There are gaping holes in the official story of the Boston bombings.
We are asked to believe that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was identified by the Russian government as an extremist Dagestani or Chechen Islamist terrorist, and they were so concerned about it that in late 2010 they asked the US government to take action. At that time, the US and Russia did not normally have a security cooperation relationship over the Caucasus, particularly following the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. For the Russians to ask the Americans for assistance, Tsarnaev must have been high on their list of worries.
In early 2011 the FBI interview Tsarnaev and trawl his papers and computers but apparently – remarkably for somebody allegedly radicalised by internet – the habitually paranoid FBI find nothing of concern.
So far, so weird. But now this gets utterly incredible. In 2012 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who is of such concern to Russian security, is able to fly to Russia and pass through the airport security checks of the world’s most thoroughly and brutally efficient security services without being picked up. He is then able to proceed to Dagestan – right at the heart of the world’s heaviest military occupation and the world’s most far reaching secret police surveillance – again without being intercepted, and he is able there to go through some form of terror training or further Islamist indoctrination. He then flies out again without any intervention by the Russian security services.
That is the official story and I have no doubt it did not happen. I know Russia and I know the Russian security services. Whatever else they may be, they are extremely well-equipped, experienced and efficient and embedded into a social fabric accustomed to cooperation with their mastery. This scenario is simply impossible in the real world.
We have, by the official account, the involvement of the two Tsarnaev brothers, the FBI and the Russian security services. The FBI have a massive recent record of running agent provocateur operations to entrap gullible Muslims into terrorism. The Russian security services have form on false flag Chechen bombings. Where the truth lies may be difficult to dig out. But the above official version is not true.
Finally found some pictures of the shootout scene. Does look like the two brothers. Still not explaining how the elder brother went from under arrest to dead though.
http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/7743337-boston-bombing-suspect-shootout-pictures
Dreoilin & anyone interested in the blocking script:
Thanks for the heads up. After some testing I found that it failed if you blocked someone and then unblocked them without reloading the page. I through up a quick fix that you may have seen if you checked in the last hour (forcing the page to reload every time you click a block/unblock button), but I have now just made another update to implement an even better fix (no more reloading, so no extra stress on Craig’s servers). It’s still a bit rough, but when I have more time in a few days I can clean it up a bit. In the meantime it should be working now.
For ResidentDissident, KA and others who wish to argue that the Russian security services aren’t really very efficient or oppressive, and that is the explanation.
I have a challenge for you. Post something serious and very derogatory about Putin, just here, in this comments thread. Then travel to Russia. You will see how “inefficient” they are.
Craig
That isn’t what I said – and I have posted plenty that is derogatory about Putin in the past and probably have rather more connections with Russia than yourself. I also note that you failed to answer my argument as to why Putin would be very unlikely to want to be involved in such an operation at the current time.
What I said was that the Russian authorities were not fully in control of the situation in Dagestan/Chechenya. The Chechen mafia, to which the family concerned may well be connected (and I certainly have my suspicions), is more than capable of getting people past security checks into Dagestan and elsewhere, and also has pretty well know links with Islamist groups.
The quick Russian response to the aftermath of the bombing is suspiciously slick. The offer to help with the investigation at a point when the incident could still have been an entirely US domestic incident shows great ‘foresight’.
The article published on Tuesday regarding Putin’s offer is bizarre given it’s timing in my view. Are the comments at the bottom (linking to Chechnya) the work of Kremlin propagandists? That’s what they read like to me. Such foresight.
ResidentDissident
I don’t think the Chechen Mafia can get listed jihadists into Russia and into Dagestan.
It is important to differentiate between the Chechen criminal mafia, who are ubiquitous in Moscow and very well-connected with Russian politics, from Chechen jihadis – the two ought not be conflated. I quite believe KA’s nightclub stabbing story. But there is a serious difference in the way in which the Chechen mafia and Chechen Islamists will be treated.
The article published on Tuesday in the Moscow Times… I should add!
For completeness sake:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/putin-offers-to-assist-in-boston-bombing-probe/478710.html
Didn’t know you could post links…
Here’s some further commentary on the intriguing Uncle Ruslan’s ties to energy companies, oligarchs, Kazakhstan and the U.S. government, and the arrest of two students who are believed to have known the Boston suspects:
“What Else Does Uncle Ruslan Know?”
http://advanceindiana.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/what-else-does-uncle-ruslan-know.html
“BOSTON TRUTH: The “Chechen Connection”, Al Qaeda and the Boston Marathon Bombings”
“A profile on the Russian social-networking site Vkontakte that appears to belong to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev includes a propaganda clip rallying jihadists to go to Syria to fight alongside rebels there, citing sayings from the Prophet Muhammad. [Amply documented, it just so happens that the jihadist foreign fighters in Syria are recruited by the US and its allies] (Wall Street Journal, op cit.)”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-truth-the-chechen-connection-al-qaeda-and-the-boston-marathon-bombings/5332337
Craig
Well someone is able to move Jihadists around Russia and the Caucauses – I think it would be very difficult to argue that ALL the terrorist activity in Russia was a false flag operation (although I agree with you that Putin has a lot of questions to anaswer about the apartment bombings just befor his election). I think you forget that the Chechen mafia has no little interest in narcotics, a commodity that the Taleban and friends have some access to.
I also suspect that for many Russians their inbuilt hatred of Chechens (in no small part encouraged by their leaders) is such that they make little distinction between whether they are mafia, jihadists or just the vast majority who are ordinary people.
Gladio Plan B, as described by Sibel Edmonds in a riveting interview downloadable from here
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-595-sibel-edmonds-on-nato-terrorism-911-and-drug-running/
is probably the best place to start for those here who continue determinedly to uphold the mainstream meme about “conspiracy theory”.
A visual “mindmap” of the salient points is here
http://www.ai.rug.nl/~tjeerd/gladio/doc/Sibel_Edmonds_Gladio_Mindmap.pdf
If Craig would be so kind as to dispute any of this – such as that Abdullah Catli was given a British passport – we would soon see which areas he would rather we didn’t look at, and the price he has to pay for his inside information from Foreign Office sources.
After a period of shock, several of the younger brother’s friends have reset their twitter and facebook accounts to public and are tweeting that they still believe in his innocence despite all the apparent evidence to the contrary. Two of them have started a campaign to have him freed.
One is asking for the appointed lawyer to get in touch with him. Both seem to be concerned about their own safety. Elsewhere there are calls for his friends to be arrested as defending him is seen as proof of their own guilt.
The story is now that this was a very simple operation – “they took a very simple recipe…” and did not rely on accomplices.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/simple-boston-bomb-plot-hatched-foreign-authorities/story?id=19019428#.UXaIQMrhdhY
And see mine @ 0914.
@CheebaCow
“It’s still a bit rough, but when I have more time in a few days I can clean it up a bit. In the meantime it should be working now.”
Yes, it is (and I tested both functions this time)! and thanks very much again.
Craig
‘I have a challenge for you. Post something serious and very derogatory about Putin, just here, in this comments thread. Then travel to Russia. You will see how “inefficient” they are.’
Would it be unfair to say that for you to post 9/11 conspiracy comments or to state that you believe, as I do, that the US authorities manufactured this terror attack, would lead to similar ‘inefficiency’ for you on your international travels?
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/eleven-most-mystifying-things-tsarnaev-brothers-did
Wear a backwards hat and no sunglasses. Unlike his older brother, Dzhokhar made little effort to prevent cameras from capturing his face, making him easier to identify when the FBI released security camera photos on Thursday. Indeed, classmates at University of Massachusetts–Dartmouth did see him in the photos, but dismissed the similarity because it seemed so far-fetched.
Not react to the explosions. For three days, investigators pored over all available photos and surveillance videos of the blast area searching for abnormal reactions. The complaint filed in federal court on Monday specifically cites Dzhokhar’s reaction to the first explosion as a giveaway; per the complaint, he glanced in the direction of the first blast only briefly.
Leave the car in the shop. The Wall Street Journal reported that Dzhokhar stopped by an auto-body shop in Watertown on Tuesday to pick up the Mercedes he’d brought in for repairs.
Stay in Boston. The second bomb exploded at 2:49 p.m. last Monday. Dzhokhar and Tamerlan carjacked a Mercedes at 10:39 p.m.* on Thursday. What did they do in the interim three days? Go to the gym, check in on their busted car, and, in Dzhokhar’s case, go to a party on the UMass–Dartmouth campus. During the three-day window in which their involvement was unknown, they made no attempt to flee.
Kill an MIT police officer. Why did the brothers shoot 26-year-old Sean Collier? The murder at 10:30 p.m. on Thursday set in motion the events that would ultimately lead to their capture.
Run out of cash. When Dzhokhar carjacked a Mercedes on Thursday night, he and his brother had one thing in mind: Get cash, and fast. They emptied $800 from an ATM using their victim’s PIN number, before they reached the account limit. Holding up a stranger for money suggests a woeful lack of planning on their part (they hadn’t budgeted) that helped alert them to the authorities.
Not understand how ATMs work. After reaching the daily withdrawal limit at one ATM, the Tsarnaevs, apparently not realizing that the machines are part of an interconnected system, decided to try their luck at two different machines. The quest to find a working ATM was how they ended up, coincidentally, at a 7/11 in Cambridge around the same time it was the scene of an armed robbery, and were spotted on the store security camera.
Confess to the hostage. According to the complaint, when Dzhokhar got into the Mercedes, he immediately told the driver, “Did you hear about the Boston explosion? I did that.” That meant their cover would be immediately blown if the driver escaped. Which brings us to…
Stop for snacks. The Los Angeles Times reported that the hostage escaped after the brothers stopped at a gas station on Memorial Drive to buy snacks.
Keep the hostage’s phone. The Tsarnaevs continued on without their hostage—but they did have his phone, which allowed police to track their location via GPS.
Bring a BB gun. The weapons used by the two suspects, according to police: a pressure-cooker bomb, seven IEDs, an M4 carbine, two handguns, and a BB gun. Why a BB gun?
Alex Thomson
‘The Boston and Canadian plots: the questions that need answering’
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/boston-canadian-plots-questions-answering/4690
(I’m tempted to wonder if Alex reads here …)
More from Sibel Edmonds. In the FBI, there were only four countries that were exempt from monitoring under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Guess which?
Turkey
Azerbaijan
United Kingdom
Belgium
Walid Jumblat, Druze extrordinaire, thinks Syria is behind bombings? Still imbibing. I don’t see that kind of reach.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fanbaaonline.com%2F%3Fp%3D106480
I’d like some opinions on Richard Falk. Anti-Semite?
http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2012/12/17/human-rights-watch-should-remove-antisemitic-u-n-official-richard-falk-from-its-board/
Interesting set of posts and I must agree with Craig about the FSB…they are quite an efficiant lot of sods…I had dealings with them a few years ago when they tried to bug the offices of an organization I was working for…CB..interesting links..tks for posting, but not really convinced..
I have been poking around the net, looking for some reason – any reason – that the FBI would issue photos of the Tsarnaev brothers as prime suspects in the bombing. It seemed like it was only the day before that we were looking at collages of photos from “4Chan think tank” and wondering about the guy in the blue shirt.
This is all I have found so far
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/boston-bombing-victim-in-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html
unwatch.org – Service Unavailable.
Hmmm.
Ben – stop believing Israelis, willya?
Despite efforts to paint itself as an independent watchdog group, UN Watch has repeatedly been accused of having a staunchly “pro-Israel” bias and on outlook on Middle East peace that is closely in line with that of Israel’s right-wing Likud Party. For many years, the group was funded by the American Jewish Committee (AJC)—publisher of the neoconservative flagship journal Commentary, whose editors have included Norman Podhoretz and Irving Kristol—which has made use of its offices in Geneva, as well as those of other affiliated groups, including the Transatlantic Institute in Brussels.[2]
A non-exhaustive Right Web search of Form 990 filings from 2002-2009 uncovered more than $2.3 million in donations to UN Watch—as well as to its U.S. fundraising arm, the American Friends of UN Watch—from Israel-centric and conservative-leaning foundations. The most important funder during this period was the American Jewish Committee, which appears to have given the group some $1.8 million between 2002-2007. Other donors have included the Newton & Rochelle Becker Foundation, which has supported several neoconservative organizations like the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) and Daniel Pipes’ Middle East Forum, and the Shillman Foundation, which has also supported MEMRI. The Becker Foundation has been described by the Center for American Progress as a primary funder of the so-called “Islamophobia network,” an informal grouping of prominent foundations, opinion makers, and media personalities that spread negative impressions about Islam and Muslims in the United States. MEMRI, like UN Watch, is a “nonpartisan” watchdog group with an identifiable right-wing, pro-Israel slant.
Source: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/UN_Watch
Thanks, ‘modo. I had to run an errand and didn’t have time to look, so I thought I’d have you do it for me. 🙂
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130423-911258.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Though I do have some thoughts on this…What would be the point of an American agency..CIA..FBI etc arranging for a couple of dupes to massacre their own citizens ?
No obvious disguise…well probably they did not expect to get caught…No reaction to explosions..well if you expect it, you will not react like everyone else..Pick up your car…need something to drive in case you need to bugger off sharpish…Stay in Boston..probably try to follow a normal routine as possible,wait to find out where the investigation is going…pretty normal criminal behaviour if you ask me…Shoot an MIT cop…bloody stupid but they probably panicked and reacted to a threat..Hijack a car and use an ATM…cash is always welcome in these situations…people carjacking and using a stolen cc is a factor in 60 out of 100 similar cases in the US…Confess to a hostage…keep him quiet through fear..standard tactic…Stop for snacks…well you have to eat sometime…Keep his phone..now that was dumb but understandable if you want to call Mum…The BB gun…now that one I just cannot work out !
“Shoot an MIT cop…bloody stupid but they probably panicked and reacted to a threat.”
No threat. They had one handgun and wanted another. They didn’t even get the gun after killing the cop. It was locked into the holster. These things can and should be explained, and until they are, I remain unpersuaded that all is as it appears.
@Ben..nope..Police Officer’s guns are not ‘locked’ into holsters, they are secured with a flap on the trigger that is secured by a pop tab…I checked with a NYPD friend of mine…
None of the points in the Mother Jones list struck me as extraordinary either, seems as much vague misdirection as anything.
The photos of the Cowboy Veteran hero in different flag displaying postures, and also with the upright un-tourniquetted maimed bomb victim ,i find hard to believe. The presence of ‘dudes in black’ with Seals/Blackwater skull insignias and backpacks, and other observers.. The lack of physical distruption and damage around the bomb outside the cafe. Not that im sure there arent explainations and plausibility, i am just extremely cynical about the messages put out by the various official agencies concerned. If the photos werent odd – by selection or by chance, I wouldnt find them odd. I would still cringe at that typical policy of sending a large assault force to execute the suspects, and double take at the farcical escape and manhunt.
Russia is widely known for its mostly inefficient bureaucracies often at war with one another. The FSB is not the well-oiled machine you and others claim it to be. They can pick on a few bloggers sometimes, but most of the time they don’t.
BTW, you’re suggesting that Islamists helped him move throughout the country. I did not. But it is incorrect to say that the Obshina will have nothing to do with the jihadist movement. I recall a report from a couple of years ago that said that 90% of the illicit funds to Wahhabi charities from Saudi Arabia and Qatar are lost to corruption. Jihad is very profitable.