Teaser 94


Alarm at Russian expansion had at this time caused a flurry of British intelligence activity.  Russia was fighting a tremendous spirit of resistance in its newly conquered territories in the Caucasus, and in a secret service operation Palmerston sent a British ship, the Vixen, into the Black Sea in 1836 to run arms to Chechen resistance fighters there.  It caused a diplomatic incident when the ship was intercepted by Russian forces, but Palmerston sent an assurance to Russian foreign minister Count Nesselrode that the British government had no knowledge of the venture – just as Nesselrode was to assure Palmerston two years later that the Russian government had not authorised Witkiewicz’ mission to Kabul.  Both men were highly accomplished liars.

I am still working very hard indeed on Sikunder Burnes: Master of the Great Game and I thought you might enjoy that paragraph as a little teaser, given its contemporary relevance.  The world hasn’t really changed that much in the intervening 180 years.


94 thoughts on “Teaser

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  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    Jives observes

    “(Life so good-so long as you’re not in a food bank queue rejecting certain foodstuffs because you cant afford to heat them up).”
    _________________

    Well, that’s very much a statement of the obvious, isn’t it? Unfortunately.

  • Macky

    Kempe; “This must be another Putin we’ve not heard about”

    Try this: “Kerry’s calm leadership, the absence of provocative statements and threats, and his insistence on legality and will of the people ”

    Problem is;

    “This is an act of aggression that is completely trumped up in terms of its pretext. It’s really 19th century behaviour in the 21st century.There could be certainly disruption of any of the normal trade routine, there could be business drawback on investment in the country. There could even be ultimately asset freezes, visa bans”

    And just for the LOL;

    “You just don’t invade another country on phony pretexts in order to assert your interests,”

    Guess there must be an alternative reality that perhaps you have only a very filtered acquaintance with.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    Mr Goss

    “I certainly do Courtney and only wish others beyond this blog could see it.”
    ____________________

    I like the note of puzzlement in the second part of the above : why, oh why, don’t the vast majority of the people share my opinions? Perhaps, as Brecht apparently suggested, we need to change the people?

  • Ba'al Zevul (MC Uriah Heep)

    ‘Well, that’s very much a statement of the obvious, isn’t it? Unfortunately.’

    More a statement of opinion, I’d have said. Like your previous three posts.

    ‘why should the very same contributors get so hot under the collar about rasPutin doing the same? Beats me!’

    The opinion-formers on whom you depend for your own opinions seem to be pretty exercised about Putin sending unlabelled assets into Crimea, too. Maybe you should have a go at the Mail/Express/News International/Republicans for Guns and Jesus ? Just a thought.

  • Black Jelly

    The breathtaking impunity of the chosen ! We have a jew oligarch resident in Switzerland, who financed the Maidan mayhem, being given as booty, Governorship of an Eastern Ukrainian Region right next to Russia.

    A Russia with 20,000 nuclear weapons no less, the mf Ihor Kolomoysky is looking for some Polonium up his ass before he even turns up at Dnipropetrovsk.

    BTW-The Swiss have to wake up before they become the “new israel”, a state where all the jew thieves from all over the world run to. And now they are financing coups from there too, whilst Baumgartner is fast asleep !

  • N_

    @Hab – So did you get taught any human values when you were a child, or not? Or was it a case of don’t be a shanda fur die goyim?

    Assuming you’re not a JTRIGger or similar pretending to be a Zionist (which you may be), your mind appears to be consumed with Nazi-style ‘race’ hatred.

    You say “If this bloke you were commenting about were
    Budd[h]ist or a Hindu, I don’t think you’d bother to mention his religion
    .

    Well actually I did mention that Ilyumzhinov was Buddhist. Will you apologise?

    Did you get struck by a momentary blackout when your race hatred kicked in?

    Your racism also appears to have prevented you from conceiving of the possibility that when I wrote

    You just have to put your fists up whenever anyone says anything negative about anyone who’s Jewish and who’s involved in an ethnically based crime ring, don’t you?

    I might be something other than a Nazi type who wants to arrest and jail anyone who’s ever had a grandparent brought up Jewish.

    In actual fact, I’m obviously not anything of the kind, and I’m also obviously correct in what I’m saying about you (assuming you’re not just acting), which is in fact shown in your very response to what I said.

    Talk about being a one-trick pony!

    What you do think is ‘the tribe must be protected above all, above absolutely everything and above the interests of absolutely everybody‘.

    Mashkevitch is an international Jewish businessman with an Israeli passport who is the power behind the throne in Kazakhstan who is not even from Kazakhstan. He is one of the former Soviet-area ‘oligarchs’ (i.e. mafia bosses) who is not only Jewish (as most of them are) but has a record (as many of them do) of involvement in an ethnic-Jewish organisation which is a regional arm of the World Jewish Congress.

    And BTW it’s Jewish billionaires who control the United States (AIPAC the legislature, CPMJO the executive, ADL the culture), not Buddhists, so the ethnic allegiance of international WJC billionaire Mashkevitch carries connections which a Buddhist or Hindu allegiance wouldn’t.

    Also the Jewish religion is intrinsically and essentially racist. You’ve heard of the “chosen people”, right? The Buddhist and Hindu religions for most of their adherents aren’t – even if all religion is shite that ‘justifies’ exploitation and certainly both Buddhism and Hinduism are compatible with racism and indeed with fascism.

    The doctrine of reincarnation is especially disgusting. It can only work against the expression of genuinely human values and the movement towards getting rid of hierarchy and exploitation.

    There’s absolutely zero that’s racist in anything I’ve said. People who come from Jewish backgrounds are free to reject racism, as were people in South Africa from white backgrounds. If Mordechai Zanunu and Gilad Atzmon and Israel Shahak can manage it, anyone can do it.

    It’s not at all surprising that the British National Party rates Melanie Phillips so highly.

  • Kempe

    “Try this: “Kerry’s calm leadership, the absence of provocative statements and threats, and his insistence on legality and will of the people ” etc..”

    So what are you trying to say? That Putin’s OK because Kerry is worse?

  • fred

    “You’re not important enough for that, Fred. Just drop it and stay O/T.”

    Didn’t I tell you to fuck off shit for brains?

    I don’t play games with retard trolls, keep me and my name out of your posts or you get flamed. That’s how it is dickhead, I don’t piss about with shit for brained trolls.

  • N_

    @Resident Dissident:

    “Problems then arise when you get some complete cunt like Berezovsky who played a major role in stoking war in Chechenia so as to line his filthy pockets.”

    While I can agree with this assessment of Berezovsky – perhaps you might wish to apply the same description to Putin who did his own little bit towards stoking up another war in Chechenya?

    I agree. In no way would I defend Putin and the Kremlin’s actions in Chechenia.

    But can we say “similar” rather than “same”? The description should be tweaked a bit for Putin. Berezovsky was involved with the KGB in Moscow, but Putin is a KGB man through and through. He’s rooted to Russia in a way that Berezovsky never was. I mean by the choices he has made in power struggles, not because of ethnicity.

    Politics exists wholly within economics – it can take people a long time to understand that – but there is a difference between an asset such as the Kremlin and an asset such as billions of dollars in a Zurich bank account. Which is not to say Putin doesn’t have the latter as well.

    Berezovsky was less tied to Russia than Putin but much more tied to Russia than say Nevzlin or several other oligarchs who could be mentioned. A little bit less than Abramovich.

    There’s a spectrum:

    …Putin…Abramovich…Berezovsky…Nevzlin…

    Quite a lot of these charming ‘Ollie Gark’ chaps have MI6 connections too, including through Gibraltar and the Channel Islands as well as London.

    In short: Britain’s as dirty as Russia, any day of the week.

    Berezovsky’s connections with the royal family even got mentioned in the Torygraph once. Just once, that is. Not twice.

    Putin’s role makes me think of how under Stalin it was the KGB (under previous names) that controlled the arms dumps in most of the country but it was the army that controlled them in Moscow. Everyone who has studied the history of the USSR knows that extreme importance was given to ‘security’.

    It still is.

    Are there people in SIS who think they can help do a Kiev in Moscow? They can’t. Tell the loonies that you heard it from me.

    What they could probably do is line their pockets at the expense of fuck knows what level of carnage in Russia.

    I’d rather see them expelled before they do.

    Which isn’t to say they aren’t in some of what they do in Moscow working with the KGB.

    Funny old game.

    One final thing on Chechenia: after the butchery of Beslan, there will be no lasting peace.

    Beslan was like Bloody Sunday in Derry/Londonderry times 25 in terms of the number of casualties, but times up to 250 or more in effect. Because taking over 1000 innocent children hostage in a military operation in a school in which hundreds then get killed is a scale up from shooting dead a dozen unarmed civilians half of whom were teenagers and some of whom may have been throwing stones. I think almost everybody would agree with that.

    There may be stretches of peace, but influencing the mood towards peace will be much more of a sticky job, liable to hit resistance and reversal, than letting it go in the other direction, sadly. Of course those who have any great influence whether from the KGB nightclubs in Moscow or the panelled clubrooms in London will be most concerned in…lining…their…you-know-whats…

  • craig Post author

    Black Jelly

    That is the third time this week you have referred to “yids”. You really are not welcome on this site any more, under any of your identities. At times you have been showing the same IP address as Guano, so unless Guano you can convince me you are not the same person, you are both banned.

    Mods please delete anything from Black Jelly or Guano on sight and from anyone you even suspect to be the same person. I am afraid radical surgery is required. If Black Jelly persists, we shall have to consider whether he is committing a criminal offence by persistent hate speech.

    [Noted, with thanks, investigation begun, results will be edited in here.]

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    Ba’ar Zevul

    “The opinion-formers on whom you depend for your own opinions”
    ______________________

    Ah, there’s the difference between me and you and the other Eminences, you see.

    I don’t rely on opinion formers – whether on dubious websites or not – to make up my mind for me 🙂

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    Fred

    You overlook something – as so often : I don’t CARE if you flame me.

    So calm down, dear!

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    N_ (10h13)

    I think you protest just a little too much (“I’m NOT a rascist” etc). Your posts reveal otherwise as far as Jews are concerned.

  • Abe Rene

    If no-one ever learns from History, why write it? Because *some* might learn. For example the French refused to get involved in Iraq. 🙂

  • Herbie

    Craig

    “Yes, I think you may be making the grave mistake of imagining judges in the former soviet union countries to be in any way independent, creditable or distinguished”

    Is that you saying the above, Craig, or is it our new moderator, Clark?

    I’d have expected Craig to understand where such reasoning leads, especially since he has based his own argument in this area upon the rule of law.

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    Habby

    “Those two points of Resident Dissident’s seem perfectly consistent to me. In both quotes, rasPutin is claiming that there are no Russian soldiers in Crimea (other than those allowed there by treaty to support the Black Sea fleet of course). But please do point to any inconsistency if you wish.”

    The two statements are so consistent that even you yourself feel the need to qualify them, and in brackets, no less.

    So that’d be another fail, I’m afraid.

    But please, don’t give up.

  • fred

    “You overlook something – as so often : I don’t CARE if you flame me.”

    Fuck off retard.

  • Ba'al Zevul (Stereotypes 'R' Us)

    Ah, there’s the difference between me and you and the other Eminences, you see.

    Eats shoots and leaves. Kindly be less ambiguous. And cite your sources, if the comma goes where I think it does. I cite mine, and they are (a) various and (b) avoid conspiracy theories. They have even included the Daily Mail (subject to (b), above). As you never provide any kind of backup for your often astonishing assertions and innuendoes, I will continue to ascribe their sources for you. And their intention.

    I see Craig has cottoned onto the probable stitching-up of Megrahi. Your opinion on that, rather than on other posters, would be welcome, I am sure..

  • N_

    @Hab – Don’t be so fucking insulting. You are a racist. I’m not. You will not find one single thing I’ve posted here that any reasonable person would call racist. (And I’m not going to get into any further discussion with you, so don’t waste your time.)

    To say I ‘protest too much’ is just throwing mud. You are here for dishonest reasons. I and most of your other opponents aren’t.

    If it was my blog, I’d ban you. I’d also force Zionist organisations whether formal or informal to register as agents of a foreign power.

    I shouldn’t bother answering you, and I will now stop doing so. DON’T FEED THE TROLLS is always good advice; sometimes it’s hard to follow. Goodbye.

  • Clark

    Herbie, 2:07 pm, the comment at 11 Mar, 12:05 am is not by me. It could not be by me because, so far as I know, only Craig’s comments can have a blue background, and I do not know Craig’s username or password.

    As for your assertion that I’m the new moderator, please desist. I suffered severe mental problems when I previously moderated at this site, so I quit. If you won’t permit me to quit, I really don’t know how I’ll cope.

    If you have complaints about moderation, use the contact form.

  • Herbie

    Clark

    You’re making far far too many assumptions there.

    I asked a simple question.

    I do need to know to whom I’m speaking, so thanks for the clarification that it was Craig.

    It’s still quite a bizarre thing for him to have said, but there ya go.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    N-

    Feel free to “do a Goss”, as I believe it’s known.

    For the record: I don’t recall calling you a racist (it’s you who has made free with the word, I think) but I’m convinced you’re a Jew hater. From just one of your posts on this page : “And BTW it’s Jewish billionaires who control the United States” and “Also the Jewish religion is intrinsically and essentially racist.” And there’s plenty more from where those came. You must feel quite at home here.

    And now, p*ss off!

  • Ben

    Allow me N_:

    Feed the trolls at your own peril. Remember the allegory of the scorpion and the tortoise.

    You know what they are……

  • Ben

    THE STORY

    A turtle was happily swimming along a river when a scorpion hailed it from the shore.

    A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on his back across a river. “Are you mad?” exclaimed the turtle. “You’ll sting me while I’m swimming and I’ll drown.”

    “My dear turtle,” laughed the scorpion, “if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you, and drown as well. Now where is the logic in that?”

    The turtle thought this over, and saw the logic of the scorpion’s statement. “You’re right!” cried the turtle. “Hop on!” The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river the scorpion gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly said:

    “Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there’d be no logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?”

    “It has nothing to do with logic,” the drowning scorpion sadly replied. “It’s just my character.”

  • N_

    @Old Mark

    (There’s a good story about Berezovsky in Ilyumzhinov’s autobiography.)

    N- to what extent does the story there correspond to John Dunlop’s considered opinions on the Moscow apartment bombings, which also implicted Berezovsky?

    I think those bombings were done in order to scale up a war in Chechenia and help propel Putin towards the presidential office. Almost certainly by the KGB working together with Berezovsky.

    My ears pricked right up when Tony Blair told Putin that he was sure Putin sympathised with the US after 911 in 2001 because Russia too had been under a similar sort of attack by terrorists when the apartment blocks were bombed in 1999.

    “Hello”, I thought. Bit of a giveaway. I’m sure Putin got the message.

    Ilyumzhinov’s story isn’t about the Moscow bombings. It’s about when he was bidding to become the President of Kalmykia. It’s from a time when Berezovsky was best-known in the Soviet media as a mathematician who was also an MP. Ilyumzhinov describes a ‘famous MP’ who warned him not to take part in the contest in Chechenia. Ilyumzhinov was himself an MP at that time. The MP who was threatening him told him, “If you continue, I’ll have 15000 of my armed men on the streets tomorrow morning”. The way Ilyumzhinov tells it is that “At that moment, I knew I’d won”.

    …and the testosterone had to be scraped off the walls!

    Ilyumzhinov BTW says he believes he was contacted by aliens.

  • N_

    @Hab – Quit with the dishonest personal abuse. Saying I protest too much when I say I’m not a racist is calling me a racist.

    As for the two things you adduce from what I said to show that I’m a “Jew hater”, er, no, they don’t show anything of the kind. So saying that Chinese interests control Indonesia would make someone a Chinese-hater, would it? Meanwhile, if a religion is essentially racist, there’s something wrong about someone who mentions that fact, is there? Assuming you’re not just pretending to be a Zionazi arsehole, you appear to have no ground to stand on other than thuggish tribal hatred. And with that, I really am going to stop feeding the trolls.

  • Macky

    Kempe: “So what are you trying to say? That Putin’s OK because Kerry is worse?”

    Is it so difficult to even follow your own train of thoughts ? You stated that you couldn’t recognise Putin measured de-escalating Ukraine response from Blum’s desription, so I gave you the comparison of Kerry’s escalating response, being the complete opposition of Putin’s, in the hope that this would aid you in understanding what Blum was reffering to; obviously not !

  • doug scorgie

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!
    10 Mar, 2014 – 10:35 pm

    “If this bloke you were commenting about were Buddist or aHindu, I don’t think you’d bother to mention his religion.”

    How many times need you be reminded Habbabkuk, Jewish is not a religion.

  • John Goss

    The Crimean parliament has adopted a resolution of independence from the Ukraine pending the 16th March referendum. It was agreed today with 78% voting for it. Perhaps MSM will report this, perhaps not. Apparently the precedent cited for it was Kosovo.

    http://nsnbc.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Declaration_Independence_Crimea_parliament.jpg

    This is the article. Well, it looks like the coup might turn out to have been in vain and instead of moving nearer to Europe the Ukraine may eventually move further away, and will certainly cede land to the Russians. I will sleep a little sounder in my bed tonight.

    Here is the full article.

    http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/11/crimean-parliament-adopts-declaration-of-independence-in-preparation-of-referendum/

  • Richard

    No, the world hasn’t changed much at all – or even since Roman times or earlier, for that matter.

    The birds still nest in the trees, the fish still swim, the sun still rises and sets and nutters, liars and homicidal kleptocrats still rise to positions of power and influence.

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