Trophy Pictures

by craig on July 29, 2014 1:27 pm in Uncategorized

I just saw the British Prime Minister do something, so appallingly tasteless I could not believe it was happening. BBC News just showed a dawn raid by immigration officers on a well-kept home. So far, so tasteless.

Astonishingly, once the evil foreigners had been herded up and taken off to detention camps, where they risk being beaten up or raped, Teresa May and David Cameron arrived, and posed in the victims’ kitchen for trophy pictures.

I thought that what Blair has done since leaving Downing Street had debased the office of Prime Minister to an astonishing degree. But, posing for a stunt in the neat and clean kitchen of some poor immigrant, David Cameron had plumbed levels of tastelessness that again make me realise that the UK has become a country whose values I no longer recognise. The disgusting complicity of the BBC in filming this stunt is equally astonishing.

Are there really so few people left who have the slightest idea of what constitutes decent human behaviour?

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  1. I agree, on the whole, but I am also glad to see Cameron put his face in front of the actions he enables, endorses and encourages. It makes it much harder for him to claim he is being misinterpreted, over-reached, and so on.

    And I would take issue with the idea that this behaviour is “tasteless”. Taste is personal, variable and legitimately transgressed in the interest of some greater goal. What we are seeing here is not “tasteless”. It is the thuggish bullying of scapegoats by the powerful, the endorsement of intimidation and physical attacks on the vulnerable and the reduction of political “debate” to braying soundbite-war.

    But apart from that, I agree with you, and sign me up as a fellow objector.

  2. It seems that a downward spiral is easy to lock into, Craig, and the longer it continues the more difficult it is to reverse. I suspect that if you do the appropriate reading you’ll find this is the typical behaviour of a country that is beginning to descend into fascism, especially with all that warlike rhetoric. Couldn’t happen here? I’m sure they thought it couldn’t happen in a country like Germany… or Italy.

    Democracy is precious, dependent on public engagement, and constantly under threat. It’s all we’ve got though. The next election is less than a year away…

  3. David Cameron had plumbed levels of tastelessness that again make me realise that the UK has become a country whose values I no longer recognise. The disgusting complicity of the BBC in filming this stunt is equally astonishing.

    That is appalling, disgusting, and above all projections of the fantasy.

    The news of the people trafficking gangs getting busted time and again whose speciality is to smuggle people out of UK, and this news is going suppressed.

    although now and again there are glimpses of reality in the provincial rags, this being an exception;

    Maciej Maciejewski, 34 was so fed up of being jobless and penniless in the Britain, he travelled 250 miles from home in London and hurled a lit Molotov cocktail through the doors of Manchester town hall.

  4. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Jul, 2014 - 1:52 pm

    Just to be clear:

    What you object to is the PM and the Home Secretary getting some (cheap) publicity from the raid, and the BBC giving them airtime, and not the fact of the raid itself (which was presumably entirely legal and within the powers of the relevant authorities in furtherance of UK legislation on immigration)?

    The fact that the home which was raided was well-kept, neat and clean, although welcome, is entirely irrelevant – but of course I understand why you mention it.

  5. The election’s gonna be in November and, like Tesco, every vote counts. I’m not condoning it and agree that it’s vulgar, base, tasteless – whatever, but the currency of modern politics is to appeal to those tabloid characteristics and assuming that Crosby signed this off then fair play. Even Labour are now saying a vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour. Politics is a dirty game and election’s are even dirtier – if it gets one vote, it’s worked and, to be fair, those who are upset by it were probably never gonna vote Tory anyway. Anyone hear a dog whistle?

  6. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Jul, 2014 - 1:58 pm

    Craig

    Having just seen Peacewisher’s commenbt:

    “..you’ll find this is the typical behaviour of a country that is beginning to descend into fascism”,

    I’d again like to ask you whether you agree with the several commenters on here that the UK is either already a “fascist state” or rapidly becoming one.

    It is obviously my hope that you will give those commenters a swift kick up the arse or at least substantially nuance what they write…..in the same way as you have when you write about Putin’s Russia.

  7. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    29 Jul, 2014 - 1:59 pm

    Eton used to teach the young gentlemen how to comport themselves, I am told. Cameron’s behaviour is a mark of declining educational standards, the parvenu he is, and the terror that UKIP induces in all Right-thinking featherbedded corporate trust-fundees.

    We’re all Americans now, Craig.

  8. I guess it gets votes – doesn’t it?

  9. yes exactly, he did that because there is a consistent part of the British electorate who is pleased by this kind of assaults on poor immigrants.

  10. Habbabkuk, we’re seeing moves to the Right all over Europe. I don’t describe the UK as a fascist state, but it has certainly been moving in a right-wing, authoritarian direction. We’ve seen this before, between WWI and WWII; severe recession, mass unemployment, austerity, poverty, the corporate media whipping up blame against “foreigners” and immigrants, detention without trial, secret courts, racist mobs like the EDL etc. We know what can happen. Exactly what would you accept as warning signs?

  11. nevermind, it will happen anyway

    29 Jul, 2014 - 3:48 pm

    Thanks for highlighting another obvious case of desperation,Craig, just about any issue is now good enough to gather nuts for later.

    This kind of backward display by the two contenders for the top job seem to have much admiration amongst the certainly calcified, their never ending love for this reaking old fashioned exploitation of public services, the ol’ fear and loathing aimed at anybody purporting that the thoughts of UKIP were a good idea and worth voting for, all this malodorous electioneering by party politicians, is nauseating.

  12. It’s been going on for decades …. in the Eighties a West Londoner Brian Turner became the ultra big headlined “GODFATHER” …. accused of a Wembley Bank Robbery …. in ultra tiny print it fleetingly mentioned that he was a “godfather” to a small child in his family circle.

  13. @Hab

    When the three main parties for people to vote for are right (labour), far right (tory), and very far right (UKIP), that doesn’t look very democratic to me…

    And when the law is being manipulated in favour of the rich and powerful… that doesn’t look very democratic either.

    As Clark has said, we pulled back from the brink before, but that was in a time of strong trades unions, and the examples of brave people like Eric Blair and Mahatma Gandhi.

  14. Out of curiosity, do Cameron, May, journalists etc have the legal right to enter someone else’s home? I can see that the immigration people were there legally (sadly), but the others…?

  15. “in the neat and clean kitchen of some poor immigrant”

    If not breaking and entering – then at least entering without consent. And trespass. And violation of privacy. Morally if not legally.

  16. Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    29 Jul, 2014 - 5:02 pm

    The democracy (lower-case) we enjoy in the US and UK is a supercilious version of the ideal. You could call it pseudo-democracy, with a dollop of fascism.

  17. Cameron can do nothing about immigration because we have an open border with the EU, and big business won’t let him deny immigrants benefits. So he’s reduced to stunts like this, which UKIP would have been vilified for. Immigration is out of control (quite literally)but the answer is to stop them coming in the first place not glorying in turfing them out of their homes.

  18. Hopefully Theresa played mother and put the kettle on while she was in the kitchen, booting out foreigners is thirsty work.

  19. Tasteless Fascisto Pigs Break Into Nice Clean Home

    Today commentators expressed outraged that Toffy Cam and Sexy Beast May were seen not dead with some flock wallpaper.

    “It’s nice, it’s clean, yet tasteless” intoned the writer. “Are there really so few people left who have the slightest idea of what constitutes decent human niceness?”

    “That kitchen needs some nice columns and red flags like they used to have down the road” declared another deeply concerned other.

    “I suspect that if you do the appropriate reading you’ll find this is the typical style of a blog that is beginning to descend into parody” smarty dull pants failed to make clear.

    Inspector Mud of the Yard dismissed questions “It’s not breaking and entering nor then least entering without consent either trespass and violation of privacy, both morally ney legally. So shut it.”

  20. Excellent post Craig.

    As others have quite rightly asked: what legal right did Cameron,May and the media have to enter this home?

  21. Seems slightly bizarre for the PM and Home Secretary to meet for a press conference in someone else’s kitchen. But let’s trust the judgement of the PM, a seasoned PR operative, to know what he’s doing.

    As to the apprehended occupants being carted off to be beaten and raped, is that truly relevant? I mean isn’t that the point of gaols? People have been beaten up and raped in prison ever since prisons were invented. What that has to do with immigration law enforcement I don’t see.

    Obviously, in a democratic society, the law must in some degree reflect the will of the majority, and in no country do the majority or even a large minority want to open the door to millions of foreign competitors for jobs, housing and the use of public infrastructure. Therefore, immigration law enforcement is a necessary condition of democracy in a world where global mass migration is practical possibility. If that means carting off lesbian Cameroonians to be raped and beaten, that’s no reason for condemning enforcment of the immigration law, it’s a reason for reforming gaols.

  22. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Jul, 2014 - 6:56 pm

    CanSpeccy

    That was an excellent 3rd paragraph, above, and not only because you used the expression “immigration law”, which makes clear what some other posters either can’t or don’t want to see, namely that we are – or should be – talking about illegal immigrants.

    Tom is correct when he said that there are two aspects to this: prevent illegal immigrants from entering, and attempt to deal with those who do succeed in entering illegally.

    I did also notice, incidentally, that Craig’s emotive post nowhere referred to the possibility that the people caught in this raid might be illegal immigrants.

  23. “Are there really so few people left who have the slightest idea of what constitutes decent human behaviour?”

    Yes, I’m afraid there are. Look at the litter strewn pavements and verges on country lanes. Look at Cameron and a couple of other chumps taking a ‘selfie’ at a funeral (Michelle Obama looking a bit thunder-faced, so perhaps she’s got better manners).

  24. Yea there are some with at least an approximation of decent behaviour, but Cameron is not one of them.

    I was truly sickened reading his statement on Gaza. As I see it anyone not condemning the source of violence between Palestine and Israel (the occupation and siege of Gaza) Is in fact helping Israel prolong it’s massacre of innocent people. Now hundreds of children included.

    Yet he says Gaza needs to stop the violence? I really don’t know how anyone can be so low. And I don’t know how grown ups anywhere can accept this because of a so called threat by Palestinians. Frankly i’d endure the ‘risk’ of far more rockets and not have children killed. Coward’s, utter cowards. What kind of a place does a Person have be in to accept this, let alone be involved in it.

    Ps, Good job keeping this blog going Craig, I peek in regularly. Keep up the good work.

  25. “they were invited by the immigration authorities to observe at first hand the work of the said agents” Bob’s you uncle.

    The lawlessness is such that these days we are resorting to the by-laws; spiting in the street, etc.

    It is quacking, it is waddling, and it is not a duck! Yeah because, is there a moustache to be seen anywhere? Is there any one goose stepping? Is anyone wearing jackboots? Is anyone clicking their heels at the sight of women? How can it be fascist then silly?

    Israel’s rank and rotten fruit is being called fascism

    As none other than Malcolm Fraser tweeted this week: “If any other country went to war killing as many civilians, women and children, it would be named a war crime.” But it is not, although the UN is asking the question of both sides.

  26. DUNO – Jewish Chronicle Special report “Team Cameron’s big Jewish backers”

    http://website.thejc.com/home.aspx?AId=46698&ATypeId=1&search=true2&srchstr=++%22big+jewish+backers+%22&srchtxt=0&srchhead=1&srchauthor=0&srchsandp=0&scsrch=0

    As a Friend of Israel Cameron voted for the Iraq war. That makes him a criminal in my book. He’s not a humanitarian.

    Miliband is no better. As someone who’s Jewish he’s in a good position to make a stand and condemn the slaughter. But all he’s thinking about is his own image.

  27. Thanks for the link Je, always good to see democracy at work.

    Yea, Image money success, Far more important aren’t they. I keep forgetting.

  28. Radio 4 PM interviewed an academic legal expert today justifying Israels bombing of civilian targets. He said that the public assume that all such bombing is illegal…
    i didn’t wait to hear the sick justification.

    If you can buy a UK politician for less than a tank, you can buy a UK academic for less than a rusty Micra.

    The No. 10 Dollywood message is that Israel’s actions are the same as evicting foreign illegal tenants.

  29. Je

    I don’t think you can make that connection between Zionism and Jewishness.

    It’s possible that Miliband is a Zionist but he has cunningly not said anything in public.

    If Israel can persuade some of the most pious Muslims alive in the world today to sacrifice their own and their Muslim victims’ blood in order to carve out a Greater Israel Empire in Syria, it can definitely persuade some Jews to be Zionists.

    But not all of them all of the time. This is a sign of the coming of the AntiChrist.

  30. Since the subject has been changed, here’s a simple solution to the problem created in Palestine by genocidal Jewish settlers.

    The West, or at least the Anglosphere, having created the racist state of Israel, should offer immediate haven to all 1.7 million Palestinian Arabs, while requiring all its own Jewish citizens to either swear allegiance to their country of residence or relocate to Israel.

    If Palestinians were received relative to national population, Britain’s share would be 244,000 or less than half of current gross annual immigration. Thus, with a moratorium on all other immigration, Britain could participate in a humane resolution to the evil of racial conflict in Palestine, while sharply reducing the domestic risk of racial conflict bred of mass immigration.

    This proposal will naturally be denounced as inhumane and racist and Jews will continue killing Arabs in Palestine while the leadership of World Jewry will continue its effort to precipitate a world war from which it hopes to gain a position of irreversible global dominance.

  31. Bah!Humbug

    Are there no prisons..?

    Trust Bah!Humbug to jump on DesPiccy’s blatant racist bandwagons.

  32. I see the EU has chosen to bow to UK/US pressure to “do as we say”. They’ve been doing this since Blair cut them up over the war with Iraq. What a disgustingly spineless organisation they have become. Certainly not acting in member countries interests.

  33. Guano, aka bird shit, is prompt to confirm my prediction:

    “This proposal will naturally be denounced as inhumane and racist”

    That was the one about inviting 244,000 Palestinians to reside in Britain.

    But apparently Guano feels that the flow of immigrants to England is insufficient, or at least until the racist English have been reduced to a dying relict population.

    Still, it’s better to be a racist, I think, than an advocate of the genocide of one’s own people.

  34. DesPiccy

    Let’s get this straight. UK politicians are perfectly free, like all other UK citizens, to support the Zionist state of Israel as individuals. What they are not free to do, any more than a Roman Catholic, or a Communist or a Muslim is to mix their own personal affinities with their representation of UK citizens in parliament.

    That’s called Lying. David Cameron belongs to a generation of politicians who have agreed to incorporate as much of our reachable neighbours into the Western Market Capitalist block.
    I agree with that policy. But when Cameron tries to wriggle out of the EU or does Trophy selfies of evicting illegal immigrants, that was not the platform he had stood on. He is lying.

    He stood on a platform of European expansion. He will never see the light of day after the election, because the UK electorate are still decent enough to detest their politicians Lying.

  35. DesPiccy

    You are unbelievable. If my yellow, blue, green or rainbow neighbour is decent to me, what’s my problem? Are these people bringing contagious diseases? Are they aliens or robots from space?

    What a sick world you inhabit which is unable to look beyond the myopic mirror of self.

  36. It doesn’t say much for European/Western civilisation does it ?

    If ever there was a good argument for dissolving of modern nation states it’s this (along with the system of robbery obviously) It’s barbarity that could not be accomplished without the power of state/corporate press, and organised state army’s of killers etc.

    I wonder if people will look back and think how fucking awful our society had become. I hope so.

    One thing I do know, those who must understand will get nothing but contempt from me forever. Maybe there is a kind of personal peace they can still find, but i’ll be fucked if I ever forget how some have acted.

    And they want me to vote FOR them. People in positions of power who can watch this and do nothing ? That’s seriously messed up people, probably in need of mantel health treatment.

  37. I see the EU has chosen to bow to UK/US pressure to “do as we say”.

    That is the beauty of global governance ushered in by none other than the President of the EU, damp rag van Rumploy, when he announced 2008 as “the first year of global governance.” What the people want is now irrelevant. The people are simply to be managed, hence PR operative Cameron as PM, Piss-prize winner and champion tele-promp reader O’Bomber as US President.

    Global governance means rule by unelected bureaucrats who seek the favor, not of the people, but the dynamic elements of the deracinated, plutocratic, global elite, who reward the politicians in proportion to their service: Phoney Blair having done particularly well, in this regard.

    The system is, of course, ancient. Thomas Macaulay describes how it worked in England in the 18th century. But now it’s gone global national interests will inevitably be trashed.

  38. What a sick world you inhabit which is unable to look beyond the myopic mirror of self.

    Try reading my In Praise of Diversity, nothing sick about that, I think.

    But I realize that someone with the alias of birdshit might well be a troll settler if not a sick self-hating Brit, and in that case the twisted notion of calling opposition to the genocide of one’s own people sick and racist makes sense in a sick and twisted way.

  39. Here’s another bit of background reading:

    “935 Lies: The Future of Truth and the Decline of America’s Moral Integrity”

    http://www.amazon.com/935-Lies-Decline-Americas-Integrity/dp/1622311655

    (And thanks to Blair, the decline of Britain’s integrity as well)

  40. scunneredwiwm

    29 Jul, 2014 - 9:06 pm

    We don’t live in a democracy and many of us are waking up to this fact. Personally, I feel stupid because it’s been a long journey to get to that realisation because I’ve been watching the BBC and reading the Guardian. I understand now that this was a mistake and they are similar tools of the state as was Pravda in USSR.

    The main stream media is either compliant or scared and the junk served over many TV stations has desensitised many people to an appalling extent.

    If catering to the lowest common denominator and feeding opium to the masses was Margaret Thatcher’s intention when she allowed Murdoch to make the inroads he did, it’s certainly had some effect.

    In my humble opinion Cameron is worried about YES in Scotland on one hand and UKIP in England on the other.

  41. The vile Tories and their BBC propagandists are vying for the lowest common denominator and the race to the bottom of the gutter. Nothing will detract them from their continued attempts to appease the racist bigotry of the white working class of middle England in order to grab grubby votes. I’ve had enough of it. The only realistic hope and last straw for the future that I see is a Scottish yes vote on the basis that it might set in motion English demands for independence from the ruling Westminster elite.

  42. Plenty more lies…. in Obama’s latest speech. No transcript yet. Apparently he made a speech exactly 10 years ago that put him on the political map. Maybe his 10 years is up?

  43. I am surprised they were not going through the cupboards.

  44. LOL, GF. They’d get someone to do that for them…

  45. @Guano
    “I don’t think you can make that connection between Zionism and Jewishness.”
    Of course you can. Zionists/Talmudites have hijacked the Hebrew religion, which after numerous distortions and innovations (From the Nile to the Euphrates, and rules on usury) became Judaism.

    Zionists make “israel” out to be a Jewish state. Did you mean something like ‘Zionism isn’t Judaism’? If so, even that is highly questionable, given that Zionist ideas have emerged from those who claim to be Jews or those that support a Jewish right to Palestine.

    Perhaps you mean not all Jews are Zionists? (although the large majority of those calling themselves do indeed subscribe to Zionism) – That’s probably as close you can get.

  46. @ Guano again.
    “It’s possible that Miliband is a Zionist but he has cunningly not said anything in public.” – Tell that to George Galloway who in a recent video taped talk with Q&A stated that he (GG) didn’t believe Miliband was a Zionist…. it was worse than that…. Miliband pretended to be one.

  47. (GG) didn’t believe Miliband was a Zionist…. it was worse than that…. Miliband pretended to be one.

    David Miliband was on the list of hasbara authors, along with the other luminaries that fat pig david aaronovitch, etc.

  48. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Jul, 2014 - 10:43 pm

    @ many of the above

    Is there a full moon tonight?

  49. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Jul, 2014 - 10:51 pm

    CanSpeccy

    “The West, or at least the Anglosphere, having created the racist state of Israel”
    __________________

    I think you’ll find that the USSR and the Communist bloc voted for the creation of the State of Israel as well. The “Anglosphere”?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    @ Fedup

    “If any other country went to war killing as many civilians, women and children, it would be named a war crime.”

    __________________________

    I don’t remember you saying that Russia’s actions in Chechniya and Dagestan were war crimes.

    Will you now take this opportunity to do so?

  50. Resident Dissident

    29 Jul, 2014 - 10:54 pm

    I agree the whole thing is tasteless – even if the immigrants concerned were here illegally we know nothing of the events that led to them breaking the law and even the guilty can be deserving of compassion rather than what is in effect gloating. The correct thing to do is to let the normal legal processes run their course rather than play them for political advantage – a point which is frequently ignored here by others from time to time.

    Clearly this whole act was all part of a co-ordinated PR campaign by the Tories coming on the day that they also announced changes in the benefit rules for immigrants – while I recognise the need for laws and controls regarding immigration, it is very unlikely that PR and short term party political needs are likely to be the best drivers for effective laws and public administration.

    I should add that the BBC can at least offer the excuse that it is very difficult for them to totally ignore what our Prime Minister and Home Secretary are up to – and that it is for the electorate to decide whether or not they approve. My concern is more with the behaviour of the Police and Immigration Authorities who are meant to be above such political interference but must have clearly connived with the whole PR stunt – with all the security required for the PM and Home Secretary a lot of pre-planning will have had to have taken place.

  51. nevermind, it will happen anyway

    29 Jul, 2014 - 10:59 pm

    Tunnels, tunnels and more tunnels, what a revelation. A 7 by 30 mile strip pf land is under economic siege and its people resort to digging tunnels, now becoming the hot issue within this O/T comment here.

    Now to the issue of one way traffic tunnels/ Why has nobody in Hamas thought of moving their missiles through these tunnels and launch them from Israel?

  52. Resident Dissident

    29 Jul, 2014 - 11:11 pm

    “I think you’ll find that the USSR and the Communist bloc voted for the creation of the State of Israel as well. The “Anglosphere”?”

    I think the UK even abstained in the critical UN vote.

    Of course what Israel is now doing in Gaza is a war crime – and the same accusation can also be levelled at the Hamas leadership, Assad and many others. I am not sure however what good attaching labels will do however for anyone apart from giving a sense of general well being to our armchair warriors. Rather than a hate hate dialogue surely the way forward is to encourage something different between the reasonable people on both sides – if people bother to look there will be plenty of people on the Israeli (and the Gazan side) who speak with a different voice from their leadership – speak to them as human beings (and drop the anti-Semitism) and then there is some chance of progress. The only thing of which I am certain is that this conflict will not be solved by one side defeating the other.

  53. @Habby re Anglosphere: I hope you are better informed than Anon (and me regarding “forcemeat”). Clue: George Orwell. Maybe the meaning has morphed a little over the years. Russia wouldn’t have been Anglosphere, and neither would Germany.

    Maybe Canspeccy was referring to thr Balfour Declaration in 1917, which was UK with US pressure (although some dispute that).

  54. Just seen your comment, RD. Britain was of course fighting with Palestine against the then terrorists in 1946-7, and many soldiers lost their lives. Excellent Channel 4 series a couple of years ago dramatizing this period. Not surprising, then, that GB abstained. Many in Britain probably wanted to vote against…

  55. He’s actually a chubby burglar. Someone should smash him with a frying pan. It would be fitting for a nobody like Cameron to be arrested for mere burglary.

    David Cameron, we know on this blog, is a 24 carat moron, and all the expensive education in the world simply can’t give him taste, or judgement, or any particular ability whatsoever, unless you count bullshit and confidence,. He is basically a total cretin who, I think due to his fund-raising abilities, and connections, has been foisted upon us to continue the neocon policies of Blair. I however am actually surprised that he’d pull a stunt so dull-witted. I presume he’s got smart people in his office advising him to attack UKIP or some such, but he’s the PM, and above such things, really.

    I note Libya is a full-on failed state now, with everyone fighting each other. Our idiot PM should doa photo-op there: mission accomplished. The Prick.

  56. @Brendan: Perhaps he just wanted to meet “The Common People”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJQ8RxzUgI

  57. Can Speccy

    Your use of the emotive word genocide instead of culture shock, leads me to believe that you are calling for violence rather than reconciliation.

    If there are issues between the values of one nation and another there will be peaceful ways of resolving them. Leave it to the Zios to find the nasty ways please.

  58. Brendan.

    Hague and Cameron should both swing for Libya, not the type they are already doing.

  59. Craig,

    Forget what constitutes decent human behaviour.

    What – I ask constitutes decent “demoracy” when many wide and far are suffering this:-

    Electile Dysfunction:

    The inability to become aroused over any of the choices put forth by either party.

  60. Sorry – ” “demoracy” – that should have read “democracy”

    Yeah – wish it was on offer.

  61. Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    29 Jul, 2014 - 11:51 pm

    Mowing the lawn keeps coming up….

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-thrasybulus-syndrome-israel’s-war-gaza-10968?page=4

    “The capacity of one symbolic incident to set the Israelis on a big war has many precedents. In 1982, the assassination of Shlomo Argov, the Israeli ambassador in London, provoked Israel to invade Lebanon, to pummel Beirut in that dreadful summer, to force the PLO’s removal to Tunisia, and to occupy the south of Lebanon for another eighteen years, creating Hezbollah. In 2006, Israel made the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers and the death of three others along the Lebanese border the occasion for a major war during which the southern suburbs of Beirut, where Hezbollah has its headquarters, were flattened. Hezbollah’s rockets flew into Israel after Israel began its air attack, not before. The preliminaries to the three campaigns in Gaza since 2008-09 show the same tendency. In the Israeli psyche, these incidents stand as a mortal threat to their existence. The wars that follow invariably cause more Israeli casualties than the initial incidents themselves. The only compensation for that is the devastation inflicted on the enemy, for which the incidents provide a convenient excuse. Then the Israelis go back to the previous policy of deterrence, until they feel compelled to mow the lawn again.”

  62. Habbakuk,

    “Is there a full moon tonight?”

    Stupid question.

    In the blogosphere,with its global reach,it’s always a full moon somewhere.

    Ya eejit troll.

  63. “The West, or at least the Anglosphere, having created the racist state of Israel”
    __________________

    I think you’ll find that the USSR and the Communist bloc voted for the creation of the State of Israel as well. The “Anglosphere”?

    in 1917, Britain promised her “best endeavours” to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine:

    “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.” (Balfour Declaration)

    The Anglosphere is a common term for Britain, the US and the former UK white dominions. The US, as the leader of the post-war Anglosphere determined the success of the state of Israel by giving it immediate diplomatic recognition.

    As for the USSR, yes they did contribute when they released the future Jewish terrorist, Nobel Piss Prize winner, and mastermind of the King David Hotel bombing, Menarchim Begin, from the Gulag in 1943.

  64. @Guano

    Your use of the emotive word genocide instead of culture shock

    Bollocks. Genocide:

    “More often …refers to a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight. The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort. Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong.”

    That’s Raphael Lemkin, the Jewish legal scholar who coined the term “Genocide.”

    The EU policy of mass migration and multi-culturalism combined with the suppression of the fertility of indigenous populations is a highly effective means of genocide as Lemkin defined it. As a consequence of it, the English are already a minority in their own capital city and in other major urban centers. In Birmingham’s elementary schools, English children are not even the largest minority. And it is in Birmingham where Muslim settlers have attempted to take control of the school system, with intent, obviously, to replace the inculcation of English culture with an alien politico-religious system.

  65. Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    30 Jul, 2014 - 1:09 am

    ” Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong.”

    It’s easy to sing platitudes from a position that resembles ‘nothing to lose’ by expressing it thus, but perhaps he only meant it to apply to the Jews.

    Assimilation of all races may not be such a bod idea, even in Scotland. Once physical differences disappear the racists rants decrease and maybe even one or two marry into your family. Once we stop bickering over our differences and focus on what is shared in common, we know this is no longer terra but Nirvana.

  66. BrianFujisan

    30 Jul, 2014 - 1:48 am

    Ben

    Scots are a Peaceable Race…Leave us be..Simples..

    But i Know of tales once the Clans were shipped oot to the Americas….

    Thanks Ben And Phil for watching my post of yesterday ..and Tito Cheers

    And to Push my Luck… Check this..its long Guys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

  67. @Ben-American Fascist

    So we are to understand that you are in favor of eliminating both the English and the Scotch as distinct racial and cultural entities, but you object to calling policies leading to that end, and imposed against the will of the the people, genocidal. Unfortunately for you and like minded liberals, Lemkin’s definition leaves no doubt that in the matter of terminology you position is insupportable.

  68. —–Press release—–

    Israel today responded to critics who questioned their
    indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, non-combatants, and
    children by the thousand in recent days. Their statement follows:

    “HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS
    HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS”


    a-Hey… didn’t we Israelis create Hamas?
    b-Shut up! Do not start with suggesting anyone should look up the creation of Hamas.
    a-Well do we like Hamas or not?
    b-We like them because we can now hate them so much! Stop it with the questioning!
    a-Ok, so – “Hamas” is still the answer to anything we do, a bit like “9/11” was the answer for our Americans?
    b-Hey, just what sort of self-hating Jew are you exactly?

  69. Resident Dissident, 29 Jul, 10:54 pm; you make a very important point:

    “My concern is more with the behaviour of the Police and Immigration Authorities who are meant to be above such political interference but must have clearly connived with the whole PR stunt”

    Craig has previously described such collusion as typical of police states – the enforcement authorities following specific instructions from politicians, violating the independence of the police. This is a very bad sign.

    Habbabkuk, isn’t this a small step in the direction of fascism?

  70. “In the blogosphere,with its global reach,it’s always a full moon somewhere.”

    Do we know where?

  71. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    30 Jul, 2014 - 8:46 am

    Where’s Blair? Utter silence, except for an American interview on the 27th – and a pretty poor performance it was. Last inferred presence – Los Angeles. From where he seems to have returned today. Was he visiting Werritty?

    I mean, you know, guys, he might have been able to prevent this…..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710397/15-Palestinians-killed-90-injured-Israeli-tank-shell-attack-UN-school-used-refugee-shelter.html

    You can see what a school looks like in the pictures.

    Here’s a picture of a tunnel:

    https://morninggloryphotography.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/tunnel.jpg?w=545&h=363

    Easy mistake to make.

    Incidentally, no warning was given of this attack, and if there had been, there was nowhere for the people – already sheltering from devastation elsewhere – to go.

  72. nevermind, it will happen anyway

    30 Jul, 2014 - 8:49 am

    Thanks Glen, maybe that explains why Hamas draws fire upon its own people, rather than shifting their missile through the tunnels, mostly destroyed now,and lob them from Israel proper.

    Who would want to target an Israeli Kibbuz if missiles originated from its compound?

  73. Don’t mention fascism, because if you do, then the whole business of zionist narrative will start unravelling, for fascism was practised only by Germans, who are the ultimate standard of evil. This is a kind of SI unit of evil that if diluted then really the zionist scum will have no place to run to, and they cannot in anyway explain away their barbarity, land theft, aggression that in return they expect to get a special dispensation of exceptionalism that absolves them for the horrors they perpetrate.

    Hence fascism then is the caricature of moustachioed leather boot and overcoat clad, heel clicking champagne drinker, who sports a monocle, and whose sole mission is nothing other than the “destruction of the j-ws”.

    Therefore anyone pointing to fascism and its practice anywhere in the big wide world (Earth included) they are talking nonsense. It is a sort of a zionist thing!

    The zionist scum bags in effect are dictating as to what the “reality is” as they revise the actualities to fit their own obtuse narrative.

  74. There are several groups opposing payment of our TV licences on Facebook. But nothing coordinated. Tony Rooke’s one-man effort was spirited, but nothign has ensued from it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZBM-pkJPio

    The BBC reports almost nothing about the genocide in Ukraine. BBC Russia put a report together where eye-witnesses to the shootdown of MH17 were interviewed claiming that a fighter plane appeared to have shot it down. The report was removed because it does not meet the BBC agenda requirements.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-bbc-report-ukrainian-fighter-jet-shot-down-mhi7-donetsk-eyewitnesses/5393631

    Something needs to be done. Getting fed crap is one thing. Having to pay for it is something else.

  75. Very good BBC. Hammond steps in with an Ebola scare when the top story should of course be that the Gaza child-killers have shelled another UN shelter. Nicely timed by the new neocon at the FCO to steal the top slot.

    Crimes against humanity should be the charge against Israel. The EU are too frightened of them to push that; the UK and US are collaborators.

  76. @Mike: US/UK seem to have taken control of the EU (level 3 sanctions yesterday for no other reason that “because we say so”). Only hope is for individual European States to reclaim their sovereignty. That might also have a big impact on voting regarding Israel/Palestine.

  77. Did you hear the one about the old lady that rang the hotel reception furious because she could see a man with no clothes on in the building opposite?

    The manager goes to her room and looks through the window. “I can’t see a naked man” he says. “You have to stand on the chair” said the old lady.

  78. @Clark: We shouldn’t be surprised by this. The current crop of Tories have emanated to some extent from the banned (by Norman Tebbit…) organisation FCS, some of whom used to wear “Hang Mandela” t-shirts. Check out on Wikipedia.

    Margaret Thatcher politicised the police at the time of the miners strike. Plenty of evidence recently emerged to support that. The FCS were well known for being more Thatcherite than Thatcher, so we shouldn’t be surprised that they are giving us a taste of what it’ll be like if they have an overall majority. If Clegg had any backbone at all, he’d withdraw support right now.

  79. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    30 Jul, 2014 - 10:10 am

    Where’s Blair?

    Yesterday: UAE. Returned at midnight.

    At a guess, this will be the propping-up-Sisi exercise, funded by UAE:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/02/tony-blair-advise-egypt-president-sisi-economic-reform

  80. An injured Gazan child is now the top picture (and story)

    Thank you BBC. Their blood cries out.

  81. That UN Protectorate story came from here.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/28/1317232/-UN-Protectorate-for-Gaza-and-West-Bank#

    ABOUT DAILY KOS

    Founded on May 26, 2002, Daily Kos is the premier online political community with 2.5 million unique visitors per month and a quarter of a million registered users. It is at once a news organization, community, and activist hub. Among luminaries posting diaries on the site are President Jimmy Carter, Senator Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and dozens of other senators, congressmen, and governors. Even more exciting than that, however, are the hundreds of thousands of regular Americans that have used Daily Kos to shape a political world once the exclusive domain of the rich, connected, and powerful.

    I can imagine the Hamas leaders, up against the wall, reading this Abbas proposal to sell out. Given the UN is less than a ‘Bandaid’ for the Palestinians now, what the hell would it be like as a UN Protectorate? Same terrible oppression. Same blue and white Israeli flags. The imperator, with its surrogates the US and the UK, would see it as a way to completely extinguish these good and so tolerant humans.

    I wonder why it has not been broadcast.

    Wonderful people the British high commands. And now forget these brown people in the East Mediterranean with their many injured and dying, with their burst ear drums from thermobaric weapons and homes collapsed to rubble.

    But hey it’s the flower show this Saturday, the Torygraph has just come through the letterbox, those wonderful athletes are hopping, jumping and cycling in Glasgow, house prices are going up fast and we’re off to our holiday home in Corfu soon.

    As with the Palestinians, forget all the young adults who are billeted with their parents until they are in their 30s. The fact that the people at the bottom go on losing out all the time in this world of rabid capital is one of the most difficult things to bear.

  82. It’s all a horrible,tasteless show! and is meant to make stupid people think that the government is trying to reduce immigration.
    This government and the one before is in favour of mass immigration,it is almost their only economic policy.

  83. We have a figure for the number of decent Israeli Jews – less than 4% think Israeli has used excessive firepower against targets in the Gaza Strip.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/over-90-of-jewish-israelis-say-gaza-op-justified/

  84. Finkelstein put it best, when he said Israel was now “a lunatic state”. Unfortunately pandered to by the rest of the world.

  85. Cameron outlines immigration curbs ‘to put Britain first’

    David Cameron said the “magnetic pull” of UK benefits had to be addressed so people came for the right reasons and the rules “put Britain first”.

    The prime minister also warned people who are in the UK illegally: “We will find you, we will send you home.”

    The contrived and manipulated raid was intended to mesh with the above announcement and reinforce a recognized vote winning construct.

    Hypnotic, irresistible, seductive WebCameron ‘Hollywood’ bollocks.

  86. @Peacewhisher – “US/UK seem to have taken control of the EU (level 3 sanctions yesterday for no other reason that “because we say so”). Only hope is for individual European States to reclaim their sovereignty. That might also have a big impact on voting regarding Israel/Palestine.”

    I also think that the US and the EU have had similar aims for a long time.

  87. It wasn’t always thus, GF. For example, at the turn of the century, the EU was very much against US/UK plans for surveillance of electronic traffic.

  88. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    30 Jul, 2014 - 11:10 am

    We have a figure for the number of decent Israeli Jews – less than 4% think Israeli has used excessive firepower against targets in the Gaza Strip.

    Can’t argue with the stats, can you? We now have the true measure of this great nation. Incidentally, the figures are not too different in the US.

  89. I’ve just read in the Guardian that Philip Hammond refused this morning to say whether he thought Israel’s actions in Gaza were disproportionate – despite being asked 5 times on the Today programme.

    No wonder Israelis have lost any sense of decent-mindedness when they have sycophants like that to appease them.

  90. je, 10:46 am; I think there are serious reasons to doubt that 4% figure:

    http://tabithatroughton.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/standing-with-the-israelis/

    Media companies have their own agendas that rarely include peace, which sells little daily media, thus attracting few eyes to corporate adverts, just for starters. There are ways to warp opinion polls – how the sample is selected (ask yourself what could be done with all that telephone metadata. In Israel!), the timing with regard to other events including the media’s own reporting, and what exact wording is used. Maybe psychologists / PR experts are asked to frame the questions such as to provoke a specific response. Compare the response to the Iraq poll in the UK, for instance. Please don’t let the corporate media marginalise those whose voices are calling for peace, and such calls from within Israel are particularly valuable to the peace argument.

  91. @ Peacewisher – “It wasn’t always thus, GF. For example, at the turn of the century, the EU was very much against US/UK plans for surveillance of electronic traffic.”

    Good old times, eh?

  92. 10.50-BBC,EU,racist propaganda suggesting that working “Native” British all lazy,drug ridden,wife beating,benefit dependent and living off the state.
    Luckily the working class don’t watch the BBC!

  93. It’s divide and conquer from the corporate media. Convince us peace supporters that we hardly any support in this country or that, or anywhere. Beat the drums for war, just as Herman Hesse said pre-WWII, but now with modern technology. Just don’t buy it. Literally.

  94. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    30 Jul, 2014 - 11:35 am

    Mark – that’s old news. Since then he’s been to Vietnam, China, the US and the UAE, without a chirp out of him about Gaza since the 16th, when his Netanyahu-dictated ceasefire proposal was given the reception it deserved.

    Details may be found on previous comments pages.

    This would be in line with the growing picture of the Quartet as a cabal of globalists intent on diluting the UN’s influence and eventually exploiting the cheap labour market to be offered by the Palestinians in their Bantustans. If so, he’ll be staying in the job. He’s doing fine.

  95. Clark – Thanks for the link. I hope for their sake, as well as the Palestinians, that that figure isn’t accurate.

  96. Geoffrey, 11:30 am; thanks; that demonstrates my point nicely. The corporate media is above us plebs; we’re all filth – in the EU, the States, and even Israel. Bomb, bomb, bomb humanity. Bomb each other. You all hate each other anyway, don’t you? You hate each other, and love our papers and TV programmes that tell you others are inferior to you. Buy us! Betray each other!

    Next up, there’s a really exciting and violent war film, where everyone dies except the young beautiful people who save each other and have sex happily ever after.

    That’s Right Folks Don’t Touch That Dial!

  97. “There are several groups opposing payment of our TV licences on Facebook.”

    To say nothing of Sky and Rupert Murdoch’s empire – of course some socialists believe that some things are better provided by collective provision rather than relying on the free markets for everything. If you think the BBC is bad try Fox News.

  98. We know you all hate each other because we know what films you buy – war, crime, death, guts, blood, and horror. We know exactly which scenes moved you most. We monitored your heart rate and breathing in the cinema. The cameras in our Intel set-top boxes captured the expressions on your faces as you saw the scenes unfolding before your eyes…

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