The Incredibly Talentless Patrick Wintour 251

It is amazing just how far you can get with the right family connections plus a slavish devotion to licking the arse of the powers that be. Ladies and gentleman, I give you Patrick Wintour, as talentless a piece of servile scum as ever disgraced the once fine profession of journailsm.

Here we have quite possibly the worst piece of political journalism in British history. Even given that it is supposed to be a puff piece by someone as openly critical of New Labour as Himmler was of Hitler, it is pathetic. What information precisely is it meant to convey?

The astonishing thing is that the completely intellect free Wintour is actually the political editor of the Guardian. I get so angry about the Guardian because it was once – within my lifetime – truly a great newspaper.

I offer £100 cash to anyone who can show me a piece of genuine journalism by Wintour – and to make it fair, commenters on the blog can vote whether it is genuine or not. On the debit side, allow me m’lud to enter this atrocious Blair apologia:

Tony Blair to tell Chilcot inquiry: war stopped Saddam building WMDsFormer PM expected to tell inquiry that without military action Saddam would have built WMD using the team of scientists he had assembled for the task

Not a single word of scepticism about the bonkers Blair narrative from Wintour.

In fact, I should be fascinated to know if anyone can unearth any evidence that lickarse Wintour has ever asked any New Labour politician a sensibly critical question.

Why precisely is Wintour’s £220k a year salary and expenses paid by the C P Scott trust and not by New Labour?

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251 thoughts on “The Incredibly Talentless Patrick Wintour

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  • arsalan


    He could of but we now know that he isn’t because he wasn’t clever enough to think of that.

    Instead he said, he wakes up early.

    But that doesn’t explain why his final post ends so early, a time when Americans would be coming home from work and switching on their computers.

    There is a different in phase of his post indicating a time difference, but it is plus 2 not -6.

    Indicating he is in one of the following countries: Egypt, Turkey, South Africa, Finland and Israel.

    Now which of these countries do you think someone who hates Muslims and loves Israel so much would come from?

  • Arsalan

    Craig can answer this if his page logs IP addresses and servers of posts.

    He could also answer whether the new bunch are just Larry trying to show others share his racism.

  • anno

    Notswithstanding the enourmous respect from yourself technicolour, I was obviously exaggerating in saying that you are a follower of this religion. I apologise for that. Nevertheless I am utterly convinced that this is the basic religion of this country, although you can find Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc as well if you look carefully.

    This inverted religion is the one that I was brought up in. Don’t talk about right and wrong. You are forbidden to talk about what other people may or may not have done. Don’t let me catch you doing it again.

    What I do know is that this is the religion which my parents, friends, church, medics, schools, colleges, etc have tried to instruct me in from an early age.

    Who are you to question your government?

    How do you have the arrogance to think you know better than them? Where do find the evidence to criticise from? Why are you wasting your time thinking about right and wrong? What right do you think to suppose that the texts of ancient scriptures have any relevance to our time? How do you know that your propaganda is right and everybody else’s understanding of the world is wrong? Why do you think that we are going to help you, when you bring all these problems of people disagreeing with you on your own shoulders by disagreeing with people all the time?

    i.e. Isn’t it obvious to you, YET, that in order to succeed in this world, you have to give up your own opinions and stop winding everybody else up all the time. Yes, my friend, they all, including you, think that Muslims spend our whole time just trying to annoy.

    But Allah (swta)gives us a prayer in tHe Qur’an, roughly translated.

    Oh Allah forgive us our transgressions outside your commands in our actions, and do not allow us to be just an ANNOYANCE FOR THE OPPRESSORS/DISBELIEVERS, but strengthen our foothold in our positions and give us a great victory soon.


  • stephen


    Because you asked if anyone had posted in response to Craig’s original challenge/question. Remember Wintour wrote the article in 2003.

  • anno

    The pro-Israel Foreign Office agent I mentioned earlier was called Aubrey Wolton. He told me that he had been active in setting up the Israeli state. He was equally dismissive of Jesus pbuh as of Islam, which is why I was reminded of him by Larynx loosener and the other gobshite.

  • anno

    Larry’s minders have taken him off-line for a Baker-day. No problem for their minders if they insult the prophet Muhammad, Allah’s last messenger, may God’s blessings and peace be upon him, but they forgot that their cover in this country is to pretend they are Christians. Yesterday that cover was well and truly blown! Tomorrow the voice of the Rothschilds will crackle over our TV screens ( I haven’t got one ) like the James Bond cat-stroking masterminds of world domination, and give us our instructions direct from a cloud hovering over Jerusalem!

  • MJ

    arsalan: I wouldn’t worry too much about where Larry is. Just be thankful he’s not here. Even if he is in Israel, take comfort from the fact that such a clueless, empty-headed buffoon is the best they can come up with.

    Incidentally, on a theological point, I note your earlier remark about “the part of the Bible where Jesus talks of the Prophet that will come to next”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you’re referring here to the prophet referred to by Moses (not Jesus) in Deuteronomy 18 and 34.

    Most Christian scholars of course claim this prophet is Jesus.

  • mary

    The war on terrrrr contd/…

    Did anyone else think it odd when seeing the item on the news last night that the Moscow underground had been cleaned up and re-opened the same day? Another false flag perhaps?

    Putin says the perpetrators should be ‘scraped from the bottom of the sewer’. I should imagine that he is very familar with that location.

  • MJ

    Yes mary, I also thought that was very odd. So much for collecting evidence. I also find it odd that no-one has claimed responsibility.

  • Anonymous

    MJ, No, I was referring to the New Testament.

    In English versions they usually translate it as comforter/counsellor.

    John 14:16 (New International Version)

    16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever

    John 15:26 (New International Version)

    26″When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.

    John 16:7 (New International Version)

    7But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

    The dispute about how these verses should be interpreted goes in to the Greek words. And which Aramaic word they were translated from.

    Muslims say,

    Paracletos(the word used in the Greek) is the warped reading for Periclytos. It Translates back in to Aramaic as Ahmed. Which is one of the names of the Prophet pbh and the name the Quran says Jesus Pbh referred to Mohummed pbh as.

    Muslims believe in Jesus, so we wouldn’t dispute the meanings of the verses of the old testament that Christians say refer to Jesus pbh. But I have heard Muslims and Christians debating over some of them in which Muslims said the description more closely describes Mohummed pbh.

    I really don’t want to go too deeply in to this, because I don’t know much about the Bible, Greek or Aramaic.

    I think Anno might be a better person to ask about this stuff.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    Eddie Goldberg: as to the issue of what time zone I’m in, one question: if you miss a train, do you automatically blames the JOOOOOOOSSS?

  • mary

    Gosh that brought LfStL running. Just 2 minutes to make his predictable response.

    Surely DNA would have to be collected as would the remains be identified and gathered and scene of crime photos taken. In this country, maybe not in Israhell, roads are closed for the whole of the day when there has been a fatal accident.

    MJ is spot on about no one claiming responsibility.

  • anno


    I’m a bit rusty on the Gospels. It is a canon of Islam that all the prophets, peace be upon them all, were informed of the last, great prophet (saw).

    Arsalan will know better than me where these prophecies are recorded in the Bible. All that I know is that in the Bible the name is transliterated as ‘the highly praised one ‘ rather than given as a name. Obviously the Messiah was prophecied, I don’t care where, as I have the evidence of the Qur’an that he was Al-Masih, the anointed one.

    I have given the two references in the Gospels in an earlier post prophecying the last prophet,peace be upon him.

    One is the question Jesus pbuh asked about who they thought he was, and they replied by asking him if he was the Messiah, Elijah returned or the great prophet who is to come. SAW.

    The other is when Jesus pbuh says that after him will come another, who will confirm everything he has said, make everything clear and speak only what he hears ( from the angel Gabriel ) peace be upon all of them. This is normally taken to refer to a gift of the Angel Gabriel being sent to the Christians, enabling them to speak in tongues.

    Meanwhile Larynx loosener is worse than spit,because the prophets were given miracles of healing from Allah with spit. His new name is Lazy Izraeli or Laz for short because he can’t be bothered to get out of bed in time.

  • Jives

    Yeah i saw that on the news last night and thought it exremely odd indeed.

    Surely the scene of a terrorist crime would’ve taken weeks to examine forensically?

    How it had all been cleaned away and the trains back running was eerie and didn’t ring true at all.

    Very strange.

  • MJ

    arsalan: yes but in John 14.26 Jesus defines the Comforter as the Holy Ghost, not a prophet. Elsewhere of course he also advises us to beware false prophets. He also points out that even angels can be Satan in disguise…

  • Larry from St. Louis

    dreoilin – just to demonstrate how completely clueless you are.

    You write: “Unfortunately, yes, they do count (at least up to ten). They’re part of the same Boo-Hoo-Becky crowd who carry guns to political rallies, or shoot out the windows of Democrat offices when they lose the health care vote. Brownshirt thugs. They are the crazies of the USA, who unfortunately have votes as well as guns, and aspire to put Ms Palin in the White House.”

    1. The men in Phoenix who brought weapons to the rally (one being an AR-15) were members of a group called Freedom’s Phoenix. Nut jobs for sure. One predictable thing about them is that THEY BELIEVE THAT 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB YOU FUCKING LOON. (i.e., more in common with you than me).

    2. It was a Republican whose office was shot after the vote. Still a bad thing, but not necessarily connected with the health care vote, AND IT WAS A FUCKING REPUBLICAN YOU FUCKING CLUELESS MORON.

    Do you choose to be dumb or were you born that way? Perhaps it’s having spent years under the rule of the Pope. I just saw Angela’s Ashes over the weekend (nothing else one). A movie of course, but it highlighted what’s it is like to grow up under a government that tells you that some space god has all sorts of demands on you. But he loves you, etc.

    You write: “mid-forties, with the prerequisite Harley …’anti-semitic'”

    If you think that guys who own Harleys spend their time worried about anti-Semitism, then you’re simply complicit in your own extreme ignorance.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    So is this now a 911 truth / Jew-hating blog or a religious instructiong blog?

  • Arsalan

    Read John 14:16 explains it.

    ‘Another’ is the key word.

    And Muslims do believe all the Prophets pbh warned their people about a coming false Prophet, Known to the Muslims as Dajal, and to the Christians as the Anti Christ.

    I’m not saying Israel and America take their orders from that man, but they are doing a very good impression of nations that are.

  • arsalan


    This is the LArry hating blog. Where people discuss why they hate Larry her mother.

    MJ, When you read stuff written by Larry, Can’t you see Antichrist written all over it?

  • anno


    Sorry to butt in. The Gospels are a record of a book called the Injeel, which probably exists somewhere locked up because it is different from the versions of the evangelists M<M<Luke and John.

    The Gospels state that the custodianship of the religion of Islam was changed because people did not believe in their prophet Jesus (AS) By the time the religion was accepted three centuries later by Constantine it had been changed out of all recognition.

    We can’t take the evangelist’s writings as 100% true because the Injeel was confiscated and these writers or their writings came under the influence and control of revisionists. Muslims are not permitted to take knowledge from previous writings because we do not know which parts have been altered, what has been ommitted and what was the meaning of them.

    The Holy Ghost in the Qur’an is the Angel Gabriel, ‘alaihi salaam, who informed the prophets of Allah’s commands sometimes by wahi, inspiration and sometimes by other means and who brought down the Qur’an. pbut.

    The Christians got the idea that they were being offered the same deal as the prophets. We don’t have any knowledge of that, and we have certain knowledge that wahi, is only given to prophets, not George Bush and Tony Blair and anyone else listening to the whisperings of Satan to finish off Islam.

  • Craig


    “So is this now a 911 truth / Jew-hating blog or a religious instructiong blog?”

    Don’t be an arsehole. Anybody can comment on this blog. This blog does not support 9/11 conspiracy theory any more than it supports your neo-con views. You are all just commenters, You know that very well. Now behave.

  • MJ

    anno, I see myself as a spiritual person but not a religious one. I follow theology but have no particular axe to grind. There is much that I admire in Islam thought. Unlike Christianity for instance it does not get its theological knickers in a twist with that Holy Trinity nonsense. But if there is a flaw in Islam it surely lies in the Angel Gabriel stuff. Why did Allah not reveal himself directly to Mohammed, face to face?

  • anno


    If you read a very short way into the Qur’an, you will find a description of the occasion when the Children of Israel asked to see God plainly. They were all struck dead and the mountain destroyed. Moses pbuh was told to look at the mountain in the opposite direction. He was blinded unconscious merely by the reflection. I’m not a scholar, so don’t take my word for the precise meaning of the Qur’an.

  • anno

    ‘theological knickers’

    Would those be the ones I see, high, high high-high-high, scholars of the Hindu religion wearing on their heads when leave the Delhi plane?

    Expecting a whacking from Craig, for that, or even multiple deletions.

  • Clark


    I usually read every day, but I don’t always feel that I have anything to add. I wanted to wish you well as you had just been the target of such vile abuse; I know you have a good conscience.


    I suspect that most of the more troublesome commenters here use a proxy, so that the IP addresses they leave in Craig’s server logs will be misleading or uninformative.


    there seems to be an fairly direct relationship between how open about themselves a commenter is and how compassionate and moral their comments are. No surprise there, then.

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