A particularly mendacious lie by Danny Alexander puts the institutional start-up costs of Scottish Independence at £1.5 billion. That is a cool half billion pounds cheaper than Scotland’s share of the costs of the Iraq and Afghan wars, even on the Westminster government’s blatant under-estimate of the war costs.
So Scotland can afford criminal invasions killing hundreds of thousands to ‘bring freedom’, but cannot afford the smaller cost of its own freedom!!!
The £1.5 billion estimate is mendacious in two ways. Firstly, it is a simple recycling of a Canadian lie at the time of the Quebec independence referendum, apportioning with no argument 1% of GDP to startup costs.
Secondly, as nearly all the money will be spent in Scotland it is not a loss at all, but actually an increase to GDP, as any but the most nutty neo-con would be forced to acknowledge. And it would be the precursor of government money spent annually in Scotland rather than England for ever thereafter.
Thankfully Alexander won’t have a job much longer – and if he thinks a penny of Scottish public spending is going in future to support his huge arse and deceitful mouth, he is very wrong.
Disobedient children must be executed.
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. — Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. — Exodus 21:17
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. — Leviticus 20:9
God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. — Matthew 15:4
Plenty more here –
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/parenting.html
Hallelujah! Praise!
” Wasn’t an exclusively Jewish or Muslim thing at all.”
No. Most were mere surgical-Semites chortling at the few wearing helmets in the shower.
Mr Scorgie
““…you use the topic to deliver what you believe to be a swift kick against the Jews.”
Misquoting is your speciality Habbabkuk.
I wrote:
“Let’s protect all children from adult abuse including the male genital mutilation conventional within the MUSLIM AND Jewish religions.””
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You are a master of disinformation, Doug (if of little else).
You are so keen to get in a swift kick against Jews that you’re willing to make a big issue out of male circumcision DESPITE the fact that your Muslim mates ALSO practise male circumcision.
D’you get it now?
Ba’al Zevul
Do you have a particular problem with the concept of loving and honoring your parents?
Ba’al Zevul
I dispense you from answering the above question if you only have an Oxford second (whether converted into an MA or not).
Notice how swiftly Mother Mary goes to ground when it’s her favorites who are busily commenting on cocks and matters connected. 🙂
Got hand it to the old dear, no one could accuse her of not having balls!
You must be good at badminton, Hab. Chasin’ down those Israeli birdies and whackin’ em back. What team do you play for?
Cutting bits off is empowering; that sign of my parental authority will be imposible to forget even after I’m dead.
Then there are pedigree animals, which just don’t look right unil you cut some bits off.
I’m all for cuts, like all the best politicians.
Is abortion the worst thing that could happen to unwanted children?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/03/bodies-of-800-babies-long-dead-found-in-septic-tank-at-former-irish-home-for-unwed-mothers/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3
Clark
I gather that interviews with and studies of Muslim women who have undergone female genital mutilation reveal that the women are mostly rather unhappy about it.
Are you aware of studies or similar which reveal any great level of dissatisfaction among males who were circumcised as children?
California Ben
Have you by any chance been banned from all relevant US – based blogs?
Or are you just an ageing, whiskery 1960s Brit expat? 🙂
Just raked up more Blair. Globalisation, globalisation, globalisation….at the ICI General Membership Meeting, 21st May, Washington DC.
http://www.ici.org/viewpoints/view_14_gmm_blair
So that’s 21st May: Washington DC, take your pick of 22-23rd May, Shanghai, three days later, Stockholm/Malmo and back in time to pontificate on all UK outlets from the 27th…..
JUST a minute. Just a cotton picking sixty seconds. At some time during the 21st-23rd May Blair was also recorded at the Astana Economic Forum, in his favourite repressive dictatorship, Kazakhstan. So what’s going on? Is he being paid hyperbucks for videoconferencing? Or has he now got a body double?
Still it’s good to see the stress and jetlag showing up on his tired and generally joyless features.
“mostly rather unhappy about it…”
Any interviews with the happy recipients?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-030614.html
“Kagan has been devastatingly misguided on everything, as in his 2003 best-seller Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order, an eulogy of “benign” Americans standing guard against the “threats” (as in Muslim fundamentalism) emanating from a Hobbesian world way beyond the cozy Kantian precinct inhabited by Europe.
Then, in The Return of History and the End of Dreams (2008), the “evil” was not Muslim fundamentalism anymore (too shabby), but the emerging of those vast autocracies, Russia and China, antithetical to Western democracies. But with The World America Made (2012), the paradisiacal shining city on the hill would once again triumph, more than capable to see those autocracies off; after all, the only reliable guarantee of global peace is American exceptionalism.
Kagan still commands the attention even of the otherwise aloof Commander-in-Chief, who avidly consumed The World America Made before his 2012 State of the Union Address, in which he proclaimed “America is back”. ”
Shorter Obama; “we don’ get no respect”
““mostly rather unhappy about it…”
Any interviews with the happy recipients?”
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Nah, Ben, I’ll leave it to you to find interviews with women happy that they’ve been genitally mutilated!
What a chump you are 🙂
Well, at least he’s holding firm on abortion.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675
“What the Western media fail to mention is that Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Pope Francis I) was one of the main supporters –within the Catholic hierarchy– of Argentina’s military dictatorship which came to power in a CIA supported coup in 1976.
Jorge Mario Bergoglio not only supported the dictatorship, he also played a direct and complicit role in the “Dirty War” (la guerra sucia”) in liaison with the military Junta headed by General Jorge Videla, leading to the arrest, imprisonment, torture and disappearance of progressive Catholic priests and laymen who were opposed to Argentina’s military rule. “While the two priests Francisco Jalics y Orlando Yorio, kidnapped by the death squads in May 1976 were released five months later. after having been tortured, six other people associated with their parish kidnapped as part of the same operation were “disappeared” (desaparecidos).”
Liberation Theology has become a convenient tool of media propaganda: the protagonists of oppression are portrayed as liberators. Pope Francis I, heralded as the champion of Liberation in Latin America is now bringing his message to Palestine: According to Naim Ateek, the founder of Liberation Theology in Palestine, quoted in TIME, “We feel he has been able to speak about the poor in Latin America,… Now we would like to see him speak about the oppressed in Palestine.”
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
2 Jun, 2014 – 8:49 pm
“…male cirumcision which does have backing in scripture and which, if what one hears is to be believed, makes the circumcised man a better cocksman?”
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
3 Jun, 2014 – 2:43 pm
“John Goss has kindly provided us with scriptural authority for male circumcision…”
“Could anyone – perhaps you, Mr Scorgie? – point us in the direction of the text or texts that prescribe/authorize/encourage/justify female genital mutilation as practised by sundry Muslims (but not Jews)?”
Well if it’s in the scriptures Habbabkuk it must be right then.
There is no justification for FGM Habbabkuk. FGM is worse than male circumcision due to its more radical cutting.
However I do believe that ritual male circumcision is wrong even if it’s mandated in the scriptures.
Don’t forget Habbabkuk, many Jews are atheists.
Adult male Jews and Muslims should decide for themselves whether to have the procedure.
Circumcising children should, in my view, be outlawed.
Greenwald has another tepid re-hash of old news. Is your founder (Ebay) upset at the notion Google is complicit? Is that why you STILL haven’t released the name of the country in question?
http://rt.com/usa/162036-wikileaks-google-nsa-afghanistan/
Habbabkuk I agree, Jews are much better than Muslims. Stands to reason, dunnit? Jews are on our side and we’re the Good Guys. Bleedin’ obvious.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/05/freedom-cheaper-than-iraq-war/comment-page-3/#comment-459812
Another abusive ad hominem comment and incorrect assumption from the troll.
I have just got back from attending a talk by Dr Colin Summerhayes from the Scott Polar Antarctic Survey on global warming, loss of sea ice, etc etc. Would do the troll good to get out more.
PS Have you noticed his fondness for typing out ‘naughty’ words beginning with the latter ‘c’?
“PS Have you noticed his fondness for typing out ‘naughty’ words beginning with the latter ‘c’?”
I’m waiting for the compulsory adolescent fart jokes since that’s all he’s got left.
A CV and a half! Shame about the Exxon and BP parts.
http://www.spri.cam.ac.uk/people/summerhayes/
Ba’al Zevul (You Have Entered An Incorrect Password)
3 Jun, 2014 – 2:50 pm
“Also it used to be fairly standard for the Church of England at least.”
Yes that’s true Ba’al:
“Edward VII, the Duke of Windsor and Prince Charles all had their foreskins removed, the latter by Jacob Snowman GP, at Buckingham Palace in 1948.
Charles’ brothers Andrew and Edward were also snipped.”
“According to Anthony Holden’s biography of Prince Charles, cited by the Evening Standard, Jacob Snowman was summoned to the palace five days after Charles’s christening.
Snowman was a mohel, a religious circumcision specialist, from London’s Jewish community, and he was chosen over the royal physician to perform the ritual.”
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/24/britain-wonders-if-baby-prince-will-be-circumcised-prince-charles-snipped-by-royal-mohel/
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
3 Jun, 2014 – 3:28 pm
“Are you aware of studies or similar which reveal any great level of dissatisfaction among males who were circumcised as children?”
Try this Habbabkuk:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jews-Against-Circumcision/165424110207450
Mr Scorgie
“There is no justification for FGM Habbabkuk. FGM is worse than male circumcision due to its more radical cutting.”
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I’m gratified that you take that view, Doug. Thank you.
Mr Scorgie
“Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
3 Jun, 2014 – 3:28 pm
“Are you aware of studies or similar which reveal any great level of dissatisfaction among males who were circumcised as children?”
Try this Habbabkuk:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jews-Against-Circumcision/165424110207450”
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You should be careful not to assume automatically, Doug, that this Facebook group is representative of circumcised Jews as a whole.
I would submit that it isn’t and, furthermore, that the vast majority of adult male Jews have no hangups or gripes at all about having been circumcised.
I suspect you have a greater hangup about male circumcision than do those whi have been circumcised. Why so, Doug?
Getting holes made through children is fun, too. You can hang jewellery on them that matches your own; people can see you’re a family.
Mr Scorgie
Yes that’s true Ba’al:
““Edward VII, the Duke of Windsor and Prince Charles all had their foreskins removed, the latter by Jacob Snowman GP, at Buckingham Palace in 1948.
Charles’ brothers Andrew and Edward were also snipped.”
“According to Anthony Holden’s biography of Prince Charles, cited by the Evening Standard, Jacob Snowman was summoned to the palace five days after Charles’s christening.
Snowman was a mohel, a religious circumcision specialist, from London’s Jewish community, and he was chosen over the royal physician to perform the ritual.””
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You have obviously studied this matter in very great detail. Have you done similar research on other groups of particular interest to you, such as MPs, potential No voters in the independence referendum, etc? Have you identified any interesting correlations?
This seems to have gone unnoticed today. Far more important I would have thought than the ceaseless discussion on genital mutilation. Obomber continues in his plan to encircle Russia.
US unveils $1bn Europe security plan
President Barack Obama announces plans for a $1bn fund to increase US military deployments to Europe, during a visit to Poland.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/europe/
The hypocritical war monger moves on to France on Friday to remember the slaughter of D Day which happened 70 years ago. He will stand with the other war mongers like Hollande and Cameron.
“http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/05/freedom-cheaper-than-iraq-war/comment-page-3/#comment-459812
Another abusive ad hominem comment and incorrect assumption from the troll.”
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Not at all, just a statement of fact about how the bitch reacts when her favorites say something untoward.
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La vita è bella, life is good!