Absolute Lies From the Guardian 121


The Guardian have just published the most disgusting outright lies imaginable. I just got back from the St James Centre – I was literally just passing through on my way to change for this evening’s meeting. I saw Ed Miliband beetle in and beetle out again.

There was a prepared claque of Labour members with No signs, who had naturally attracted some curious Yes passers-by too. Miliband only does carefully controlled no opposition photocalls, so when there was some hackling and badinage he immediately scuttled away again. There was absolutely no pushing; shoving or threat. I have been in larger crowds at the chemists’ prescription counter. I personally called out “war criminal”, which I had every right to do.

To portray this as an angry mob denying free speech is so far removed from the truth that Severin Carrell should be sacked immediately. The man is a disgrace. He is of course only part of a deliberate effort to portray Scots as a violent group of intolerant nationalists. We are of course guilty of failing to show hushed deference to any Westminster trougher and war criminal they dare to send to address us.


121 thoughts on “Absolute Lies From the Guardian

1 2 3 4 5
  • Cammy

    @fred ”

    I’ve just watched the video on the news.

    It isn’t the Guardian who is telling lies.


    You are talking mince my friend, saw nothing on the news and clip posted here shows nothing.

  • Reluctant Observer

    Having read the Guardian piece, and watched some ITV footage on the event, I see this blog post is mistitled. It ought to read, “Absolute lies ABOUT the guardian.”

  • Republicofscotland

    Typical unionist press, backing up the Westminster regime, to portray anything nationalist in a bad light, as for Miliband he’s double speak popinjay at best.

    Big yes gathering in Glasgow’s George Square tonight, STV and SKY showed the masses gathering BBC showed nothing, meeting arranged by I think Martin Compston Scot actor, hopefully someone will upload the meet on social media.

  • Republicofscotland

    Interesting that my first comment, which was also the first comment on this thread, was deleted within minutes. All I’d done was ask for evidence that Ed Miliband is a “war criminal”.

    Obviously, as referendum day approaches, some clamping down is deemed necessary by Craig, or one of his minions, to prevent “unhelpful” questions being asked.
    ———————————-

    Is probably more likely that your first comment was so boring and depressing and utterly dismal, that the spam filter automatically removed it. Don’t forget I’ve had the misfortune to read some of your dross laden squawks.

  • Mary

    Muscle Guy’s post on the previous thread ref Severin Carrell.

    Muscleguy
    16 Sep, 2014 – 5:13 pm
    Just come back from a series of flying pop up Yes (RIC) mini stalls and leafleting. Jumping around Dundee to catch different crowds. We had a French journalist from l’Humanité (sp?) who moved about with us, interviewing each of us and showing great interest.

    When Severin Carrell from the Guardian came with us for a mass canvas he showed not the blindest bit of interest in us as people motivated to give our time to the campaign.

    Never fear, the world press is watching Scotland with intense interest. What we are doing with our anarchic, uncentralised grassroots campaign is remarkable and I’m sure will be copied abroad. We have taken what Obama did in his first election campaign, adapted and improved it.

    Can’t stay long though, back out again this evening. It’s tiring, but we are on the final stretch. I’m a runner, that is when you need to spend every bit of strength. Saving some to get the vote out on Thurs. We are copying the SNP’s expertise in this. We know where our voters are from extensive canvassing and we will have the boots on the ground to chap their doors and get them to the polls by encouragement or a called car if necessary. BT/U-KOK/NT simply do not have the boots and if they have them they are elderly. 7am to 10pm is a long time. In the battle of getting the vote out, we will win.

    BTW Dundee will vote Yes by a big margin. You can hold me to that. I’ve chapped a lot of the doors and totalled my canvass returns, so have others in RIC. There are way more people in the schemes than the middle class areas in this city and they are overwhelmingly Yes.

  • Ba'al Zevul (For Scotland)

    I don’t know if Miliband’s as ineffectual and generally weird as the media, in other contexts, make out. I somehow doubt it – getting to be party leader usually requires guile, low cunning, and a lot of pull in the right places – or at least (see Cameron) the last of these.

    He’d probably have encouraged the Labour faithful in Scotland by putting clear blue water between himself and Cameron (BTW, anyone noticed the Liberals in this? I haven’t), but he’d have been wide open to the smear of espousing old-skool socialism back home once things returned to normal. He can’t promise anyone anything because he hasn’t got a majority. So Ed’s between a rock, a hard place and a glacial erratic.

    But he’s not a war criminal.

  • bjsalba

    Well, well. Ed’s little photo op was a bit spoiled. There there little boy don’t pout. Save your tears and tantrums for when they will really be needed – like a YES vote.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Craig

    “I personally called out “war criminal”, which I had every right to do.”
    __________________

    You certainly have that right, but if your interjection was typical of the other interjections then it is perhaps not altogether surprising that Mr Miliband “scuttled away”, not stopping to discuss an aspect of policy the relevance of which to the independence debate is not immediately obvious.

  • Tony M

    The entire parliamentary Labour Party, along with as many Tories, ARE guilty of waging a war of aggression, in complete disregard for long established international law and inarguably have by their actions facilitated a genocide of the Iraqi people, from the despicable barbaric sanctions, to ‘shock and awe’ and invasion, then stoking sectarianism. Either by NATO, if not then certainly on behalf of NATO, a chemical weapons attack in which over a thousand died horribly was staged in Syria. Of course he’s a war criminal, indictable as such, and it can’t soon enough for the rest of the New Labour clique too. His party and his leadership are steeped in blood, which will never wash away. Turn him and them over to the Iraqis and Syrians, see if they’ll bow before their former imperial masters.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Ho hum. This is when everything goes somewhat OTT, isn’t it?”
    ______________________

    Zeus – aka Captain Komoo-Baal – yawns from his perch on Mount Olympus as he contemplates the foolish going-on of mere mortals far below.

    Not really OT, I’d say.

    And if it is, then Zeus will no doubt have duly noticed – although will never admit – that funnily enough, it wozn’t Habbabkuk wot started it… 🙂

  • Republicofscotland

    You certainly have that right, but if your interjection was typical of the other interjections then it is perhaps not altogether surprising that Mr Miliband “scuttled away”, not stopping to discuss an aspect of policy the relevance of which to the independence debate is not immediately obvious.
    —————————-

    No no no, the above comment is utter waffle, Miliband, like you needs to grow a pair.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    John Edards

    “??and was surprised how often the word “scum” is applied to those who disagree with them.”

    ______________________

    That’s a word our amigo “Fedup” uses at least two times per line – usually as in “Zionist scum”.

    Insofar as I can understand his semi-literate ravings, he tends to use it against people with whom he disagrees.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Am I right in thinking that this is not so much of a problem in the Scottish Parliament? Its proceedings are rarely reported in England, obviously.”
    ____________________

    You are right on the first count and wrong on the second; according to my observations, proceedings in the Scottish parliament get a fair amount of airtime on the “BBC Parliament” free-to-air channel.

  • Anon1

    Reluctant Observer

    Normally Craig has been quite good on moderation, but recently he has taken to deleting anything critical of his views. I might conclude that Craig is very happy to allow free speech unless he deems the matter being debated to be of “critical importance” (eg, Scottish independence), in which case he will simply remove opposing views without hesitation. I’ve been wondering how he justifies this to himself, but I think he probably just tells himself it’s for the “greater good”.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    RepublicOfHolocaustDeniers

    “Is probably more likely that your first comment was so boring and depressing and utterly dismal, that the spam filter automatically removed it. Don’t forget I’ve had the misfortune to read some of your dross laden squawks.”
    ___________________

    Rather rich coming from someone whose absurd and disgraceful Holocaust denying comments caused Craig to delete two entire threads.

    You are a provocateur and your entrée to this blog – a concern about Scottish independence – was a mere bluff.

    Are you self-standing or are you commenting under instruction, RoS?

  • King of Nothing

    @Reluctant Observer. I know this is very important to Craig and many others but I’m feeling a bit Scotland-weary now. It’s dominating the other forums I visit also.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    This thread is rather interesting because for once the Yessers seem to be in a minority, not to say on the back foot.

    Wake up, lad and lassies, the fate of the noble Scottish nation will stand or fall on your efforts on this blog over the next few dozen hours!!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    As Her Most Gracious Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, By the Grace of God Defender of the Faith has already said : people should think carefully before voting.

  • Ba'al Zevul (For Scotland)

    Guano. Yet. Maybe. *crystal ball shows BSOD* But not now.

    Tony M.
    I think there are much better points to be made in favour of independence from the UK, frankly. Portraying one side as a bunch of bloodthirsty monsters and the other as rampaging politicised thugs who threaten democracy (you know, that system with a requirement for trial before conviction) gets no-one anywhere. Let’s stick to the issues.

  • Republicofscotland

    Are you self-standing or are you commenting under instruction, RoS?

    —————
    No I’m sitting down you moron.

  • Republicofscotland

    As Her Most Gracious Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, By the Grace of God Defender of the Faith has already said : people should think carefully before voting.
    —————
    We have, it will be YES!

    ———————
    There nothing gracious about old Queen Lizzie, begging your pardon mam.

  • Tony M

    It can’t be said Ed Miliband didn’t know Blair’s Iraq mania was following a Nazi playbook, his brother was Tony Blair’s backroom fixer and flunkey, and he was himself right up the US neo-cons’ fundament, as was brother David ‘Brains’ Miliband. If Ed didn’t know the dodgy dossier was absolute codswallop, or says so only now, he’s a liar or he’s far too dim to lead a pony much less a party. Scum is too nice a word for Nu-Lab apparatchiks, pond-life is at best benign. They are unfit for purpose, a new left-of-centre party is needed. Don’t vote for people or listen to people, Brown, Darling etc. who’re liable to be dragged off to the Hague’s International Criminal Court, in the near future.

  • guano

    Tony M

    If as you say failing to oppose war crime sufficiently counts as a war crime, so am I. Kurdish Pershmerga have found Afghanis among the ISIS dead. Pakistani imams have made fatwas that you can kill your fellow Muslims if they are defending the strategic positions of local spineless Ziombie Muslim leader such as Miliband.

    Where’s the fatwa that you can shoot up the local women and children and kill the men for selling coffee and burgers in the Assad controlled areas of Syria? Are there no refugee camps? I hear Baa! Humbug ask. There is not a hair’s difference between any of the jihadists fighting across the Muslim world. Is USUKIS going to shoot its own muftis of hate?

    I don’t think so.

1 2 3 4 5

Comments are closed.