The End of the Affair 921


At the High Court today the following joint statement was agreed.

On 29 April 2016, Jake Wallis Simons and Craig Murray appeared together on Sky News to debate anti-Semitism in the United Kingdom. Following that debate, Dr Wallis Simons issued libel proceedings against Mr Murray. Dr Wallis Simons and Mr Murray have now settled these proceedings.

By this statement, Mr Murray accepts that Dr Wallis Simons is not a liar, and Dr Wallis Simons accepts that Mr Murray is not an anti-Semite. They are both pleased to have resolved this dispute amicably.

I am genuinely happy with this outcome, which would never have been remotely possible without the incredible 5,000 plus people who donated to my defence fund and enabled me to be represented by a top legal team. It continues to be my view that the libel laws are appalling – had I lost the case I was very definitely looking at a cost of £350,000 plus.

I am also very grateful to the band of readers of this blog who arrived to support me, and in the end saw very little. When invited to open the case the other side immediately asked for an adjournment to discuss a settlement. The hour of delay which followed was occupied on our side almost entirely by my agonising over whether it was morally acceptable for me to agree this statement and use the defence fund to pay my lawyers, or whether those who donated did so in the expectation I would fight the case whatever.

There were a number of supporters at hand who had donated, many of whom were personally previously unknown to me, and the opinions I could canvass were unanimously that this was a good result and a good use of their money.

Having agreed to settle in this way, I have arrived at this following decision. If anybody who donated feels they have been unduly sold out, please let me know through the contact button above and your donation will be refunded to you.

When we started the defence fund, our “realistic” projection was a total of £12,000. That we eventually raised over £100,000 is astonishing. Equally astonishing, but in a bad way, is that my own legal team’s cost almost amounts to that – I will publish full accounts in due course. After all is settled and refunds issued to those who wish, if anything is left over I propose to split it between Andy Wightman’s defence fund and Neil Clark’s case against Oliver Kamm. Again please do let me know if you object. It’s actually your money not mine.

I did not realise how this has been weighing me down, until the threat has been lifted today. I have never claimed to be entirely without fault, and I would ask you to refrain from any comment here which detracts from the amicable spirit of the joint statement. It is a time for celebration not recrimination, and please confine any rudeness to remarks about me.


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  • SA

    For those of you who follow the Saudi/Lebanon intrigue her in insider view of what is happening in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon. The interview is in Arabic with subtitles. It appears that he has confiscated the rics of the billionaire princes to pay the US in collusion with Kushner to the benefit of the US.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=NNg5nLMG6FM

    Just also to remind those who have been up to date of how the US anti Syrian propaganda works, an Interview with Bashar Al Assad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLjC53emUM

  • Stu

    Gove is now purposefully playing coy over Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe’s activities in Iran. It’s incredible how few people are willing to consider that the reason no one from the UK government will directly say she was not working for the UK government in Iran is because she was actually working for the UK government in Iran.

    It looks like this is being used to hurt Boris ahead of any potential leadership contest. The fact none of the pro Brexit media have highlighted her employment record makes me think that a D notice has been issued. I believe we are being prepped for the removal of May followed by a second referendum. 2018 could be very interesting.

    • SA

      It seems that Boris for once, was telling the truth. No one is willing to concede that the Iranians are not so stupid as to arrest someone for no reason at all. Also why has it taken 18 months for anyone to notice?

      • SA

        Thanks Sharp Ears for feedback, much appreciated.I like this blog because there is a sense of community even though we don’t all agree all the time.

    • N_

      Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is a dual British-Iranian citizen. So why should Iran let Britain be involved in her case at all? If you’re in your own country you can’t expect help from the consulate of another country you happen to be a citizen of. If she got nicked for something in Britain, Britain wouldn’t allow Iran consular access.

      She was probably helping MI6. But even if she wasn’t, most of that outfit’s foreign agents will suspect that she was and they won’t like it one bit that she’s sitting in jail. Which hurts the dear old executive branch. The thing is that many in its senior echelon despise Johnson and view him as a security risk, as Martin Fletcher, a former foreign editor at the Times and therefore a man who’s not wet behind the ears where intelligence is concerned, has revealed. “The intelligence services are believed to be wary of sharing sensitive information with him” is what Fletcher wrote. You can’t put it much more clearly than that. Remember that the Foreign Secretary is supposed to be the minister responsible for MI6. The mystery is how on earth the guy got appointed in the first place, and then added to that we can ask why on earth he has stayed so long in the post. It surely can’t be long now until he’s out on his ear.

      As for MI6, they probably think he has got snow on his boots. Which he may well have.

      Which isn’t to say they’re keen on whatever links he’s got in the US. Speaking of dual citizenship, personally I think it was a disgrace to appoint a man as Foreign Secretary who was a US citizen at the time.

      • SA

        N
        You raise some very interesting questions. If MI6 is then one vetting information to the ‘democratically elected’ Foreign Secretary then we are not a true democracy (which may well be the case anyway).The comeback would not be for MI6 to sanction the information but for the Foreign Secretary to be sacked for endangering our security

        The other issue of dual citizenship is another thorny issue. I think that someone holding such a sensitive post should not have dual citizenship simply because at one stage there will be conflict of interest. It is of interest that Ratcliffe also has dual citizenship. Another unrelated current issue is the dual citizenship of Saad Al Hariri who is a dual citizen of Saudi Arabia and Lebanon and is said to be detained by the Saudis.

        Of course the line taken by the media and the BBC is that tts is all proof that the Iranian Government habitually infringes on its citizens’ civil rights, without rhyme or reason. similar to the now established narrative that Assad bombs and gases his own people for no rhyme or reason. Meanwhile the same press watches in the sidelines whilst Saudi Arabia starves 7 million Yemenis and there is no outcry by the usual ‘humanitarian’ interventionists.

        • N_

          @SA – “at one stage there will be conflict of interest”. Yes indeed: in every matter in which the British Foreign Secretary was dealing with the US government.

          It’s curious that when Boris Johnson renounced his US citizenship late last year his act wasn’t publicised at the time but got unearthed months later.

          The British media has for decades been kept on a very close leash whenever criticism of the despotic Saudi regime has been called for. Most MPs know to watch their step if they know which side their bread is buttered.

          Part of the backdrop to the matter of Johnson’s position, and more besides, is the looming and very frightening possibility of a conflict between Saudi and Iran. It could well be that whereas Iran may not be able to decide the fact of Johnson’s destiny (he’ll surely be out soon), they may be able to decide when to trigger his fall. All they’ve got to do is slap another five years on Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe’s sentence.

          A complicated game is being played. Two more angles:

          * Jeremy Corbyn by calling for Johnson to be sacked is probably trying to encourage Theresa May to keep him in office for the time being, so that May looks weaker and more ridiculous whatever is decided: should she leave an incompetent and possibly “nash” fool in his post, or should she do what the Labour leadership tells her? 🙂

          * In 1987 it was Iran that triggered the financial crash

          • fred

            If Boris Johnston was an American citizen it is because his mother registered him at the American Embassy when he was born.

            With all the things that damn him, like him being a liar, a cheat, a womaniser and dealing with very shady characters I would have thought that rank around the least.

          • Alex Westlake

            From Wikipedia – “Johnson was born on 19 June 1964 at a hospital on the Upper East Side of Manhattan in New York City, to British parents. His birth was registered with both the US authorities and the city’s British Consulate and he was granted both American and British citizenship.”

  • J

    The entire country including most conservatives have no confidence in any of them. They have no mandate, we have no confidence in them. They should think about the country they pretend to govern and call a general election now.

    • N_

      The scenario looks OK, J. They need a few more signatures and Theresa May is out. Nowadays it goes to an election straightaway; there’s not a no confidence vote. I doubt she’ll even stand, and if she does she’ll lose. Can we see the Tory scum uniting around Davis or Rees-Mogg? For about five minutes, maybe.

      As for the Catholic angle, I don’t think that’s an issue for the DUP, a party which has had long experience of cooperating day in day out with Sinn Fein.

      On which, it’s interesting to note that whil hardly anyone wants a hard border in Ireland, the rock hard wall separating Catholics from Protestants in Belfast doesn’t seem to attract much opposition either.

      • N_

        Got to wonder though whether one result of the Tory bastards being at each other’s throats will eventually – quite soon – be that the food runs out for the dirty natives known as “the rest of us”.

  • Jayne Venables

    Very good news Craig. Deeply reassured to know so much was raised to support you. We are both happy for you to do whatever you judge best with the money.

    All good wishes to you and your family.

  • Anon7

    Even if Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was involved in training journalists, which seems likely, it does not excuse her barbaric treatment by the fascist theocratic regime of Iran.

    • laguerre

      That would be training journalists to oppose the regime, much like the Americans funded “democracy”, i.e. opposition to the regime in Ukraine before the Maidan. That is not illegitimate in itself. It is more likely that the Iranians are more concerned about “supplementary” activities. That is what the charge of espionage means.

      • N_

        Interfering with a country’s domestic political affairs on behalf of a foreign power when you are not an accredited or registered representative of the foreign power is usually unlawful.

        “Training journalists” is as amusing as “plane-spotting”.

    • Republicofscotland

      Of course the menacing threat filled removal of the Chagossian people from their homes (many have died due to the upheaval ) to allow a US airbase, is anything but barbaric.

      Or prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay for 14 years and tortured throughout, but not charged is anything but barbaric.

      People in glass houses as they say.

  • Peter Beswick

    I don’t think teaching journalism is subversive unless it is a particular type of British journalism that basically makes things up (tells lies) to get people to believe things that are not true.

    Don’t forget that when the British State thought someone might actually be telling the truth in contradiction to the British lies those people were in danger of being kidnapped and tortured is various hell holes around the world and then shipped off out of reach of British or any other Court in the world, they were given orange suits and incarcerated with regular attendance of physical and mental torture activities.

    Guantanamo is still operating (and that’s one we know about)

    Do not go to another country that the US and UK want to destroy (or are in the process of). If you do, do not engage in any activity that might put you under suspicion of subversion.

    Any person stupid enough to put themselves in that situation and imprisoned should feel very lucky that they are not dealt by their captors in the same way that Britain and America treat theirs.

  • reel guid

    Scottish journalist Magnus Linklater has a comment in The Times headed “Russian Roubles Cost Salmond Political Respect”.

    Linklater says Eck “ends his right to be taken seriously”.

    So says Old Etonian Linklater. A Commander of the Order of the British Empire. Whose wife Veronica sits in the House of Lords as a Baroness and therefore an unelected legislator. Magnus was appointed editor in the 1980s of the London Daily News by that paper’s proprietor …….wait for it……Robert Maxwell.

    In 2006 the Linklaters lost some of their valuable art collection – including work by Scottish Colourist Samuel Peploe – in a fire at their townhouse in Edinburgh’s posh New Town.

    He’s a real man of the people eh folks?

    So if Alex Salmond and Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh produce a TV show that counters the near total domination the unionist media has in Scotland and deals with issues of interest to ordinary Scots such as Scotland’s increasing democratic deficit and the increasing reliance on foodbanks of Scots due to vicious Tory austerity, Magnus Linklater is going to dismiss it simply as the taking of roubles.

    He hasn’t even seen the show before he lambasts it.

    • Republicofscotland

      reel guid.

      The hypocrisy from people like him is breathtaking, to say the least.

      I’m surprised that Corbyn’s name hasn’t popped up over “extreme tv channels.”

      “Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn accepted up to £20,000 (about $27,000) for appearances on the Iranian state broadcast network Press TV — a channel that was banned in the UK for its part in filming the detention and torture of an Iranian journalist.”

      http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-paid-iran-press-tv-tortured-journalist-2016-6

      • reel guid

        From that article:

        A spokesman for Corbyn told Business Insider “we don’t comment on historical matters”.

        Oh really?

        Corbyn and his people are developing quite a line in hubris.

        • Republicofscotland

          ree guid.

          Another thing that irks me is the constant drone that Russia interfered in the US elections, and other elections around the world.

          They conveniently forget that David Cameron asked Obama to infer that independence for Scotland would be a bad thing, by pushing a note into the startled and unprepared POTUS’s hand at a press conference.

          Then you had David Cameron swan all over Europe asking EU foreign ministers, to interfere in the indyref, in the form of asking them to say Scotland would be better-off as part of the UK.

          Most had the good sense to tell Cameron to f*ck-off.

          • reel guid

            Absolutely Ros

            British governments meddling with democracy in other countries has a long history. Even as the empire was ending. In 1953 a moderate reforming government headed by Dr. Cheddi Jagan was democratically elected in British Guiana. Four months later Tory PM Winston Churchill had the Jagan administration deposed by the threat of British armed forces and a new government installed that was more to the taste of London and Washington.

          • reel guid

            And in the interests of balance I’ll point out that it was a Labour government that ruined things for the Chaggosians.

    • Rob Royston

      All he knows is that Salmond will be a free voice when talking about Scottish politics and that is not a situation that any Unionist understands.
      This morning, I turned the radio on while in the shower and it happened to be on the BBC Gaelic channel. They were discussing the mess in May’s government and the scenario of her calling an election. The presenter said it would probably lead to a Corbyn government. Not once did I hear the SNP being mentioned in the time I was in there.

    • Republicofscotland

      One course of action, is to threaten to shutdown the Iranian Consulate, and the Iranian embassy in London. In the hope it triggers the individuals liberty.

  • N_

    Briton jailed in Iran could be given diplomatic protection to free her, No 10.”

    Oh? If she could, then so could Julian Assange.

    Look at this garbage by Tatyana Eatwell, presumably an MI6 lawyer. She’s been a barrister for 10 years and is now a postgraduate student as I understand it.

    The document contains the statement “In international law the question whether Iran recognises her British nationality is irrelevant”. Really? What to? Dual citizens aren’t treated as foreigners when in they’re in one of the countries they’re a citizen of. Everyone knows that. Iran allows dual citizenship and is aware of her dual citizenship, but so what? It’s her British citizenship that is totally fucking irrelevant when she’s in Iran.

    MI6 are losing so much kudos among their agents and potential agents over this! Will anyone want to sign up with the dirty fuckers again?

    She should stop calling Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe a “British national”. Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe may well travel on a British passport to various countries, but when she’s in Iran she’s Iranian only and is not entitled to the rights of a foreign national in that country.

    • N_

      Maybe Britain threatened to strip Zaghari-Ratcliffe of her British citizenship if she didn’t work undercover for MI6? They’ve done precisely that before. There’s a moral there.

      Any posh Brits reading this: if you recruit “wog” citizens to go to their own countries to work undercover for you, you don’t have the right to expect them not to be convicted by “wog” courts as traitors? Do you understand? And you don’t half look pathetic when you play to the gallery of existing and potential agents, pretending that you care SO MUCH about Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe, because you’re SUCH a humanitarian and compassionate bunch of boys and girls.

  • N_

    Article 4 of the Hague Convention 1930 states that “A state may not afford diplomatic protection to one of its nationals against a State whose nationality such a person also possesses“.

    Much of this is about MI6 marketing.

    • Macky

      I meant maybe the Zaghari-Ratcliffe affair is being deliberately stirred-up as a diversion from the ever-present problem of the Lobby that Patel & Thornberry represent.

    • philw

      Most likely the unfortunate Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is being used to manipulate UK opinion in the build-up to the Saudi-Israeli war on Iran and Lebanon (and possibly Syria given the location of Priti’s ‘holidays’)

      • SA

        Yes I have the same view. The buildup of anti Iran rhetoric is reminiscent of the demonisation of various leaders and countries being worked out for toppling. It has to be subtle and come from different angles to soften up any resistance. Otherwise why did it take 18 months to notice?

      • Macky

        For sure, but they’re not mutually exclusive, in fact a convergence of convenience is too useful not to exploit.

  • Republicofscotland

    Northern Ireland’s government, or to be precise lack of it, leaves the country at a political impass as the DUP and Sinn Fèin, cant see eye to eye.

    The Stormont budget therefore will be drawn up by the British governments rep in NI, James Brokenshire.

    He insists that this intervention will not lead to direct rule from Westminster, don’t bet on it.

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/westminster-pass-northern-ireland-budget-so-civil-servants-dont-run-out-money’

    • N_

      The eyes of the business interests friendly with the DUP must be lighting up like pound signs at the thought of the leverage they might have over that budget.

  • N_

    Is there any truth to the rumour that George Blake has asked for a counsel’s opinion on whether he might successfully sue the British government for not allowing the Soviet government “consular access” to him when he was in Wormwood Scrubs?

    (joke)

  • nevermind

    O/T Warning…or what to do when you finished your business studies….
    This is one pair of investors to take note of and register, as they might pop up all over the country.
    meanwhile the white elephant has moved on elsewhere, leaving many hopes shattered and some out of pocket.
    It is increasingly damning that our public servants can’t see these type of investors and developers coming from a mile, its like a feeding frenzy on austerity ravaged, much smaller public budgets.

    http://www.edp24.co.uk/business/c-fake-scheme-at-raf-downham-market-site-not-going-ahead-aventa-1-5274403

    • nevermind

      Should keep these O/T items together.
      Another pursuit costs the life of a teenager, imho. If the pursuit would have been ended and no blue lights were behind the car, he would not have died by loosing control hitting a tree.

      ….comments on this story have been disabled…..

      http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/police-chase-did-not-cause-death-of-north-walsham-teenager-jury-decides-1-5277273

      “Pc Richard Jeffery, who was driving the police car, told the inquest the pursuit lasted around 90 seconds and covered one-and-a-half miles.

      He said he could not recall how close he was to the vehicle in front. Asked by the family’s lawyer, Sean Horstead, if he was three to four metres behind while travelling at 75mph in a 30mph zone, he replied: “At those speeds I would not have been that close to the vehicle in front.”

  • Republicofscotland

    Bob Geldof has handed back his Freedom of Dublin award, saying he does not want to be associated with the award while it is also held by Myanmar’s leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

    Strange then for one so principled, that he would retain his title as Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire, considering British actions in the Chagossian islands, and Britain’s part in selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, which has used them indiscriminately in Yemen.

  • Stu

    Nazanin’s husband reminds me of Brendan Cox. After his wife’s murder Cox publicly connected the public grief around her death to support for the White Helmets. In this case Ratcliffe seems happy for his wife’s situation to weaponized against Boris to ensure he isn’t able to challenge for the Tory leadership (again).

    She has been convicted of illegally working for the British government to undermine the Iranian State. Her husband cannot believe that the UK government can simultaneously deny she was working for them and secure her release. His actions are absurd.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Has anyone noticed, that almost no one cares (especially the CIA controlled Amnesty International) about the ongoing genocide in The Yemen, of which The UK Government, is not only complicit in, but very heavily responsible?

    A few people notice these things, and write about them.

    All the press do is write lies and propaganda, and even most of the supposed “Alternative media” hardly says a word.

    Its just another few million people about to die…

    Where is even the likes of Bob Geldoff and Bono?

    Have they said anything? Maybe they are in favour of it. Are their mega millions now invested in the companies supplying war machines?

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/yemen-having-lost-the-war-saudis-try-genocide-.html

    “The UN warns, rightly, that the blockade is causing a mass famine. This famine is not a side effect of the war – it is a weapon:
    To starve Yemeni civilians is an overt act by Riyadh, enraged by a humiliating failure to achieve a Saudi military victory.”

    My government disgusts me.

    The media is even worse, because they supply lies to the Government.

    Tony

      • Macky

        “In June the UN Secretary-General removed Saudi Arabia from a list of states and armed groups responsible for serious violations of children’s rights during conflict after the government threatened to cut its funding support for key UN programmes.”

        One co-opted organisation reporting on another co-opted organisation.

  • Sharp Ears

    What next for the Iraqi people? We have killed and injured millions of Iraqi men, women and children and the country is devastated. Now an earthquake is visited upon them causing more death and destruction. Similarly, the Iranian people are suffering it’s effects.

    At least the BBC have been to the area and James Reynolds reports from there.

    Iran-Iraq border earthquake is deadliest of 2017 – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41972338

    ‘A huge rescue effort is under way after a powerful earthquake struck Iran’s mountainous border with Iraq, killing more than 400 people and injuring more than 7,000. The quake is the deadliest in the world this year.

    The quake is the deadliest in the world this year.’

  • laguerre

    Craig, comment on the Brexit debate, if you have the time, please. We’re reaching a critical point. your point of view, as a public orator, would be useful.

  • Alastair Ewen

    Glad it has all been settled. Feel free to use my small donation to pay your legal costs. I’m happy for you.

    Alastair

  • Pete DeLorenzo

    So happy for you, Mr. Murray! And us, because I see your well being as inextricably linked to the well being of all of us on the planet who value truth and justice. So glad to hear a huge weight has been lifted from you. This is great news amidst a whirlwind of bewitching glamour and dense collective psychological fog I see everyday here in the US. Love and best to you and your loved ones in the UK!

  • SA

    Interesting piece by Patrick Wintour in the Guardian about the politics behind the Nazanin Ratcliffe crisis:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/14/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-prisoner-pawn-two-gigantic-diplomatic-chessboards

    Within this article we find this statement by Nazanin’s lawyers:

    “……but her lawyers argue since she has been a British citizen since in 2013, her nationality is predominantly British and her arrest is linked to alleged activities on behalf of Britain. Providing diplomatic protection “

    So it seems they do admit that the alleged link could be used to give her diplomatic protection, presumably thereby admitting the link.

  • nevermind

    ‘You will be able to vote on the substantive policy decisions and negotiations with Brussels, but you can’t change them by voting them out. Realise that, should you vote against these negotiated positions, you will be voting us out of the EU without a deal and we will leave anyway.’

    This is the best deal for the UK, chaos spread through the business and manufacturing community, now they going to start packing up as they can’t see much of a result appearing after month of stalling.

    That’s all that can be said about Brexit. Apart from mopping up the debris, what is in stall for British farmers.
    Fracking the heck out of the North Yorkshire/Lancashire and other rural farming communities….

  • mike

    A weak, mortally wounded Prime Minister throws the dogs a bone in an attempt to look strong and determined.

    Theresa May’s desperate deployment of the ‘Blame Russia’ meme proves that it’s nothing more than neocon strategizing. Reds Under the Bed redux has a number of applications: as distraction from the ongoing shitness of the economy, to cover one’s own deficiencies as a leader (maybe she’s been speaking to Killary) and to feed into the general sense of permanent crisis to which an ever-stronger surveillance state is the only solution.

    • Sharp Ears

      Yes indeed.

      It will be interesting to read Monbiot’s and Kamm’s reactions to the sad news. if any.

      We’re not genocide deniers. We just want to uncover the truth about Rwanda and Srebrenica
      Herman and Peterson
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/19/not-genocide-deniers-uncover-truth

      DANCING ON A MASS GRAVE – OLIVER KAMM OF THE TIMES SMEARS MEDIA LENS http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2009/585-dancing-on-a-mass-grave-oliver-kamm-of-the-times-smears-media-lens.html

      PS Keep going Neil Clark.

    • glenn_nl

      His book Manufacturing Consent is just as relevant today as when he and Chomsky wrote it in the 1980s. Another one of the greats gone.

      • John Spencer-Davis

        Here’s his own take on that smear. Chomsky, interview with James Peck, 1983.

        “The right to lie in the service of power is guarded with considerable vigor and passion. This becomes evident whenever anyone takes the trouble to demonstrate that charges against some official enemy are inaccurate or, sometimes, pure invention. The immediate reaction among the commissars is that the person is an apologist for the real crimes of official enemies. The case of Cambodia is a striking example. That the Khmer Rouge were guilty of gruesome atrocities was doubted by no one, apart from a few marginal Maoist sects. It is also true, and easily documented, that Western propaganda seized upon these crimes with great relish, exploiting them to provide a retrospective justification for Western atrocities, and since standards are nonexistent in such a noble cause, they also produced a record of fabrication and deceit that is quite remarkable. Demonstration of this fact, and fact it is, elicited enormous outrage, along with a stream of new and quite spectacular lies, as Edward Herman and I, among others, have documented. The point is that the right to lie in the service of the state was being challenged, and that is an unspeakable crime. Similarly, anyone who points out that some charge against Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam, or some other official enemy is dubious or false will immediately be labeled an apologist for real or alleged crimes, a useful technique to ensure that rational standards will not be imposed on the commissars and that there will be no impediment to their loyal service to power. The critic typically has little access to the media, and the personal consequences for the critic are sufficiently annoying to deter many from taking this course, particularly because some journals — the New Republic, for example — sink to the ultimate level of dishonesty and cowardice, regularly refusing to permit even the right of response to slanders they publish. Hence the sacred right to lie is likely to be preserved without too serious a threat. But matters might be different if unreliable sectors of the public were admitted into the arena of discussion and debate.”

        https://chomsky.info/reader02/

  • Republicofscotland

    Just like the Americans, the Spanish say they have absolutely no evidence whatsoever, that Russia was behind the Catalan vote, meanwhile as some have already said Theresa May is blaming Russia for everything and anything, to deflect, from the shambles that her government has become.

    Meanwhile back in Spain last week Jean-Claude Junker was given an award at the University of Salamanca, at which Rajoy attended.

    Junker called nationalism, and separatists a poison that hinders Europe.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-rejects-any-form-of-separatism/

    Puigdemont, wil get no help from Junker.

    However not all EU officials are blanking Puigdemont.

    http://www.catalannews.com/politics/item/puigdemont-to-meet-with-secretary-general-of-erc-in-brussels

    • reel guid

      Ros

      So if he doesn’t like small countries, which larger neighbour does the Luxemburger Junker want his small nation of 590 000 people and 998 square miles to be swallowed by? Germany, Netherlands, France or Belgium. You choose Jean-Claude.

        • reel guid

          Self-determination leading to independence almost always involves smaller countries gaining independence from larger polities. So of course Junker was talking about smaller nations, even if he didn’t use the phrase. And since he’s a national of a small independent country he is an utter hypocrite to deny to others the freedom his country enjoys.

          He also enjoys the company of Francoists.

      • Republicofscotland

        reel guid.

        Junker has made his position crystal clear on Catalonia, I very much hope it backfires on him come the December election.

        If the yes camp wins, Junker may have to change his stance, and accept a Catalonia as a independent nation.

        Of course Rajoy may not accept that outcome and trigger Article 155 again, that in itself would put Junker in a difficult position, support a democratically elected Catalonia, or turn a blind eye to Spain’s oppressive actions.

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