order to make sense.” – this I bow to completely and it throws a real spanner in my arguments. STILL, I know so many people who have been let down by doctors before and I can understand suspicions in the face of such unquestionable certainty.
And I agree that any airs of absolute certainty are an immediate turn-off in any complex debate.
Concerning doubt, the advice of John Mortimer’s father remains true ”Never believe anything until its been officially denied”
Jen, As you see and say, there is a lot of smoke and mirrors about this major crisis.
That though is how the major beneficiaries of public funds have evolved their strategy over the generations.
Simply – ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ – that means pulling as much magic cash from the Treasury directly into their offshore bank accounts, without having to do any messy delivery of anything for it.
It is a wartime economy where a lot of spivs end up mega-rich and become great political donors from it – just look at how many became major figures after WW2 in the ‘west’.
The truth of this NEW virus is undeniable.
Its spread is noticeable in real time.
Its deadliness too compared to how many die of flu in a year (3-500k).
And as the world approaches 2 million dead and many more physically injured by its diseases for the rest of their lives – it is best to consider how much multiply WORSE it would have been without the mass quarantine measures undertaken.
The scientific effort is real too – I have never seen anything in history as such a global effort by so many experts to and researchers across the world. The ability to create, test and distribute vaccines that offer some immediate protection has been miraculous and shows what us humans can achieve if we are able to direct our resources in this way. The fact that China with its Billion people and Russia with multiple of the U.K. population has developed tested and distributing the various vaccines for a fraction of a cost the spivs are trying to charge, with the west’s big pharma, is the greatest human achievement.
These are some of the silver linings for the future of humanity from this particular crisis.
DunGroanin, I think you’ve put your finger on the key disagreement. I can not contradict what you say about the scientific effort – that has been epic, but it shines a light on the fact that our world now favours cold, hard intellect and scientific progress over simple, earthy notions of human interaction, tradition, religion, all of which go hand in hand with acceptance of death as well…
Many people bemoan the death of these values and don’t think science should take the top role in regimenting our society, clearly the direction we’ve accelerated towards.
Because I know most people would never have thought to suspect their neighbour for the sickness-related death of a loved one until the science came along to tell them that could have been the case and we must all see each other as biological threats.
Because I don’t think that 2m deaths out of 7.5b people over a whole year is shocking enough to warrant global tyranny – I think if you looked at all causes of death over any given year you would start to be alarmed by everything, and maybe make fast food illegal (the #1 cause is coronary heart disease apparently). By the way, plenty of countries with fascistic lockdown measures did just as badly as those with weaker ones, so there’s debate around the efficacy of these measures as well and no 10000% surefire way of saying that deaths would have been so much higher had we not closed down so radically.
Also I think it’s a far cry to say that people will be impacted by long covid for the rest of their lives, considering that we only know about its effects for a little over a year now. That, too, is an assumption touted as fact to manipulate us into shutting down.
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Thanks for the sensible conversation Jen.
I understand the frustrations of people, especially ‘us westerners’ who are habituated to their reality of supposed freedom to do and go where and when they like . Especially the young who have not known anything different and these oldsters who have managed to evolve into a facsimile, pound shop, Jet Set Lifestyle, they have convinced themselves was their choice and now ‘right’ – through their consumption of advertising such as Whickers World and Beach/Ski Holiday programming that kicked of in the 70’s…
The science and rational sides of this argument is essential and needs to be understood – there is no contradiction or more coldness now than there has been through the ages is my opinion.
Quarantine is as old as.
Villages, Castles, Ships!
Even then there would be these who flouted quarantine and make a break to get off-board to swim ashore and get on with their lives rather than wait to be released from that quarantine. They risked and often won death over that fleeting misguided entitled hope. Militias and locals would keep guard over these ships in their ports and bays – to protect their homes and loved ones from the possibility of whatever plague, even as these on board pleaded they were all well or they personally needed to escape the contagion on board!
There is nothing that new about this pandemic ? in that sense. There are many millions through history who have had lives changed by natural and geopolitical events – and been forced to resume after years in refugee states far from their original homelands and best laid plans of forefathers and mothers.
I hope that makes sense.
As you know I am not trying to make this a personal argument but hopefully one that airs the issues for any readers here.
In the meantime I wish you a very happy Equinox – we will meet again some sunny day and be back to normal!
(& hey btw nice blog! ?)
There’s an angle I hadn’t seen before! Thank YOU too, it’s been a refreshing change from the rampant hostility around this debate nowadays. (I see it as the new abortion debate, haha.)
Just wanted to make clear that I’m not fussed about jetsetting and foreign holidays at all, in fact I’m quite anti-globalisation though that’s a different debate altogether. I was unfortunately raised internationally which means that my closest family members all live spread out across the world so that makes travel inevitable, but I wouldn’t advise it to any new families. I guess it’s the old “always want what you can’t have” principle.
I don’t think the right to gather and socialise is part of that spoiled lifestyle though… and my point about cold scientific progress relates to other decisions and narratives that are based on data and stats but completely removed from real life – the reason, to my mind, that so many are losing trust in the media and experts every day.
I’m floored by your point about past quarantines and their deluded flouters, that is a strong one!!! I guess in this situation all I can retort is, after a justified initial panic, we now know it’s not the plague and past societies that were less data-driven would probably have taken less drastic measures in response to this particular virus. But I have been swayed somewhat, so thanks to you DunGroanin for opening my mind.
Haha my blog is full of emotionally charged anti-scientific ranting!! But thank you for checking it out and happy Spring to you too.
BTW, if we’re talking about the future of humanity you might also want to put those deaths in parallel to sharply declining birth rates across much of the western world. This decline has also accelerated over the past year as people lose hope for the future. If there’s little to no beauty in life and nothing to live for but scientific progress, then what’s the point? I guess I’m just a hopeless romantic. But this all stinks of an ugly overreaction to me.
Ah I have a take in this too if you would like to hear it?
Birth rates are a factor of socioeconomics mostly!
Please check the work of the late Prof Hans Rosling at GapMinder.
The birth rates in advancing economies have fallen so critically in some, that only mass immigration can help them in the short term fill the gaps in their economies and social care.
Hey they may even be trialling out the Brave New Worlds babies born in vats to augment the need for us humans to serve them better than robot slaves.
Chuckling re: vat babies. I think I’ll stick to my guns on this one, it only serves as proof to me that we’ve gone too far in our pursuit of intellectual progress and left behind our natural ways, killing off glorious culture in favour of a cold, scientific (and culturally shallow) one that I guess just doesn’t appeal to me. But I’m a hopeless nostalgic and constantly feel I was born in the wrong era.
Mystic N_eg: “ today there was the story about Boris Johnson, who is immune, getting the “call” for his vaccine. Even the most fanatical vaccine believer might try to force themselves to realise that immune people don’t need to be vaccinated.”
Wrong, absolutely wrong. Plenty of people have had C-19 more than once, and the slightest research (20 seconds) would tell you this. Yet you state this falsehood as a categorical fact. Just lazy? Or did you intend to deceive?
Mystic N_eg: “2) Vaccination could soon be found to have a major negative impact on fertility.“
There’s no evidence that it does, and Covid-19 could also be found to have “a major negative impact on fertility”. It has an nasty effect on every other bodily function and organ. Did you think of that? If not, why not?
And so on. Typical Mystic N_eg – bold pronouncements of idle conjecture, and zero courage to follow up with any discussion.
”Wrong, absolutely wrong. Plenty of people have had C-19 more than once, and the slightest research (20 seconds) would tell you this. Yet you state this falsehood as a categorical fact. Just lazy? Or did you intend to deceive?”
Links please.
No doubt ‘Some’ unfortunates have been the victim of the virus more than once. But as far as I’m aware, the numbers have been few. I could of course simply have been looking in the wrong places. 🙂
Also, if one follows the logic of your claim, and assuming that naturally acquired immunity is generally considered to be the best form of such, then a marginally inferior form of vaccine conferred immunity would leave the inoculated open to reinfection ?
You may counter with the argument that the vaccines simply reduce the severity of any infection ? In which case the term vaccine as may be generally accepted could well be a misnomer.
CO: “Links please.”
Sure –
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n99
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-covid-reinfection-rare-seniors-vulnerable.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/reinfection.html
But really, you could have found out yourself – as could anyone else – by searching for “Reinfection with covid”. Beats me why that’s such an ask. We have zero evidence that naturally acquired immunity lasts for very long because this is, as you surely know, a novel virus. The same is true for vaccine-acquired immunity, in fairness.
CO: “[…] and assuming that naturally acquired immunity is generally considered to be the best form of such, […]”
Why assume this? Reasoning with evidence, please. Also kindly note that acquiring immunity (for whatever duration) in this way carries a significant cost on a number of levels – a certain death rate, illness for a duration, a high potential to pass it around, the production of variants in that duration, long covid, and so on.
It may well be that we will require regular boosters for Covid, just as we currently do for Tetanus and for flu variants. It is as yet unknown. But rather than giving way to baseless speculation, we can wait for the evidence and take it from there. Unless you have a better idea on how to proceed…?
All your supplied links seem to say that re-infection is Rare. That’s rather different from saying Plenty of people have been re-infected.
On the aspect of naturally acquired immunity, its fair to say that the scientists you laud so much, have yet to come anywhere close to the wonder of evolution that our own bodies demonstrate. So its a fair bet that a vaccine that merely seeks to replicate parts of the ‘Killer’ virus, cannot be as good as a correctly working immune system.
On booster shots, what you seem to be proposing is the probable annual inoculation of the entire human race ? I would suggest your proposition is fanciful at best, certainly you could argue that any boosters would probably involve a single injection, but even that level of logistical effort is entirely likely to be unsustainable. Even administering the vaccines in the manner that gained emergency use approval, 2 injections three to four weeks apart looks to be a very difficult ask as this point, with governments preferring to go for headline figures no doubt to beguile a frightened public.
Better idea on how to proceed. Its highly probable that faced with a virus that is rapidly adapting to vaccines, we will end up doing something along the lines of the Great Barrington Declaration. Its also entirely likely that the Sars2 virus will simply go away in the manner of every previous pandemic danger to human health.
“its fair to say that the scientists you laud so much, have yet to come anywhere close to the wonder of evolution that our own bodies demonstrate”
Oh, CasualObserver! I have this insecure fear of passing for a madwoman in the current climate, but I could not have put it better myself. It is painful to watch us stray ever further from the incredible gifts bestowed upon us by nature. Sadly, we are already so out of touch with what we once were, medicine seems almost a necessity to keep on top of the carnage of processed, sugary diets, sedentary lifestyles, pharmaceutical interventions, etc. etc. etc. It is another reason I have a naive desire to keep my body as “pure” as possible while it feels like it can cope on its own. It’s like, being in touch with your own internal processes is frowned upon if it means going against the advice of a “trained professional”. God, I could go on and on on that topic. Feels like the more we, as a species, protect ourselves from danger the weaker and sicklier we will get.
Petition started yesterday.
“Do not restrict our rights to peaceful protest”
“The right to peaceful assembly and protest are fundamental principles of any democracy and the proposed part of this bill that gives the police new powers to tackle disruptive peaceful protests should be removed from The Policing, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/579012
It’s like the curtailment of the ‘right to silence’ under John Major’s govt – apparently suspected terrorists were abusing it.
Most people won’t realise what these new powers entail are until they come to try to exercise their right to protest. It’s not even clear the police feel entirely comfortable as a banned peaceful protest could easily become a riot if people feel angry, frustrated and stymied by any controversial or seemingly highly political decision. Try stopping the Iraq war protests for example.
Incidentally, there’s a crowdfunding page to buy Keir Starmer a spine…
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/spineless-starmer
The problem about having a right to peaceful protest is that it is so easy for a peaceful protest to be turned into a non-peaceful one.
“The problem about having a right to peaceful protest is that it is so easy for a peaceful protest to be turned into a non-peaceful one”
It is a fact police agent provocateurs infiltrate the crowds at these protests and activist groups. Afaik there is also at least one private company working in tandem with police at protests, allegedly at the anti Covid restriction protests last year.
“Trained by former police professionals and dedicated to public safety and crime prevention, Front Line TSG® Officers are fully versed in approved methods of law enforcement, tactics and responsibilities. The majority of staff retained by TSG® for deployment are from a Police or other law enforcement background, and have made a conscious decision to work within the TSG® organisation. Our training exercises include a variety of practical scenarios outside the traditional reach. This allows TSG® Officers to engage efficiently and effectively in situations which regular security people are simply not trained to deal with, such as incidents of violence or elevated levels of anti-social behaviour.”
“Here’s a test for you. Take a look at these two images and identify which one is a police officer and which one is a security guard:”
https://interforce.org.uk/tsg-officers/
Craig says:
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I remain wholly supportive of ER; the need to jolt people out of their complacency and inaction over climate change is a massive political priority, and I certainly hope Extinction Rebellion will be back with a bang in the summer.
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Dear Craig – I found your blog through a tweet comment of Steve McIntyre who writes the Climate Audit blog. Like you, he has a forensic eye for evidence. I am surprised that you support the actions of ER and I wonder if you have undertaken any first hand scrutiny of the supposed evidence behind the cries of “climate emergency!”? If not, I suggest you do so.
mcintyre is a long time shill for the fossil fuel industry. they like to hire shills, instead of supporting research that would challenge the science. that’s because when they did, they got results they didn’t want. newsflash, some of the biggest and most powerful corporations on the planet are not helpless victims.
Newsflash – some of the biggest idiots on the internet post pathetic drive by ad homs. Why not let Craig’s own research inform his opinions instead of writing unsupported claims designed to queer the pitch? This blog isn’t for arguing the toss with idiots. Nor is Climate Audit as I’m sure Craig will see, should he care to investigate its long history.
If you (pretzelattack) actually want to read about a current research project which admits and investigates the lack of certainty in “the science” of climate predictions, instead of spreading internet snark, start here:
https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/cloud-shapes-and-formations-impact-global-warming-we-still-don-t-understand-them.html
https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/694768
Then use what you’ve learnt to inform your searches and blog comments.
“If you (pretzelattack) actually want to read about a current research project which admits and investigates the lack of certainty in “the science” of climate predictions, instead of spreading internet snark,…”
AGW has much more in common with a religion than any form of science, thus what you refer to is seen by the adherents of AGW as more of a heresy than a scientific investigation.
B: “AGW has much more in common with a religion than any form of science”
So you apparently like to keep saying, probably because you thought it sounded clever when you first heard it.
The claim that we ‘still not understand’ that our impact on this once fine planet of ours has wrecked the seas with plastic resulted in slowing down the northern and southern thermohaline gulf stream speed, shifted the seasons by at least 3 weeks and resulted in chaotic weatherevents, dire pollution and the mad urge to carry on as usual seems to feed a lot of crackpots out of fossil fuel lobby pockets.
Add to that this message appears here just after a petition link to stop these mad status quo merchants leading us by the nose and stopping free speech and the right to peaceful assembly.
Unsigned my hairy backside.
Humanity is having plenty of negative impact on the Earth, but changing the climate through the burning of fossil fuels isn’t one of them. If just one half of the wasted time, money and effort that has been put into “fighting climate change” had been put into trying to persuade everyone to consume less, then the world would be a much better place.
However, last spring showed what happens to the world economy when we all consume less, and none of the powers that be anywhere in the world want to go there again.
Could I refer the honourable member to the late great George Carlin’s take on humanities place in the ongoing history of the planet. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdSi9NW5u3E
B: “[…] but changing the climate through the burning of fossil fuels isn’t one of them.”
Oh, is that really so? Well that settles the discussion. The bold assertion of an anonymous denialist trumps the scientific consensus any day. No further proof required!
Stevie Boy
March 17, 2021 at 09:56
“Whether she is a part time or full time actress is irrelevant. She wasn’t the only person at the vigil and wasn’t the only person ‘man handled’. There is a bigger picture here that needs to be seen.”
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I agree entirely Stevie. The media are implying that because she is rumoured to be an actress (which I doubt), that what we witnessed in the footage of her manhandling and arrest by the police was merely her overacting to make the police look bad which is bullshit in my view.
The silent vigil for Sarah Everard was rebranded in the media as a protest demonstration that broke the law regarding corona virus restrictions.
On Saturday, the day of the vigil, the Duchess of Cambridge attended, in a private capacity, Presumably with police protection, the same site where the vigil was to be held later.
The Daily Telegraph reported this with an accompanying photograph of her there (not wearing a covid mask).
She obviously wasn’t arrested of fined or cautioned for breaking covid restrictions.
The raid on the vigil was planned ahead of time by the police the government and security services in their drive for authoritarian rule.
Drive for authoritarian rule? Do they face any public, press or political (from Starmer) resistance?
And how do they come out of it in any way enhanced?
A more likely explanation is the heavy-handedness was just poor decision making.
My worry is not so much about the prettiness of the actress and the good fortune to have a professional photographer in exactly the right spot to get feature quality stills, but rather the prettiness of the victim and the scores of similar other crimes the campaigning agenda have skipped over until they found one with all the elements that they found so (un)attractive and went into overdrive.
I remember reading somewhere that people who murder attractive people get longer sentences (on average) than people who murder ugly people…
I’m sorry, Craig, but I must humbly submit that ER is of the same ilk as BLM, in that they are ’protest’ movements that are allowed to happen and given the full spotlight of mainstream coverage. ’To what end?’ one might ask? To create the conditions for more authoritarian action against protest that are not ’sanctioned’ by the Establishment. A quick look into who’s behind such movements should reveal the extent of public manipulation.
There was a discussion earlier on about ” Travellers ” ” Gypsies ” and the Police Crime Bill. It reminded me of the film Chocolat with Juliette Binoche. It also reminded me of the Police laying into a caravan of Solstice goers at Stonehenge. Some people get very angry and talk about freeloaders, rubbish and crime. Their little world of tidy manicured gardens and swept streets, their rubbish is out of sight, dumped in the sea and landfill. Don’t ask about their own tax avoidance and investments in arms industry. Out of sight out of mind. I admire how foxes have to fend for themselves. I admire a band of people born into a community that is always on the move. How brave and adventurous. Not a life for the “majority”. I despise a world that would happily snuff them out. The day will come when we will all be “travellers”. Reminds me of the TV series The Survivors.
Great job at black and white thinking there, Wikikettle.
Why are you conflating all travellers, Solstice “goers” and Gypsies? The latter are known for leaving little trace of their visits.
Not exactly “brave and adventurous” to lay waste to beauty spots and scam trusting locals wherever one goes. Pretty stupid to think all travellers are the same. Quite disingenuous to make out others are saying they are all the same. Downright insulting and dishonest to pretend those who respect their neighbourhoods have a “little world”, which somehow is conflated into tax avoidance schemes and support for the arms industry.
Yup – you definitely could work on that binary thinking there, Wikikettle!
We all live in our own little worlds. That world is a short blip in time and space. We can’t take it with us. It’s like building a house on a bridge which we all have to cross. What did you think of Chocolat? How many ” bad” travellers are there? What is the total value of crime and environmental damage they do? Say compared to Coco Cola? Do you at all get angry at Coco Cola, Glenn_uk?
I wish I could persuade Juliette Binoche to make you some of her liberating chocolates.
Wikikettle
The traveller has a special place in Islam. Travel is beset with unexpected difficulties and the traveller must automatically be helped . My daughter travelled in India for many years before this pandemic came along.
I think the Tories envisage a future where only the rich can afford to travel, but they forget that in previous centuries people would walk to London to seek their fortune. My daughter has a moped in India in a secret location. Secret from.me that is in case I felt the urge to use it.
I have heard that Genghis Khan only attacked the Middle East because his envoys had been badly treated, and when they embraced Islam, the Turks ruthlessly brought dissenters under Islamic rule.
There is a strange irony in Nicola Sturgeon envisaging a Thatcherite devolved Scotland and David Davis using parliamentary privilege to attack the lack of separation in the Scottish administration.
Sturgeon and Lord Advocate awakening the ire of London could have deep consequences for the future of Scotland. The cosy freemasonry of English market towns, has become the norm in Edinburgh.
Something tells me the Tories are going to change that very soon.
I’m afraid I didn’t see Chocolat, Wikikettle – it appeared to be the most awful chick-flick, so I gave it as much distance as I did for “Dear John”.
Coca Cola is a pretty terrible company, IMHO, for all the reasons you doubtless already know. That’s why I never buy their products. Same for McDonalds, for that matter.
I suppose the category of traveller that goes around in the most anti-social fashion should have their own name, and it probably used to be ‘Tinkers’ – although this refers primarily to Irish travellers, and the worst of the anti-social groups appear to come from France and England these days.
I don’t know their numbers, and it’s harder still to tell the numbers of those who do not leave destruction behind. All harm is relative, so I don’t think that’s much of an excuse. Heck, a murderer could say they didn’t do as much harm as Stalin or Blair, so what’s the big deal?
Nevertheless, I do offer apologies to anyone who may have decided to take offence.*
(* Apart from Bayard, who always likes to take offence at anyone who has ever called him out on his nonsense over the years.)
Me-ow.
I suppose it’s no use pointing out that what I have taken offence to is nearly always in the nature of a “drive-by ad-hom” as a previous commentator so neatly put it, rather than any sort of rational argument. Mind you I suppose that’s what “calling out” consists of these days.
“Why are you conflating all travellers, Solstice “goers” and Gypsies? The latter are known for leaving little trace of their visits.”
Because that is what the Police Crime Bill does, it seems. That is what everyone but you is complaining about, tarring an entire group because of the actions of a few bad actors. To make out that you have not seen this from when you made your first comment on the subject makes you look either dim, disingenuous or like a troll.
Bayard
Wikikettle isn’t conflating different groups in a negative light. He lives on a boat and sees similarities between his own and similar lifestyles in a positive light.
For Al I know the govt. might be lumping similar groups together for convenience sake without either positive or negative implications, civil servants not being politically motivated in normal circumstances.
Giyane, my reply was to glenn_uk, not Wikikettle.
you hate travellers glenn uk, and you do not seem to have any idea on how to allow their continued existence. So why don’t you come out with your Endloesung now?
Or f…king live with the fact that you are being led by the establishment, who dont give a flying turd about any of us.
Nevermind: I dislike people who despoil, cheat and freeload. You apparently think that this is just a fine way to behave, and call people who don’t like it bigots.
But you have some cheek calling me a Nazi for that, in particular someone who’s OK with mass murder on the basis of race, and it rather shows how shockingly badly you generalise. A bit of projection on your part, I would say. But you’re telling me that our lovely Tory government doesn’t care about us? No! Say it ain’t so!
Battle Of The Bean Field…..June 1985…..
this is horsecrap. blm is beaten down, protestors are killed, the protests are not “sanctioned”. compare the protests by the bundys’ armed protestors. those protests also received wide coverage, yet only one person was killed by law enforcement. that’s how you know which protests are sanctioned by the government, by how many bodies get piled up afterward. guess what, when armed agents of the state are allowed to get away with murdering people, that often leads to protests.
The latest incredibly humiliating anti-human rights policing measure passed is the fitting of a GPS tracking device to petty thieves released from prison. (Not on parole, mind you. Simply after finishing their term.) I wonder whether wolf whistlers and lockdown breakers will be next? There’s no need for conspiracy theories any more. We’ve living it in this country in the grip of mass psychosis.
100% agree with your take here.
Jen Sanin
Psychosis. The difference between a mental illness and psychosis is whether or not one understands that one’s thinking is abnormal. Yes, the government is playing with our minds, but they have no power over us unless we yield to their pressure. The ability to observe us from our mobile phones and internet use is intimidating, and in my belief, satanic, because it de-humanises a person to spy on them.
A normal human reaction to being spied on is to give the spier the run around, deliberately doing things that are unacceptable, to wind them up.
A society that is constantly suspicious of everything and everybody will not be productive, and maybe that is the intention, to make us powerless zombies.
Nicola Sturgeon claimed she had no reason to ‘get ‘ Salmond. No reason other than vicious psychological bullying imho. We’ll be the judge of power’s motivations.
The truth is that 24/7 surveillance has no actual power at all. We have to overcome our fears and resist the state’s blackmail, like any other form of bullying.
How come Boris Johnson is allowed to pick up an Israeli bimbo and grant her £100K of state aid, but we are not allowed to steal a vitamin D tablet from a supermarket shelf that our body needs?
Ian Duncan Smith, the great strangler of welfare benefits to the poor, has access to all the corporate financial scams of the rich. Nasty little man, always posturing in the empty House of Commons.
Thank you Giyane, that makes perfect sense. I guess it is how we have always lived, skirting the arbitrary rules as we can. I say mass psychosis because so many people actually seem to be calling for more and more excessive safety measures at the expense of liberty and dignity, particularly since the mass fear campaign that has been covid.
“A society that is constantly suspicious of everything and everybody will not be productive, and maybe that is the intention, to make us powerless zombies.” Maybe it can be productive in a shallow, corporate sense. Dull people down to a daily work-jog-Netflix routine, tell them they’re absolutely safe from harm and reap the benefits of docile workers. Maybe I’m just going mad but I can’t unsee it.
“it is now nearly seven weeks since my hearing for contempt of court, with no sign of a judgement, “
Craig is being hung out to dry, punished by delay and treated like Julian Assange.
Lady Dorian can prevaricate for a long time, perhaps years before handing down an adverse judgment.
The delay ensures renewed shock, leaves Craig’s defence in disarray (to reduce the effectiveness of an appeal) and reduces the victim’s quality of life.
Rotten to the core but standard practice in the legal industry.
There is no conceivable justification for such a delay.. It is preposterous and plainly punishment for daring to expose the fiit up of Salmond by the Murrells and their corrupt placeholders across government and the legal system.
Greg Park
Surely the delay is beneficial to Craig, because it’s taking a long time for the lies of Sturgeon and Wolffe to unravel. The wheels of justice are slowly grinding the truth out of the pack of SNP lies. An SNP that has got used to Edinburgh and Westminster corruption as the norm.
The longer this process continues, the more likely Sturgeon will have to resign.
One might imagine that the jurists are waiting to see which way to Jump ?
Should Ms Sturgeon be censured to the extent that the plotters against Salmond find themselves in the Klaart, then a guilty verdict against CM would bring the Scottish judicial system into danger of ridicule?
These are very dangerous proposals indeed. Freshly cooked from the witches’ cauldron. No more juries to make ‘mistakes’. I wonder what would have been Alex Salmond’s fate under such a system. I think we all know the answer to that one. Scotland gets more Kafkaesque by the minute.
“Specialist courts could be set up for sex crimes. The review suggests a number of ways the judicial system could be improved
Specialist courts should be set up to deal with the most serious sex crimes, a review has recommended.
The national “trauma-informed” court would have sentencing powers of up to 10 years imprisonment.
The move is part of a proposed shake-up of how Scotland’s courts deal with rape and other sexual offences cases.
Other proposals include the presumed use of pre-recorded evidence and consideration of a pilot scheme to hear rape trials in front of a single judge.
Lord Justice Clerk Lady Dorrian led the review panel which included Rape Crisis Scotland, Scottish Women’s Aid, Victim Support Scotland and the Crown Office.
Among the panel’s other ideas are for juries to be given “plain language directions” with a pilot programme looking at how jurors can be told about rape myths and stereotypes.
The right for the complainer not to be identified should also be expressly set out in legislation rather than relying on the current convention, the group recommended.
Lady Dorrian told BBC Scotland she hoped the proposals would improve the way cases are handled for complainers, the accused and witnesses.
She said: “We decided that we really needed to start from the ground up. If we started afresh what would the court to deal with these cases look like?
“We have made recommendations which we believe will fundamentally change and improve the way sexual offences are prosecuted in Scotland.”
Lady Dorrian said increasing conviction rates in sex crime cases “was not a driving force” behind the group’s recommendations.
At the proposed specialist court, cases would be presided over by a combination of High Court judges and sheriffs who had received trauma-informed training in the presentation of evidence of vulnerable witnesses.
Similar training for prosecutors and defence agents would include accredited courses in dealing with vulnerable witnesses and the use of examination techniques
Lord Justice Clerk Lady Dorrian said changes were needed because of the growth in volume and complexity of sexual offending cases
The dedicated court would have sentencing powers of up to 10 years’ imprisonment with a provision for remit to the High Court for longer sentences if required.
The group also put forward proposals for evidence from complainers in serious sexual offence cases to be recorded by specially trained police officers as early as possible after an alleged incident.
‘Significant action is needed’
Sandy Brindley, chief executive of Rape Crisis Scotland, said: “All too often survivors tell us that the process of seeking justice – and in particular their experience in court – is as least as traumatic as the attack itself.
“It is clear that significant action is needed.
“The recommendations are bold, evidence based, and have the potential to transform Scotland’s response to sexual crime.”
Crown Agent David Harvie said: “The introduction of a specialist sexual offences court would be an important step towards meaningful improvement in the delivery of justice in Scotland, for complainers, for accused, for society as a whole and is one that I fully support.”
However, Solicitor Advocate John Scott QC warned against a move away from jury trials in a bid to allay fears over rape myths and stereotypes.
He told the BBC’s Good Morning Scotland programme: “We can and should improve the process.
“But if we change our system with a specific aim of increasing the conviction rate, then I think we skew it in a way that is very unsafe and worrying.
“We don’t have an evidence base that justifies abandoning juries, which allows the unconscious bias we all have to be evened out between 15 people.”
The recommendations will now be considered by the Lord Justice General, Lord Carloway and the next Scottish government formed after May’s election”
I believe the ‘specialist domestic violence court’ has a 100% conviction rate or a 100th of a percentage point below it at most. It would be safe to assume that we can expect a similar conviction rate from these courts although Lady Dorrian did say increasing conviction rates in sex crime cases “was not a driving force” behind the group’s recommendations. It would be preposterous to suggest that Sandy Brindley and ‘Rape Crisis’ would set out to destroy the lives of as many men as possible.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56435743
How stupid do they think we are? This is so transparently a reaction to losing the case against Alex Salmond that it would serve well as a window pane.
All possible amendments are on the table EXCEPT anonymity for the accused up to delivery of a verdict. Strange that?
Who gets to define “rape myths”? The provocatively named Rape CRISIS! Scotland, of course.
So a jury (if a jury is even permitted) is “coached” at the outset of the trial to predetermine their disposition towards the accusations.
Scotland is certainly turning into a truly authoritarian, scary place.
that sounds like an accused person has no rights to presumed innocence until s/he is found guilty, with all the resulting publicity hounding that person.
Bravo, the first steps to fascism have been laid.
“It would be preposterous to suggest that Sandy Brindley and ‘Rape Crisis’ would set out to destroy the lives of as many men as possible.”
But, but, isn’t it the case that members of the SNP Coven are involved with ‘Rape Crisis’ and wasn’t it ‘Rape Crisis’ that commented that they thought Alex Salmond had ‘got away with it’ after he was found innocent by a court of law ?
Whilst it is understandable that women affected by abuse may not have a very high regard for men in general, one would expect a government funded organisation to maintain a different fairer position based on facts and not generic blame.
So, IMO, it is not preposterous to suggest that Sandy Brindley and ‘Rape Crisis’ may very well set out to destroy the lives of as many men as possible.
@ Stevie Boy I suspect that Maggie is being sarcastic. Her remark seems worded in a way to avoid falling foul of Humza’s ‘hate speech laws’. We are going to have to get used to couched speech in Humza’s Scotland. It’s the ‘new normal’. I could write plenty about Sandy Brindley and ‘Rape Crisis’ too but don’t want a knock at the door either. It is factually true that ‘Rape Crisis’ libelled the boxer Mike Tyson. Mike could have bankrupted this ‘small struggling charity’ but had a change of heart. I wonder if Mike now regrets that decision, but I suspect it wouldn’t have made any difference since the Scottish Government would have bailed them out in any case. ‘Rape Crisis’ appears to be unique as a charity since it receives £0 in donations, legacies etc. The only benefactor of ‘Rape Crisis’ appears to be Scottish Government; in fact is appears solely funded by Holyrood. The head honcho of this ‘charity’ Sandy Brindley has made a cushy living for decades pushing this toxic anti-man agenda. I can still remember her sat behind a desk in dungarees and a shaven head on the TV when I was much younger. She came across as a right venomous misandrist positively dripping with malice towards men and boys. A complete ‘nutjob’ as they say. We used to remark that she looked like a right oddball and speculated that she was in fact a lesbian. ‘Sandy’ has now ‘softened’ her image for the TV cameras somewhat. Her remarks about Alex ‘getting off’ were disgusting! This drip-drip attack on men has been going on for decades. It is truly frightening that someone who clearly has issues and is mentally unwell is dictating Scottish Government legislation. Alex Salmond should have taken the opportunity to crush these vermin when he was in office – once and for all. But instead he played to them to a certain degree. In hindsight, maybe he regrets his decisions. But hindsight is an exact science as they say. But let’s not hold that against Alex. This latest vindictive anti-man manoeuvre makes me even more glad that these evil entities never got their way, that the jury saw through the whole charade, and that an innocent man is not now rotting in a prison cell.
I’ll just add the only part of the Scottish Legal System that doesn’t appear to be corrupted is the jury selection process because if it was then obviously Alex Salmond would be in a prison cell. I am truly amazed that they didn’t manage to rig this part of the process.
It wouldn’t have been for want of trying though.. 😉
‘Rape Crisis’ have been caught time and time again putting out fake statistics, skewed surveys and misleading ‘research’ time and time again. ‘Rape Crisis’ is a force for evil.
A Great Soul
The never elected, the unjust, the scumbags that lord it over us, the slave masters for their Ancient Bosses. They have nothing better than their Old Imperial Playbook to use upon our host.
As one of their line of racist, sociopathic CEO’s through history, Winnie the Poo, attempted to do to Gandhi.
First they ignored him. Then they ridiculed him. Then they fought him. Then they lost!
They tried again and yet again they failed. A Mahatma is raised amongst us slaves again.
Mahatma Murray!
My point being, the current inexplicable hiatus seems to be a return to the Ignoring gambit.
Well Asa Winstanley of electronic intifada and now Daily Maverick has batted it out of the park with this expose on spy cops.
The reach and depth of the security services is terrifying to read
Craig will find it particularly interesting
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-03-16-britains-secret-political-police/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Read that too. The upshot appears to be that despite the scandals surrounding sexual impropriety and the commission of criminal acts by undercover cops, and an ongoing inquiry into the same. The ptb have by virtue of the CHIS Act, and Policing Bill sought to close any loopholes, and batten down the hatches to ensure business continues as uninterrupted as usual.
Shatnersrug
Commenting on CM blog is the only public thing I do to irritate the purple state. But the occupant of the house next door who was facilitating spying on me wanted to move, so a new buyer was found to do the job properly.
Craig only allows me to say that on here because other whistle blowers have provided evidence of that possibility. As is normal in legal action , one tiny sample of ” unacceptable ” behaviour is being used against him, on the flimsiest of pretexts, because the state’s real objections cannot be made public without blowing the lid completely off the intelligence agency pressure cooker.
The state stinks like an abattoir where millions of skeletons from millions of cupboards are boiled up and made, like Bacolite into MSM useful narratives.
For what it’s worth I don’t believe a word in the MSM.
Bollywood scriptwriters. I don’t think anybody else in the world believes it either. Other than as a soap drama to cogitate over.
Let’s look at two arrests for suspicion of murder in the last week.
1) Wayne Couzens who allegedly murdered Sarah Everard is in custody in Belmarsh prison. I don’t know if anyone asked for bail, but if they did it has been denied.
2) An unnamed man was arrested in Cheshire yesterday on suspicion of a sexual murder of Stuart Lubbock at the home of
the entertainer Michael Barrymore in 2001. Stuart’s internal and anal injuries were so horrific, a documentary in 2020 could
not release the images to the public.
The point of this comment is that the man arrested in connection to Stuart’s brutal murder has been released on bail, but Wayne Couzens is in Belmarsh.
Have a look at this article from the Telegraph in 2017
“Michael Barrymore paid off two witnesses not to give evidence over pool death, court hears”
https://web.archive.org/web/20170602032823/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/michael-barrymore-paid-two-witnesses-not-give-evidence-pool/
Question: why does it take the Police over 20 years to satisfactorily address the Barrymore Case ? Given it was all over the Press at the time, destroyed his career and virtually every element of the case is known and in the public domain – is this plain incompetence or just the Police vindictively making sure they ‘get their man’ ?
Just saying …
Can we talk about the role of freemasonry and the police? Or is it all secret?
The Guardian exposed the London Met back in 1997
The Guardian: Freemasons in the Police (Published January, 1997)
“These Masons have one thing in common, they are all policemen”
https://www.nickdavies.net/1997/01/29/freemasons-in-the-police/
Also worth consideration is the number of senior Police Officers who are religious zealots. For such people it is ‘normal’ to be misogynistic, racist and homophobic.
Well I have my answer about the email(s) DD referred to, via the WoS publishing the full Advice by Counsel to the SG that led to the explosive revelation of the correspondence between the conspirators and the Police.
The QC even offered to bury other harmful revelations by making them ‘nugatory’ , such as the failure of Precognition of Evans as directed by counsel.
‘ Precognition in Scots law is the practice of taking a factual statement from witnesses by both prosecution and defence after indictment or claim but before trial. ’
Read it here:
JOINT NOTE BY SENIOR AND JUNIOR COUNSEL for the Respondents in the Petition of Alex Salmond, Petitioner, for Judicial Review (pdf file – 726KB).
It also proves that NS just lied again!
She is determined to burn Atlanta in the forthcoming election as she straps on the kamikaze head band.
There is no choice for Holyrood now except whatever version of Impeachment it has.