Some Dead Children Count More Than Others 530

The ever excellent Campaign Against the Arms Trade is back in the English High Court again today in its continuing attempts to ban arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It is against UK law to sell arms to a country which is likely to use them in breach of international humanitarian law, and that Saudi Arabia consistently and regularly uses British weapons to bomb schools, hospitals and civilians is indisputable.

Unfortunately the courts are an instrument of power and control for the 1%, not an impartial resort for justice, so I fear CAAT will not succeed despite the fact their case is undeniably correct.

Part of the British Government’s defence is the close military support it gives to Saudi Arabia, which it claims minimises civilian deaths (it plainly does no such thing). Thousands of children have died in the Yemeni war, most killed by the Saudis and their allies. These war crimes have been documented by the United Nations despite concerted UK and US diplomacy at the UN aimed at downplaying the Saudi crimes. Cluster bombs, white phosphorous and other illegal weapons have frequently been used.

Yemeni dead children very seldom make in into the mainstream media, whereas Syrian children do. But not all Syrian children – those children killed by the jihadist head-choppers the West and its Saudi allies have armed, funded and “advised” do not make the corporate and state media either. Only children allegedly – and the word needs repeating, allegedly – gassed by the Syrian armed forces are apparently worth our attention.

If we really attack because we care about the children, we would be attacking Saudi Arabia to halt its atrocities in Yemen. Instead we are allying with Saudi Arabia – the child killers, UK military support to whom is today being stressed in the High Court – to attack Syria.

Anybody who believes this is anything to do with “humanitarian intervention” is a complete fool.

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  • nevermind

    Humanitarian bombing is the worst phrase ever garbled, only a politician can come up with inhumane terms as such.
    Our arms/bits and pieces have caused much chaos in the ME, Mosul, Saana, Libya, Gaza, Bahrain, Syria.

    Thing is, what would the economy do without the arms trade to child killers?

    • Hatuey

      You are the only person I have seen using the phrase on here. Most people understand that precision bombing against a tyrants military assets might have positive or humanitarian consequences, though.

      • Pyotr Grozny

        Can you give examples us such precision bombing which have had positive consequences. Do Hiroshima and Nagasaki qualify?

        • TonyT16

          I seem to remember one of NATO’s precision bombs zapped the Chinese Embassy in error. Someone dialled in the wrong postcode.

      • nevermind

        yes, Hatuey, it is indeed a first here, but it was a term introduced by NATO and politicians such as Madeline Albright so I belief, when the humanitarian bombing of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo was carried out in 1999.

        There is no such thing as precision bombing from legitimate delivery platforms, as it implies perfection and effectiveness. We know of are ‘precision’ hell fire missiles delivered by unregulated drones, have killed scores of civilians, wedding parties, families in their houses. They have also killed our very own, US/Saudi paid terrorists like Jihadi John, in balance, but precision bombing does never mean precision killing.

        Many of the past tyrants, such as Saddam Hussain and Ghaddaffi, were our very own CIA assets, until they dissed the petro dollar, then they had to die.

        What you call positive humanitarian consequences, and far more imminent people than me made these points loud and clear before we shattered Iraq, can bee seen now all over Iraq and Libya, chaos and destruction, broken and shattered families.

        Do you want more of the same so we can all sun ourself in full spectrum dominance by some psycho regimes?
        What will precision bombing, with new smart missiles, of rubble do for the children that are already traumatised to the max.?
        What is needed is a cease fire and diplomacy, an evacuation of all the paid fighters and mercenaries from Idlib province to the US UK and Israel, as they will not have a future in a Syria they helped to destroy, then put them in front of courts and prosecute them for their war crimes.

        Bussed in terrorists have no say in the future of Syria and should be bussed out to their paymasters.

        And people like Cameron who four years ago sanctioned the exports of pre cursor chems to Syria should also be investigated.

        • Hatuey

          Correct me if I am wrong, but the missiles used now are more accurate than those of say WWII. As they teleologically develop, we can expect them to become even more accurate. In that sense we are talking about precision bombing. Not as precise as some ideal that exists in your mind, granted, but more precise than any that have been used before in the real world.

          It shouldn’t surprise me that amongst idealists we are always comparing things that really exists with notions of perfection that exist only in their minds. But it does.

          • Paul

            With all due forbearance, the accuracy is certainly improved, meaning the responsibility for the targeting grows, rather than being diluted. Making a pinpoint strike on a wedding may be a swell technical achievement, but the accuracy doesn’t make it more humane in any ethical sense of the word. Moreover, a perfect strike with a blast diameter of 1000 feet is not exempted from its damage to a school or hospital 900 feet away.

  • Paul Barbara

    Very good article by The Saker (as usual): ‘What price will mankind have to pay for the collapse of the Empire?’:

    ‘We are risking a nuclear Armageddon
    The first thing to realize is that this is not, repeat, not about Syria or chemical weapons, not in Salsbury, not in Douma. That kind of nonsense is just “mental prolefeed” for the mentally deficient, politically blinded or otherwise zombified ideological drones who, from the Maine, to the Gulf of Tonkin, to NATO’s Gladio bombing of the Bologna train-station, to the best and greatest of them all – 9/11 of course – will just believe anything “their” (as they believe) side tells them. The truth is that the AngloZionists are the prime proliferators of chemical weapons in history (and the prime murderers of Arabs and Muslims too!). So their crocodile tears are just that – crocodile tears, even if their propaganda machine says otherwise.

    Does anybody seriously believe that Trump, May, Macron or Netanyahu would be willing to risk an apocalyptic thermonuclear war which could kill several hundred million people in just a few hours because Assad has used chemical weapons on tens, hundreds or even thousands of innocent Syrian civilians (assuming, just for argument’s sake, that this accusation is founded)? Since when do the AngloZionist care about Arabs?! This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

    For those who would say that speaking of “several hundred million people” killed is hyperbole, I would recommend looking up past western plans to “solve the Russian problem” including:

    Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.
    Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines. This represented almost a half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. (…) The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.
    Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground……..’

    Plenty of back-up links.

    Hope the CAAT case at least helps expose our ‘Justice’ system. I went to a talk yesterday about Lula and Brazil, where Geoffrey Robertson Q.C. spoke, amongst others. The atrocious ‘Justice system’ in Brazil is far worse than ours, Lula has been set up in order to keep him from winning the coming election in Brazil.
    The US is unfortunately rolling back the Left-wing politics which resulted when the brutal military dictatorships collapsed in many Latin American countries, Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela and elsewhere, as well as vastly increased interference in Africa (AFRICOM).

  • Dave G

    If the Russians know that the Syrian government had nothing to do with whatever happened in Douma, then their logical position should be to defend themselves and their allies from any unjust attack by going after the platforms used to launch those attacks. Maybe the Russians mentioned this on the deconfliction hotline and that’s causing the Americans to think twice about how the situation might escalate.

    • bj

      You don’t need a platform to achieve at least what I have seen: women and children in a basement. Just trap them, barricade doors, and throw in a few canisters of whatever will do. Shades of Auschwitz’ ‘showers areas’.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ bj April 13, 2018 at 12:59
        You seem to be misunderstanding Dave G’s comment. He is talking about the platforms that may be used to launch missiles or bombs against the Syrian Government forces and infrastructure.

      • bj

        I misinterpreted what you were saying. My comment therefore missed your point. My apologies.

  • Rhys Jaggar

    I never realised Conservative Party officials in Brighton were referred to as children…..

    Although the IRA were most polite in only bombing the Grand Hotel the day AFTER Tory ministers were enjoying a cocaine- and little boys party above Mrs Thatcher’s suite. Just imagine three members of her Cabinet crashing through the ceiling holding on tight to an underage boy, eh?

    On such diplomatic niceties to governments prosper or fall….

    • frank

      Hi Rhys. I’m not trolling you. I would love to know if that were true. Anywhere you can send me for details?

        • Node

          What do you think.

          I think it’s quite plausible, and not improbable in the light of indications that such pedophile parties are frequent in Establishment circles. Thanks for asking.

          • SA

            “Plausible to some possibly but where’s the evidence?”

            Ah Kempe, therein is the rub. Sauce for the goose. Wars are being concocted on lesser hearsay.

  • Clydebuilt

    (Glasgow) Herald Online Poll

    95% opposed to UK involvement in a military strike on Syria

    4785 people took part

    Hidden away in an article on page 7 , 13/4/2018

      • Jon

        That’s called democracy. Think a large majority in England and America against joining conflict in Syria is behind Trump soft pedalling.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Can someone tell Theresa May, that its different this time. When British aircraft, based in Cyprus bombed Libya to hell, the Libyans couldn’t shoot back. Cyprus is only about 200 miles from Syria. If Syrian airfields, and aircraft are attacked, they are almost certain to shoot back, in a similar way to how they are being attacked. There are a lot of British people who live in Cyprus, and who also regularly go on holiday. Have you told them what you are planning to do, cos your actions are likely to get a lot of them killed.

    Don’t you care?

    One of them might be me. I really like Cyprus, and I have already got my flight booked, and I think you are completely mad.


    • PhatBastard

      How’s this for a plan: The US won’t attack Syria because without a UN mandate /trump might be impeached. However, seeing that after Brexit the UK (May) will need the US very very much, good ol’ Theresa sacrifices one of the Tornado’s on Cyprus and magically Donald is coming to our aid and everything is fine and dandy!

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  • Rhys Jaggar

    A list of UK/English crimes worthy of regime change over centuries:

    The Highland Clearances – an ethnic cleansing event by anyone’s money. Scots kicked out of their own country and forced to emigrate worldwide.
    The Colonisation of America and Australia – plenty of massacres of indiginous Indians and Aborigines. Just one of those things…..
    The 19th Century Opium Wars – Britain asserting its unique right to be a drug dealer…..the CIA learned well from them…
    M Device gassing of Bolsheviks – Churchills most animalistic moment. Still became PM in his dotage….
    The Amritsar Massacre 1919 – soldiers firing into a crowd of unarmed Indians leaving several hundred dead. Just a bit of police indiscipline….
    The Bombing of Dresden 1945 – makes Assad look like a right wussy. Blame an over-enthusiastic RAF officer…..
    Funding the Rwandan Patriotic Front – about as effective as the Bush family investing in nazi Germany. You cannot win em all…
    Bombing Iraq to smithereens and covering the country in depleted uranium – how the word animal cannot be applied to Tony Blair is quite incredible….
    Selling Saudi Arabia arms to commit genocide in Yemen – lovely, eh! I am not impressed by Putin selling arms in Riyadh either….

    Has Assad come up to the British standard yet??

    Not to mention the Gold Standard Americans….

    • Kempe

      ” Scots kicked out of their own country and forced to emigrate worldwide. ”

      By other Scots but still irrelevant to events n Yemen and Syria.

      • The OneEyedBuddha

        By other English public School educated Scots possibility

        Think Rhys was just showing past form, hence is a bit relevant isn’t it?

        • The OneEyedBuddha

          Sorry Typo, meant Racial (this is backed up by your anti SNP, Scots are making Vodka instead Whiskey post btw)

          Just to backup my last point, You mention Scottish involvement in the Opium Wars, very right was was mostly Scots involved and was completely despicable (do you think Chinese Companies selling “Legal Highs” here was revenge?)

          But do you think a bunch of Scots could have got large amounts of Chinese people addicted to Opium, without access to Indian/Burmese Poppy fields and without access to free/ trading ports like Hong Kong?

          As far as I am aware, Scotland didn’t have much of in the way of oversea’s exposure pre-union (apart from maybe the Darrien Scheme, and we were really successful with that…)

    • Andyoldlabour

      Rhys, I would like to add the 1953 coup in Iran to your list, which removed the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh, replacing him with Reza Shah Pahlavi. This was called “Operation Ajax” and was ordered by Winston Churchill. It was a joint operation between the CIA (Kermit Roosevelt) and MI6. It is also rumoured that the removal of the Shah into exile to the US in 1979, was organised by the US, and the subsequent arrival from exile in France to Tehran of Ayatollah Khomenei, was a joint operation between the US and France.
      The end result of all this, has been another of the US – “law of unintended consequences”.
      As we know from General Wesley Clarkes musings, Syria was anything but unintended.
      The only way that the US can get rid of Assad, is through false flag attacks, which the “onside” international community, much up like good sheep.

    • Black Joan

      “how the word animal cannot be applied to Tony Blair is quite incredible….” Please have more respect for animals.

    • Hatuey

      Actually, based on my reading of Tom Devine and understanding of the clearances, the impact was somewhat exaggerated. The southern clearances seem to have had a greater impact but get scant mention. In both cases, the records suggest that populations continued to rise steadily in line with European growth rates.

      It is interesting that you mention Australia and the opium trade. Scots were major contributors to bloodbaths in Australia and played leading parts in the opium trade. Major Macleod of Skye is but one example of a Scottish butcher who made a name for himself amongst the corpses of aboriginals.

      As for opium, Matheson and Jardline of Lewis did more than take part, they more or less created and managed the industry. I believe Matheson has a gravestone in Lewis that is decorated with poppies to this day.

      I could provide the examples.

      The global system we have now replaced the colonial system that you give emphasis to. You can’t attribute the abuses of one system to the system that replaced and superceded it. If you are going to do that, you might as well blame us for the holocaust too.

      Congratulations on acknowledging Russia’s key part in the international arms trade.

      • The OneEyedBuddha

        I’m I picking up anti-Scottish sentiment in your comments?

        Have we got issues With particular national, cultural and relacial groups Hatuey?

        P.s. most of the bad stuff Scots done in the colonial era was done after union, doesn’t make it right but might have had something to do with enabling it?

        • The OneEyedBuddha

          Sorry Typo, meant Racial (this is backed up by your anti SNP, Scots are making Vodka instead Whiskey post btw)

          Just to backup my last point, You mention Scottish involvement in the Opium Wars, very right was was mostly Scots involved and was completely despicable (do you think Chinese Companies selling “Legal Highs” here was revenge?)

          But do you think a bunch of Scots could have got large amounts of Chinese people addicted to Opium, without access to Indian/Burmese Poppy fields and without access to free/ trading ports like Hong Kong?

          As far as I am aware, Scotland didn’t have much of in the way of oversea’s exposure pre-union (apart from maybe the Darrien Scheme, and we were really successful with that…)

    • Courtenay Barnett

      Come on Rhys – get it right..

      The Atlantic African Slave Trade of some 300 years which provided Britain with the capital from free labour which provide capital to propel the Industrial Revolution and grow cities across the UK and enrich families that still benefit today ( inclusive of former PM David Cameron’s family). It was only in 2015 that the slave payment debt to the slave owners from the 1830s was finally paid off as officially acknowledged by Her Majesty’s Government.

      Think about it.

      A really huge historical fact that like many in Britain – just simply – incredibly – is deemed of no contemporary and/or historical significance.

      Send via email from the Caribbean.

  • Mochyn69

    Sergei Lavrov on RT: Solid evidence Syria’s Douma ‘chemical attack’ staged.

    For the sake of all the children everywhere, come together NOW and bring about a ceasefire.


    • Murray Johnson

      It’ll be interesting to see which state they hold responsible for assisting the rebels in carrying out this exercise. I don’t think Lavrov has named it yet.

      • Tatyana

        @ Murray Johnson
        My guess is France. Macron was in the first place to bomb Syria, Britain shared its findings on Skripal’s case with France first.
        As soon as I’ve seen Lavrov’s statement, there came news Macron has called Putin to discuss help with OPCW inspectors in Douma.

    • MJ

      But the Syrians are finally about to liberate E Ghouta. Why should they stop now? It would only give Al Nusra and the rest time to regroup. Finish the job and give the country something to celebrate.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I would also like to point out to Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Gavin Williamson, that the three of you have succeeded in excelling yourselves, in seriously annoying the Russians, even more than The Americans. I honestly didn’t think this was possible. Congratulations. In case you haven’t noticed, the Russians were invited into Syria, by the democraticaly elected Syrian Government, to assist Syria is defending their country from aggressive attack.

    Your actions have made British military assets number 1 prime targets as far as The Russians are concerned. Do you honestly think The Americans are going to be concerned about this? They are most likely to laugh, rather than immediately respond with nuclear missiles.

    You are all completely bonkers.

    If anything The Americans are setting you up, as test, to see how the Russians react to being attacked.


    • Rod

      I don’t think there is anything in what you write that I could disagree with. I believe Mrs May and President Macron could be being played for fools by Mr Trump. It’s not beyond possibility that President Trump sees the British exit from the European Union as the American back door into Europe about to be firmly closed. It was President Macron who had the first conversation regarding this potential new foreign adventure in Syria – then he spoke to Mrs May. President Trump might now have in mind using France as his future tradesman’s entrance into European markets. President Macron should be careful of what he wishes for if he thinks President Trump is likely to hold to any mutual agreement or ‘special relationship’ between them.

  • lysias

    Lavrov is reported on RT as saying that he has proof that the Intel service of a country prominent in the Russophobia campaign staged the gas attack. Very likely he means the UK.

    • N_

      Sounds like it. One country has been far more prominent than the others in said campaign.

      I was looking at Mark Sedwill, Britain’s “national security adviser”. In his letter to the deranged NATO secretary general, Steinerite nutcase Jens Stoltenberg, he says Russia must have used nerve gas in Salisbury because they intercepted the Skripals’ emails and had tested using doorknobs.

      Sedwill is involved with Team Rubicon and the HALO Trust. What a right baby $aver he sounds. Do these organisations connect with the White Helmets?

    • Tony_0pmoc


      There are unconfirmed rumours, across various parts of the net, that significant numbers of such personnel including from the UK have been killed, and others captured. Thankfully, neither the Russians, nor Syrians, have publically put them on parade, as they are not so crass, and this would only exacerbate tensions. Basically, both The Russians and The Syrians, want to live in peace, and eliminate terrorism. Everyone who has done any research in the matter knows who is arming and funding the terrorists. Incredibly enough, it includes you and me, by our British taxes. I never agreed to this. Did anyone?

  • Mochyn69

    I have to say the speeches of Lavrov and Russian UK Ambassador on RT today making much more sense than the histrionics of the Mayhem clique aided and abetted by the abysmal BBC.

    I used to believe those guys and thought they were beacons of honesty and balanced reporting, not any more.

    • David Bailey

      My feeling exactly! When I was a young man, people on the other side of the ‘iron curtain’ used to listen to the BBC to net unbiased news. Now I only glance at the BBC, before going to the RT website to get the most reliable information.

  • Abulhaq

    The fiefdom of ‘Saudi Arabia’ is very vulnerable to subversion. It is united under the draconian authority of the US/UK protected house of al Sa3ud and the military it controls. There is disaffection with the puritanical and hypocritical Wahhâbi theocracy. The war in Yemen is a replay of more ancient feuds. The Hejaz has a different culture from that of the ruling élite. There is a sizeable Shi’a community too.
    Without the patronage of the ‘Anglosaxons’ the place would fall apart.
    Bahrain Sunni ruler but majority Shi’a, also gets a very easy ride when the citizens revolt against the King and his Sa3udi friends

  • lysias

    The Slog’s new Syria Update says that the absence of impurities in the sample must mean that it was produced in a lab — not a factory — very shortly before it was given to the OPCW, that the report’s insistence on this point is a signal to the cognoscenti that the UK is lying.

      • Jack

        Oh yes , if only it was a labour Government as they would never rush us to war on a dodgy dossier.

    • Salford Lad

      It is ‘highly likely’ that the samples presented to the OPCW were of’ a ‘type developed’ by Porton Down and came clean off the shelve,uncontaminated by the elements,
      It is all irrelevant now,we are going to War as ordered,
      Evidence who needs any stinking evidence.’ The Masters have spoken, Treeza and Boris do as ordered.

      • Tony_0pmoc

        Salford Lad,

        I really appreciate what you write, but there is one thing I can’t figure out, which maybe you know. Why do the likes of Treeza and Boris do as ordered? What exactly is the Masters’ power based on? Is it religion? I’ve had that too, and despite the fact that everyone including al my family told me I was going to hell (and I believed them) – I thought fck it. I am not going to church any more, and resigned. Then a few years later, I had a complete psycho of a boss. He was telling me to do all this complete load of total shite, particularly when he got manic on a Friday afternoon, and I simply agreed with him, but carried on as normal. I ignored completely ridiculous commands. It was him, that ended in the not house not me, In fact they gave me his bloody job, which is something I really did not want.

        Why do so many people do, what idiots in authority tell them to do?

        I didn’t and I am still here, and some of it was in Salford.


  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Has anyone gone to the trouble of reading the US government’s March 2003 Nuclear Policy Review before Saddam’s ouster, and what it planned to do with China, Russia, Iran, Syria etc. afterwards?

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Read Chalmers Johnson’s The Sorrows of Empire, especially after Saddam’s ouster, particularly p. 290ff.

        And check the extensive backnotes.

        • Tony_0pmoc

          Trowbridge H. Ford

          I bought his book, he also had a blog. I had serious issues with a lot of it, cos much of it was based on his theory of blowback – which I knew was total bollocks, so I challenged him on his blog. To his credit, he didn’t delete what I wrote, and even responded to it.

          I still thought much of what he wrote was total bollocks. This was obviously before 2010. I didn’t know he had died.

          I also like a lot of what you write. Some of it is true.

          Wishing you a Happy Birthday 90th Birthday.

          I think you are a Gentleman too.


  • quasi_verbatim

    “Watson, not only did the dog not bark in the night, but it rained on Salisbury plain”.

    Vil-baby, beloved creator of Novichok and resident in the USA for a quarter-century, now claims that his CW brainfart rapidlly degrades, is unstable and is ineffacacious in damp conditions.

    Which explains why wet wipes are the only known antidote.

  • Hagar

    If you had been blackening my name, and my country’s name for years, and in every corner of the world, eventually I would hand your arse to you with that thing you love, “compound interest”.

    The English and American governments believe that Putin/Russia will not do anything, because they have not done anything in the past.

    Putin gave them a warning when he showed them some of what he has. They knew nothing about Hypersonic weapons that are ready to go. And yet they fool the public they know everything, when they don’t

    Shock and awe on the cards.

    I can hear a lot people saying “Holy Shit”.

  • Screaminkid

    This war on Syria 4 alleged chemical attacks is nothing 2 do with UK gov Humanitarian concerns. It has everything 2 do with selling arms and gaining new cheap sources of oil?
    Saudi has been comitting Genocide of Yemeni children&citizens by bombing& starving them to death4 years, yet UK gov is silent. As they are when their cruel policies push more British children into permanent poverty& deny their families a fair wage! Tories don’t care about anything but money& power!

    • giyane

      Most Labour MPs rushed to believe the Tory lies about Salisbury. Expect more false flags in the coming weeks. Watch out for Govichocs, state handouts to landowners for leaving the land as it is. It’s hard to get purple with incandescent rage after you know they are liars. I can’t think of any reason why the UK should support the Saudis against Syria or against Yemen, except for the need to service the UK national debt. The absence of progress for the Saudis in Syria led head-chopper in chief Abdullah bin Salamander to come to London to have a quiet chat in May’s ear.

  • N_

    From RT:

    Asked about the chances of a doomsday scenario in which Russian and American blood will be spilled as result of the US-led military action, Zakharova said that Moscow and Washington have all the means to prevent such a showdown and its potentially disastrous consequences.

    ‘We’re living in 2018 and we have all sort of communication, including Twitter, and we can resolve all the questions like that – just picking up the phone, just sending messages – and I think this is the case which should be resolved through the communication but not through force,’ the Foreign Ministry’s spokesperson said.” (emphasis added)

    Yeah – send a tweet.

    Russia does not seek praise, only genuine cooperation in the fight against terrorism, Zakharova said, commenting on US President Donald Trump’s recent tweet. The US president lamented that the US-led anti-terrorist campaign in Syria was underappreciated. ‘Where is our “Thank you America?”‘ he wrote.

    This is ludicrous pap. What it shows is that at the time of writing Russia isn’t bothering much with propaganda to the western market. If they release intelligence on a mercenary MI6 charity Britty-front role in the staging of the Douma event, the assessment should change – but that hasn’t happened yet.

    Everything’s military now.

  • British Cyclist

    Just happened to come across this quote from the British Foreign Office regarding the largest and most devastating chemical weapons attack which ever took place:

    “We believe it better to maintain a dialogue with others if we want to influence their actions. Punitive measures such as unilateral sanctions would not be effective in changing Iraq’s behaviour over chemical weapons, and would damage British interests to no avail.”

    How times change!

  • Republicofscotland

    The fogotten war is the happening in Yemen, very little exposure on the atrocities occuring there are aired on the British media, radio or press. Exactly because our blood thirsty ally Saudi Arabia is the main protagonist.

    Compare that to the wall to wall coverage of Assad and Syria, and you’d begin to wonder if there was any conflict or suffering at all in Yemen.

    The Saudi regime and it is a regime, not a democracy, is allowed to carry on regardless with its inhumane practices. British politicians only need to pay lip service on humanitarian rights, however the Saudi’s do not pay heed as they know this.

    As long as the Saudi’s are buying arms from Britain, or financing its ventures then the focus will remain on other less cooperative regimes around the globe, and British politicians will continue to pay lip service on human rights in the country, or its blood thirsty foreign policy in Yemen, and Yemeni children will continue to die.

  • Loony

    Thanks to the fearless and inquisitive British press we are able to learn that Russia has undertaken extensive tests in how to smear deadly nerve agents onto door handles.

    If you don’t leave the Russians alone then pretty soon all your door handles will be vaporized. Maybe vaporizing 100% of British door handles is a price worth paying to frustrate the Russian door handle plot. It certainly reveals Madeleine Albright to be a mere infant in this game. She was only willing to sacrifice 500,000 Iraqi children – the British by contrast have bet their national stock of door knobs that the Russian are bluffing.

    • Yonatan

      The Skripal’s second cat also escaped, and is presumably walking the streets of Salisbury. It may have used the door handle to make its escape. It looks like the only solution is to nuke Salisbury from orbit.

    • Republicofscotland

      Yes the all incriminating door handle, one where Sergei touches it on leaving, then just for good measure Yulia goes back and touches it also. I don’t know about you but on leaving the house only one person touches the handle and that’s to lock the door.

      But one wonders how the pets managed to touch it as well? Pity they’re dead now, Billy Smarts circus would’ve paid a pretty penny for such talented creatures.

      Still the Skripal’s still managed to traipse through town and stop off for a slap up meal, before they mysteriously fell ill. Now they’ve survived one of the world’s deadliest nerve agents, look out for both Skripal’s being beatified by Pope Francis, under miracles in Sailsbury.

      • Tatyana

        I think there could be a quadrocopter with remote control used, it just poured chemical on Skripals from some height. I can explain why the police officer was affected. It happened in the open place, no suspicions towards a person playing with his quadrocopter. You can even do the thing from your flat, if quadrocopter is equipped with a camera.

        • Tony_0pmoc


          Don’t knock quadcopters, I started playing with them several years ago when they were just electronic bits from China and the USA. Eventually with the help of my lad (who did a bit of the coding – we got them to work) My only real interest in doing it, was for aerial photography, or to tell the truth, the challenge to make the thing work (still a kid at heart). Now you can buy them off the shelf, and they are completely amazing, with regards to aerial photography, but I would have thought almost totally useless for military attack, or delivering parcels.

          Military drones, bear little resemblance to quadcopters, and I think their existence completely outrageous, and the people who pilot them from an office thousands of miles away from their victims, completely evil.

          They think they are playing a computer game, but their victims (mostly women and children and totally innocent men are completely real)

          I am glad I am old. The world now disgusts me.


  • Yonatan

    Re: the CW false flag in Douma, Lavrov, a man renowned for not making stuff up, has said:

    “We have irrefutable evidence that it was another setting and to this production had a hand in the security services of one state, which is now eager to be at the forefront of Russophobic campaign,”

    The Syrian Arab army captured 11 British SAS troops from two villages (in the Douma area. That is more or less two squads of 6, consistent with the unit size dispatched by Cameron ‘to fight ISIS’ (yeah right). They are being held separately in secure locations to minimise their loss due to coalition ‘(not so) friendly fire’. These indivduals along with others from the US, Saudi Arabia and supposedly Israel, were tasked with controlling the targetting of the terrorist mortar and rocket attacks against civilian targets in Damascus. The UK asked Russia to release them, but Russia responded they were under the jurisdiction of Syria.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Why do MSM outlets in the West never show us what life is like now in areas of Syria re-captured by the Syrian state?

    Rhetorical question.

    • bj

      They don’t care to see these people’s lives. They take great care to see them dead.
      In the end, they are all collateral to the hegemonic power- and money hungry psychopaths.

    • bj

      Why is it, in our times, that those showing the greatest restraint to go to war, find themselves arguing with scripted nitwits?

      • Republicofscotland

        Because they don’t want to listen to reason or logic, the red veil of war drops down over there eyes, and cannot be raised until there swords are red with blood.

        It’s no coincidence that the US has a huge military and a very large military budget to match. Having all those sharp shiny toys and nowhere to show them off really pisses off the Whitehouse.

      • Tony_0pmoc


        You may have a point, but only if you believe, the theory, that all the leaders of all the major countries including China and Russia, are all already working for a central controlled World Government.

        I find that theory, incredibly hard to believe, and even if it were true, it totally contradicts all documented history of human relationships, where there have always been disagreements at every level. If it is true, that all major governments, are under a central control, it still leaves this central control, extremely vulnerable to significant change, particularly if that central control is based on total lies, corruption, brute force and blackmail.

        My experience of the human race, is that most people are honest and nice.

        They may not react, until the idiots in control turn their lives into a state of hell.

        Then they will fight back, with everything they have got, in order to survive.

        The world was at war from just before I was born. Since then most of it has been at peace, and I have travelled much of it, mostly without any trouble. I only got mugged once, and even the they didn’t kill me, and the locals defended me.


  • Soothmoother

    Thankyou Craig Murray. Please keep highlighting their hypocricy, brutality, dishonesty, inhumanity etc.

  • Republicofscotland

    Jeez listening to Nikki Haley prattle on about chemical weapons in WWI at the UN. This from an ambassador, whose country dropped not one but two nuclear bombs on Japan. Of course Haley won’t dare mention that her country’s favourite minion Britain also used chemical weapons.

    Haley embarrasingly adding that Russia has veoted votes on Syria, when the US has done so countless times on Israel. Haley then went on to say the US knows that Assad has used chemical weapons 50 times, a desperate remark from a desperate US ambassador.

    • Republicofscotland

      She’s a through and through career gal, and US equivalent of oor very own Fluffy Mundell.

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