The Official Tsarnaev Story Makes No Sense 343


There are gaping holes in the official story of the Boston bombings.

We are asked to believe that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was identified by the Russian government as an extremist Dagestani or Chechen Islamist terrorist, and they were so concerned about it that in late 2010 they asked the US government to take action. At that time, the US and Russia did not normally have a security cooperation relationship over the Caucasus, particularly following the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. For the Russians to ask the Americans for assistance, Tsarnaev must have been high on their list of worries.

In early 2011 the FBI interview Tsarnaev and trawl his papers and computers but apparently – remarkably for somebody allegedly radicalised by internet – the habitually paranoid FBI find nothing of concern.

So far, so weird. But now this gets utterly incredible. In 2012 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who is of such concern to Russian security, is able to fly to Russia and pass through the airport security checks of the world’s most thoroughly and brutally efficient security services without being picked up. He is then able to proceed to Dagestan – right at the heart of the world’s heaviest military occupation and the world’s most far reaching secret police surveillance – again without being intercepted, and he is able there to go through some form of terror training or further Islamist indoctrination. He then flies out again without any intervention by the Russian security services.

That is the official story and I have no doubt it did not happen. I know Russia and I know the Russian security services. Whatever else they may be, they are extremely well-equipped, experienced and efficient and embedded into a social fabric accustomed to cooperation with their mastery. This scenario is simply impossible in the real world.

We have, by the official account, the involvement of the two Tsarnaev brothers, the FBI and the Russian security services. The FBI have a massive recent record of running agent provocateur operations to entrap gullible Muslims into terrorism. The Russian security services have form on false flag Chechen bombings. Where the truth lies may be difficult to dig out. But the above official version is not true.


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  • Courtenay Barnett

    @ Giles,
    You ask:-
    “Come on, Sheeple! Had the suspect been named Tray D. Ranged from Oddball, Alabama, would you all be looking for a conspiracy?”
    However, surely and question is the reverse it is not the lone Amercian oddball – but – otherwise rational, bright and enterprising youngsters who the US government is trying to convince us, for no obvious or so-far evident suddenly become terrorists. You might then ask:-
    “Come on, Sheeple! Since the suspects have Chechen names and came to the United State, you are logically looking for credible connections and explanations because it is the US government releasing information inferring, if not directly alleging Muslim, Islamic terrorist connections – so you want to verify that there was such an Islamic conspiracy as official sources are suggesting –aren’t you?
    So far the official version of events surrounding the Boston bombing actually does leave more questions than credible answers.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    MLK’s killer was certainly most suspicious. Lots of acreage in print about that one. Think too of the JFK killing – now that is the most written-about political assasination in the history of the world. Thomas Hamilton/Dunblane, likewise – massive conspiracy theories about links to judges and goodness knows who. Nothing to do with Muslims, Giles. The killers – whichever versions one believes – in these cases were all all white guys and lots of people have linked the killings to govt agencies or similar cabals. So it seems that there is little evidence for what you are suggesting.

  • Courtenay Barnett

    CORRECTIONS:-
    @ Giles,
    You ask:-
    “Come on, Sheeple! Had the suspect been named Tray D. Ranged from Oddball, Alabama, would you all be looking for a conspiracy?”
    However, surely the question is the reverse. It is not the lone American oddball – but – otherwise rational, bright and enterprising youngsters who the US government is trying to convince us, for no obvious or so-far evident, suddenly become terrorists. You might then ask:-
    “Come on, Sheeple! Since the suspects have Chechen names and came to the United States, you are logically looking for credible connections and explanations because it is the US government releasing information inferring, if not directly alleging Muslim, Islamic terrorist connections – so you want to verify that there was such an Islamic conspiracy as official sources are suggesting –aren’t you?
    E.g. One brother’s trip back home for six (6) is being touted as not just a trip related to a family reunion, but it is being suggested that the visits relates to preparation for a terrorist attack.
    Well – was it so – or was it not? That is, at least, one of the questions.
    So far the official version of events surrounding the Boston bombing actually does leave more questions than credible answers.

  • Courtenay Barnett

    @ GILES,

    So far as a lone American killer is concerned – one can ask logical questions about how the shooting took place. Having met and spoken, at lenght, to the ghost writer for James Earl Ray – this is what I had to say:-

    I MET A MAN –OR, WAS IT JAMES EARL RAY WHO KILLED DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING?

    I met a man. His name was Tupper Saussy. He happened to have been the ghost writer for a book by James Earl Ray, entitled “ Tennessee Waltz” published in 1987. The book gives Ray’s account of the events to state that he did not kill Dr. King.

    Saussy’s view, in his long conversations with me, was that James Earl Ray was not Dr. King’s murderer and he explained to me in considerable detail why Ray was not the killer, then gave me a copy of the book which I then read.

    On Thursday, the 3rd April, 2008, I watched a CNN special on the eve of the anniversary of Dr. King’s assassination. The book came back to mind and I asked myself on conclusion of the CNN special – why is CNN trying to confuse the public?

    Before I return to the book’s contents, I would invite the reader to look at the physical location at the Lorraine Motel, where Dr. King was shot, and consider the photographs of the positioning of surrounding buildings, the trajectory of the bullet, and the direction that the witnesses present were all pointing to when the single shot rang out that killed Dr. King. The web site is worth a visit and it is at 🙁http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE1/overlooked.html).

    The reasoning at the web site is sound, the pictures are clear and the conclusions can logically be drawn.

    Back to the book. Read Ray’s own story for yourself and draw your own conclusions. The points I would leave you with are these:-

    A. Why would the witnesses present all be pointing in the direction they heard the shot come from, and CNN be leading the unsuspecting public in 2008 towards some alternative belief that they were pointing elsewhere to a window at a rooming house across the street, from where Ray is supposed to have shot Dr. King?
    B. Is there anything to be made of Ray’s reference to an operative or handler called “Raoul”, and if Ray was this perfect sniper shot who assassinated Dr. King – did he simply conveniently drop all his evidence outside the doorway of the rooming house, to link him to the crime?
    C. If, it was Ray’s doing from reference to B above – then why don’t the test bullets fired from the weapon attributed to Ray not ballistically match the bullet taken from Dr. King – so who did fire the weapon that killed Dr. King?

    Conclusion

    A single person cannot be in two places at the same time. There are two (2) vantage points for the location of the sniper who did the shooting (1) a window from the rooming house and (2) the Gattis penthouse ( to which Andrew Young and all other witnesses are pointing at the time of the shooting).

    Again, carefully review the photographic evidence at the web site:- (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE1/overlooked.html).

    Now – you decide – who killed Dr. Martin Luther King?

    When the state is confronted with legitimate challenges against its destructive polices:-

    “…I knew that I could not ever again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greater purveyor of violence in the world: my own government.” Martin Luther King in his “Beyond Vietnam” 1967 speech.
    it has the power to destroy those who dare speak truth to power. The agents of the government of the United States of America did first attempt to destroy the reputation of Dr. Martin Luther, and used its FBI’s COINTELPRO program to try by criminal means to destroy the credence of those who fought for and sought equal rights and justice. When that failed – well – simply stated, the agents of the state just murdered Dr. King.
    Courtenay Barnett – 4th April, 2008

  • crab

    Im fed up suspending my disbelief of news like this. Ive not got conspiracy theorism! Its not my job to figure out conspiracy, its not one of my talents, but ive got a functioning bullshit detector.

    Undisturbed cafe tables, managed media releasing incompatible statements, generic ‘nothing to see hear’ blogophilic activists amongst sound amature investigations.

    I dont need to know the details, the bullshit is everywhere, this latest incident is just the latest weirdspun microcosm of it.

  • doug scorgie

    Giles
    22 Apr, 2013 – 7:56 pm

    “Just out of interest, were the accused to have been white, far-right extremists, would there have been the same effort put into finding a conspiracy here?”

    Please explain.

  • Courtenay Barnett

    @ Doug,

    Subject to what Giles actually says in reply, he seems to be saying the following:-

    re: “…were the accused to have been white, far-right extremists…”

    A. If White and far-right – just a couple of disgruntled White people angry with their govennment.
    B. Since not White far-rigth, but having Chechen ancestry, there is something assumed to be more sinister.
    C. Enter the “conspiracy theorists” with their “conspiracy theories”.

    I have responded to Giles above; but, this is what I glean he is saying or aiming at.

    Over to you Giles…????

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Courtenay, that’s fascinating, about your contact with the ghost writer. Yes, many people think the state killed MLK. The FBI certainly later overtly killed most of the Black Panther and American Indian Movement leaders.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    Anon; I saw those tweets last week and wondered where Jahar (sic) got such a carefree 19-yr old attitood.

    John Goss; This has been my concern. Watertown was chock full of anxious citizens eager to remain in their homes. There were contractors (including one with a radiation detector) as though in expectation. Ever seen an EQ drill complete with victims displaying putative injuries? This seemed like a dress rehearsal for future events. The police didn’t kick doors in, they knocked.

    Everyone was glad law enforcement took control of their city.

    Related; CISPA was passed on Thurs by the House. Obama has threatened veto. (Har !)

  • crab

    Cheers Maat – Crowd-sourced photographic analysis done better than anything let out of corporate newsrooms.

  • mike

    The brothers were “testing” the security arrangements for the Marathon. The Craft actually setting off the explosives.

    If the younger brother lives and can communicate, this might prove very revealing – if the right people can get to speak to hinm before the wrong people do. Of course he might die of his injuries or get bent out of shape in Guantanamo.

    FEMA are poised. They have the infrastructure and the kit and the Marathon has put them on standby.

    One more bang, of any size, and I think you’ll see the beginnings of martial law in the states, starting in whichever city the bang happens.

  • Johnstone

    911, Sandy Hook, Boston, these faked terror events all have the same hallmarks, over and above the drills. It’s an outrage who did it? AND the media feed the public the evidence of the perpetrators quickly apprehended, maybe killed, and the victims, well are there any? Yes, 911 victims, fire fighters certainly. Sandy Hook, probably none. Not one of the parents I saw interviewed was grieving the loss of a child but that’s a blessing. Boston also contrived a whole city in lockdown madness and media hype. It was not very easy to get to the bottom of how such a massive hoax as 911 could possibly be perpetrated, the immorality , the sheer audacity, the logistics but as the years have gone by the sleuths have figured it out and all the details are explained and anyone who can read can follow the evidence on the internet. The only thing that stops people from going there is a sense that this is cynicism of the very worst sort..and yes it really is. Its hard when even within your own household its taboo to question the official story lines, but don’t believe one word, not one picture or interview that’s been fed through the mass media.

  • Anon

    Mike,

    FEMA may be poised but a small (hand-picked) FBI team rescud him from certain death under orders from on high. After telling suspect #2 he could name his terms, suspect 2 immediately used his last remaining strength to surrender to FBI.

    “We have a conflict we need to resolve right now…Orders are to go for negotiation….HRT must be only team in area…This is the FBI come out under your own terms” – Roughly sums up what was heard.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    Jon; You must be around cuz my 6:29 had a follow-up edit on the word ‘ordnance’ which I spelled incorrectly; now corrected on original post. Do me a favor and tell us when that happens. Spooky.

  • Anon

    “We have a conflict we need to resolve right now

    Conflict of plans they said.

    1) Kill – underway
    2) Rescue – what happened.

  • Rupert Habbabkuk (age 14yrs)

    Adrian is in bed now (thank god we don’t need to see his spelling again so soon) and dad’s floating in his cryo-tank so it falls to me to fly the flag for the Habbabkuks.

    MJ (4 01pm)
    Like my dad says, Waco, there’s nothing there that a quick lick of paint won’t put right. These people are clearly over reacting ………

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skOJNFSVjRk

    No wonder editors are playing down this story.

    Regarding the link you put up. It doesn’t work here. Funny how so many of these conspiracy videos show eror messages soon after going online. Crackpots obviously can’t get their videos to linger. This one still works though…….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skOJNFSVjRk

    As for the flash in the sky to the left of the fire just before the explosion, haven’t you heard of Okkam’s Penknife? Obviously not. Well let me explain to you in little words. Look for the simplest explanation, stupid. It’s clear to see what it must have been, if you only use your imagination properly. It was simply a car windscreen or something reflecting the light the fire up into the clouds. Any other theory is obviously just plain wrong. As for the interesting sound, why can’t you accept that sounds are sometimes just interesting without needing to be analysed?

    Mango (4 53pm)
    My dad gets so cross when leftie low-lives like you attempt to psychoanalyse him. You should know by now that he’s much better at it than the lot of you and has repeatedly shown a detailed understanding of all your individual motivations and psychopathologies.

    He not only totally understands you but he has a brilliant and rapier-like ability in crafting the English language. Just take a moment to marvel again at his contribution tonight…..

    “PS to Frazer : you’ve forgotten the Al-Hillil thread, I guess; that was a real field day for every soothsayer, amateur detective and conspiracy theorist in the blogosphere.”

    Ah, the literary flair of Dickens combined with the intellect of Einstein!

    And the rest of you amateurs pointing to the intact windows of the shops at the Boston blast site. Doesn’t everyone know Boston glaziers are the fastest on the planet. So there’s another of your flackey ideas shot down in flames.

    Just because you present loads of facts doesn’t mean the official story is wrong. It just means you are looking at the wrong facts.

    You will always need need the Habbabkuks to put you right.

  • Anon

    Bem,

    Jon; You must be around cuz my 6:29 had a follow-up edit on the word ‘ordnance’ which I spelled incorrectly; now corrected on original post. Do me a favor and tell us when that happens. Spooky.

    I think it is actually illegal to silently edit others posts. I’ll leave it to “them” to work it out. Either the people who run this forum are idiots or ….something else.

    My money is on both. One day something is going to hit from an unexpected direction,

  • Anon

    My money is on both. One day something is going to hit from an unexpected direction,

    That’s a legal reference. Again for avoidance of doubt.

  • Anon

    Crab,

    There are some people, who think they are not are incredibly naive. Sadly one needs to be on the receiving end to understand.

  • Rupert Habbabkuk (age 14yrs)

    Hi Kempe. Thanks for the picture. Good try!

    No I refer to the blast site outside Forum Cafe and Starbucks. Loads of pictures around. Here are some.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310596/Boston-bombings-latest-FBI-use-phone-records-identify-suspect.html

    So I say again what everybody knows: Boston glaziers really are the fastest on the planet.

    You might want to try crowd sourced images which haven’t passed through the MSM filter like these.

    http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

  • Dreoilin

    Canada to announce arrests after thwarting ‘major terrorist attack’:
    CBC 22 Apr 2013
    Canadian police and intelligence agencies are to announce multiple arrests on Monday after an operation to thwart a “major terrorist attack,” the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation said on Monday, citing unnamed “highly placed” sources.
    The operation was coordinated with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, CBC said.
    http://www.legitgov.org/Canada-announce-arrests-after-thwarting-major-terrorist-attack-CBC

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