The Gordon and Dougie Show 420

Gordon Brown and wee Dougie Alexander once bestrode the world, bombing much of it. Now these mighty egos are confined within Elderslie Village Hall.


The problem is, the average member of the population does not have a high opinion of the dynamic duo. So it is essential that they are kept away from average people, and instead paraded only before vetted audiences of Labour activists. There are not very many of those; so the venues are tiny, with a small number of carefully bunched people holding silly placards, photographed by a compliant media only from carefully prepared angles.

Now I plunge happily into politically incorrect ground. As normal people have abandoned it and Labour has come down to the core of its core support, it is truly striking how remarkably ugly its hardcore activists are. I don’t mean that in any metaphorical sense. I mean that they are an aesthetic disaster. It is not a product of poverty, as the core support are all well employed as research assistants or doing pretendy youth work jobs for Labour councils. Other parties do not have such challenging physiognomy. It is very seldom you can look at a room and say Gordon Brown is one of the best looking people there. Perhaps Blair’s crimes have been written on the faces of all the complicit.

Douglas Alexander not only facilitated the use of Diego Garcia for torture and extraordinary rendition, in an act of extreme hypocrisy the evil little shit also declared a “marine conservation area” around it. In the 1960’s Britain forcibly deported the entire population of the islands to make way for the US Air Base. Faced with a continual political and legal fight for them to return, Alexander sought to make it impossible with his “marine conservation area”. There is nobody who better represents Scottish Labour’s loss of its soul than Alexander. If Mhairi beats him I shall be extremely happy.

420 thoughts on “The Gordon and Dougie Show

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  • Herbie

    The difference of course is that Fred’s SNP fascists are all in his imagination.

    There are real fascists in the Ukraine.

    They’re proud of their fascism, and they were used to provide muscle to the Maidan. In fact they were employed to this purpose.

    The same applies to the football “hooligans”. The teams were owned by oligarchs, who formed hooligan ultras to a similar purpose.

    They’ve become a nuisance now of course, and Porky’s only option is to keep them fighting in the east, so that they don’t come for him and his American friends.

    Point is. Porky now needs Russia as enemy, to keep the fascists occupied.

    He can’t make peace, even if he wanted.

  • harry law

    If only all political activists looked like the lovely, no, gorgeous ex Corby MP Louise Mensch, I would go to more meetings.She was aesthetically pleasing as well.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “This one can only be understood at a global level, I’m afraid.”

    “You have to seek out the truth”

    “You have to understand the bigger picture”


    Lofty sentiments indeed, Herbie.

    So lofty that you appear to have suffered from oxygen starvation in the course of acquiring them.

    ¨Perhaps that would explain why you appear unable to read posts carefully – or if you do read them carefully, of understanding them.

    But how do we explain your fabrications, Herbie, except perhaps as an attempt to divert?


    Task for Herbie : to indicate where and when I have vaunted various Oxford colleges and where and when I have talked about the Oxford tutorial system.

    Off you go!

  • Mary

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    TTIP – Business without limits
    Reuters / Yves Herman
    Since the EU and USA have been involved in secret negotiations regarding a free trade agreement, criticism of the project has not ceased. The citizens and their elected representatives in the EU parliament feel deprived of their democratic rights. It is feared that in order to come to a deal with the Americans, the EU Commission might sacrifice important regulations and consumer rights in the name of free trade. But where do the differences actually lie between Europe and the United States? Are US citizens really less protected against the interests of large corporations than Europeans? What is the situation regarding GM food and how about data protection? ‘TTIP – Business Without Limits’ looks for answers to these fascinating questions.

    Due to copyright restrictions, this video can only be viewed on RT’s live feed. Time of broadcast is available on RT’s schedule page

  • Dreoilin

    “Using the 24 hr clock just comes naturally to me. But is it so unusual?”

    It is here, I think. (I can’t remember offhand what they use on those large boards for Arrivals and Departures at Dublin airport, but it could be 24-hour.)

    Wikipedia says

    “24-hour clock

    “It is popularly referred to as military time in the United States, English speaking Canada,[4] and a handful of other countries[1] where the 12-hour clock is still dominant.”

    You’d never hear your average Joe in Dublin speaking in terms of 1500 hours. (He’d be asked who did he think he was, James Bond?)

  • John Goss

    “They’ve become a nuisance now of course, and Porky’s only option is to keep them fighting in the east, so that they don’t come for him and his American friends.”

    I’m not sure that’s his only option. Though there are still fascists in the area of Shirokino. Two links here are breaking and not properly substantiated (so I am sharing them on that basis). One relates to the crucifixion and immolation of a separatist as an example to others. The other opening fire on a humanitarian aid convoy, killing one unarmed man, wounding another, and taking others prisoner and confiscating the vehicle. Though sketchy one of the trucks appears to have left the rest of the convoy.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    I’ve just realised where Herbie’s got his obsession about Oxford tutorials and Oxford dons from.

    It must have been the couple of times I suggested he was a university lecturer somewhere – based, if I recall, on his insistence on always having the last word. Well, it’s true that doctors and priests also always want to have the last word, but I came to the conclusion that Herbie’s themes were more those of a slightly disgruntled university lecturer stuck in a kind of 1970s time warp.

    Herbie obviously has a good memory if nothing else. Anyway, it’s gratifying to think that something I said casually, ages ago, has festered away in the recesses of his mind ever since and has influenced him so greatly.

    Get over it, Herbie!

  • Dreoilin

    “She was aesthetically pleasing as well.”

    As well as what? She’s made a fool of herself on Twitter more than once.

  • Mary

    25/134 so far, mostly personal insults.


    1. A completely unprovoked insult to me ‘You evil old crone’.

    2. Now he questions my voting choices. I have several candidates other than the main parties to choose from. My vote is secret! Apart from the numbers on the reverse of the polling papers. We vote for a shower of local councillors too.


  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    And by the way, Herbie, if you wish to discourse on Oxford then I shouldn’t talk about “personal tutors” if I were you.

    It might make one think about the euphemistically-named “personal services” to which I suspect you might have occasional (frequent?)recourse.

  • Mary

    Mhairi made it on to the BBC Six O’clock News tonight in a segment on Paisley. 6.20pm approx.

    Go Mhairi.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)


    ““She was aesthetically pleasing as well.”

    As well as what? ”

    I think the idea was that she might also be a damned good shag.

    (Forgive the smut, but I know you’re not Mary! 🙂 )

  • Mary

    Attacks on Gaza:
    January – March 2015

    In the first quarter of 2015, Israeli occupation forces killed one Palestinian civilian and wounded a further 16 in the Gaza Strip.

    In the three months January-March, there were six military incursions – when Israeli forces invade the Gaza Strip then withdraw – and 67 shooting attacks on land and at sea (these are conservative figures, taken from UN OCHA, PCHR-Gaza, and media sources).

    These routine ceasefire violations and attacks on civilians target farmers, fishermen, and unarmed protesters. The Israeli military’s unilateral imposition of a ‘no go’ zone close to the border fence, as well as in Gaza’s waters, is a key part of the blockade.


    Attacks on Gaza – January-March 2015
    Posted by The Medialens Editors on April 27, 2015, 3:20 pm

    Attacks on Gaza – January-March 2015
    Ben White

    Late on Thursday, a rocket was fired from inside the Gaza Strip into Israel, causing no damage or injuries. Subsequently, Israeli forces shelled a Hamas base in northern Gaza, also causing no injuries.

    This was the first rocket fired from Gaza this year, according to the Israeli military, and the fourth rocket fired from inside Gaza to land inside Israeli territory since the August 2014 ceasefire (the previous incident took place on December 19, 2014).

  • Dreoilin


    Presumably because – as I keep telling you – Craig said he was welcome here. And decent people realise that since this is Craig’s blog, his wishes should be respected. Now stop shouting.

    “Now he questions my voting choices.”

    No, he asked for your recommendations, actually.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)


    “25/134 so far, mostly personal insults.”

    Nonsense. Mostly very pertinent points and questions.


    “1. A completely unprovoked insult to me ‘You evil old crone’.”

    Nonsense. An excellent description, based on the subject and spirit of the post of yours to which I was reacting.


    2. “Now he questions my voting choices. I have several candidates other than the main parties to choose from. My vote is secret!”


    Yet more nonsense. No one is asking you how you will vote and since you have not told us, it cannot be that anyone is questioning your choice of party.

    My post asked you for a recommendation, for advice, given that you have slagged off the Conservatives, Labour, LibDems and that one cannot vote for the SNP on England.

    Basically, I suppose I was asking you to be constructive for a change, rather than entirely negative. Did that annoy you so?




    ¨Please refrain from shouting, you might wake people up.

  • Dreoilin

    “Forgive the smut, but I know you’re not Mary!”

    I’m not easily “shocked” Habbabkuk. (And I don’t pretend, either.)

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    re Mhairi Black

    Well, I’ve read up a little about her and she seems to be a bit crude, a bit of a loudmouth, a tad gobby. And, at 20, what does she really know about life?

    ON THE OTHER HAND – she is …… young, fresh; she might – as did Bernadette Devlin all those years ago – liven up the HoC a little. And she IS standing against D. Alexander, Esq.

    It’s a tough call, but by way of a holding operation, can we all agree to call her, henceforth:

    OUR Mhairi ?

  • John Goss

    “They’ve become a nuisance now of course, and Porky’s only option is to keep them fighting in the east, so that they don’t come for him and his American friends.”

    I’m not sure that’s his only option. I wrote that because my understanding is the Poroshenko, or at least his advisors, want to integrate the fascists into the regular conscripted battalions. My guess is that they would be the leaders, being already battle-hardened, to be trained by the Yanks how to torture their captives.

    Before posting the last two links I had not watched the video. Now I have and wish I had not. Early in the conflict, civil-war, whatever you want to call it, I heard a woman who had fled to Russia tell how she witnessed a neighbour’s young son crucified, I think she said nailed to a door. Then the mother was dragged around behind the fascists’ van until she was dead. I could not bring myself to believe such a wicked story.

    So if they are not fascists and Nazis what are they? Anyone?

  • fedup

    Hi Brian, thanks there mate, and by the way did you manage to conclude the physical representation of wabi-sabi you were thinking about?


    Clark you misrepresented the “multi identity management” as entities masquerading with different identities on different boards/blogs/fora.

    The multiple identity management wares afford the various keyboard warriors the opportunity to masquerade as multiple persons on the same site/thread/blog. You know how easy it is to use proxies to change IP addresses etc, as well as the relevant meta data.

    Further as for your contention for; producing the evidence, what degree of veracity is sought for the said evidence, what depth and breadth would be acceptable levels of of any admissible evidence, and finally do you really think I have nothing better to do than spend my time debunking a bunch of miscreants? These do an excellent job all by their littleselves, and need no help from anyone.

    Your optimism declaring spring time at the sight of the very first flower bud; dismisses the oodles of bilge and unconscious drivel spewed to the contrary.

    Those who reflexively criticise Habbabkuk, please note his comment at 8:48 pm.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    If Baltimore gangs have made an agreement “to take down police officers”, why have none been attacked?

    Is claim just fabricated to protect the cops in a tough spot?

  • Dreoilin

    “You can stay out of it Dreoilin.”

    Oh gosh, thanks, Mary!

    But I’ll do what I please. (Subject to official moderation.)

  • fred

    “You obviously weren’t paying attention during the Scottish referendum,when not one newspaper supported independence,and every national newspaper carried Better Togethers scaremongsring stories as fact.”

    If the papers warned that the price of oil could fall and leave Scotland underfunded they were proved right and the SNP proved wrong. that isn’t scaremongering it’s pointing out a political party is not telling the truth.

  • fred

    “Republicofscotland, something I find ironic is the similarity of arguments deployed. People such as Fred depict the supporters of Scottish independence as “Nazis and fascists”.”

    I wondered when the “people such as Fred” would start.

    Nazi, National Socialist. The SNP are Nationalists and they are Socialists therefore they are Nazis.

    The other similarities, such as intimidating people who criticise them, don’t help much either.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mr Goss

    “I heard a woman who had fled to Russia tell how she witnessed a neighbour’s young son crucified, I think she said nailed to a door.”

    Very like the atrocity stories about the German troops in Belgium in August 1914 – hostages crucified, babies skewered on Uhlans’ lances, etc, etc.

    All exposed as complete UK fabrications subsequently.


    “Then the mother was dragged around behind the fascists’ van until she was dead. I could not bring myself to believe such a wicked story.”


    You old hypocrite, Mr Goss – you can’t believe it, but that doesn’t stop you gleefully re-telling it on here, eh?


    Conclusion – get back to your own blog, you Cuckoo.

  • Herbie

    Yes, John.

    Putting these fascists in the regular army is the tried and tested way of neutering a violent extreme military unit who though once essential and useful have now become a danger to the new arrangements.

    Hitler did it with the SA.

    Britain did it with the UDA and UVF.


    Thing is though, these Ukrainian fascists know that too.

    Generally you whack the important leaders and then the otherwise rudderless groupies are easily incorporated.

    The leadership will have prepared themselves for this and will no doubt be making arrangements.

    People just don’t understand that a violent, militant, organized, 5% is well capable of taking over a country as weak as the Ukraine.

  • Mary

    Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (16 – 22 April 2015)
    Thursday, 23 April 2015

    Israeli forces continued to use excessive force against peaceful protests in the West Bank.

    4 protestors, including 2 children, were wounded in Bil’in and Ni’lin weekly protests.

    5 protestors, including a child, were wounded during other protests.

    2 children were arrested during a protest around Ofer detention facility in Ramallah.

    Israeli forces continued to open fire at border areas in the Gaza Strip.

    3 Palestinian civilians, including a child, were wounded, east of Khan Yunis in the south of the Gaza Strip.

    Israeli navy forces opened fire 4 times at Palestinian fishing boats in the north and south of the Gaza Strip.

    Fishing nets and a fishing boat sustained damage.

    Israeli forces conducted 62 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank, 5 in East Jerusalem and 2 others in the Gaza Strip.

    37 Palestinian civilians, including 7 children and a woman, were arrested.

    10 of these civilians, including 2 children, were arrested in occupied Jerusalem.

    Israel continued to impose a total closure on the oPt and has isolated the Gaza Strip from the outside world.

    Israeli forces established a number of checkpoints in the West Bank.

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