Now is the Winter of our Disinterment 699


The researchers had a hunch he was there. ATOS pass Richard III’s skeleton as fit to work.

Joking aside, the discovery of Richard III’s body is fascinating and wonderful. Aside from Shakespeare’s brilliant play (which is evidently not as physically inaccurate as we have been told for years), and the question of who killed the Princes in the Tower, there is a romance about lost dynasties which appeals to a deep human yearning for a golden age when things were somehow better, and for “lost futures”. What might have been, had those evil Stanleys not turned on Richard at Bosworth and put their miserable Welsh accountant on the throne?

Richard is described in today’s newspapers as the last English King. The Plantagenets were of course Angevin. The last English King – indeed the only English King of all England – was Harold Godwinson. Now there’s a lost dynasty for you.

We now know that Richard’s “Claim of Right” was almost certainly true and Edward IV a bastard, as his father was nowhere near his mother for months around the purported conception. But the so-called Royal line is, I am quite sure, sprinkled with bastards and no line at all. Not to mention that George I was 39th in line to the throne when given it 300 years ago, but the first Protestant.

Monarchy is bollocks, and something we should have outgrown a long time ago. Nice to see that today’s Prince Harry retains the tradition of remorseless homicide though.

Leicester University deserve congratulations on a genuine achievement. I hope Richard can now be reburied as soon as possible – as a Catholic, which is what he was. He was a human being. The degradation and display of his fresh corpse were horrible; but there is a danger of repeating it with a po face and feigned serious intent.


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  • Clark

    Further to the discussion of organic farming methods, organic farming and climate change:

    https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/02/07

    The article makes the mistake of concentrating on advising people to change their shopping habits. That can work, when people of many nations act against a single country or company. For instance, the boycott of South African goods was effective against apartheid. But the number of people involved in the boycott has to be overwhelmingly large compared with the output of the targeted producers.

    When the buying population’s consumption is comparable with the producers’ output, the effect of a boycott is to reduce demand. The market reacts by lowering the price of the boycotted goods, and consumers outside the boycott increase their consumption, subtracting from the effect of the boycott. The principle is described in this article, about supply-side vs. demand-side policies:

    http://www.monbiot.com/2007/12/11/rigged/

    Governments can change farming practices far more effectively by passing laws and changing economic conditions, by changing taxation and subsidies etc.

  • Villager (Life is Sacred)

    ThatCrab, i think it was you that presented me with a link on that lovely girl playing Steven Vai–thank you.

    Someone also referred to the most boring list of Desert Island discs.

    Here’s one i can recommend–a relatively obscure Dylan song but beautiful, great lyrics too. Abandoned Love:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_b9jdjmoNE

    George harrison’s version:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2HKZRkhuk

    Then another song by George harrison’s guru’s daughter, Norah Jones:

    oh but before that another version by an oh-so-sweet boy…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RUsdkZUFi8

    So then….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwFcmPwYyr4

    the song has 1,139,990 plays of which roughly 139,990 are mine!

    the feel of love in their presentation is just touching. reminds me of a leonard cohen concert i saw a few years ago at The Auditorium in Roma…5,000 people oudoord…cohen 75 yrs old, humble as hell–the feeling of love in the whole audience, you could cut it with a knife. Music, God’s language and the shared feeling, the sacredness of life!

    PS Mark Golding please do listen to the abandoned love lyrics…

  • karel

    Mary

    it is my impression that you prefer writing to reading. Not just an impression but a fact. If you had some time to read my insignificant contributions you would have noticed that I made the same point as you about the moronic halibabas vita but already on 9th Feb, 2013 – 10:39 pm. Something you somehow managed to discover only two days later. I know that it is fashionable nowadays not to read but to write a lot to be noticed. But what is the fucking point of this spaming if I may so courteously ask you??

    doug scorgie

    The same as fo Mary. you wrote about the pardon of the three Perezites on 11 Feb, 2013 – 6:31 pm, saying basicallly the same as what I wrote on 10 Feb, 2013 – 8:56 pm

    I must be hopelessly old fashioned but I was always taught that you should cite whatever appeared before your own mental excretions are printed or posted. It is at least so in science and whoever transgresses against this rule just discredits himself. Failing to follow such simple rules may cause you, Mary and Doug to slide to the level of the demented halibaba residents.

  • Villager (Democracy/Version B-52)

    Couldn’t resist this getting this out there again:

    “I’m sentimental, if you know what I mean
    I love the country but I can’t stand the scene.
    And I’m neither left or right
    I’m just staying home tonight,
    getting lost in that hopeless little screen.
    But I’m stubborn as those garbage bags
    that Time cannot decay,
    I’m junk but I’m still holding up
    this little wild bouquet:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.”

    Leonard Cohen, one of my favourite poets, still going strong. May the Universe bless him!!!

    Live in london
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHI9BTpGkp8

    And the B-52 version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqTUEP6Ndvo

  • Villager

    Karel, i recall reading your Benigni remark. But please don’t compare either Mary or Doug to that Habitual Babbler. Be generous, my friend.

    Pacem in Terris, and enjoy some music.

  • Clark

    karel, this comments section has only recently reacquired its usual friendly atmosphere. Please, if you feel that your comments aren’t getting the credit they deserve, please just submit something like “I pointed that out two days ago”, with a link to the appropriate comment.

  • guano

    Cryptonym

    If I was as shallow thinking as you, I wouldn’t consider myself to be a human at all. When I see Saddam, I see Mrs Thatcher behind him pushing him to war, and Zionist spies behind her pushing him to genocide by false reports.

    When I see religious people overinforcing God’s laws, I see wrong doing, but also behind that the persecution of those pious people by those who hate God’s laws. Those who are not grateful for the means of survival and who want to illegally appropriate the means of survival of others, torture the pious in order to make them appear unreasonable. Torture means torture.

    Drilling into the skulls, raping of women and men with broken bottles, hanging upside down, electrocution etc, to distort the beauty of their souls that love and are grateful to God.
    When you have experienced the torture yourself, then try to not be a control freak over others’ behaviour.

  • Kempe

    “The British government has refused to give assurances that it wil not consent to Sweden/US extradition.”

    No doubt it has made similar comments regarding extradition direct from the UK which is exactly my point.

  • karel

    Clark,

    it may seem trivial but it is not. I may be too harsh what I write but would you enjoy that this cheerful solipsist culture of discourse spreads throughout this blog??

  • Villager

    Kempe:No doubt it has made similar comments regarding extradition direct from the UK which is exactly my point.

    Kempe, i don’t really see what you’re leading to. How can Julian be extradited from the UK when he is in Ecuador? Are you suggesting the americans would make an application even while he is in the Embassy. Is that practicable?

  • Clark

    “Blessed are the cheese-makers?”

    “I’m sure he means all other makers of diary produce, too”

    “Oh come on, let’s go to a stoning”

  • Villager

    I might add that i think it would be a good idea to give Julian a diplomatic position and a passport to boot and up the ante. After all he and Correa really do seem to get along well and have somilar lateral views re the USofA e.g. Ecuador gets a military base in Miami in return for the US their old base in Ecuador

  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    Very good Dave Lawton – it is murder, it is assassination – Interestingly to me is the phenomenal and outstanding 46% growth of Russia Today(RT), especially in America where RT won an award nomination for the coverage of the Occupy Wall Street movement and in Britain with an audience of more than 3.7 Million(BARB).

    Bravo!

  • Cryptonym

    Guano: The unsupportable existence of this ‘God’ thing, does not free any person from by themselves correctly distinguishing right from wrong. Do you admit the existence of wrongdoing which doesn’t revolve around over-enforcing of ‘God’s’ laws or disobedience, indeed, even, scorn for them -as much for their delusional origins as for much of their content. Are the people over-enforcing ‘God’s’ laws not also then really then amongst those who hate them, to bring them into disrepute, ridicule and render irrelevant –all religions eating themselves. What don’t you agree with, that the controlled media and the state – who often do the controlling -have not at some time assumed and wielded for ill, not for good, the power over the masses that religion once commanded and used in the same way? A search for status and power by its self-selected elites and devotees, who would otherwise clutter the asylums or gutters or seek those unworthy prizes by some other route. The religious just would-be but unqualified elitists or pretend royalty, bereft of hereditary presumption.

    I might scoff at the religious, but remain scrupulously respectful and never discrimatory, that certainly isn’t even close to torturing them.

    I might almost agree with the saintly Saddam picture, poor tricked, manipulated; apportion some blame elsewhere, concentrate it on those who found in him a kindred wickedness and jerked on his strings, but no-one is pushed to genocide, such evil must be there, inherent, exploitably, explosively latent. It’s not just the mass-murderer but those who placed chemical warfare agents in his grabbing hands. He would probably had his (or our) long war with Iran, not came to an end by his defeat, used them against Iran (as intended?) with the US and its preening dominions goading and cheering him on.

  • karel

    Clark,

    congratulation. I wrote about the solipsist culture and you refer (I hope that it is not a response) to “Blessed are the cheese-makers?” An excellent example of a parallel universe. As Kipling would have remarked “never the twain shall meet”.

  • Jives

    The problem,for me,about The Pope tweeting “we are all sinners” is the assumed inclusiveness of an abstract statement.

    It’s like science,rhetoric,reason and freedom of choice never happened.

    I’m not religious at all so why should he be so bold as to assume “we” all share his purview-without at least qualification of his own sect.

    We may all be confused,shallow,stupid,hypocrites-at times-but his arrogant edict tells its own tale i guess.

    If an 85 year old drunk man in a bar riffed out,in his cups,”we are all sinners” i’d simply nod at him quizzically and move away.

    Sorry O/T i know but i wanted to raise the point.

  • thatcrab

    “would you enjoy that this cheerful solipsist culture of discourse spreads throughout this blog?”
    There are too many things going on for anyone to be taking offence (and forwarding it) that someone has/does not read them. A demand for self and all to be read is as near solipsistic as the bogglingly complex concept might casually apply :p

  • thatcrab

    In his autobiography Dylan somewhat denounces his work as purely artistic. He admits and it is easy to see, how he abandoned or never actually connected with the social movements which. He had an huge talent, excercised it and then very much retreated from where it was taking him and everyone else. He retreated to private fulfillment, family, music, riches. He was intelligent and informed enough to be aware the great danger he was in while affecting the politics of a generation with his art. He didnt sell out, but he did bow out, and live the mans dream.

  • karel

    thatcRab,

    I am uncertain whether you understood what soliptic culture means in this particular context. A solipsist does not expect to be read. He just writes. Is it too much, even in our inflationary times, to expect from someone who wants to write something nice about goats to check whether others may have already written something similar? Otherwise every fool could think that he invented the wheel. It may surprise you that numerous patent applications are filed by such soliptic clowns who have to be told that someone already did it 100 or more years ago. I find it funny why would anyone want to bother to participate in this kind of I parallel discussion in the style of two little girls where one says “my dad has a yellow car” and the other girl retorts, “our dog has fleas”.

  • Courtenay Barnett

    Murray,

    You said:-

    ” Monarchy is bollocks”

    and I could not agree more. Only thing is – you should compelete the sentence in the correct way:-

    Monarchy is bollocks – designed to maintain the status quo and knight and embrace those who accept the task.

    Funny how it works with Lord this and Sir that – all to the greater “good” of the mission.And at the head of it – our “beloved Queen” – indeed – Sir Craig!

  • Courtenay Barnett

    Craig,

    Should you read the debate below my article, and exchanges with Fawkes ( I suspect – FCO man) then the whole exchange and observations give some new meaning to this distorted concept of “globalisation” and the impact of rogue international finance capital. If you do consider seriously the implications of what I have said – you will surely understand just where Cameron fits in – despite his belated distancing:-

    http://inquiringminds.cc/letter-turks-and-caicos-consultative-forum-got-it-right-first-i-respectfully-believe-that-you-are-embracing-a-myth-when-you-assume-such-high-untainted-british-standards-courtenay-barnett

    I remain convinced that the corruption flows from the top down – not in reverse.

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