I am an anti-militarist. But I believe violence in defence can be justified. The Israeli mass killings by bombing in Gaza are absolutely unjustified. I also oppose the random and ineffective rockets being fired from Gaza into Israel. But when Israeli ground troops actually move into Gaza, it is my sincere hope that the Palestinians kill as many as are necessary to stop them. That is justified, legal and necessary.
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Neil Thanks for that. Although Operation Protective Edge is ongoing place at this very moment, I see that there is a suggestion that the page should be deleted. WTF?
Nishidani contributor has been accused of being a Jew baiting Anti Semite! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nishidani and Fitzcarmalan contributor prefers to keep a low profile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fitzcarmalan/About
Mary @ 7:50pm
I see that there is a suggestion that the page should be deleted. WTF?
Click on the link “this article’s entry” on the deletion notice for the AFD (Articles for Deletion) page. As I said, also quite illuminating (BTW, there is no chance that it will be deleted).
You see, or not as the case maybe. Sure I am not really interested in Football…The Band were Brilliant…There was No TV on..and my wife went to Th Cider and Garden Festival Before Me…
So I had Two Pints of Tap Water..she had another half…I walked home alone///I asked at The Porteguese Restraunt…and well I do understand…Normally they would have invited me in…
We do have some Argentinian Friends…
Did it start at 7pm?
Is it now Half Time???
I have no idea what the score is…if it has even started yet…
But I want The Argentinians To Win…
Now How do I switch My Telly On???
Not Finished Yet.
Tony
“We’re part of a club, and we paid a very expensive membership fee to get in,” said Rami Elhanan, an activist with the Parents Circle, which includes both Israeli and Palestinian families who have lost loved ones to the conflict. His daughter Smadar was killed in a suicide bombing in 1997.
“We are not going to let them use our pain to enlarge this club,” he said.
Elhanan pointed out the other dozen activists — this one lost a mother, this one a brother, this one a son.
“Every one of the people here has on their back a very heavy weight,” he said. “We paid that price and we know how important it is not to have other people join.”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-protest-wave-of-hate-in-tel-aviv/
….on going/taking place….
“Illegal? Who the fuck cares about the law?”
Oh, they’ll bluster in public, but in private, safe behind Nanny America’s skirts, they beg for protection from the “most dangerous issue”: http://wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10TELAVIV417.html
http://respect-discussion.blogspot.ro/2014/07/gaza-genocide-and-criminal-rogue-israel.html
Because times change.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/04/201341561759725150.html
“the ball is now in the court of Palestine”
“we are waiting for them”
Looks like there has been one Israeli death.
“An Israeli soldier was killed and three others were injured after their vehicle was targeted north of Gaza.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/12/371045/israel-continues-strikes-gaza-responds/
Chos; You should stick with one identity. I think it was you who counseled patience, yet your link indicates a very long wait indeed.
“Indeed, after Operation Cast Lead, I recommended to President Abbas that Palestine accept the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, which President Abbas did do. And what happened? Mr. Moreno-Ocampo, the ICC prosecutor threw it out and said, “Well, it’s not for me to determine whether Palestine is a state,” despite the fact that Palestine had de jure diplomatic relations with 133 states and also state membership in UNESCO, a U.N. specialized agency. Still Mr. Moreno-Ocampo this coward and this hypocrite had the gall to just throw aside Palestine’s acceptance of jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court and to investigate Israel for war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide.’
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
13 Jul, 2014 – 7:23 pm
Craig can write what he likes, say what he likes and do as he likes, unlike you on his blog.
PS La vita non è bella per i Palestinesi.
Not a Pacifist?
Oh come on Craig..I can’t imagine you with a gun unless you threatened to take his gun off him and stick it up his arse.
Great Match
My Wife is home now…
She is asking me if I can do The Gravy…
We have Roast Chicken on a Sunday.
Tony
Mary
“Craig can write what he likes, say what he likes and do as he likes, unlike you on his blog.”
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I quite agree, dear girl! Good to see you recognising it’s Craig’s blog, because some of your previous utterances gave me the impression you sometimes think it’s yours.
Mads Gilbert is back in Gaza. Déjà vu. Cast Lead revisited.
Israel hits Gaza with banned weapons: Norwegian doctor
13 July 2014 06:54 (Last updated 13 July 2014 19:20)
At least 166 Palestinians, mostly civilians, have been killed in Israeli airstrikes since late Monday
GAZA CITY
Renounced Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert on Sunday accused the Israeli army of using internationally banned weapons in its ongoing offensive against the Gaza Strip.
Gilbert told a press conference in Shifa Hospital in Gaza City that examinations of the bodies of the Palestinian victims showed that they had been subjected to internationally banned weapons.
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http://www.aa.com.tr/en/u/357944–israel-uses-banned-weapons
Reference http://guevents.georgetown.edu/event/mads_gilbert_eyes_in_gaza_what_did_i_see_what_can_you_do#.U8Lm73JwbSd
Apparently this is what they are using:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_Inert_Metal_Explosive
Does anyone else agree with George Galloway’s plea to stop paying your BBc license fee??
Mary
La vita sarebbe ancora più bella pei Palestinesi se cessassero di sparare razzi contro Israël.
I think they meant ‘renowned’. Some years ago, I heard Mads Gilbert speak at UCL about his experiences in Gaza during Cast Lead. He has a terrific personality and spoke very movingly of what he and his Palestinian doctor colleagues dealt with over that dreadful time which lasted for 23 days. Some of his photos have stayed in my memory.
At least in USSR the population were not forced to pay for their propaganda. On the other hand in the capitalist UK the population are forced to pay for the propaganda that they are subjected to, in the format of the bbc license, that is so rigorously enforced and any one transgressing through none payment are fined and jailed to boot. We the people need to start thinking about license strikes.
DIME weapons are filthy nasty weapons that dismember anything at the height of 30cm to 75cm (one foot to two and one half of a foot) ie any children in its path are decapitated their heads cut off clean a well as lots of limb amputations leaving the wounds highly impregnated with the super heated cloud of the vaporised heavy metal that in turn creates weird infections and an agonising death. The remains are often discoloured and have a distinct odour. I am sure you are aware of that.
The crimes against humanity and peace committed by the mad rabid zinoists and explained way by the coterie of the zionist apologist scum somehow never entertain the horrid realities of the war crimes of the zionist mercenaries.
Although fact that Palestinians are still preserving their identity after seventy year of sustained war on them and fighting the occupation is a testament to the Palestinians tenacity and bravery, and clear indication of the failure of the mad rabid zionists in subjugating the Palestinian nation, despite the applications of enormous amounts of force and explosives.
One has to admit that Gaza Muslims are more humane than Israeli Jews.
Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish 54, a Hebrew-speaking Gaza-born Israeli doctor at Chaim Sheba Medical Center, Tel Aviv and peace activist, was getting ready to join his new posting at the University of Toronto – but his dream of living a safe place with his eight children was smashed by the Israel Occupation Force (IOF) shelling of his house in Jabaliya during the final days of Israel’s 23-day attack on Gazzah, world’s most crowded place with 1.5 million Muslim and Christian Palestinian natives living on a small piece of land surrounded by Israel and its Arab collaborators. As result of Israeli shelling, Dr. Abuelaish’s three daughters, Bisan 20, Mayar 15, and Aya 13 along with their cousin, Nour 14, were martyred while seriously injured one sister Shatha 16. Dr. Abuelaish’s wife, Nadia, had died of leukemia before the Israeli attack.
http://rehmat1.com/2009/11/17/in-memory-of-my-three-daughters/
John curry-comb. Horse face and a horse’s ass.
Messy? I blame my Dad..He went to Ushaw College..They were Trying To Make Roman Catholic Priest Out Of Him…
They sent me to Upholland Priests Training College when I was 10///
I Looked Around and Immediately Realised There Were No Girls Here…and Demanded To Be Taken Home
So as Catholics…my Dad didn’t say ..how could he tell me…
It is much Better Without a Condom…
It Just Doesn’t Feel the Same…
Has anyone Scored Yet?
I am rooting For Argentina.
Tony
California Ben
“John curry-comb. Horse face and a horse’s ass.”
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Gosh, that was witty, Ben. And very subtle with it.
Now you can have a final smoke before going to bed (dried horse dropppings, perhaps?), happy in the knowledge of having done another day’s useful and productive work. 🙂
Je
South African Blacks did use armed resistance.
And Israel would love it if Palestinians just sat back and got killed without lifting a finger to defend themselves. They would expel, kill, take houses and towns and demolish them to build what they want to on top of them. Just as they do now, except they would use the fact that the Palestinians don’t resist to say, they don’t mind.
Sort of like what they say about all the discrimination Palestinian citizens of Israel face.
I think it is wrong to compare South African apartheid with Zionism. South African Aparthied wanted to seperate whites from Blacks.
It had no desire to expel all blacks out of South Africa and imports whites in their place.
Zionism attempts Genocide and expulsion of the native population to be replaced by imported Jews.
The closest comparison to Zionism is Nazi Germany. But even then, Zionism compares badly with Nazi Germany because Hitler had abolished the reichstag while Israel is a democracy. So Germans shared none of the blame for what Hitler did, while the people who voted for every Israel Government since the establishment of Zionism share the blame for all the actions of those governments.
To tell Palestinians to stick to none Violent resistance while they are cramed and starved in concentration camps like Gaza would be no differnt to telling a Holocoast surviver that he should have limited himself to non-violent resistance while he was in auswitch.
Arsalan
Just a couple of points, the first one historical:
1/. “South African Blacks did use armed resistance.”
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And they got hammered.
2/. “They {the Israelis}would expel, kill, take houses and towns and demolish them to build what they want to on top of them.”
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They wouldn’t – we are talking about Gaza here.
“In the Arab world, does World Cup soccer trump the Gaza war?” asks that vile racist rag, the Jerusalem Post.
Can we guess what the Zionists would say if say an Iranian or Egyptian newspaper asked, in connection with a hypothetical slaughter of hundreds of Israeli Jewish civilians in Tel Aviv, in the latest massacre in a conflict which killed one Jewish child every 3 days for more than a decade, “In the Jewish world, does reading the business pages trump the Tel Aviv massacre?”
Use the word ‘Zionazi’, people! It’s accurate.
If anyone reading this is still buying their underwear at Marks and Spencer’s, shame on you!
I never betrayed her and she never betrayed me. I never betrayed my wife, and she has never betrayed me. She is not interested in football…and whilst I am watching Extra Time in The World Cup Final…She Asks Me if I can make her phone work…Its Been (I suspect hacked to fuck…or maybe its a hardware fault..So I did..whilst eating my TeA. hAS ANYONE SCored YET? I don’t Do Penalties
Tony
https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/488399931062095874
Oh Come on..Even David Beckham can do Better Than That…Good Match Though…They Didn’t Fake It.
Thank God , we are not going to a German Beach Next Week in The Greek Islands…
They will be even Nicer than normal.
My Audi is now in Lithuania.
Tony
The uncle of a slain Israeli teenager consoles the father of a murdered Palestinian teenager. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.
The words on dreoilin’s twitter picture, above link,
How many people is it ‘necessary to kill’? How many armchair warriors are cheering on this violence? How many deaths are too many? How hard is it to just say stop?
More Israelis opposing the Israeli state.
http://21centurymanifesto.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/israeli-communists-condemns-attack-on-gaza/
via media lens forum
Phil
Marginalised non-entities. It means nothing.