Israeli Criminals No Longer Welcome 176


The state of Palestine today becomes a member of the International Criminal Court. This has a practical significance beyond the additional political pressure it piles on Israel. It means that in future Israelis will be liable to the jurisdiction of the court for crimes committed on Palestinian territory, despite Israel’s refusal to sign up to the court along with that other international rogue state, the United States of America.

In the case of the murders on the Mavi Marmara, the Court ruled that the scale of the incident did not reach the bar required for the Court’s jurisdiction – that it does not try war crimes which are individual acts. However it will be impossible to argue that at the next mass Israeli killing in Gaza, or even at the next large scale seizure of territory for Israeli settlements.

One of the many disgraces of neo-con government in the UK is the existence of legislation passed by the UK parliament specifically to allow Israeli war criminals to visit the UK without fear of arrest. That however will be overridden by Britain’s obligation to detain and hand over persons indicted by the International Criminal Court. Today’s apparently small step could change the atmosphere for the arrogant Israeli elite in a fundamental way. They will no longer be able to massacre hundreds of Palestinian women and children whenever they feel it boosts their cause, without some concern about personal consequences.

With the prospect of a deal bringing Iran back into the international community also appearing bright, we can be allowed a rare moment of optimism.


176 thoughts on “Israeli Criminals No Longer Welcome

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  • Tony_0pmoc

    I was there at the age of 19 and a part of it in West Gorton Manchester – ICL..

    Yes, but that would defeat the entire purpose and point of the world wide web..you can, we can.. write about these evil [email protected] inside our web..cos they didn’t fckin write it.

    We did..Sure the American Psychos’s developed The Internet to maintain military communications in the event of a nuclear Wold Wide War.

    Why Did The American Psychos Want a World Wide War??.

    Us British – Conrad Bernays Lee and his Son Tim..made it work for everyone,,across the entire World..Us British Didn’t Exactly Plan it ,we just did it. we thought wtf..Give it away For Free. .How many D.kin Spiders Do You Want?

    I used to work at ICL too.

    We were 10 Years Ahead of The Americans in West Gorton Manchester..and Bracknell, Berkshire and London

    The INTERNET – The WORLD WIDE WEB

    is

    ENGLISH

    But The entire World Is Invited..in Every Language Under The Sun

    Tony

  • fred

    “I used to work at ICL too.

    We were 10 Years Ahead of The Americans in West Gorton Manchester..and Bracknell, Berkshire and London”

    I was there too, working with Univac, ICL were shit.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    ICL developed The modern computer including virtual addressing virtual storage and everything..IBM didn’t even think about it until 15 years later..and it was was still shit..I thought FFS….it was like going back to a slide rule

    What have we got..so far as I can tell we have got the most Beautiful Planet in The Solar System..Possibly The Universe..###

    And We Have Got These Crazed Americans..Trying To Nuke Russia and Our Entire World…

    And I am Not Supposed to Be Annoyed??

    What more can I do to wake you up?

    Its not about me…Its about you..and your children too…

    Don’t you want change??

    Don’t You Think The Entire World Should BOYCOTT THE USA?

    If we don’t trade with them..they will be too skint to Nuke us.

    Tony

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I never thought I was that good..but they seemed to think I was..and then about 1978..and I was only like 25 at the time..They Said..Test This…

    I was ICL’s Trials Supervisor..They had Already Sent Me To Represent The Comapny With The Government Cantral Computer Agency..and I Knew Them All…and ake How The Fuck Can I Test This Fucker…

    It’s The Most Powerful Computer In The World

    Built in Ashton-U-Lyne

    It Does it in Parallel

    We Blew The Cray Away..

    Queen Mary College Took it Off Us,,and Then We Built another

    Do It Again.

    Tony

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Then Margaret Thatcher Got Elected ..and Closed Down The North of England..and so many people were made redundant in The North of England..that I simply couldn’t get another job,,so I bought myself a Commodore VIC with 16K memory expansion card and learnt to write computer games..I had been doing it for about 9 months..then this job came up again in London..that I had applied for a year previously,,and came second…so I went for it again..and they offered me the job…It was considerably more than I had been earning at ICL..and they offered me full Relocation Expenses,,There was no way I could day say No..When My New Girl Said She Would Move Down To London With Me..Job as Well She Worked For a Bank…

    what more do you want to know..well you don’t want to know anything..you just want me to stop polluting Craig Murray’s Blog with my own shit..whilst You are trying to make out I am a space cadet off my head..on all the fckin shit you have never actually done..including diving in the Maldives..and no I was never supposed to do that..cos I have myatonia congenita..its an inherited muscular disease,I have faked it all my life..don’t fckin ask.

    Tony

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I am also really good looking as is my wife..but I don’t want to rub it in..but we both work physically hard too..and I write too. Just meet my wife..at a gig..she will introduce you to me.

    That is Tony

    The Lunatic Dancing at The Front.

    Tony xx to Mary & Dreolin & Mark & Craig.

  • John Goss

    The war of agression supported by fascists and fascist supporters (no names but you know who you are) is poised to restart. There are no winners in war. But an unjust war of aggression, funded by the west, on the poor residents of Donbas, which you loons will say was perpetrated by Russia (who actually engineered the peace) is a crime against humanity. Those who support it are sick in the head.

    http://en.hunternews.ru/?p=752

  • Mary

    From the Medialens editors.

    University of Southampton confirms its decision to cancel Israel conference

    Posted by The Editors on April 2, 2015, 6:01 am

    The statement below was issued last night after a last-ditch appeal from the organisers in a direct meeting with the Vice-Chancellor.

    A shameful decision.

    DC

    ~~~~

    I agree.

  • craig Post author

    Fred,

    It is not quite that simple. Customary International Law is a kind of international equivalent of common law, and when something becomes well-established legal practice it can be and is enforced without necessarily adherence to a treaty. The UN Convention on the Law of the Sea for example is generally now regarded as having the status of customary international law, ie you can’t evade it just by not signing.

  • nevermind

    Thanks for the link to the petition Mary, signed. Habbakuk, your excuses don’t work anymore and the Zionists housing policies prove, acknowledged by many others, that their stealing of land and property, as well as the discriminating towards Arab Palestinian citizens of Israel is APARTHEID.

    Israel is a child killing Apartheid state and I pity those Jews who have supported Satanyahu for so long, for they do not know what they are doing by keeping this Moloch alive.

  • nevermind

    My message to Southhampton students is to declare a piece of ground your conference space and organise it outside the university, make sure that you point out that your university is unable to provide space for free speech, that Satanyahu’s Apartheid policies are now being forced upon the UK’s students.
    As long as they ensure that they are not in anybodies way they can gather in any park or other local amenity without much problem. Who knows, the local council might also been leaned upon.

    Tasering in Manchester, curtailing of free speech in Southhampton, some 80% of universities are now curtailing free speech of one sort or other and it works both ways, in some cases with the massive help of student unions who conflate uneducated fears into actions that can be misconstrued.

    At UEA, a UKIP speaker, invited for a political talk, was hounded out by a 1500 signature petition and some jumped up Labour careerist who just did not want him there. That is also curtailing free speech, but none of these young things operate on knowledge, otherwise they could have wiped the rostrum with that speaker, defeating him in debate, but their simple fears were amplified by a union which has its very own political agenda, a student union that has grown rich and powerful on the contributions of students using their influences to manipulate, sadly.

  • Villager

    What I would like to know is where is the support for the Palestinians, from their Arab brethren? Especially the ones with deep pockets, led by Saudi Arabia?

    And could this situation have really gone on for decades, if they were not a self-serving, corrupt, hypocritical, devious, power-hungry, sick and pathetic lot?

    Btw, since there’s much talk here about nuclear weapons, does Saudi Arabia already have Pakistani-made bombs, whether they are resident in Pakistan or in Saudi Arabia?

    “Saudi nuclear weapons ‘on order’ from Pakistan”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24823846

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Saudi_Arabia

  • Villager

    Nevermind
    1 Apr, 2015 – 5:32 pm

    “Those who make out its a Shia vs. Sunni conflict are just using religion like a condom.”

    Is it really as benign? I wish!

  • nevermind

    yes Villager, I do not see much differences between the policies of the Nazis and that of Zionism, its been running like a thread through Israel’s history, from Ben Gurion via Golda Meir to today’s unyielding menace Netantanyhua, it is an established fact that will not be expunged by kindness, but by sanctions and rejection of their inhumane treatment of those who also live there, who have rights and deeds to their land for decades and longer, and which has been taken away from them.

    For extermination of the unwanted, see the treatment within the Gaza’s shooting gallery, were anyone can be targeted and shot at, regardless of age, gender or activity, digging up spuds is dangerous.

  • Anon1

    “My message to Southhampton students is to declare a piece of ground your conference space and organise it outside the university, make sure that you point out that your university is unable to provide space for free speech, that Satanyahu’s Apartheid policies are now being forced upon the UK’s students.”

    You mean like this, Nevermind?

    https://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/ocs1.jpg?w=900

  • Mary

    The thugs have been in action today. Women, children. No one is safe.

    BREAKING NEWS: Palestinian leftist leader, parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar arrested by Israeli occupation forces

    In the early morning hours of Thursday, April 2, over 60 Israeli occupation soldiers raided the home of Palestinian parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar, a prominent leftist leader, feminist, and human rights advocate, arresting her, kicking down the door and holding her husband in a separate room.

    A leader in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Jarrar defeated an Israeli occupation attempt in September 2014 to expel her from Ramallah to Jericho for six months.

    Take action: Demand the immediate release of Khalida Jarrar

    http://samidoun.net/2015/04/breaking-news-palestinian-leader-parliamentarian-khalida-jarrar-arrested-by-israeli-occupation-forces/

  • Villager

    Craig
    2 Apr, 2015 – 9:45 am
    Fred,

    It is not quite that simple. Customary International Law is a kind of international equivalent of common law, and when something becomes well-established legal practice it can be and is enforced without necessarily adherence to a treaty. The UN Convention on the Law of the Sea for example is generally now regarded as having the status of customary international law, ie you can’t evade it just by not signing.
    ———–
    So how does international law work on this: There are some 206 sovereign states in the world and eight of them have nuclear weapons?

    We should lock up the Heads of Government of these eight countries over Christmas and tell them to come up with an accord by New Years day to rid of their weapons by 2020. Else they are locked up until they find an acceptable solution.

    When will our Type Zero Global Civilisation have a global voting system where ordinary people can determine on matters like nuclear weapons whether we want them at all or not? Surely the technology is there now.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Craig Murray
    02/03/2015 9:45 am

    “It is not quite that simple. Customary International Law is a kind of international equivalent of common law, and when something becomes well-established legal practice it can be and is enforced without necessarily adherence to a treaty. The UN Convention on the Law of the Sea for example is generally now regarded as having the status of customary international law, ie you can’t evade it just by not signing.”

    Yes: but it is hard to see how possession of nuclear weapons could be illegal under customary international law, because some states are able to possess them legally under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (1970). It would be absurd to argue that customary international law permits possession by some states and not others.

    Presumably such a proposition would need to be tested in court.

    I understand, however, that the obligation to pursue good faith negotiations towards nuclear disarmament is generally regarded as customary international law, and therefore binding on all nations including those which are not signatories to the Treaty.

    Kind regards,

    John

  • Villager

    Mary
    1 Apr, 2015 – 4:20 pm

    “Villager Cut the sarcasm. My name is Mary btw.”

    ———-
    Lighten up Mary! Even if enlightenment is a bridge too far……

    “J. Krishnamurti Last Talks at Saanen 1985 2nd Public Talk Wednesday, 10th July, 1985

    May we continue with what we were talking about the other day? I think it is important to realize that this is not a personality cult. The person called K is not important at all. What is important is what he is saying, not what he looks like, his personality, and all the rest of that nonsense. So please, if one may point out carefully and definitely, the person who is speaking on the platform is in no way important.

    We talked the other day about various forms of conflict, what is the cause of it, why throughout the history of mankind, man, including of course woman, has lived in conflict and never solved that problem at all. Throughout the ages, during this long period of evolution, of many, many millennia, we are still in conflict with each other – conflict between man and woman, between human beings, between a group of people, between nations, sexes, religions. I am sure one is aware of all this. The terrorism, the brutality, the appalling cruelty, all the hideous things that are taking place in the world – who is responsible for all this? As we said the other day, this is a serious gathering, not just spending a good morning under a tent or listening to somebody; this is a serious, active, co-operative, definite gathering.

    We are asking this morning, who is responsible for all this? Responsibility implies care, attention, not only to what is taking place outwardly in the world, but also inwardly in all of us: who is responsible for this? Are the politicians responsible? That is, let them do what they want to do because we have elected them in a so-called Democratic society. In the Totalitarian states they are not elected, they just come to power and dominate the whole. So who is responsible? The religions? The Islamic world? The Christian world? The Hindu world? Buddhist and so on? Or are we responsible, each one of us? Please do consider this. Is each one of us, living in this world, in this environment, not only in lovely Switzerland but also all over the world, is each one of us – you sitting there, and the speaker here – are we responsible for all this?

    I hope you are putting this question to yourself – are you responsible for creating this appalling, dangerous world, brutal and terrifying world?”

    http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-text.php?tid=1&chid=621&w=israel

    Some people are actually thinking, delving into these things than merely resting as cut-and-paste warriors. The point is in the Big Picture the actors may change, do change, but the human drama is the same old.

    In the meantime, Mary would you care to answer my question at 11.05am? As passionate as you are about the Palestinian question, you never seem to ask this. Why? As a Palestine expert, perhaps you already have the answers, in which case, please do share.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Apparently being enlightened includes vicious personal abuse of others.

  • Mary

    I should have said ‘cut and paste Krishnamurti bilge’. Tripped up there in your pathetic attempt to belittle my posts (mainly on Israel atrocities) didn’t you.

    Nor do I intend to engage in pointless conversations with a confirmed troll which fact I know to my cost.

  • Anon1

    “It was not a conference, it was an anti-Israel hate-fest.”

    Sounds about right.

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