The Twitter Hack 163

The hack of my X Twitter account was definitely intended to reduce my reach on Palestine, it took place while the security services have possession of my electronics and access to my account, and it involved either complicity by Twitter or a security service backdoor.

I have now had to involve lawyers and prepare for legal action against X to get my Twitter account back. It took me 15 years to build up 138,000 followers despite continual suppression and shadow banning. Some of my individual tweets on Palestine were gaining over 10,000 likes. Subscriptions to this blog were increasing.

I understand why action has been taken to destroy all that, just as I understand why a laughable “terrorism” investigation against me has been launched to disrupt my work and try to put me back in jail. I must be achieving something, or they wouldn’t take all this trouble. I intend therefore to bash on.

When my account was hacked, the first thing that was done, immediately, was to change the password and then put out a tweet in support of Hitler and the Holocaust in my name. That is how I know that the motivation was related to the current genocide in Palestine.

I know that either Twitter complicity was involved or a security service backdoor into Twitter because the “hacker” was able, within ten minutes, to change the password, email and the very name and identity of the account, from to @matthuag. Twitter automatically blocks you from making all those changes at the same time, for obvious reasons. Also the identity of the account was changed while still retaining the blue verified tick, which is also not normally possible.

It is also consistent with Twitter complicity that despite my reporting the hack to X support within five minutes of the password being changed, and reminding them repeatedly ever since, there has been no response other than automated ones from X Support. Furthermore another victim of this crime, the real @matthuang, has also reported to Twitter the appearance of the fake @matthuag account from the renaming of @craigmurrayorg, impersonating him. Matt Huang also, a person of some note, has been unable to obtain any response from Twitter.

It is a matter of simple fact that X or Twitter employs numerous ex members of the US, UK and Israeli security services. The only thing in doubt about that statement is the “ex”.

It seems to me entirely possible that this action was undertaken by, or at the behest of, the police or security services, in order to bolster the “terrorism” accusation against me by the crazy pro-Hitler tweet. At the time of the tweet they held – and still do – my seized mobile phone. They seized my laptop and cloned it before returning it to me. They had direct access to my Twitter account at the time this was done.

Furthermore my solicitors reported the hack, and the pro-Hitler tweet, to Police Scotland at the time it happened. Police Scotland have shown no interest at all. I would remind you that this is the police force that prosecuted a man for training his dog to give a Nazi salute online. But they have no interest in discovering who sent out a tweet supporting Hitler and the Holocaust?

A final thought. After the hack and the pro-Hitler tweet, it is my strong suspicion that the account was offloaded or sold to other people entirely, who made the change to @matthuag for the purpose of perpetrating some kind of identity fraud on Matt Huang. This appears an entirely different kind of crime and motivation. Otherwise the original hackers could have simply done it to hide their tracks and motivation. Whoever now controls the account appears to lack either the ability or the motivation to disconnect the Twitter API which posts notification of new articles here direct to the account.

I have now asked the lawyers to consider action against the police.

I am sorry to say all this continues to come with a large financial cost, which is of course not an accident. The imposition of constant financial drain through legal and other attacks is a fundamental part of the state system of suppressing dissent. Our only defence against that is horizontal solidarity which shares the cost among hundreds of us. I do plead with the 98% of readers of this blog who still do not subscribe to see if you can afford a small amount – it can be less than a cup of coffee a month. But please do not contribute if it causes you any financial hardship at all.


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163 thoughts on “The Twitter Hack

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    • Claire

      Time to join the Fediverse! Decentralised social media, ad-free, open access not walled garden… controlled by & for communities. As an improvement on Twitter, I recommend a Mastodon account, which can be read by anyone on the Fediverse, or with a browser or RSS feed… & many of us have in practice found higher levels of engagement on the Fediverse.

      • SleepingDog

        @Claire, yes, that is much more in line with the original design of the Web. The theory and technology are also useful to understand. I haven’t had either a Twitter or Mastodon account, though, and I don’t know how search engines treat each (equally? depending on each Mastodon server administrator policy?).

  • iain

    The pro-Hitler tweet was as comically crude as the empty “Medical Supplies” boxes being passed into Al-Shifa hospital. It strongly suggests you were hacked by Mossad.

  • Concerned Observer

    Hi Craig, you’re an inspiration. I’m sorry to hear of your personal troubles; it must be very hard for you at the moment. It’s chilling to join the dots and realise that the UK state, Secret Services (Mossad)/MI5 and X are potentially working together to suppress dissent/facilitate and commit genocide. Hopefully, the legal approach will loosen some of the binds but I admit my faith in “justice” is in the Armitage Shanks. Keep telling the truth, it is indestructible. I am humbled by your bravery.

    • MFB

      Yes, only an insane person could imagine that a highly complicated electronic hack of a supposedly almost invulnerable global social media system conducted immediately after the secret police obtained his electronic equipment, a hack intended to politically discredit him, was intended to harm him.

      Nothing to see here, Dolly, Dolly, Dolly and Dolly. Move on to the shearing sheds.

    • Jm

      A fantasist who has already spent time in prison David? How does that work in your little troll mind? Did your line manager order you to write that?

      • nevermind

        David is jealous that Craig could be getting more empathy for his case, than the poor punished Zionist gang that is killing thousands of children in Gaza, whilst whining for sympathy around the world.
        Your star is broken, shattered David, go sit in the corner and weep.

    • C avery

      I don’t quite agree but more articles on other matters would be welcome. At the moment the blog seems to be about the writer and his mate with the occasional filler.

  • Jack

    I know that either Twitter complicity was involved or a security service backdoor into Twitter because the “hacker” was able, within ten minutes, to change the password, email and the very name and identity of the account, from to @matthuag. Twitter automatically blocks you from making all those changes at the same time, for obvious reasons. Also the identity of the account was changed while still retaining the blue verified tick, which is also not normally possible.

    I do not use Twitter but what is the time limit to make these changes? Like, if you change the password, how long to do have to wait before changing email and so on?

    Hackers use all sorts of tricks to penetrate systems, there might be a loophole taken advantage of by an autonomous (outside of Twitter) hacker or that your password simply have been leaked, I think one should be wary of pointing out who the culprit is at this stage. That hacker most likely read this blogpost of yours and might take advantage to remove any further trace of his hack based on what you are saying.

    I think this twitter comment is also interesting , I do not know if you ever read it before it was deleted but someone posted on your account saying along the line that he was not the hacker and he asked you to check your blog email or something similar. Who was that? Was it the hacker trying to gain further access or another person that had access to your account?

    • craig Post author

      I am not sure what the precise time limit is for changing other things once you have changed either the password or email, but it appears to be at least 24 hours. It was all done within ten minutes, which is certainly within the suspension. Three people have tried to replicate changing everything at once on spare accounts they have, and nobody has been able to do it.

      Once the hackers had changed the account to @matthuag, the original name @craigmurrayorg became again available. A supporter kindly grabbed it to prevent any malicious actor from doing so. It is not relevant to the original hack.

      People who claim there is nothing particularly sinister happening here are either malicious actors or just suffer from cognitive dissonance. It is extraordinary how many people want to believe the state is benevolent and doesn’t do this kind of thing,

      • Kacper

        [ Mod: As mentioned previously, the email address you’ve been entering has been used by other people and is now reserved. The email address field is not visible to other readers, but it determines the distinctive gravatar image displayed next to your name. You’ll have to adopt a more distinctive email address. (Either of those used for your former geographical name would do fine.) ]

      • Colin Alexander

        Some people have also noticed their X account is put in lockdown mode if they log in via an IP address that is significantly different from their usual one, such as when it’s a different country or they use a VPN that uses a foreign IP address.

  • nevermind

    As of yesterday, the new space polluting x owner has declared his support for Israel’s activities. This will only increase the mountain you have to climb, sadly.
    I very much appreciate that you are keeping your fangs permanently lodged in fighting the truth. Send you 100,- .Take good care.

    • Tom Welsh

      Yes, I was disappointed to hear (through UK Column) of Elon Musk’s frolics in Israel and his refusal to visit Gaza.

      Another person about whom I was unsure, but who is now definitely on the “rotten” list. Or is Mr Musk Jewish? If so, that explains his behaviour.

    • Clark

      “As of yesterday, the new space polluting x owner has declared his support for Israel’s activities.”

      Just the first stage of His (irony not typo) new rocket design burns several thousand of tonnes of methane in the ~150 seconds before stage separation, and he’s planning to be launching it twice a day. There’s about half a trillion dollars worth of methane under the coast of Gaza. I do wish he’d design a hydrogen powered first stage, but it’d be bigger and more expensive.

      • Lapsed Agnostic

        The gas in the Gaza Marine field is only worth about $15 billion at current western European prices, Clark – assuming all of it can be extracted. I was wondering myself about why SpaceX is using methane in the 1st stage of its Super Heavy Rocket rather than ordinary RP-1 rocket fuel. Apparently, it’s mainly because, in the future, they want to make methane on Mars to power their rockets. But why don’t they just use hydrogen instead? I couldn’t find a quick answer online, so I put it to ChatGTP. Here was the response:

        ‘SpaceX’s plan to make methane for rocket fuel from CO2 and water on Mars is based on the idea that it would be more efficient to use locally-sourced materials rather than transporting fuel from Earth. Methane is a simpler molecule than hydrogen and oxygen, so it can be produced more easily using the available resources on Mars. Additionally, methane has a higher energy density than hydrogen, so it can provide more energy per unit of weight. This is important when launching spacecraft from the surface of Mars, as it would require less fuel to be transported from Earth. Overall, using locally-sourced materials for rocket fuel production would be more cost-effective and sustainable in the long term.’

        Dear oh dear. Methane is a simpler molecule than hydrogen? Methane has a higher energy density than hydrogen? Che?? I asked it: ‘Why is SpaceX planning to make methane for its rocket fuel from CO2 and water on Mars when it’s simpler to make hydrogen from water?’ not ‘Can you write a paragraph about why SpaceX is planning to make methane for its rocket fuel from CO2 and water on Mars when it’s simpler to make hydrogen from water, in the style of a 14-year-old who’s reasonably literate but knows next to nothing about science?’ And it probably would be cheaper just to transport RP-1 from Earth. Now he’s back at OpenAI, Sam Altman really needs to sort things out.

        • Mighty Drunken

          Methane is much cheaper than hydrogen and easier to store. To get to Mars will require a normal launch of the 1st stage Super Heavy and Starship. Then launching multiple 1st stages (I think 7) to refuel the original 1st stage. So fuel depots are a big part of the plan, especially as a mission to Mars would probably be on Mars for months before returning.
          A hydrogen rocket would have lost its fuel by evaporation over that time.

          • Lapsed Agnostic

            Thanks for your reply MD. On Earth, methane is cheaper than hydrogen because there’s much more of it in the ground (though hydrogen would be cheaper than it is now if there were more demand for it). This is probably not the case on Mars. The only reason I can think for using methane on Mars is that the energy cost of liquifying hydrogen vs methane is greater than the cost of extracting CO2 from its tenuous atmosphere and of cooling the methane generated via the Sabatier reaction, but I don’t have time to make rough estimates of the numbers. It could just be a case of Elon saying: “Hey guys! I’ve had a great idea…” I doubt whether much hydrogen would be lost via evaporation if it was in a well-sealed vessel as a liquid.

          • Bayard

            “(though hydrogen would be cheaper than it is now if there were more demand for it).”

            Like, if we went back to burning hydrogen in our domestic boilers (although not mixed with CO any more).

        • Scott

          Easiest way to explain this, is the number of atoms that can be stored in a cubic meter. Even though a kg of hydrogen produces 2.5 times the energy of a kg of methane, since hydrogen is much less dense than methane it requires vastly greater storage capacity. Not good for a spaceship carrying fuel around.

          There is also the problem that since hydrogen has lower molecular weight than methane, it is extremely difficult to transport without leakage (those smaller molecules can fit through any gaps in the storage vessel).

          Here’s a source that explains:

          NB. Natural gas pipelines currently lose between 1.5% – 4% of methane on the way to the customer. So it gives you an idea of how difficult it would be to use hydrogen at scale.

          • Lapsed Agnostic

            Thanks for your reply Scott, and for the link. Hydrogen is less energy dense per unit volume than methane, but that shouldn’t be a huge issue, because you need less of it to accelerate your rocket to a given speed since it’s lighter and much of the weight of the rocket is fuel. You also need less liquid oxygen. This is particularly the case when you have little atmospheric resistance, as on Mars, which was why liquid hydrogen was chosen as the fuel for the upper stages of the Saturn V rockets.

            Hydrogen molecules are not that much smaller than methane ones; helium atoms are smaller than both. During what passed for my career, I used to use GC-MS machines, which required helium gas from small cylinders that had an initial pressure of 200 bar (roughly 200 x atmospheric pressure), which had simple screw openings that were hand-tightened with a small spanner by me (who was a willowy thing at the time). They used to last for years & years and the needle on the small gauge at the top barely moved in months. In the UK, we were using hydrogen at scale before the 1970’s, because 50-60% of town gas was hydrogen. I’d imagine that up to 4% of natural gas is lost in pipelines because the companies that run them are more interested in maximizing short-term profits than fixing leaks, even though those will be making a big contribution to the global warming that the head of Abu Dhabi’s national oil company is so concerned about.

      • Nigel

        Clark, it is not Elon Musk’s new rocket design. He doesn’t do anything of any significance at these firms – he’s like Steve Jobs of Apple fame: all the work (design, innovation, engineering) done by others – which is why he’s got the time to gallivant around the world and endlessly run his mouth on Twitter. He didn’t found Tesla, but bought it; he didn’t create PayPal – his company was merged with it. As for Neuralink, he’s been a largely absent CEO.

    • ARB

      From The Guardian
      Hearing Netanyahu describe the destruction of Hamas, which Israel has set as a war goal, as necessary for any prospective peace with the Palestinians, Musk sounded his general agreement. “Those that are intent on murder must be neutralised,” he said. “The propaganda must stop that is training people to be murderers in the future.”

      I think he meant that in more ways than Netanyahu realised.

      Musk: “What this advertising boycott is going to do is, it is going to kill the company,” he said on Wednesday. “And the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company.”

      He also said in an interview “If someone’s going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fck yourself.”

      The “advertisers” are the same cabal that has now gone after Craig Murray. All roads of evil always lead back to the same place.

  • Ian

    Best of luck, Craig, though I am not sure what your lawyers can do when Musk just ignores your requests and hides behind US barriers to justice.
    He is such a small-minded hypocrite. Once his antisemitism was exposed, he was then groomed and manipulated by the Israeli lobby into ‘demonstrating’ his support, not for Jews, but for the Israeli state propaganda machine. Priyamvada Gopal, a prominent commentator on Palestinian affairs, has been cancelled on X, so you can see the way the wind is blowing. This is from the nerd who promised us uncensored free speech, which turned out to be largely access to X for the rightwing conspiracy theorists on his platform, and the promotion and reward for their activities, spreading hate, division and lies. He craves attention and power, and the Israelis were happy to provide it as long as he dutifully bent the knee for them. The obvious danger of having social media in the hands of unprincipled, inadequate nerds has become obvious, especially through its impact on what few outlets for freedom and democracy we have.

    • craig Post author

      The route to a court case against Twitter International in Ireland appears fairly clear. Of course the Irish Establishment has a strong interest in defending the various cyber crooks who have paper HQs there.

      • Ian

        Thanks for clarifying that. At least Ireland is one of the few principled states in Europe which has taken a stand against Israel’s lies and deceit, although that probably won’t factor into the legal arguments over who owns accounts and what rights those owners/users have. in that respect it could be a defining case with important ramifications for all of us. That in turn deserves support from users of all backgrounds who wish to protect their social identities and freedom to speak, and I hope people will realise that, especially those with deeper pockets than the rest of us. Wishing you well, and thankyou for taking a stand.

      • Goose

        You’ve not mentioned anything about other precautions you took, such as any two factor authentication & method and type of 2FA? For someone like yourself – high profile, an establishment irritant, a username and password isn’t enough.

        If / when you do get your account back, securing it with a Yubikey or generic equivalent seems essential. Even if seized at customs, it closes down the plausible deniability avenue for those illicitly accessing your account. Get two, clone one and keep it in a safe place. You can even generate a new random key, if you believe it compromised.

    • zoot

      Louis Allday has also been kicked off X for condemning Musk’s capitulation to the ADL and Netanyahu.

      (Louis is a writer for the Electronic Intifada and co-wrote the piece I linked to on the last blog, on zionism’s collaboration with Nazism).

    • Goose

      Difficult to know exactly where he stands. Musk and X are currently being hounded by various sketchy organisations that despise free speech. These groups are trying to destroy X (Twitter) by targeting its advertising revenue. Without which, the platform (staff, server running costs) are no longer economically viable. I’d imagine it’s cold, hard financial calculation for him. As rich as he is, X (twitter) is a considerable investment.

      Remember, Musk allowed Matt Taibbi access to internal communications. Taibbi revealed that alleged ‘Russian’ meddling and ‘disinformation’ scares were hugely overblown for political reasons. And that execs were being put under pressure to back these false narratives, that politicians and the media were pushing during the investigation into Trump.

      He probably has the freedom he has, because of Space X’s success and its importance to the US military.

  • SleepingDog

    My sympathies lie with innocent victims of identity theft and abuses of state-capital power, but in the case of Twitter/X, this power has rather weakly been conceded to its controllers by its users. The worldwide web was actually designed to avoid these kinds of information monopolies and concentrations, but convenience (I guess) has let to a cheap mass capitulation. There are open-source alternatives to commercial social media platforms, but perhaps a gap in popular understanding of the principles and technologies behind the difference.

    • Tom Welsh

      In a well-run, fair world social media would be unnecessary, as the traditional media would freely publish all points of view and all news.

      Now that the traditional media has been bought up and esentially turned into state mouthpieces, social media are having to carry a load for which they were never designed and to which they are unsuited. And of course they too are owned and controlled by fat cats who wish to avoid being skewered by governments.

      On the bright(er) side, this morning I was struck by inspiration. I invented a new and useful acronym:

      ATCOTIRAP – “a tiny clique of the insanely rich and powerful”.

      Try it, you’ll like it. And it will save you no end of time and keystrokes.

      • SleepingDog

        @Tom Welsh, I think that misses the point of social media, and of the Web as designed (to be decentralised etc). If each person has something to say, how can traditional media mediate that? The Web was designed for our flawed world, as an improvement. It really has nothing to do with tech billionaires who came along much later and hardly contributed anything to its architecture.

        • Tom Welsh

          The Web is one thing (and it is actually an optional layer on top of the Internet). Social media are yet another optional layer on top of the Web. There is no reason why the people of the world should not communicate fully and richly through the Web in the form of blogs such as this one.

          Social media is an attempt to monetise the Web, and as such to be deplored. I am proud to have no social media accounts (apart from an inactive LinkedIn one dating from about 20 years ago – or whenever LinkedIn was founded).

          • SleepingDog

            @Tom Welsh, this here blog is an example of social media. It does not have to have a monetary component. Anyway, sending handwritten letters has a monetary component, assuming paid-postage, but what of that? Perhaps we should pay more for our media anyway. Our host is frankly of that opinion.

          • Tom Welsh

            SleepingDog, I disagree with your definition of “social media”. And the Wikipedia page to which you link is a hopeless mess of undefined abstractions whose only clear statement is that there is disagreement.

            I have been using, studying, and writing about computer networks since 1980, and I have carefully followed the evolution from ARPAnet to Internet to World Wide Web and the so-called “Web 2”. In my considered opinion it is useful to apply the term “social media” to large corporate Web sites such as Facebook, Twitter/X, etc. because such large organised systems work in a distinctly different way from personal Web sites such as this blog.

            The main difference, probably, is the old insight that “if you are using a site like Facebook free of charge, you are the product”. The big social media sites have a definite business plan which involves selling their users’ data to anyone willing to pay. I don’t think Mr Murray does that. Anyone who contributes to his costs through this site does so in the full awareness of what they are doing, and nothing but money changes hands.

          • Clark

            The wise old owl sat on the oak,
            The more he heard the less he spoke,
            The less he spoke the more he heard,
            Wasn’t he a wise old bird?

            See Claire’s comment above.

  • harry law

    Craig’s troubles are a direct manifestation of his being on the correct side of history, in this instance his recognition of the Zionist Genocide taking place in Palestine and his repugnance of Western Leaders approval of it. This is anathema to them, to resist oppression in this case survival is the correct thing to do, it is in the nature of the human condition [if you have any self respect] to do so. The UK government have put in place legislation which goes against this human instinct, that legislation is both wrong morally and against UN Resolutions on the legality of armed resistance, it also states governments who appose this resolution should be condemned.
    I have been reading the ‘Iron Wall’ by Jabotinski and have been in agreement with many things he had to say
    Here is a sample…..

    “Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach.
    That is our Arab policy; not what we should be, but what it actually is, whether we admit it or not. What need, otherwise, of the Balfour Declaration? Or of the Mandate? Their value to us is that outside Power has undertaken to create in the country such conditions of administration and security that if the native population should desire to hinder our work, they will find it impossible.
    And we are all of us, without any exception, demanding day after day that this outside Power, should carry out this task vigorously and with determination.
    In this matter there is no difference between our “militarists” and our “vegetarians”. Except that the first prefer that the iron wall should consist of Jewish soldiers, and the others are content that they should be British.
    We all demand that there should be an iron wall. Yet we keep spoiling our own case, by talking about “agreement” which means telling the Mandatory Government that the important thing is not the iron wall, but discussions. Empty rhetoric of this kind is dangerous. And that is why it is not only a pleasure but a duty to discredit it and to demonstrate that it is both fantastic and dishonest.
    He goes on… In the first place, if anyone objects that this point of view is immoral, I answer: It is not true: either Zionism is moral and just, or it is immoral and unjust.
    But that is a question that we should have settled before we became Zionists.
    Actually we have settled that question, and in the affirmative.”

    The colonisers of America had a similar mind set encapsulated in the phrase ‘Manifest destiny’ or the will of God, this needed to be enforced by the Army’s Gatling guns and Winchester repeating rifles, millions of Indians were slaughtered and led into reservations and forgotten about, this was with the approval of people like Winston Churchill who said this was merely a superior race replacing an inferior one, which sounds like Darwin’s theory of the survival of the fittest, or at another time Mao’s ‘Power grows out the barrel of a gun’.
    In today’s world the Palestinians are the Red Indians and like them will not go away quietly, had the Indians precision-guided missiles as the numerous opponents of Zionism have, a different outcome may have been inevitable, unless an Iron wall 20 miles high can be built to protect the Israeli population and Industrial infrastructure then Zionism cannot succeed.

    • Tom Welsh

      Things have moved on a bit in the past century, and I should hope that the mentality behind the Balfour Declaration has become at least a little less prevalent. Essentially, it was summed up by the popular Zionist slogan, “A land without a people for a people without a land”. Neatly excising – “cancelling”, to coin a word – the indigenous Palestinian people.

      We shouldn’t be surprised, either, that HMG should support that attitude. After all, our great and spotless leader Winston Churchill said this:

      “I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place”.

  • Lapsed Agnostic

    If I were in our host’s shoes, I’d be fairly glad that Police Scotland don’t appear to be too interested in investigating crimes involving hacking, otherwise, instead of ringing his doorbell of an evening and asking to have a short chat in his study about Stewart McDonald’s emails, they might have been letting themselves in with the big red key at 6am in the morning, seizing all his electronic devices, and then charging him with accessing hacked data under Section 1 of the Computer Misuse Act 1990, which carries a maximum sentence of two years in clink and an unlimited fine.

  • Brian c

    It’s because Gaza is exposing the depravity of the political-media class more clearly than ever before. They know it’s a potential gamechanger so are trying to silence the tiny number of public figures who oppose genocide and are *genuinely* off-reservation.


  • Jon

    Currently the Twitter account reads thusly (with no tweets):

    Craig Murray holding account
    Craig Murray holding account. This is a temporary account to secure journalist Craig Murray’s username after a hack on 9th November. Normal service will resume.

    Does this mean that Twitter have at least recognised that the account was hacked? If that is so then can that be seen as progress?

    • Jon

      Ah, I am replying to my own post here: Craig says elsewhere that when the original account was renamed, the old name became available, and a well-meaning person registered it to ensure it was not stolen again.

      I am surprised this is permitted by Twitter at all, to be honest. If an account takes a name for many years, that name should not be available for registration any time in the future. This is a simple way to ensure that a new owner could not pose as the identity of an old one.

    • Tom Welsh

      Wow – only three weeks and they have already put up a notice saying the account was hacked! Lightning work.

      Maybe by 2070 or so they may publish an explanation.

      • Twirlip

        Actually, it was done on or before Saturday 11th. When I saw it, I thought as you did, that someone at Twitter/X was starting to work on the problem. But as Jon says, the “holding account” was created by a well-wisher, on his/her own initiative. X seem to have done nothing at all.

  • El Dee

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Giving up is admission, proceeding with action drains the coffers. I imagine it (@matthuag) was passed on to make it seem this might have been some kind of hack by those motivated by money and that the earlier laptop thieves ere able to gain passwords etc and use them to get into your X account.

    They aren’t motivated in knowing your private messages as they could already have seen them using the same methods they used to change all the details. But with this being a ‘hack’ it does allow them to ‘leak’ information and mix truth with untruth for the purpose of discrediting.

    I genuinely despair at the country I live in. You’re not publishing nuclear codes, nothing you do could bring about armageddon so why bother? This can ONLY be to save themselves from embarrassment..

    • craig Post author

      That is the key question, El Dee. I am only an old bloke with a laptop and very limited influence. The effort put into silencing me is utterly disproportionate. But explainable I think simply in terms of our massive overload of spooks finding things to do in order to jusify their own existence and inflated budgets.

      • harry law

        Craig, yes “you are only an old bloke with a laptop”, but the powers that be need to make an example of someone, why not you with your blog which does have some significant influence?

      • Clabdhu

        Other strong voices who shine light on government and international wrong-doing have mostly not been treated this badly; I have no doubt that, as an inside whistleblower, you are yet again being made an example ‘pour encourager les autres’.

        We see similar malice directed at whistleblowers in NHS, police, military, etc. Blind loyalty is valued above moral integrity.

      • will moon

        “I understand why action has been taken to destroy all that, just as I understand why a laughable “terrorism” investigation against me has been launched to disrupt my work and try to put me back in jail. I must be achieving something, or they wouldn’t take all this trouble. I intend therefore to bash on.”

        “… what a police tyranny is like and how vital it is to defeat it.It seems to me that in many ways ideas have a life of their own.They appear to seize on people and make use of them. The idea that seized me twenty seven years ago and never let go of me is this – any society where people meddle in other peoples business is not a good society and a state where “the government know more about you than you know about yourself”… is a state which must be overthrown. It may be a theocracy, a fascist corporate state or reactionary monopolistic capitalism or centralistic socialism. That aspect does not matter”
        Philip K Dick 1977

        By, say 2005, using an individuals online behaviour and the other individuals and instituitions they are linked with, both physically and virtually, the state knows far more about any of us than we know ourselves – capable of mapping an individual in many hundreds of dimensions, with all the predictive power that implies – this just using statistical analysis not AI or other modern “Juju”

        The concept of “mother”, “father”, “man” “woman” “justice” or “fairness” etc is our business not theirs. We are all witnesses to the establishment of a “police tyranny”. Some like Craig Murray, Jerry Sadowitz, Julian Assange and the people of Gaza etc know this tyranny more intimately than the rest of us, with vastly differing real world implications but make no mistake, it must be transcended if human experience means anything at all

        Keep right on to the end of the road.

    • Tom Welsh

      The belief that government ministers and civil servants have the public interest at heart is the worst and commonest delusion of the present day. Why on earth would anyone believe that intelligent, determined, ruthless people who have dedicated their lives to gaining power should, as soon as they have it, start caring about others? It’s the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard.

      In spite of all the mindless propaganda about freedom and democracy and how we live in the best of all possible dispensations, it appears that somehow – perhaps through the operation a malignant fate, or perhaps just through the simple working of evolution – we have wound up with the worst of all possible worlds. One of the worst things about which is that most people think it is practically perfect in every way.

      Of course, that does save thinking.

      Various people who were not averse to thinking have reached similar conclusions down the ages. Three examples:

      “Politicians [are] a set of men who have interests aside from the interests of the people and who, to say the most of them, are, taken as a mass, at least one long step removed from honest men”.
      – Abraham Lincoln (speech in Illinois Legislature 1837)

      “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class”.
      – Albert Jay Nock

      “All governments suffer a recurring problem: [p]ower attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted”.
      – Frank Herbert, “Chapterhouse Dune”

      • Calgacus

        Yes, often true enough as far as they go, but while commenting on such sentiments, I think J. D. B. Miller saw more in his The Nature of Politics. For “A reaction against politics is the rage of Caliban at seeing his face in the glass; politics is all too human.”
        and a couple pages later: “It would be foolish to deny that a burning desire for justice may be the sustaining power behind political activity. Moreover, politics is amongst the few kinds of activity which can satisfy such a desire.”

        I think that describes Julian Assange and our esteemed host – and even a few professional politicians in history quite well.

  • Ebenezer Scroggie

    Does Craig Murray really want his phone back?

    If/when the rozzers return it, it will quite certainly have been stuffed full of spyware from GCHQ/NSA/Mossad et al. Much of that malware will be designed to spread to everyone CM has any contact with.

    • glenn_nl

      ES: “ …it will quite certainly have been stuffed full of spyware from GCHQ/NSA/Mossad […]”

      So it’ll be just like everyone else’s mobile, then.

  • Yankee Jack

    Now this is entirely insane, quite disturbing indeed, and very clearly politically motivated from high on up. I can see very well why through such a lens one would be less inclined to apply (the admittedly grossly overused) Hanlon’s Razor to analysing Ranjeet’s arrest on Saturday.

    One thing to keep in mind is that in addition to claiming against X HQ in Ireland, a cause of action under the U.K. Data Protection Act 2018 would seem clearly available, as they are clearly there to serve U.K. based data subjects, apparently even charging you the blue tick fee in GBP, and are thus clearly bound by the U.K. GDPR. I’m pretty sure that if there was a data breach they are required to duly investigate it, file their findings with the ICO, etc, and face the demands for (in this case I would think quite substantial) damages by the victim in court in case they could be shown to have committed any negligence that allowed the breach. In case of active complicity I would think there would be serious criminal ramifications but would think in any event that there would be plenty of data protection specialising solicitors who would jump for the chance to assist this if Aamer for whatever reason wasn’t keen or able to himself.


  • Brianfujisan

    Posted A Paragraph To Inverclyde for Independence…

    I hope they don’t delete it..Like they did they last one I posted regarding this matter.

    • glenn_nl

      Fuck off, scumbag. Jew haters are not welcome here.

      Nor are intellectually dishonest Nazis who want to equate a genocidal government with the decency of ordinary Jews, and wish to tarnish the good name of an entire race with the actions of that government.

      Which sort are you, out of interest…? Both, would be my guess.

  • will moon

    Twenty or so days is a long time in social media. Over a 100, 000 followers is a lot of people – I would guess the demographic breakdown of those people might yield an image, unsettling in certain quarters, that might relate to George Galloway’s remark about sojourning in Switzland then returning home via the Finland Station.

    Cometh the hour, cometh the person. In the past this was realised in hindsight, today it is monitored and managed in realtime

    “There is nothing harder to stop than those whose time has come to pass”
    George Clinton

  • Pears Morgaine

    Craig joins a growing army of users, great and small, who have had their X/Twitter accounts hacked.

    I imagine it wouldn’t take an experienced hacker long to get around the time delay and change all settings, since the takeover security on the platform has been seriously weakened. Far fewer actual real people there to help you too.

    With advertisers – the real reason why X/Twitter exists – pulling out and Musk’s increasingly unhinged behaviour, how much longer it will last is a moot question. If it were me I wouldn’t waste too much time or money trying to get back on.

    • Lapsed Agnostic

      That’s what I think has happened, Pears, with our host possibly falling victim to ‘credential stuffing’, since he may have used the same TwitterX password as for a long-forgotten account on another platform whose password list has been hacked – that’s the most common way that hackers get to work out passwords seemingly.

      Our host is largely preaching to the converted, unlike people such as Jackson Hinkle in Amerikkka, who’s now got 2.2 million followers (probably mostly fake but even so) and is bound to be upsetting the Israeli & US security services, but still hasn’t had his account hacked. Anyway, at least the hackers have been doing a good turn by alerting people to an online scam:

      Takes one to know one.

  • nevermind

    Not so poor Elon thought that if he quickly agrees with the abominable actions in Palestine, that his advertising revenues would recover magically.
    Looks like that cold hand Luke poker move just made things worse.
    I for one will not be sad if he has to flog off the bare bones of X to the next security/intelligence services lackey with too much money to waste.
    Good riddance!

    • ET

      Your “not so poor Elon” comment prompted me to look into SpaceX customers. I stumbled across this fan based list of customers.

      I haven’t tried to verify that list but it appears to be overwhelmingly NASA/ESA/military customers. Thats hardly too surprising but threatening to withdraw contracts might be persuasive. As perhaps would regulating TESLA or perhaps increasing the regulatory pressure on X in USA and EU might also be. I’m not endorsing Musk’s actions just suggesting possible levers of influence that may have been used to bring him into line.

  • Robert Dyson

    It might seem an understatement – I just feel sad.
    Is this what should be our great state institutions are reduced to? Using all their power to play games to thwart honest citizens from reporting the truth as they see it, expressed without wishing harm on anyone.

    • John Main

      I feel a bit sad too.

      Maybes it’s true – Mr Murray is such a goad in the flesh of the body politic that the forces of the state, perhaps even states, have been deployed to disrupt his efforts and thwart his ambition to put his minority views across to the world.

      Maybes another explanation is true – Shit happens, faceless, anarchic organisations like X screw up (as do FaceBook, Google, etc), and nobody much cares, because that’s the default attitude of the unaccountable big tech companies. Let me stress that – unaccountable – they do what they like, and that includes incompetent behaviour. If anybody can’t handle that, then they really shouldn’t sign up to use their services.

      People who made their minds up about things years ago “know” the answer. But they probably don’t because probably nobody does.

      Yup, all of the above will make anybody a bit sad.

      • Mr Mark Cutts

        Err …no.

        We are entering the New World of the so called ‘Truth’.

        Now, the thing is, whose truth?

        For instance you go on Youtube and you are guided towards your favourite truth (i.e. the people you agree with). This is the problem. If you go on The Telegraph you experience their truth. If you go on The Communist Party of Great (sic) Britain (Marxist-Leninist) you experience their truth and so on.

        Strangely enough Kissinger died today and the irony is that he was one of the few politicians/advisers who actually told the truth. Which was: If it wasn’t in the interests of the US then sod it (a British – not an American phrase of course). And basically – never be a friend of the US -as the US has no friends only ‘interests’. The Israelis are about to learn that harsh lesson.

        And many other ‘Truth Tellers’ are experiencing uncomfortable truths (realities), and they are not and will not be very nice. Like the Guardian et al.

        The truth is – that the truth is not very nice and palatable, but it remains the truth no matter what you may think.

        • Cornudet

          I was cheered no end by the fact that the ITV evening news dwelt far longer on the death of my fellow denizen of the Irish diaspora than on the demise of Henry Kissinger and Alasdair Darling. I was going to say that this is in direct proportion to the amount of cheer these three individuals brought into the world, but in that case the respective amount accorded to the devilish Kissinger would have been both negative and substantial.

          By the way, the greatest philosopher of the past century, Ludwig Wittgenstein, the handsome Jew of Linz. teaches us that there can only be one truth, coterminous with an objective reality, otherwise language would be intrinsically unlearnable. Yet this selfsame faculty of language allows for all manner of connivance at lies in the service of sectional interests, if the game of language is divorced from the objective truth. Vorsprung durch technik, if you are playing the language game of Russell’s “German Engineer.”

          • Cynicus

            “Ludwig Wittgenstein, the handsome Jew of Linz. teaches us that there can only be one truth, coterminous with an objective reality, otherwise language would be intrinsically unlearnablle”
            Sure you have the right guy?

            Are you referring to early “picture theory of meaning “ Wittgenstein, or later, “forms of life “ Wittgenstein?

          • Cornudet

            Without going far off topic and boring the majority of the readers with a plethora of arid technicalities, some of us refuse to see a radical dichotomy in the work of the early and the late Wittgenstein. Indeed, I wrote a dissertation at Bachelors degree level defending this very position. The Picture Theory of Meaning survives in DM Armstrongs exposition of Possible Worlds semantics, for many of us the most lucid such exposition. The work of Frank Ramsay, under this interpretation, merely alerted the young Ludwig of the need for a fully nuanced consideration of the role of language in sustaining, as a seed sustains the parent plant, specific forms of life

        • Cynicus

          “…as the US has no friends only ‘interests’.”
          IS that statement not true of any country?

          Kissinger would have been well aware of Palmerston’s dictum: “There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent friends, only permanent interests”

      • Jm

        @ John Main.

        Minority views? Like concerns over justice and human rights John?

        Even by your woeful standards that is a laughably pathetic post.

        No gift vouchers today John.

        • Bayard

          “Minority views? Like concerns over justice and human rights John?”

          Sadly, yes, people like Craig are in a minority. Most people just don’t think about things like justice and human rights, except insofar as they “believe” in them and “support” them. Actual analysis like Craig’s is very much a minority activity. However, unlike what JM implies, that doesn’t mean he’s not right. 10,000,000 people can be wrong.

  • Greg Park

    It was a twin-pronged assault to silence/ delegitimise your criticism of Israel. Detach you permanently from your 140,000 followers and at the same time brand you as an anti-semite. It is irrelevant that the tweet they attributed to you was uncharacteristic and dumb. They know it took next to nothing to brand the previous leader of the Labour Party as an anti-semite, despite him being one of the greatest anti-racist campaigners in the history of western politics. Experience has shown them that if all the approved opinion formers are on the same page a critical mass of people can be convinced that night is day.

    They are on a charge right now. There has been no let up whatsoever in the elite campaign to brand all criticism of Apartheid Israel as anti-semitic, even as the world is watching babies being allowed to decompose in incubators and pregnant women being repeatedly stabbed in the street in broad daylight. Quite the contrary. The US House of Representatives passed a resolution on Wednesday which equates anti-zionism with anti-semitism. 412 voted yes. Only 1 voted no (a Republican from Kentucky). There was 1 abstention, a Palestinian woman representing a heavily Arab district in Michigan. She did not feel free to oppose the most extreme affront imaginable to her dignity and intelligence in the Land of Free Speech.

    There is a similar extreme chill on free speech in British public life when it comes to Israel (as well as most other foreign-policy issues). It is exemplified by the lib dems who now have at their top table that rare thing: the lesser spotted zionist Palestinian. Naturally she was given a platform by the BBC on their Question Time programme last night.

    In western public life you have two choices on Israel. You can either be a zionist or you will be shut up by whatever means.

    • Goose

      I think that explanation could well be correct.

      The US and UK probably knew their amoral backing for Israel and its siege of Gaza; denying water, power, food and shelter, and horrifically excessive bombing, could leave leaders and officials up to the necks in accusations of complicity in war crimes. If the plan is ultimately to ethnically cleanse Gaza and brazenly steal the land? The explanation holds up even more.
      The last thing they’d want is a former ambassador, no less, amplifying that opinion with reference to relevant international humanitarian law and international criminal law treaties. And on the largest social media platform, being quote retweeted etc. CM’s comments on the likely US/UK sponsored political chicanery that led to the takedown of Imran Khan, in Pakistan, got incredible traction & amplification for example.

      • Greg Park

        “The last thing they’d want is a former ambassador, no less, amplifying that opinion with reference to relevant international humanitarian law and international criminal law treaties. And on the largest social media platform, being quote retweeted.”

        You’ve hit the nail hit squarely on the head. His targeting is not frivolous.

        • Ian

          From the moment Craig said he would not condemn Hamas he ceased to be a human rights campaigner and became a partisan hack. Which is fine, if you believe your case is strong enough. But you are not a human rights campaigner if you will not condemn gratuitous celebration of a massacre of infants, elderly and assorted civilians and their capture and hostage taking. Period.

          • Greg Park

            He refused to condemn Hamas’s resistance but explicitly said he wished their attack had not had innocent victims.

            He wanted to make clear he would not bow to browbeating from the worst people on the planet: the genocide enthusiasts, enablers and apologists. Subsequent events have shown he was right not to. Nobody with any self respect would.

            They know they are dealing with somebody who is serious, principled, very well respected and has wide reach. That is why he was targeted.

          • Goose

            He stated :

            But in the coming Gaza genocide, every act of armed resistance by H**** and H******** , will have my full support.

            He worded his tweet carefully, limiting his support to ‘acts of resistance’ against an upcoming genocidal campaign. Which now appears to be happening. This is quite different from supporting general acts of terrorism, either group or their tactics.

          • Goose

            As of 15:12, 1/12/2023, there are lots of btl comments on the Telegraph top story about Israel’s resumption of its murderously excessive bombing, This time of southern Gaza – Khan Yunis and Rafah. These posts, many of which openly call for genocide and other war crimes, truly sick pro-Israel posts.

            This, as CM is being harassed over a tweet, that merely mentioned resisting genocide. The double standards in the West.

          • Greg Park

            If you’re one of Britain’s grown up moderates it’s right that the genocide has resumed after a humanitarian pause. This is the responsible course according to the UK’s best known human rights lawyer.

          • Goose

            What will likely happen now. The ethnic cleansing will move to the next phase :expulsion. As the full despicable scope of Netanyahu’s plan to clear Gaza, becomes undeniable. Zionists at the BBC will try to push the story down the news agenda.

            At some point, I think other Muslim countries are going to have to get involved, militarily. Otherwise Israel will clear Gaza and move on to the West Bank.

          • Bayard

            “But you are not a human rights campaigner if you will not condemn gratuitous celebration of a massacre of infants, elderly and assorted civilians and their capture and hostage taking.”

            Quite apart from the fact that Israeli sources say that no infants were killed, how do you know that Hamas massacred elderly and assorted civilians? Because the Israelis say so? Yeah right. How about all those Israeli civilians that Israeli survivors of the killing say were killed by the IDF because the IDF were too scared to get withing shooting distance of Hamas and so killed Israelis and Hamas alike from a safe distance? In any case, the only “gratuitous celebration of a massacre of infants, elderly and assorted civilians” has been from the Israeli side and I think you will find that Craig has been quite outspoken in condemning that.

          • nevermind

            Unless of course this massacre was committed by those who needed a guilt to be created for their war aims in the ME.
            ‘Oh, it’s impossible to identify the heavily burnt bones? Who burnt these bones? And who had tanks shoot at a kibbutz houses knowing they were occupied, claiming that Hamas had overrun it? A murderous policy that kills all and destroys the genetic evidence.
            Are you seriously believing that Hamas had the time to pile up the bodies and burn them?
            It was a raid/suicide mission and not many of them returned. They were not given the time to clear up and burn bodies.
            1400 victims died and most of them unidentified. To believe a Zionist gang and their multiple lies, which deny human rights to innocent children and kill them with modern US weapons, en masse, is believing in the devil’s disciples.
            You seem to be enjoying this decent into Hades, Ian. There is a place for you as well.
            Craig is right to say what he is free to say.
            Palestine is not a figment of the imagination; it existed for hundreds of years, a culture with poets, writers, songs and universities, destroyed systematically and violently by an incredibly mischievous ng bunch of ideologues that undermined and ignored the UN hand that helped them to SHARE Palestine.

          • Greg Park


            Of course that is their intention. It is only necessary to believe one’s own eyes. The determination of the BBC to cling onto its War Against Hamas narrative is something to behold. It requires them not just to disbelieve their own eyes but to cover their ears tightly against what Netanyahu and his ministers have been saying all along.

    • John Main

      I guess the idea that people may be able to look at the evidence and make up their own minds is unthinkable for you.

      Yet the evidence is crystal clear. Two sides are each sworn to the other’s annihilation.

      That leaves three possible outcomes: Side A eliminates Side B; Side B eliminates Side A; both sides stop fighting, renounce their vows, and negotiate a compromise solution.

      Most people on here are advocating one of the first two outcomes, even while lying through their teeth about it. The give away is the abusive language used only about one side.

      I advocate the third outcome.

      Not that it matters. This is an existentialist struggle that will just go on and on. Maybes some on here will come around to supporting the third outcome, given enough time. Not that that will matter either.

      • craig Post author

        The argument that everybody who opposes Israel’s apartheid system and slow genocide of the Palestinians, wishes to annihilate Jewish people, is so brainless it is not in fact an argument at all.

        • John Main


          Glad I didn’t make that argument.

          Hamas wants to kill Israeli Jews and remove the state of Israel from the map.

          Israel wants to annihilate Hamas, I am guessing wherever its members may be found.

          That’s the A and B sides I write about.

          Some Israelis want to further annexe territories and ethnically cleanse areas. These people need to be held in check by Israel.

          Some Hamas members welcome innocent Palestinian casualties, and embed themselves with that objective in mind. These people need to be held in check by the Palestinians.

          The compromise I write about requires A and B to stop fighting and each settle for less than their sworn objectives. That needs the moderates on both sides to reign in their extremist factions.

          Both sides are acting in some respect as proxies for bigger players, who are themselves engaged in an ongoing ideological Cold War, with some hot outbreaks. Both the big players have to at least tacitly agree to stop fuelling the conflict.

          That’s an outline of the problem as I see it.

          Any proposed solution to the problem, that is entirely predicated on the idea that only one side needs to stop fighting, is delusional. Any side that unilaterally gives up will see eventual annihilation.

          • Aguirre

            Wishing to remove Israel from the map does not equate with a desire to kill all Israelis or drive them into the sea, or whatever. Or even any of them.

            To give you an example : Poland was eliminated from the map after the 3rd Partition, to be divided between Prussia, Austria, and Russia. But that did not lead to the murder, genocide, disappearance or expulsion of the Poles.

            And the re-establishment of Poland in 1918 left the German, Austrian, and Russian (in fact, Ukrainian) minorities intact.

  • AG

    This I am posting here since it also concerns TWITTER, albeit pre-MUSK:

    A new trove on the TWITTER Files Complex has been published.

    Next to CISA there apparently was a 2nd such group: CTIL –

    – “Threat Intelligence League, or CTIL, that officially began as the volunteer project of data scientists and defense and intelligence veterans but whose tactics over time appear to have been absorbed into multiple official projects, including those of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).”

    see the entire post:

    “CTIL Files #1: US And UK Military Contractors Created Sweeping Plan For Global Censorship In 2018, New Documents Show”

    I would assume that current Twitter censorship would go back to structures implemented under that regime.
    Just because Musk took over it doesn´t mean he did an internal “clean sweep”.

    As he is a major military contractor to the US Armed Forces it is rather unlikely and illogical.

    And since British personnel was heavily involved, Craig Murray would be a natural “target”.

    a few quotes from the rather long post:

    “The authors advocated for police, military, and intelligence involvement in censorship, across Five Eyes nations, and even suggested that Interpol should be involved.”

    “The CTI League documents offer the missing link answers to key questions not addressed in the Twitter Files and Facebook Files. Combined, they offer a comprehensive picture of the birth of the “anti-disinformation” sector, or what we have called the Censorship Industrial Complex.
    The whistleblower alleges that a leader of CTI League, a “former” British intelligence analyst, was “in the room” at the Obama White House in 2017 when she received the instructions to create a counter-disinformation project to stop a “repeat of 2016. (…)”

    When Taibbi and Shellenberger testified in Congress they did not know what had happened in 2019. That gap seems now filled.


    “(…)The CTIL framework and the public-private model are the seeds of what both the US and UK would put into place in 2020 and 2021, including masking censorship within cybersecurity institutions and counter-disinformation agendas; a heavy focus on stopping disfavored narratives, not just wrong facts; and pressuring social media platforms to take down information or take other actions to prevent content from going viral.(…)”

    Involved was e.g. “MITRE, a major defense and intelligence contractor that has an annual budget of $1 to $2 billion in government funding.”

    The post gives several names. Some of those are also connected to US Special Ops. During meetings e.g.:

    “(…)Breuer (one such Special Ops. guy) went on to describe how they thought they were getting around the First Amendment. (…)”

    Initially one major focus was on Covid. However the entire lingo betrays the true extent and planning to a time after Covid. Which was probably clear to everyone involved. You don´t build such bodies to dissolve them again. In fact they get even more powerful and invisible.

    “(…)SJ called us the ‘Hogwarts school for misinformation and disinformation,’” said the whistleblower. “They were superheroes in their own story. And to that effect you could still find comic books on the CISA site.”

    CTIL, the whistleblower said, “needed programmers to pull apart information from Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. For Twitter they created Python code to scrape.”

    The CTIL records provided by the whistleblower illustrate exactly how CTIL operated and tracked “incidents,” as well as what it considered to be “disinformation.”(…)”.

    • Jm

      AG ^

      Wow.Thats some serious whistleblowing.

      Some staggering revelations in there.This one also jumped right out:

      “When asked whether Terp or other CTIL leaders discussed their potential violation of the First Amendment, the whistleblower said, “They did not… The ethos was that if we get away with it, it’s legal, and there were no First Amendment concerns because we have a ‘public-private partnership’ — that’s the word they used to disguise those concerns.”

      These people are insane criminals and should be in jail.

      • AG

        oh since we are at this

        I woud like to reccomend to everyone this interview with CIA whistlebower John Kiriakou from 2 months ago:

        “Is the Intercept a Deep State Success Story?”

        “From Matthew Cole and Richard Espocito’s snitching on sources to Pierre Omidyar’s role in seizing control of the Snowden archives, the question is raised — was The Intercept a deep state ploy all along? ”

        I have the feeling this piece did not get the attention even among altern. media that it deserved.

        Kiriakou points out that some of The Intercept´s staff involved in reporting leaks either willingly or due to lack of professional conduct have caused major legal trouble for several whistleblowers who went to The Intercept.

        The Intercept then in outlandishly irresponsible ways was cross-checking the leaks and while doing so gave away the IDs of the very whistleblowers they should protect to the FBI and the CIA.

        Kiriakou in this interview then legitimately asks whether this could be intention.

        I of course wouldn´t compare The Intercept with Bellingcat.

        But the facts and doubts stated by Kiriakou remain and show how dangerous all this has become.

        p.s. ignore the fact that reporter Max Jones appears to be still a kid.

        • Tatyana

          Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them 🙂
          funny, for the film distribution in Russia the title was translated as ‘фантастические твари’
          and the word ‘тварь’ also means ‘vile person’, and the word ‘fantastic’ also means ‘extraordinary’ or ‘epic’ as in ‘epic fail’.

          • AG

            you know WB canceled the rest of what originally was like 5 or 6 films of фантастические твари.

            I guess therefore Konchalovski will have to take some 200mio. oligarch money from RU and do RU versions instead.
            (I just got his Nutcracker from the library. Neve watched it in full. And since its snowing outside and everyhting is so gorgeous politically I thought a little twisted Russian take on a childrens´ Classic would be appropriate. Just watch that movie and you know right away that the Russians of course abducted thousande of Ukrainian children.)

            p.s. sry MOD no more OT.

          • AG

            (clarification: my last phrase on child abductions by Russians was of course ironic – Hollywood studio executives loathed Konchalovski´s “Nutcracker”.
            Because, obviously it has very little in common with what we usually see as christmas family entertainment.
            And the twisted Soviet artist of course messed it all up again.)

          • Bayard

            ‘фантастические твари’ and Where to Find Them

            Was the answer the USA, by any chance?

          • Tatyana

            Place names clearly belong to the Western cultural code. Well, you wouldn’t expect ‘твари’ from Hogwarts or Lorien to suddenly call themselves “Shaolin monks” or “warriors from Murom”, would you?

            And, perhaps I don’t expect the discovery of the Lannisters or Targaryens. That was a film for adults after all, so it’s unlikely.
            Peppa Pig maybe.

          • Bayard

            Tatyana, I was trying to suggest that the USA might be the best place to find epically vile persons, trying to be punny in a foreign language and failing.

    • Allan Howard

      I wonder if the BBC will be covering this revelation?

      Bellingcat: The website behind the Skripal revelation (BBC News, 27 Sep 2018)

      Needless to say, they won’t be, and neither will the rest of the MSM, which says it all of course.

      Anyway, I just came across the following on youtube regarding Owen Jones being demonised for impartial journalism by nasty malicious propagandists:

      Novara Media: Owen Jones SMEARED For Telling Truth About Israeli Propaganda (01/12/2023) – YouTube, 19m 58s

    • AG

      btw if people here have not heard:

      3 days ago Federal Judge Amos L. Mazzant from Texas ordered the FBI to hand over Seth Rich´s laptop and phone and to provide a timelime of Rich´s actions concerning the DNC leaks.

      “The ruling is the latest in a long-running freedom of information battle between the FBI and Ty Clevenger, an attorney representing the plaintiff, Texas-based Brian Huddleston.”

      As a reminder: Seth Rich worked for the Democratic National Committee and was killed on July 10, 2016 in D.C. while talking to his gilfriend on the phone (who heard gun shots).

      There is a likelihood that Rich was behind or involved with the DNC leaks and that he was murdered to cover up any of that.

      Rich was disenchanted with the DNC after Clinton´ s sabotage of Sander´s 2016 campaign.

      Larry Johnson still holds the view the murder was instigated via Pakistani ISI to protect their alleged source in the DNC, IT-specialist Imran Awan.

      On Friday Larry Johnson & Ray McGovern on this topic (including a 2016 clip with Assange on Rich). Interesting info:
      TC: beginning at 16:00

      The DOJ with their material on Imran Awan who later got into financial trouble (130 pages compiled by 2021), this compilation went as high as Sen. Feinstein:

      And with the caveat of Wiki, here some CV of Imran Awan:

      “Shahid Imran Awan[1] (born 1979) is a Pakistani-American information technology worker. From 2004 to 2017, he worked as a shared employee for Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives.”

      Will be interesting what comes out of the order of Judge Mazzant.

      Since even though D.C. police found no culprit for the murder and thus claimed an ordinary robbery the counter-intelligence unit of the FBI was involved in the investigation. Which is quite unusual for a “common” robbery.

  • Tdg

    Hacking without the sanction of the law is a crime. It is implausible that the state would take the risk for such minimal gain, and truly absurd to exploit it so ineptly, issuing a single obviously inauthentic tween before handing the account over to some cybernerds.

    • glenn_nl

      In your vast experience of such matters, I take it?

      Thank you for taking the time to benefit us with your wisdom, it’s great that you could clear the whole thing up in just a couple of sentences.

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