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216 thoughts on “The Great Certainty

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  • lysias

    Unfortunately, responding to trolls is exactly what the trolls want. They wish to divert discussion, so responding to them is its own reward for them.

    Ignore them, and they will fail to divert discussion, and feel frustrated.

    There’s one situation when it makes sense to respond to trolls, and that’s when responding to them serves to attract attention to precisely what they do now want attention drawn to.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    RobG

    “@Habba:

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/un.html
    ________________________

    Yes, Rob, that’s what I said (“Over the last five or six decades there have been innumerably UN General Assembly Resolutions on Israel, Palestine, etc.

    It would be fair to say that few of them are kind to Israel.”).

    Pay attention and don’t post during or after drinking.

  • nevermind, mental health is a burning issue

    You want to stop paddling up shit creek with your arse in the air, habbakuk, instead of exposing your nuts to all and sundry, why not sit on it and use your oars.

    If you know what an oar is.

  • Mark Golding

    During Israel’s summer 2014 attack, codenamed “Operation Protective Edge,” deputy speaker of the Knesset Moshe Feiglin, a senior figure in Netanyahu’s Likud party, called for Israel to “concentrate” and “exterminate” Palestinians in Gaza.

    This appeared in Hebrew on his Facebook page in August 2014 and reproduced here in English. I cannot affirm the translation from Hebrew and variations appear online.

    With God’s Help

    Attention

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

    Mr. Prime Minister,

    We have just heard that Hamas has used the ceasefire to abduct an officer. It turns out that this operation is not about to be over any too soon.

    The failures of this operation were inherent to it from the outset, because:

    a) It has no proper and clear goal;
    b) there is no appropriate moral framework to support our soldiers.

    What is required now is that we internalize the fact that Oslo is finished, that this is our country – our country exclusively, including Gaza.

    There are no two states, and there are no two peoples. There is only one state for one people.

    Having internalized this, what is needed is a deep and thorough strategic review, in terms of the definition of the enemy, of the operational tasks, of the strategic goals, and of course, of appropriate necessary war ethics.

    (1) Defining the enemy:

    The strategic enemy is extremist Arab Islam in all its varieties, from Iran to Gaza, which seeks to annihilate Israel in its entirety. The immediate enemy is Hamas. (Not the tunnels, not the rockets, but Hamas.)

    (2) Defining the tasks

    Conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.

    (3) Defining the strategic goal:

    To turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.

    (4) Defining war ethics: “Woe to the evildoer, and woe to his neighbor”

    In light of these four points, Israel must do the following:

    a) The IDF [Israeli army] shall designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established, until relevant emigration destinations are determined.

    The supply of electricity and water to the formerly populated areas will be disconnected.

    b) The formerly populated areas will be shelled with maximum fire power. The entire civilian and military infrastructure of Hamas, its means of communication and of logistics, will be destroyed entirely, down to their foundations.

    c) The IDF will divide the Gaza Strip laterally and crosswise, significantly expand the corridors, occupy commanding positions, and exterminate nests of resistance, in the event that any should remain.

    d) Israel will start searching for emigration destinations and quotas for the refugees from Gaza. Those who wish to emigrate will be given a generous economic support package, and will arrive at the receiving countries with considerable economic capabilities.

    e) Those who insist on staying, if they can be proven to have no affiliation with Hamas, will be required to publicly sign a declaration of loyalty to Israel, and receive a blue ID card similar to that of the Arabs of East Jerusalem.

    f) When the fighting will end, Israeli law will be extended to cover the entire Gaza Strip, the people evicted from the Gush Katif will be invited to return to their settlements, and the city of Gaza and its suburbs will be rebuilt as true Israeli touristic and commercial cities.

    Mr. Prime Minister,

    This is the a fateful hour of decision in the history of the State of Israel.

    All metastases of our enemy, from Iran and Hizballah through ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, are rubbing their hands gleefully and preparing themselves for the next round.

    I am warning that any outcome that is less than what I defined here means encouraging the continued offensive against Israel. Only when Hizballah will understand how we have dealt with Hamas in the south, it will refrain from launching its 100,000 missiles from the north.

    I call on you to adopt the strategy proposed here.

    I have no doubt that the entire Israeli people will stand to your right with its overwhelming majority, like myself – if only you will adopt it.

    With high regards, respectfully,

    Moshe Feiglin

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Nebelmind

    “If you know what an oar is.”
    ________________

    I’m afraid I don’t.

    But I do know what a boar (you look like one) and a bore (you are one) are.

  • BrianFujisan

    Julian

    Great Idea.. Count me in for Tener…I Knwo the Very Techies/ Sqounkies 🙂 But Ben is Also Correct.

    Check out this Blatant Brandishing at the ill NYT..

    And the narcissism! Does the Times run op-eds that have their heads so deeply immured in a foreign country’s interests when that country is Myanmar or France or Turkey? Would any other foreign columnist feel so empowered to voice such undiplomatic views as these in an American newspaper? Rosner:

    Israel depends on an America that asserts itself abroad. Israel needs bipartisan support. It needs stable, predictable American foreign policy. It desires candidates who sing Israel’s praises as often and as loudly as they can. Mr. Trump, who looks poised to capture the Republican Party’s nomination, offers Israel none of those. Mr. Netanyahu has every reason to be concerned and disappointed by what the American political system has produced this election cycle…

    Israel’s government hoped a new president would restore a more traditional definition of friendship — one based on mutual trust and support.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/nyt-columnist-says-hillary-clinton-is-not-pro-israel-enough/

    ANOTHER Murdered ..Israeli soldiers shot 14 years old Palestinian girl 4 times in cold blood left her bleed to death.
    Sick bastards…

    Ten, And Six year olds Die in more of the Cowards Crimes

    The international community must hold Israel accountable for the deaths of 10-year-old Palestinian boy, Yassin Abu Khoussa, and his six-year-old sister Issra, who were both killed by fragments from a missile fired by an Israeli aircraft which hit near their home in Beit Lahiya, in northern Gaza.

    Not a day goes by that we don’t Palestin’s young being Executed…

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Golding (22h38)

    So you are saying that Mr Feiglin’s “call” proves that Israel was engaged in “genocide”?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    RobG

    Make sure you don’t fall into the well when you stumble outside later on for a much-needed and well-earned piss.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Pretty piss-poor responses so far to my magisterial post at 20h51 about Israel and “genocide”.

    Insults, silly diversions, a couple of ad hominems from Walter Mitty and an attempt to be clever by some one with a long moniker.

    Perhaps tomorrow’s day shift will do better?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    RobG

    “You lot are all going to be held to account and put on trial.

    Make no mistake about that.”
    __________________

    I know, and you’re going to shoot us personally.

    Remember, no drinking if you want to shoot straight.

    Good night! 🙂

  • RobG

    “my magisterial post at 20h51 about Israel and “genocide”.”

    One has to wonder who this psycho is?!

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    RobG

    “Habba, I might piss exterior,…”
    _________________

    I know you do.

    Just make sure you don’t let your guests see you, they might ask for a price reduction

  • blunt

    The first genocide convictions under international criminal law were rendered in 2012 by the ICTR. That Tribunal’s Proceedings were expected to produce authoritative precedents, and they did do. What’s more, they spawned the MICT, whose assistance to national jurisdictions could support domestic prosecutions if regime change in Israel were effected. Since Israel is the domino next the Saudi Arabian house of cards, that might turn out to be quite handy. Israel, like Apartheid South Africa, exists by the whim of the USA. And no one mistakes the president for the apex of the USA’s command structure. People would be surprised to know some of the options being bruited as ECI or Eyes Only.

  • BrianFujisan

    “The repression from Israel is the worst form of Apartheid. Nobody has the faintest idea of what is going on here, even the best informed people. Everything is in pieces, the land is destroyed and nothing else may be planted. All this smells like a boot camp, like Auschwitz. The israeli have turned into NAZI JEWS” ,

    Jose Saramago

  • MerkinScot

    Moral of the story?
    BDS scares them.
    To help stop the slow genocide support BDS.
    Craig was quite right to point out that both Clinton and Trump will speak atspea the AIPAC Conference.
    Neither will want to support the call for BDS.
    What does this tell us?
    It means that BDS is having an effect.
    If Holocaust Survivors are against the genocide who is Habby to tell them they are wrong.
    For him to tell me my grasp of English is wrong is racist in itself.
    That is why we ignore it.
    Genocide is genocide no matter how much the McShanes of this world tell us otherwise.
    Anti-semitism is wrong, telling the truth is not.

  • Ben-Mysogyny is my name

    And away we go with massive masochists who eschew the cautionary tales in favor of compulsive emotional release. Heh. My pit-bull can’t control herself either.

  • B;unt

    Right, but the missing link there was command responsibility, and you need that to decapitate the old regime. The tricky bit of cutting Israel loose would be to get the cream of the Mossad by the short hairs. Otherwise they’re apt to run to Turkey or somewhere and cause no end of mischief. Controlled demolition, that’s the ticket! Takes time and careful planning.

    Cheers!

  • RobG

    Perhaps Habba can tell us if GCHQ are committing treason by accepting payment5s from the NSA for information about British citizens?

  • John Goss

    John Spencer-Davis 16 Mar, 2016 – 6:52 pm

    Sorry, I missed this earlier before I went out. And I do agree that Blair is only apologising (well half-apologising) because there is some heavy foul-smelling waste of his about to hit an almighty fan in the form of Chilcot or some other disclosure source he has wind of that we can only surmise.

    He looks a troubled man. He has aged in the last few years. Who knows, he may have a conscience of sorts. Something is definitely eating away at him from the inside. It is not going to get better because of his arrogance.

  • bleb

    Mayeaux Wren @ 16 Mar, 2016 – 3:01 pm

    Yeah Craig, I’m with Hasbarakuk on this one. Why are you singling out Israel? …

    … And Hasbarakuk – brownie points for me yeah? You and me brother, we’ll stick up for that paragon of moral virtue, Israel. And may God rend limb from limb for three generations anyone who offers so much as the merest criticism of them. Amalek scum.

    I think your satire has gone over the heads of Republicofscotland @ 16 Mar, 2016 – 4:06 pm and Daniel @ 16 Mar, 2016 – 5:15 pm
    (and perhaps others?) – if so read it again!

    Thanks, Mayeaux Wren – that is probably best way to deal with “mischievous posters” (Craig’s words, not mine) apart from totally ignoring them (the best way IMO)

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Its hard to explain this feeling because I have never been a grandfather before and of course our home is suddenly full of family and friends ..he’s not a week old yet..and his auntie is cuddling him as if she is his mum ..and they just look all my family…is it ok if i take a photograph…

    and then I get seriously told off by my daughter in the kitchen – and my wife comes to defend me…as I am measuring out the ingredients – for tomorrow morning’s fresh bread now cooking…

    Tony,Wife,Son,Daughter,Mum&Grandson+3cats

    I have met her boyfriend and of course..if you love him and he loves you and the time is right..we have a big house and home..Making Babies is what our home was designed for…but don’t make it too obvious..

    “The B52’s – Love Shack”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leohcvmf8kM

    xx

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