The Fun of Electioneering 221

I just received a phone call from a very nice lady. concerned that the obstacles being placed in my way as a candidate may be getting me down. On the contrary, I haven’t had so much fun in ages.

We sit down to dinner about 10pm every evening after the day’s campaigning, usually about 16 of us, guitars come out, someone strikes up on the piano and we have enormous fun, except for my singing, for which the politest word is loud.

If we didn’t scare the political establishment, they would not react so fiercely to us. We get abuse from party hacks on the street, while the parties are tellingly polite to each other and connive to keep me out of broadcast events. Lots of flak now coming on the internet from Tories, Lib Dems (see the immensely dull Norfolk Blogger) and Greens, and lots of trolls on this website. I might start a flyposting storm to wind them up further.

A prize of twenty pounds is offered to anyone who spots Chloe Smith in public with less than six minders.

Reaction on the doorsteps can only be described as extremely warm – and we have witnessed many instances of outright hostility in public reaction to the political parties. So despite the efforts of overpaid BBC execs to bolster the political parties, something really interesting is happening with real people here in Norwich North. The challenge is to turn that in to action at the ballot box.

Get yourselves to Norwich now – you are missing a lot of fun!

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221 thoughts on “The Fun of Electioneering

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  • Rob Lewis

    @Rob Speare: Who are you voting for? Or if you aren’t in Norwich North, who would you vote for?

  • Rob Lewis

    @anticant [et al]: Oh good god. Couldn’t you all just give the 9/11 stuff a break? Presumably you’re all quite fond of Craig. Don’t you think you could stop harnessing all that stuff to his site until the election is over, at the very least?

  • anon

    Rob Lewis

    Let’s give all that 9/11 stuff a break. Let’s just wait for the generation of children who witnessed the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, as a result of lies about 9/11, to grow up and destroy our civilisation because we couldn’t face the truth about ourselves.

    Muslims worldwide still believe that the ordinary British voter is different to the murderers at the top. Prove them wrong in this election, by turning your backs and closing your ears and planting your dahlias and switching off the information that is available down the internet.

    In the time of the slave trade, or the holocaust, people had the excuse that they didn’t know what was going on. Now there is no excuse, and I am with Craig 100% that the Muslims in this country have been the worst offenders in blanking out the reality of what has been done in our name by Bush and Brown/Blair.

  • anticant

    I second that, with the amendment of “suffered from” instead of “witnessed”.

    The people who support the Hitlerite doctrine of ‘liberal interventionism’ erase from their minds the hundreds of thousands who have died as a direct consequence of 9/11.

    If it was even partly an inside job, it was one of the greatest crimes in world history. If it wasn’t, the subsequent US/UK policies have been utterly inept and counterproductive and their poisonous consequences will rebound on us for many years to come.

  • anticant

    By the way, Rob Lewis, I am not “fond” of Craig. I have never met him. But I admire his (sometimes almost reckless) courage in speaking his mind, and I respect many – though not all – of his opinions. I most certainly think that he would make a far superior MP to most of those whose posteriors are currently sullying the green benches, and I hope the voters of Norwich North have the good sense to send him to Parliament to represent them.

  • mary

    Another NuLabour stoge condones torture, this time it’s Postman Pat.

    Yahoo news

    Torture probe: Johnson defends MI5

    25 mins ago

    Home Secretary Alan Johnson has come to the defence of MI5 following the launch of a police investigation into allegations that some of its agents were complicit in torture.

    Mr Johnson said he had “nothing but admiration” for the work of the security service and believed they operated “to the highest ethical and professional standards”.

    And he warned Britain’s interests would be at risk if the service’s counter-terrorism capabilities were “diminished and diluted”.

    Scotland Yard announced last week it was launching an investigation, at the request of Attorney General Baroness Scotland, into claims made by former Guantanamo Bay detainee Binyam Mohamed.

    The 30-year-old Ethiopian national alleges MI5 knew he was tortured into confessing terrorist activities while in custody in Pakistan and Morocco and that MI5 officers fed questions to his interrogators through the CIA. The Government denies the claims.

    Mr Johnson, who took on responsibility for MI5 when he was appointed Home Secretary in June, said: “I haven’t sat around the last six weeks not looking into these things.

    “I have looked very closely at them and I just say this: we have one of the best counter-terrorism capabilities in the world and we diminish and dilute it at our peril.”

    He added: “In my six weeks in this job I am so reassured and so amazed at the work that is going on, on our behalf, by people who do not have a voice, who are not able to express their views, who work in the most difficult and dangerous circumstances.

    “I have nothing but admiration for them. As I am in effect their voice I will defend them and defend what they do, and it does worry me. I believe they work to the highest ethical and professional standards.”

    His comments will be welcomed by the intelligence agencies amid concerns that public confidence in them has been shaken by allegations that they colluded with the torture of terror suspects.

  • Jaded.

    Eddie – ‘Democracy = government elected by the people for the people, where everyone has an equal vote and where the majority view prevails. Are there other sorts? Do tell.’

    I’ll tell you different you vermean specimen. Democracy is where the vast majority of the population are aware of the system itself; how the system works; are able to change the system; actively participate in the system; and, in effect, see themselves as ‘same’ to those in government and vice versa. If you think that’s the case now i’ll get you a nice tinfoil hat you pitiful little man. Do you have no shame at all? Shocking and deeply disturbing.

  • George Dutton

    “NHS faces financial meltdown”

    “Tories or New Labour – it’s cuts, cuts, cuts!”

    “WHETHER IT’S the Tories or New Labour who form the next government, one thing is clear, the National Health Service (NHS) faces its biggest crisis since it was founded in 1948.”…

  • Ruth

    Democracy is where there are honest MPs free from greed and manipulation. Not frightened to stand up in parliament and ask the government why so many billions of the taxpayers’ money has disappeared and why state agencies make little or no effort to find the main bulk of our money.

  • MJ

    “Democracy = government elected by the people for the people, where everyone has an equal vote and where the majority view prevails”

    Incorrect. What you’re describing there is Western-style oligarchy ie government by a small group of people with a small democratic element.

    In a true democracy government is not elected by the people, government is the people, with each citizen having an equal say in collective decision-making. Not a lot of it around.

  • dreoilin

    “In 2004 8 million Afghanis voted for a democratic government, in spite of massive Taleban intimidation.”

    So that’s democracy is it? Hamid Karzai was ferried around in US military vehicles, protected by US troops. He covered more ground and in a much safer fashion than any of his opponents. He was given a 10 to 1 advantage by the US. He was foisted on the people of Afghanistan by the all-powerful clean-handed superpower that preaches freedom to the rest of us.

    Corrupt or not, Karzai has been getting under US skins for regularly complaining (and rightly so) about the number of Afghan civilians being killed in US attacks, and made himself unpopular with the US big chiefs (who make out they object to him because he’s corrupt – but that wouldn’t bother them if he kept his mouth shut.) So now they’re hoping to insert a heavyweight challenge to him inside the Afghan government. Someone who will, presumably, shut up about civilian deaths and do as he’s told. Even if said government only controls Kabul.

    As for the plight of Afghan women, that’s neither here nor there, in their obsession to get their grubby little hands on the oil and gas (but a great line to feed to US citizens, especially the more vocal feminists, and naive posters here).

    Funniest comment I heard about the Taliban (American commentator on TV): “They have an odd streak of nationalism”.

    This from the country that only counts US deaths in Iraq. Because, you know, one American life is worth ten of anyone else’s, and as one commenter on a site said to me, “I don’t care how many of the bastards they torture if it saves one American life”.

    I could throw up.

  • eddie

    Thanks for the abuse again. No arguments just abuse.Yo ur notions of democracy are pitiful. La La land. MJ/Dreolin – tell me a country that has ever come close to your notion of democracy. Bet you can’t.

    Chris, you ask how did the explosive get into the rubble? It was put there by dark forces/pixies/God. Either one of these answers is just as credible as your silly fantasies. The BIG question that not one of you can answer is how a conspiracy involving hundreds of operatives has been kept a secret, how NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM has spilled the beans eight years after the event. It is beyond credibility. As anon says, best to keep off this topic – it’s for losers, it’s history for the dumb, it makes you look silly.

    Anticant 9/11 is”one of the greatest crimes in world history” ? Come off it, 3,000 died. Osama has admitted it and he had previous, not least an earlier attempt to blow up the WTC (or was that dark forces too?). Apart from anything else it is an affront to his ingenuity and planning to suggest that anyone else did it.

    JAded, sorry for the abuse but you are a prime time tosser.

  • eddie

    Oh and Drearylin, “the plight of Afghan women is nether here nor there”? Now that DOES make me want to throw up. Over you preferably.

  • anticant

    eddie, IF 9/11 was deliberately planned and executed in order to provide a plausible pretext for the US to invade Iraq and bring yet more chaos and mayhem into the Middle East than Israel had already succeeded in doing, it was indeed a crime of outrageous magnitude.

    And before you go weeping crocodile tears over Afghan women, why don’t you and your ZanuLabour government take tougher steps to stop the domestic abuse of Muslim women living in Britain, to end the stealthy creep towards the recognition of Sharia Law in this country, and to ensure that these women have equal rights with all other British women?

    You talk like a sanctimonious Victorian missionary – which is what you lot are, with all endless prattle about “democracy”, “equality” and “multiculturalism” all of which amounts to patronising covert colonialism.

    It is NOT my business, or yours, to make life perfect (in our terms) for everyone all over the world. If Pashtun people want to follow lunatic religious teachings and mistreat their womenfolk in their own tribal regions that is their business – but not in our backyard, please.

    NuLabour, though, is terrified of offending misogynistic Muslim men because they want their votes, and those of their tame women, securely sewn up for the party regardless of bribery, corruption, and dodgy postal votes.

  • eddie

    if? I agree with you, but you have zero proof that such a fantastic notion has any legs, so your point is meaningless. Your cultural and moral relativism is interesting – for a start Labour has done a lot to tackle the evils you mention, fighting arranged marriages and so-called honour killings. Many people attack Labour for being Islamophobic, you seem to be the reverse. But if you don’t think that we should be concerned about the plight of women in other countries, where the evils perpetrated are often MUCH worse than anything over here then we may as well shut up shop and become an isolationist little island. Would that make the world a better place do you think? Internationalism is a key part of politics.

  • anticant

    By “internationalism” you mean bossy meddlesome interference driven by American and British self-assumed superior values, when in fact both countries are massively morally and materially corrupt and most often intervene in other countries’ affairs out of self-interested motives.

    I don’t say we shouldn’t be concerned about the plight of Afghan, or any other, women but I do say we should not go attempting to colonise their countries under the pretext of rescuing them from their indigenous culture and imposing ours. That is imperialism.

    Since you ask, I think a bigger dose of “Little Englandism” would be no bad thing. Do you really believe that Africa is a better place because of 19th and 20th century colonialism? Maybe Egypt and the Sudan would be healthier places today if we hadn’t fought and won Omdurman. But of course we had to, because the Suez Canal was our lifeline to our Far Eastern possessions.

    You see, foreign intervention is driven by self-interest all the time, dressed up as a “civilizing mission”.

    It really is time to pack in the humbug.

  • lwtc247

    BBC latest:

    The vote will take place on 23 July

    The candidate list for the Norwich North by-election has been published, with 12 people confirmed as standing.

    The poll, to take place on 23 July, was triggered by the resignation of Labour MP Ian Gibson after he was deselected over his expenses claims.

    Dr Gibson had a majority of 5,459 over the Conservatives in 2005.

    Among the independents standing is Craig Murray, former Ambassador to Uzbekistan, who left the post in 2004 after criticising its human rights.


    Craigs name is mentioned before the NeoLabour party and its other head, Camerons coven the toff ta-wee’s.

  • George Dutton

    Craig Murray speaks the truth.

    18 July 2009

    “That Washington is prepared to embark on such a course is a measure of the desperate position of US imperialism, which is in Afghanistan not to fight “terrorism,” but to secure US hegemony in Central Asia, with its vast energy resources. The intensification of the fighting in Afghanistan and its extension across the border into Pakistan, however, will heighten instability throughout the region, sowing the seeds for a far greater conflagration.”…

    Men of honour…

  • mary

    At last with 5 days to go before the election, Craig is given a mention on the BBC.

    On Thursday both 24 hr news channels, BBC and Sky, carried live coverage of Col Thorneloe’s funeral at the Guards Chapel with HRH PC and the DoC in attendance to add gravitas and recognition to the sad proceedings.

    Yesterday Sky were broadcasting live from Plymouth the funeral of 18 year old Trooper Joshua Hammond of the Tank Regiment. His colleagues were in attendance and looked like children, An Irishman Enda Brady was doing the commentary and it was revolting. All buttons were being pushed to arouse the viewers’ ‘patriotism’. Bagpipes were played following a gun salute.

    My paper, the Surrey Advertiser, a weekly in the Guardian group, has the front page headlined ‘Parents so proud of their son killed…… and a whole page inside of photos and reports of the Princess of Wales Regiment marching through Guildford. I was not in the gawping crowd.

    There is obvious MOD and No. 10 involvement in this manipulative crapoganda distributed by the MSM. What a waste of lives! It should be NON Est Dulce et Decorum Pro Patria Mori unless in self defence.


  • anticant

    But they died to keep terrorism off the streets of Britain. The Great Gordo himself has told us so.

    Crapoganda indeed!

  • KevinB


    Talking shit as usual…..

    Quote: “Come off it, 3,000 died. Osama has admitted it….”

    Actually, he denied it:

    The ‘Osama’ who ‘admitted it was a ridiculous (not very)look-alike, obviously a CIA stooge who wore, in very unIslamic fashion, gold rings on his fingers and wrote with the wrong hand.

    Furthermore the FBI declared that there is no hard evidence against Bin Laden:

  • George Dutton

    10 Jun 2009

    “Fuel poverty in the UK is getting worse despite government efforts to eradicate the problem by next year, a group of MPs have warned.”…

    “despite government efforts”…I don’t think so…

    27, Mar 2009

    “The fuel poverty bill was unable to make progress last week because so few MP’s turned out to vote, a lobby group said today.”

    “The Federation of Private Residents Association (FPRA) have today asked why just seven per cent of Labour MPs and ten per cent of Conservative MP’s turned out to vote, meaning the bill was 11 votes short of the requirement to make progress.”…

    Understandable really,too busy filling out their expenses.

    After an eternity of Tory and Labour governments…

    The state of the nation…

    It’s ALL about to get MUCH worse.The Tories and New Labour will tell us all AGAIN…Things will get better tomorrow,just keep voting for us..but with them tomorrow NEVER comes.

  • KevinB

    eddie’s passionate concern for the plight of Muslim women is mightily impressive. Great will be his reward in heaven for being possessed of such compassion.

    It is a pity this compassion does not extend to the million plus Iraqis and Afghans that have been murdered in their own countries by the representative of our glorious humanitarian venture. Of course many Muslim women are among the mountains of corpses we have created.

    How unfortunate for them, when we have created a situation where there’s a good chance they could have gone to geography lessons if they had so choosen.

    Don’t mention vomit again, eddie.

    Fucking don’t.

    By the way, Craig’s strongest moment in the Norwich North hustings on Thursday was, in my opinion, when he said that the Afghan President and his ally General Dostum of the Northern Alliance were among the biggest drug dealers on the face of the earth and that the British Army were in Afghanistan to protect an American oil pipeline.

    He didn’t mention western governments’ interest in the opium crop, nor that our troops are protecting it….

    …however, it was a worthwhile moment …..when some very lazy commonly accepted lies were vehemently challenged.

    The Labour government are very worried about the public’s perception of the Afghan mission. They even wheeled out Sir Gus O’Donnell (GOD) last sunday to make their case on The Politics Show.

    O’Donnell wittered on about establishing ‘democracy’ and improvements in education for females.

    Typical mind-warping rubbish.

    (I went to school with Gus and played football with him. He had the best manners in all England then and so it is now….that is obviously what makes him so useful. Like Blair, he has the manner of the very best, most trustworthy salesman. It is unfortunate that he puts his skills in service of what can only be described as evil. One can only wonder what happened to the guy. Being a gentleman is not enough.)

  • anon

    I don’t like how this country treats its women at the moment, sexualising teenage girls, but this country’s colonialism is a bigger issue, and we are here to discuss the BIG issues. Eddie is a shrill, or virulent shill, who is paid to deviate as much as possible.

    Plenty of crapaganda on the BBC’s Week at Westminster this morning, in worship of the Milibands, ( opposite of broadband ). Apparently someone might get hold of a nuclear bomb in the region of Pakistan, so we have to go and de-stabilise the area, to assist. The fact that UK nuclear bombs hold you and I to ransom as human shields, and have done for half a century is not considered.

    Still waiting for the miliband connection to reach my brain. Maybe their logic works like homeopathy. You dilute commonsense to the millionth part and it starts to cure.

  • dreoilin

    “Oh and Drearylin, “the plight of Afghan women is nether here nor there”? Now that DOES make me want to throw up. Over you preferably.”

    Don’t you dare cut off half of one of my sentences and try to pretend that that is what I was saying. Your tactics here are both juvenile and deceitful. You’re at your wits end trying to score points. The above is not the way to do it.

  • eddie

    KevinB – A couple of my friends are Salesians who were at school with Gus. I wonder if they know you? I can imagine that you were bullied.

    Internationalism – anticant et al, if we took your approach we would still have slavery and cannibalism across the world. “Oh yes, those people eat each other but it’s nothing to do with us -it’s their charming culture” – bollocks says I. What are the limits of your non-interference?

  • anticant

    Yes, when I see Hillary and little Milipede loftily lecturing Iranians, North Koreans and others about the impertinence of their nuclear ambitions, I always wonder if it ever occurs to them that if they offered to give up the US, UK and Israeli nuclear stockpiles if Russia and other nuclear powers did the same, the world would instantaneously become a dramatically safer place? The small reductions agreed by Obama and Medvedev are, of course, merely token, when both retain more than enough nuclear warheads to destroy the entire planet two or three times over.

    But in their usual magnificently blinkered fashion, ‘our’ leaders blandly assume that anything WE do is for the good of everyone else.

    eddie prattles about internationalism. It’s far too long since serious nuclear disarmament proposals were on the international agenda.

  • anticant

    eddie, if I were a cannibal and you were a missionary I would gleefully pop you into my boiling pot, even though knowing perfectly well that you are inedible.

    What I like so much about you is that like a gormless trout you rise to every fly that’s cast over you – the gaudier the better.

  • mary

    Eddie the Head (Wikipedia)


    Eddie’s full name is Edward The Head (Edward T.H?”?” the remainder of his surname is hidden by a clump of soil on the Live After Death cover.) Other plays on Eddie’s name can be seen in the Video Game (based on him) Ed Hunter. The name originates from the following old joke:

    Eddie the head was born with no body, no arms, and no legs. All he had was a head. But despite this major birth defect, his parents still loved him very much. So on his sixteenth birthday, his parents found a doctor that could surgically give Eddie a body. When the parents got home, they couldn’t wait to tell him that he could finally have a body and be like other normal people. When Eddie got there, they were really excited and said, “Have we got a surprise for you. It’s the best present ever!” They showed him, and Eddie said, “Oh no, not another fuckin’ hat!”

    Iron Maiden gave the name “Eddie” to that mask.

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