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  • Tony M

    Where have all the cauliflowers gone? Plenty of outsize green leaves, but no heads.

    Yes, we have no cauliflowers, unless you count headless ones.

  • giyane


    “.. followed by a long rant.”

    Try this. A list of reasons why the US is only pretending to attack IS.

    1. disruption of the Muslim East to redraw the borders of the region based on ethnicity and sects;
    2. protection of the Zionist entity by preventing the emergence of strong rivals as well as undermining the resistance front;
    3. control of hydrocarbon resources of the region to deny them to rivals such as China; and
    4. support of local proxies to create conflict and keep the region in perpetual turmoil.

  • Truth

    Laura Kuennsberg and the entire sayanim cast including freedland,pollard,stern,lustig,robinson,sumner redstone,etc ALL gunning for Corbyn in the MSM ?!!? But 50k new labour members cant be wrong JC must be Jesus Christ, after all they want to crucify him too !

  • Clark

    RobG, 20 Sep 10:16 pm:

    “I think I’ve explained before why certain posters, who some call trolls, never give links on this board (it makes it much easier to discover their IP address, etc)”

    No you didn’t explain, you merely asserted, and I won’t believe unless you substantiate it. GCHQ have lots of IP addresses available anyway.

    I’m sick of this. We can’t fight lies with lies. I get called a troll these days because I’m not telling the “right” lies. Which “side one supports” has become more important than truth or accuracy.

    Or is degradation of the debate the whole point?

  • nevermind

    ‘People’s have I got news for you’! you are gonna get more into debt re nationalisation of railways and we will get to the bottom of the Westminster child abuse scandals.

    Or will it be ‘People’s have I got new news for you’ you subjects of slavery are going to get a fair and proportional election system….

  • Alcyone

    Clark, don’t take all this too seriously. Human beings are full of quirks.

    In this so-called information-age they believe that knowledge is power; therefore they are in hot pursuit of it.

    But, it is a fact that Man knows so little. He knows, let’s say at a guess no more than 5% of what we can know of the Multiverse. And, he spends all his time tinkering with that 5% like a little baby playing with a Rubik’s cube or his favourite little toy, Twisting it this way, twisting it the other way.

    In essence he lives, spends his time, analysing, dissecting the very limited 5%, if that, that he knows. So, we live in analysis paralysis.

    The last person most people know is his self. The most difficult person to get to know, understand, wholly, fully, deeply is Me.

    Have a good day and be rid of despondency! 😉

  • Alcyone

    Clark, further, what we need to be doing is living in awareness — constantly, totally, utterly, completely. What we are doing id the opposite. Complete ignorance of who we are. Yet believing that we ‘know’ so much. Well, all knowledge is limited.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    I think we have entered the endtimes….

    UN Watch executive director Hillel Neuer called Trad’s appointment “scandalous,” adding: “Saudi Arabia has arguably the worst record in the world when it comes to religious freedom and women’s rights, and continues to imprison the innocent blogger Raif Badawi.”

    “It’s bad enough that Saudi Arabia is a member of the council, but for the UN to go and name the regime as chair of a key panel only pours salt in the wounds for dissidents languishing in Saudi prisons,” he said.

    It must be said, loudly, that UN Watch is not itself exactly impartial – it might, for instance, venture some…any…criticism of Israel, but doesn’t:

    …but still…

  • Alcyone

    “Far better to use good netiquette, follow the convention, save space and stop trying to be so irritatingly cute and distinct.”

    Well, Glenn, I do get the feeling that Kind regards John tries very hard to endear himself to the general readership, blowing his kisses through the air/ether even when he has a comment not addressed to anyone in particular. It is a trick used by petty politicians. He’s covering up something, just not quite sure what. Perhaps a resounding shallowness, behind the intellect?

    I wonder what people think about the difference between intellect and intelligence?

    Alright, if you don’t want to explore that on a grey Monday morning, what is the difference between a Snowman and a Snowwoman?

  • Ba'al Zevul

    I’ve rarely read such a slippery post.
    Thank you. I have never seen a poster (ostensibly) committed to independence with such an obvious dislike of the organisation formed specifically to obtain it.

    You have made a somewhat ludicrous straw man of my position.
    You have a position? All you’ve done that I can see is complain that a public meeting on independence failed to meet with your approval because the majority of speakers were SNP. You have failed to comment on the proposal that any public meeting can invite whom it damn well pleases. If you have a position, and it does not involve public nudity, please share it.

    Indeed your apparent lack of understanding or knowledge of the broader (i.e. non-SNP) independence movement illustrates my point.

    It would be constructive on your part to improve my understanding by shedding more light that movement, and on what is so different about its objectives as to require separate representation. Go ahead.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    *more light on that movement*

    There is, incidentally, a block quote facility – read the small print. I think italics look prettier.

  • Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)

    All of us who wish Greece well will be pleased that the outcome of yesterday’s election is likely to provide the country with a period of stable govt. The SYRIZA-ANEL coalition will probably dispose of a greater majority in the Vouli than its predecessor and that majority will be more solid since SYRIZA has been “purged”, so to speak, of it more-radical-left-wing component (that component fought the election as a new party – Laiki Enotita – but failed to get any MPs as it failed to meet the 3% bar).

    The lessons which Podemos and a Mr Corbyn-led Labour Party would be wise to draw are two-fold:

    1/. Do not put forward a prospectus which is incapable of implementation in the cruel, real world

    and, following from that,

    2/. make the necessary adjustments to party policy before the elections and ensure that the entire party is behind that adjusted policy.


    BTW – SYRIZA won the election with 35,5% of the vote.

    Can anyone remind me of the percentage of the vote obtained by the Conservative Party at the 2014 UK election?

  • Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)


    “Alright, if you don’t want to explore that on a grey Monday morning, what is the difference between a Snowman and a Snowwoman?”

    That’s easy. A hungry rabbit ate the carrot.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Some first-class ideas for reforming the Lords:

    This in particular should appeal to our Athenian contingent: ostracism revisited:

    …there should be a People’s Blackball. Before each session of Parliament, we would all get the chance to eliminate one peer of our choice. (I have a little list, and they’ll none of them be missed.) Peers who attract over a certain number of blackballs, say 10,000, within a week would be candidates for elimination.

  • Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)

    “I mean, what do you people actually do, aside from subverting democracy and the rule of law, and protecting the totally vile and corrupt Establishment?

    Repeat: what do you people actually do, apart from wasting huge amounts of tax payer’s money and actively covering up for the most heinous criminals?”

    That’s a pretty silly comment, isn’t it, RobG?

    Jives and “Peter Beswick” have told us that MI5 employs 4000 officers (not 3000 as others have been claiming).

    Can anyone hazard a guess as to the size of MI5’s equivalents in other large West European countries such as France, Germany and Italy?

    Come to think of it, why do other European countries – in fact, most countries in the world – have organisations equivalent to MI5?

    If you can answer that one to my satisfaction, I will consider answering your question, which read as follows:

    “Can you actually explain why a totally unaccountable and shadowy organisation like MI5 exists in this day and age?”

  • Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)

    Ba’al’s idea of a blackball system for getting rid of various members of the House of Lords has its appeal.

    But I recall that that ludicrous petition to have a HoC debate on arresting the PM of the State of Israel on his visit to London attracted over 100.000 signatories.

    It would not seem fanciful to imagine, therefore, that 10.000 people willing to blackball various Jewish members of the HoL could be found rather easily.

    Just sayin’

  • Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)


    Close is not good enough – John Spenser-Davis is the man! 🙂

  • Alcyone

    God went to the Arabs and said, ‘I have Commandments for you that will make your lives better.’

    The Arabs asked, ‘What are Commandments?’
    And the Lord said, ‘They are rules for living.’

    ‘Can you give us an example?’

    ‘Thou shall not kill.’
    ‘Not kill? We’re not interested.’

    So He went to the French and said, ‘I have Commandments.’
    The French wanted an example, and the Lord said,
    ‘Thou shalt not covet your neighbours wife.’
    ‘We can’t have that’, the French said

    Then He went to the Mexicans and said,
    ‘I have Commandments.’
    The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said ‘Thou shall not steal.’

    ‘Not steal? We’re not interested.’

    Finally, He went to the Jews and said,

    ‘I have Commandments.’

    ‘Commandments?’ They said, ‘How much are they?’

    ‘They’re free.’

    ‘We’ll take 10.’

  • Alcyone

    Touche, Robert!

    Hope you’re feeling better and better??!!

    Please answer before the Monday-morning-deletions-police gets to it! Eager beavers!! 😉

  • Alcyone

    “Please answer before the Monday-morning-deletions-police gets to it! Eager beavers!! ;-)”

    I take that back and render an unqualified apology.

    Compliments and kind regards to the Moda who work thanklessly behind the scenes. I know its onerous!!

  • Robert Crawford


    The Power of Now! Makes me able to get rid of the suspense of waiting until the 13th. October for the results of last Monday’s CAT scan.

    Every day and every way I am getting better and better.

    Thanks for asking, it is appreciated very much.

  • Alcyone


    Close is not good enough”
    Habby, you hold to a high standard, even to yourself. I respect your honesty.

    If some of the faux-intellectuals could see that. But no, conditioning is a very heavy coat to wear.

    Btw, where are Technicolour and Dreolin? Their contributions are missed.

  • Alcyone

    Hi Robert, good to know. My sense is that you’l find the result is benign.

    Btw you know Eckhardt Tolle’s bestseller The Power of Now, is largely Krishnamurti regurgitated. I think some measure of credit is given in his declaration that K has been a major influence in his life.

    btw, have you seen this series?

    Stay well and good luck!

  • Alcyone

    Baal your comment was very-nearly perfectly timed with Craig’s new post. But don’t you wish you had Craig’s flair? Gentle dig.

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