Overpaid Yet Happily Forgotten

by craig on April 23, 2014 2:37 pm in Uncategorized

The greatest boost ever received by Islamic fundamentalism was the invasion of Iraq.  Closely followed by extraordinary rendition, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and drones, and Israeli bombings of Gaza.  All of those things lead some Muslims to believe a violent response by terrorism is required to defend themselves.  So for Tony Blair, who has promoted huge hatred and caused unnumbered deaths through a career of deceit and self-enrichment, to warn about the dangers of Islamic terrorism is something nobody but a few Guardian and Murdoch acolytes wish to hear.

Blair of course has many tens of millions stuffed into his capacious back-pocket by oligarchs from the ex-Soviet space, so it is unsurprising to hear him call for understanding between Russia and the West.  It is even more to form that this understanding should be based on joint hatred of Muslims.

There is an alarming failure by many in the UK to understand that Russia is an Empire.  Russia’s Asian possessions were taken  by invasion from their indigenous and Muslim populations in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, at precisely the same time Britain was taking its own colonies.  The Russian conquests were no less colonial from the accident of geography that they were contiguous.  Dagestan and Chechnya were only conquered in the 1830’s.  Most of Tartarstan later.  The “Islamic fundamentalist threat” Russia faces jointly with the UK, is actually the struggle of colonized peoples for their freedom.

Blair includes China, which likewise is the colonial occupier of the Uighurs and other suppressed Muslim populations.  To conflate the struggle for freedom from colonial occupation of these people with an over-reaching monster of “Islamic terrorism” is part of Blair’s trick.  His examples in Africa are again born of despair from the consequences of centuries of colonial and now neo-liberal exploitation.  I find his pronouncements on Boko Haram ironic, given that Blair’s single biggest legacy is to move the United Kingdom close to Nigerian standards of equality of wealth distribution.

The extraordinary thing is that Blair is somebody so hate-filled he wants to see yet more hatred, killing and violence.  It is worrying that the establishment media are so happy to promote his view without providing any balancing opinion. I comfort myself that the real motive of this silly speech was that, other than his media acolytes, absolutely nobody cares what he is saying.  It wasn’t so much a speech as a public display of ADD.

 

 

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  1. Ba'al Zevul (Flames 'R' Us)

    23 Apr, 2014 - 2:56 pm

    Blair of course has many tens of millions stuffed into his capacious back-pocket by oligarchs from the ex-Soviet space, so it is unsurprising to hear him call for understanding between Russia and the West. It is even more to form that this understanding should be based on joint hatred of Muslims.

    Cogent. Add, perhaps, that it is good to see him personally destroying any possibility of his ever again being seen – by anyone other than Mad Mel – as an even-handed ME broker. Add a question: is there a connection between Blair’s latest episode of gungho and the April 14th resignation of his old Saudi chum Prince Bandar bin Sultan from the security ministry? Has whatever advantage Blair enjoyed from his acquaintanceship with a regime closely associated with jihadis now evaporated? And add helpless, braying laughter at this visibly crazed megalomaniac presuming to run anything called a Faith Foundation.

    Thanks for the opportunity. Great post.

  2. But how far back do you go? Very, very few current countries have maintained exactly their current composition for more than a couple of hundred years. Should the Viking bits of Britain be looking to split from the Jutes, and the Angles and the Saxons?

    At some point you have to stop looking backwards and start looking forwards!

    And as much interbreeding as possible will get us to this point expeditiously.

  3. Is Blair holding up Chilcot to protect himself and Straw from complicity in torture? It would be in the Labour Party’s best interests to get this dealt with before the next election.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604801/Tony-Blair-blame-publication-Sir-John-Chilcots-report-Iraq-war-delayed-says-Nick-Clegg.html

  4. Blair is one sick evil greedy bastard.

    Him,his New Labour criminal cabal and his NeoCon buddies in blood should be in court facing war crime charges.

    Not to mention their part in extrordinary rendition,torture,gang-stalking/Mk-Ultra tactics on perfectly innocent people here and abroad.

    The Truth is coming out and these bastards will deserve everything they get.

    All this deluded evil charlatan has left is vague sloganeering and empty self-serving faux God squad rhetoric that nobody with a shred of intelligence or humanity takes seriously.

  5. Ba'al Zevul (Flames 'R' Us)

    23 Apr, 2014 - 3:22 pm

    And add this:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.586925

    (Paywall, sorry, but the first par says it all)

    Also, from his speech: ““the Muslim Brotherhood government was not simply a bad government. It was systematically taking over the traditions and institutions of the country.”

    You mean like New Libor did, Tony?

  6. Ba'al Zevul (Flames 'R' Us)

    23 Apr, 2014 - 3:37 pm

    Can’t help wondering what the Pope will say to Tony when they next meet; here’s what respected Catholic theologian Fr. Alexander Lucie-Smith reckons, anyway:

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2014/04/23/tony-blairs-alliance-with-china-and-russia-is-as-immoral-as-it-is-naive/

    My own view is that in taking sides against Islamic extremism, Britain and her friends should do everything in their power to shun Saudi Arabia, the number one source of extremism in the world, and do everything in their power to stop the exportation of Wahhabi ideology from the desert kingdom to Europe. But as a realist, I see absolutely no hope of anything like this happening soon. Britain and her friends will keep on licking the boots of the Saudis and selling them weapons, weapons which the Saudis and their friends use to kill people we should be supporting, such as democracy activists in Bahrain and Christians in Syria.

    Saudi Arabia again. Hmmm…

  7. “Russia’s Asian possessions were taken by invasion from their indigenous and Muslim populations”
    Hardly. Russia’s Asian possessions were inhabited mainly by animist tribes until Russia invaded them. The areas inhabited by muslims- who had obtained them by invasion and become indigenous by occupation, the technique used by the Russians themselves- were on the borders of Europe and Asia, in the Caucasus.

  8. It’s hard. I mean what do you do with the criminally insane?

  9. Hector

    you are broadly right – I didn’t mean indigenous and muslim to indicate they were aways the same people. But the Muslim areas were the most densely populated, and thus where the most active anti-colonial struggles are now underway.

  10. Correction Jbond. He is not insane. Psychopathic.

    Felicity Arbuthnot takes us back to Easter in Fallujah in 2003 and 2004.
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/04/us-militarism-and-easter-day-disinformation-on-iraq/

  11. BrianFujisan

    23 Apr, 2014 - 4:38 pm

    Great post Craig…

    RE the pope… there’s rather a lot he should be speaking out about, Syria being just one area…

    regarding evil hate monger bliar…there was an Excellent piece the other day…by Felicity Arbuthnot…here is some parts from it –

    Tony Blair, George W. Bush and David Cameron: Hijacking God?

    There must be something in the water at No 10 Downing Street, currently inhabited by Prime Minister David Cameron.

    When Tony Blair was in residence, according to the diaries of his former communications director, Alastair Campbell, before the illegal invasion of Iraq, for which Blair’s Downing Street offices produced fantasy, fictional, false justifications, the then Prime Minister was guided by his faith and regularly spoke to “his Maker.” Blair may have “spoken” – but, as ever, he clearly didn’t listen.

    An early statement from David Cameron seeking votes from, clearly, only the delusional, since Blair left office not so much under a cloud but under a black thundercloud of duplicity and deception, was that he was “heir to Blair.”

    Later he decided he was more in the mould of Margaret Thatcher.
    Judgement is clearly not his strong point. For a swathe of the British electorate he might as well have cited Vlad the Impaler and Ivan the Terrible as role models.

    However, last year it emerged that David Cameron has been seeking advice from Tony Blair of whom: “he is very admiring … he regards as a nice person and has conviction.”

    There have been formal meetings, seemingly telephone calls on policy issues and cosy dinners in the elegant Downing Street living quarters:

    “Mr Cameron has been keen to get inside the mind of Labour’s triple-election-winning Prime Minister from the start of his leadership.”(1)

    All a bit worrying, since according to a book written by Blair’s political agent of twenty four years, John Burton, his decision to enjoin the attacks in both the Balkans and Iraq were part of a “Christian battle.”

    “It’s very simple to explain the idea of Blair the Warrior”, Burton has said: “It was part of Tony living out his faith.” Blair’s: “Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly … that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil …” Also according to Burton, he viewed George W. Bush’s unhinged “War on Terror” as a “moral cause” in fighting evil.(2)

    Now, as the rhetoric from No 10 becomes increasingly hawkish and beligerant towards Syria, Russia and where ever the US has set it sights, it has to be wondered if Cameron has been stricken with this deviant, extremist, fundamentalist Blair-pox version of religion.

    Last Wednesday (9th April 2014) at his Easter reception at Downing Street for Christian leaders, Cameron reportedly again claimed divine inspiration when he drafted his key concept for the Conservative Party – he was doing God’s work.

    After a soprano sang Ave Maria the Prime Minister’s address included that:

    “It is the case that Christians are now the most persecuted religion around the world. We should stand up against persecution of Christians and other faith groups wherever and whenever we can.”(4)

    No mention of the years of Western-led attacks on majority Muslim countries, where both and all faiths have lived together, shared feasts and grief together for millennia. No mention of divide and rule. But maybe a whiff of a subliminal message, Syria is still on the radar.

    Blair produced the blueprint for the excuse for the destruction of Iraq, the country, for believers, where the father of Islam, Christianity and Judaism, Abraham was born at Ur. Cameron surely still has his eyes on the road to Damascus. And Blair, hell bent on a Syria attack is apparently a trusted mentor. One can only speculate, but the increasingly messianic Cameron-speak certainly has a chillingly Blair-like ring.

    The full Piece By Felicity is a good read….to be found @

    http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/tony-blair-george-w-bush-and-david-cameron-hijacking-god/

  12. Thanks Mary for the Felicity Arbuthnot article. Special consideration should be given to how Baghdad was turned from one of the most advanced cities to one of the worst. What an indictment on us and the Yanks who spearheaded this killing for oil. It is not for me to judge Blair and Bush. Hopefully whoever does will reach a judgment that tells the world that democracy is not elected dictatorship.

  13. John Richards

    23 Apr, 2014 - 4:54 pm

    Could Blair’s latest outpouring be timed to distract a little from this?

    text

  14. John Richards

    23 Apr, 2014 - 4:56 pm

  15. Blair the peace Envoy for the Middle East ?
    Still making the odd headline with his shouts of Jihad.
    He’s the war crazed fundamentalist.
    He will come to an abrupt end one day.
    Just a question of time.

  16. John Richards

    23 Apr, 2014 - 4:59 pm

    Apologies.

    Third time lucky?

    Guardian story headed: PLO and Hamas agree landmark unity pact

  17. John Richards, just paste the link text into the comment, like this:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/23/plo-hamas-agree-unity-pact-form-government

    Is that the page you mean?

  18. John Richards

    23 Apr, 2014 - 6:09 pm

    It is, Clark.

    Thanks.

  19. There is an alarming failure by many in the UK to understand that Russia is an Empire. Russia’s Asian possessions were taken by invasion from their indigenous and Muslim populations …

    With a few changes in names, exactly the same can be said of the US:

    America’s lands were taken by invasion from their indigenous Amerindian populations in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries …

    In fact, is there any land that is not now occupied by people who invaded and took their land from the indigenous inhabitants?

    So what are you saying? It seems that you are engaging gratuitous Russophobia, intended to convey, perhaps, the fear that Russia is ready to roll West and occupy all Europe. That is certainly the message promoted by the US of Aggression.

    But Europe is already occupied, and has been since WWII, by the US. Europe acquiesced in that occupation out of fear of invasion and occupation by the Soviet Union. Today, Europe does not fear post-Communist Russia. In fact many Europeans respect Russia’s determination to survive as a nation state by reversing a population implosion while preventing mass immigration from the Third World.

    The United States occupation of Europe can only be maintained by creating a new division between East and West, which it is attempting to do by stoking hatred of Russia. Germany seems not to be quite on board. Neither, as the up-coming European elections will prove, are huge numbers of other Europeans who want governments committed to national survival not the New-Wold-Order-mandated self-genocide through the promotion of non-reproductive sex, mass immigration and multiculturalism.

    Given a choice, Europe will opt for more trade with Russia not more war. But first they have to get the US Empire off their backs. To accomplish that, they will need to get the Quisling European leaders, the Camerons, Minibandits and Cloggs, the Goldman Sachs agents, the Hollandes, the Van Rompuys and Barrosos off their backs.

  20. John Dross

    “Special consideration should be given to how Baghdad was turned from one of the most advanced cities to one of the worst.”

    You mean from about 1250 CE?

  21. “The extraordinary thing is that Blair is somebody so hate-filled he wants to see yet more hatred, killing and violence.”

    I doubt he’s hate-filled. If he were, he’d at least have an emotional justification for his despicable acts. I suspect he doesn’t even have that shred of an excuse.

    He’s made a decision early in his political life to put his own advancement before any other consideration. If that means guiding our country into a war that will kill a million Iraqis, well, hey, they had to make him a Prime Minister to achieve it. He takes his orders from above, and at the moment, his job is inciting hatred against Muslims. Nothing personal, Muslims. He’d do the same to Christians if it pleased his masters.

    And there’s the rub. He’s sold his soul to the devil, he can feel the flames of hell licking at his heels, his credibility is disintegrating leaving him less and less to offer, and he knows that a time will come, maybe soon, when he’s worth more to them as a victim than a victor. And then he’ll find out what his devil’s contract is worth – they’ll throw him to the wolves to wring one more bit of use out of him.

    Until then, he’ll make their hate speeches …. and we’ll wait.

  22. DonnyDarko

    “Blair the peace Envoy for the Middle East ?
    Still making the odd headline with his shouts of Jihad.
    He’s the war crazed fundamentalist.
    He will come to an abrupt end one day.
    Just a question of time.”

    More deluded fantasies. Much as I can’t stand the ‘guy’, he’ll die an old man in his bed.

  23. Blair isn’t hate-filled and he isn’t in it for the money either, though that comes as a nice bonus. He is a psychopath, plain and simple.

  24. On a point of information: Tatarstan has been held by Russia ever since it was conquered by Ivan the Terrible in the 1550s, except for a period of 3-4 years after 1917.

  25. Can you name some of the oligarchs of the former Soviet space who have put tens of millions into Blair’s back pocket?

    Gordon Thomas once suggested they included Semion Mogilevich, one of the mafia bosses who has not gone legitimate and who remains on the FBI’s most wanted list. Comment?

    That they include Sultan Nazarbayev, dictator of Kazakhstan and, er, business partner of Alexander Mashkevitch, is well known.

    Roman Abramovich has also been mentioned.

    Tony Blair’s brother is William Blair, a High Court judge and a barrister who specialises in international financial lawlessness – oops, I mean law, and who is, er, active in the Virgin Islands and Qatar. Euan Blair is likely to go far…until his father is exposed, after which maybe he’ll end up like Mark Thatcher?

    Jack Straw and Peter Mandelson are also well-known crooks, as are, at a somewhat lower level, David Blunkett and John Prescott. Tessa Jowell is also an easy target. Of course subsequent ministers in other administrations, Labour and Con-LibDem, have been and are equally corrupt – as are many political figures who haven’t ever made it into any administrations, such as Paddy Ashdown.

    The role of ‘oligarch’ money in British politics is not the easiest subject for anyone to touch…

    But it’s pathetic that media figures are too lily-livered even to say anything about the late and unlamented Boris Berezovsky. Too fucking afraid to tug on that string!

  26. I find it interesting that no matter how Russia has been governed; monarchy, communist dictatorship or “democratically” elected president, their imperial tendencies are exactly the same.

  27. And worth noting that 60% of Americans polled in 2002 said that they would oppose war on Iraq if the US’s allies were against it, while 60 to 80% said they’d support it if America’s allies did. That means the Blairites’ excuse that the US would have invaded anyway and Blair had to be involved to try to have influence is false – without Blair’s support there would probably never have been a US invasion of Iraq

    http://www.americans-world.org/digest/regional_issues/Conflict_Iraq/multilat_support.cfm

  28. Yoave wrote “I find it interesting that no matter how Russia has been governed; monarchy, communist dictatorship or “democratically” elected president, their imperial tendencies are exactly the same.”

    Completely agree. Russian governments have always been basically hardline Russian nationalists and imperialists irrespective of changes in rhetoric or ideology.

    The Dalai Lama in his autobiography said something similar after meeting Chinese communist leaders for the firs time – that they were Marxist in rhetoric but hardline nationalist in their actions.

  29. That’s assuming that those Americans asked knew where Iraq was!

    Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests
    John Roach
    for National Geographic News

    May 2, 2006

    Young adults in the United States fail to understand the world and their place in it, according to a survey-based report on geographic literacy released today.

    Take Iraq, for example. Despite nearly constant news coverage since the war there began in 2003, 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate the country on a map of the Middle East. Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel.

    Nine in ten couldn’t find Afghanistan on a map of Asia.

    And 54 percent were unaware that Sudan is a country in Africa.

    /..
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/0502_060502_geography.html

    Same applies in this country?

  30. @Mary

    What’s more so is our ability to not to be able to find a job whether worthwhile or not and
    Geographical educational knowledge is not ultimately fundamental too but concern of other peoples perspectives are.

  31. This, pre-Iraq War and from someone who was far more generous to Blair than he needed to be:

    “… the Blairs’ instinctive sympathy has always been with Israel, and if Tony is vulnerable to any charge of partisanship, it is that he does not emotionally identify with the consistent repression of the Palestinian people.”
    – Robin Cook “The Point of Departure” (2003) p166, entry for 19 June, 2002.

  32. “Blair isn’t hate-filled and he isn’t in it for the money either, though that comes as a nice bonus. He is a psychopath, plain and simple.”

    How did he get into Labour politics. It wasn’t quite the traditional route, was it.

    And so loved by media, even in the early days.

    Made for the role.

  33. “I find it interesting that no matter how Russia has been governed; monarchy, communist dictatorship or “democratically” elected president, their imperial tendencies are exactly the same.”

    Yes let’s damn Russia for its imperialistic “tendency” while ignoring that it’s the US with their Blairite puppets in the UK, France and the Persian Gulf who have killed hundreds of thousand, and probably millions, and created at least ten million refugees in just the last few years in their efforts to remake the map of the Middle East and who are now pushing on with their Nazi friends in Kyiv to complete the encirclement of Russia, to be followed by the encirclement of China.

  34. I doubt most 18-24 year olds in the UK could say where Iraq was on a map either – not because they’re dumb or poorly educated but because most of them unfortunately just aren’t interested

  35. Once in a while, the mainstream media do their best to bring Blair back into the fold. But the public will never garner upon this war criminal and psychopath the recognition he craves.

  36. CanSpeccy, 6:50 pm; you were always a bit odd, but can you not see that you’re going quite mad? You’re obsessed with the reproduction rates of people from different countries and cultures. This is the stuff that preoccupied the Nazis and the eugenicists of the 20th century. People are people. You have to get over this “us and them” fixation; it’s unhealthy.

  37. Clark, whether you are a bit odd yourself, or perhaps stark staring mad, I don’t know, but what you and others of the liberal-left are doing is denying the ongoing genocide of the English while preening yourself on your superior morals, which seems contemptible to me.

    All creatures have an tendency to benefit their own kind and their closest kin at the expense of others. That is the law of life. Creatures that fail to put the interests of their own offspring and relatives and their own race over the interests of less closely related members of the same species lose out in the evolutionary contest. Technically, such behavior serves to maximize inclusive fitness, i.e., the representation of the individual’s genes in future generations.

    Liberal racial pseudo-science, touted as anti-racism, denies this fundamental law of evolutionary biology and thereby supports genocide of the English by promoting every kind of non-reproductive sex while encouraging mass immigration of people who, for the most part, regard liberal ideology with the contempt that it deserves.

    As a result, the English race is already more than half-way eliminated in London, Leicester, Luton, and Slough, and in Birmingham’s primary schools English children are not even the largest minority. Under the genocidal policies of all three main-line parties, the English will be a minority across the land within barely half a century.

    Liberals today have an attitude reminiscent of that of the pre-war Colonel Blimp: complacent, pig-headed and ignorant. They are the stupids who “rule” in a democratic society because they are the people most easily brainwashed by a treasonous elite.

    If pressed, some more intelligent liberals might justify universal destruction of the nation state as the necessary precondition for the New World Order, aka American Global hegemony. That, presumably, is why the globalists such as Craig Murray like to demonize the Russians as imperialists: it distracts attention from the imperialism of the cause they serve, while hastening, they hope, the destruction of Russia as an ethnically defined state.

  38. CanSpeccy,

    ” the ongoing genocide of the English”

    What a load of hysterical gibberish mate.

    Go and have a lie down will ya?

  39. Craig’s posts are like buses, you wait ages then four come at once.

  40. Jives, you’re a liberal-leftist wonder. Just like every other defender of genocide, you cannot apparently present a single argument or rebut a single fact: just the usual liberal leftist jeers and sneers. But just in case anyone visiting this blog is interested in clarification of what is happening and what is at stake:

    England, like the rest of Western Europe, has been occupied by the American empire since the end of WWII.

    What is the greatest threat to imperial control? Nationalism.

    How do empires combat nationalist opposition? Genocide.

    “The crime of the [German Nazi] Reich in wantonly and deliberately wiping out whole peoples is not utterly new in the world. It is only new in the civilized world as we have come to think of it. It is so new in the traditions of civilized man that he has no name for it.

    “It is for this reason that I took the liberty of inventing the word, “genocide.” … As Von Rundstedt has suggested the term does not necessarily signify mass killings although it may mean that.

    “More often it refers to a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight. The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort. Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong” – Raphael Lemkin.

    The methods deployed by the puppets of empire, Heath, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Cameron, are slow but sure. The English are already more than half way eliminated in London, Luton, Leicester and Slough, and headed for minority status across the land within 50 years, a rather short time in the life of a nation.

  41. Craig’s posts are like buses, you wait ages then four come at once.

    All of them more or less empty.

  42. BrianFujisan

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:25 am

    Ten things Proving Tony bliar’s ‘extremism’

    1, Tony bliar has never shown a shred of remorse for the extremism of mass slaughter and destruction for which he was directly responsible, not least in Iraq

    2, Tony bliar is a supporter of extremism around the world, whether it be the dictators in Saudi Arabia and Kazakhstan, the despots ruling the oil states Kuwait and Bahrain, or Israel’s apartheid regime that occupies Palestinian land in contravention of international law and countless UN resolutions. When prime minister, not content with waging illegal wars, he was up to his neck in CIA torture and kidnapping ‘every step of the way’.

    5, bliar has called repeatedly for western military intervention in the Syrian civil war. He believes it was a terrible error that the west did not launch an air attack on Syria in August 2013. He says the west should impose no-fly zones and arm directly the Syrian rebels. He believes Britain should have invaded Syria, whether the British public wanted it or not (all opinion polls show a majority of the British public opposes intervention)..

    6, bliar’s lack of self awareness and remorse makes him a highly dangerous individual and totally unsuited to his role as envoy for peace in the Middle East. He supported Israel’s wars in Lebanon and Gaza. He never loses an opportunity to praise the Israeli apartheid state, one recent example being his sickening eulogy at the funeral of the mass murdering former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon, who he called “a giant of this land”.

    8, When under fire for his disastrous record, Tony Blair’s answer is to blame the Muslims. He attacks Islam as a means of absolving his wars from any connection or responsibility for atrocities like the London bombings on 7 July 2005 and the killing in 2013 of UK soldier Lee Rigby. He accuses Muslims of imposing an ideology based on the belief that there is one proper religion and only one proper view of it. As he well knows, this is not the view of most Muslims in most countries. It is true however of his allies in Saudi Arabia.

    9, bliar is an ‘extremist’ when it comes to accumulating vast personal wealth – now calculated to be over £70 million – by exploiting the contacts he made when he was prime minister, committing war crimes that should have seen him behind bars. He sells his services to merchant bankers, oil companies and despotic regimes such as Kazakhstan, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi. He is one of the world’s highest paid public speakers, often earning over £250,000 for one speech. He flies around in a £30 million private chartered jet. On top of this, he takes £435,000 a year from the British taxpayers, who finance the prime minister’s pension of £70,000 which he still draws, the £250,000 cost of his security and £115,000 for his ‘political office’…

    http://stopwar.org.uk/videos/ten-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-extremism-of-tony-blair#.U1ibW1VdWqj

    And this is the kind of thing the murderous lying bastard supports –

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/04/israeli-soldiers-school.html

    Sad, touching Poem in the comments section… ‘I Am You’ By – Refaat Alareer

    The poem ends thus –

    All you have to do
    ‏Is close your eyes
    ‏(Seeing these days
    ‏Blinds our hearts.)
    ‏Close your eyes, tightly
    ‏So that you can see
    ‏In your mind’s eye.
    ‏Then look into the mirror.
    ‏One. Two.
    ‏I am you.
    ‏I am your past.
    ‏And killing me,
    ‏You kill you.

  43. Anon:
    Blair is very like “the portrait of Dorian Grey”.
    As the years progress, the poison that is inside the man begins to show in his face.
    He is a very evil person with no conscience.
    It is wishful thinking and I do believe that what goes around ,comes around.
    If he does die in bed, I hope that its his prison bed.
    Meanwhile declared costs of Chilcott are 7.5 million and growing as the war criminals circle their waggons and block any publication ,progress, or access to evidence of their crimes.The fact that it is allowed to happen shows that the UK really is a failed State.

  44. The perceived lack of knowledge of the position of Iraq on a map did not stop Americans putting these bumper stickers on their vehicles and signing up for the war in their thousands upon thousands.

    http://www.cafepress.ca/+iraq-war+bumper-stickers
    http://www.zazzle.co.uk/iraq+bumperstickers

    Mummies and Daddies even boasted of their children’s efforts such as ‘I Love My Navy Daughter’.

    ~~~

    Thanks Brian for your post and the short poem.

    Donny Darko I don’t think there will ever be a Chilcot Report. It was designed to be a piece of theatre for the Ac-Tors. BLiar is the consummate Ac-Tor.

  45. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 8:46 am

    Isn’t Tony Blair simply an Israeli govt mouthpiece?

    It’s possible that he doesn’t realise it himself, but he does seem to have been subverted; not that he was unsympathetic in the first place. One reading might be that Israel has had a lot of difficulty with Russia vis-a-vis Syria. The usual two-faced relationship failed when Russia proved to be inflexible on backing Assad, and supplied/planned to supply ( I’m not clear on whether they arrived) advanced missiles to him. These were seen by Israel, like anything else not giftwrapped and sent with love from the US, as a threat. Yeah, yeah, Hezbullah could have got their hands on them, but it was pretty obvious they weren’t going there. Tony has pull with the oligarchs, and – who knows? – with Putin, and can be relied on to point out the common interest in suppressing Syria and weakening – hopefully destroying – Iran. Which is always the Israeli endgame.

    Delighted to see Hamas and Fatah have managed to sink their differences, at least for now. Worth it, alone to hear the lying neo-nazi bastard Regev squirming when it was pointed out that for years the Israelis have declined to deal on the basis that not all Palestinians were represented ( thanks entirely to the Israelis) while the latest noises coming from Tel Aviv clearly indicate that Israel declines to deal when all Palestinians are represented, because Hamas will now be part of the process.

    A little earlier in the week, in this connection, it was entertaining to hear Joe Biden on the subject of Ukraine:

    “No nation has the right to simply grab land from another nation,” Biden said. “We will never recognize Russia’s illegal occupation of Crimea.”

    US to urge return of West Bank to Palestine? I think not.

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Ukraine-calls-for-more-anti-terror-measures/25596062

  46. Ramzy Baroud on Indyk and the ‘peace talks’ pretence.

    Martin Indyk’s Galloping Horse
    Moral Crisis at Heart of Obama’s Peace

    by Ramzy Baroud / April 23rd, 2014

    To understand how thoughtless the US latest ‘peace process’ drive has been, one only needs to consider some of the characters involved in this political theater. One particular character who stands out as a testament to the inherently futile exercise is Martin Indyk.

    Indyk, a former US ambassador to Israel, was selected by Secretary of State John Kerry for the role of Special Envoy for negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Under normal circumstances, Kerry’s selection may appear somewhat rational. Former ambassadors oftentimes possess the needed expertise to navigate challenging political landscapes in countries where they previously served. But these are not normal circumstances, and Indyk is hardly a diplomat in the strict use of the term.

    /..
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/04/martin-indyks-galloping-horse/

  47. “And there’s the rub. He’s sold his soul to the devil, he can feel the flames of hell licking at his heels, his credibility is disintegrating leaving him less and less to offer, and he knows that a time will come, maybe soon, when he’s worth more to them as a victim than a victor. And then he’ll find out what his devil’s contract is worth – they’ll throw him to the wolves to wring one more bit of use out of him.”

    Not a bad analysis, anode, he’s throshing for the warmongers global inc. now. This was followed by the latest shitbrained idea by this Government to radicalise Muslims some more.

    I find the drive by Cmdr. Ball of the Met nauseatingly stupid, trying to persuade mothers to inform on their jihadi inspired sons, primitive information gathering.
    Cmdr. Ball does not say that she will share all the information gathered in specific national call centres, with the NSA and GCHQ, she does not mention what will happen to radicalised young women and men who, despite this initiative, still go on to humanitarian and jihadi causes to Syria and elsewhere.

    what will it mean to a Muslim community to have young men arrested in the morning, who helped bring humanitarian aid to Syria.

    And what does this mean for all those Muslims who founght in Afghanistan as part of NATO’s effort, who, blessed by a priest/iman, went there to fight the Taliban, who swore an oath to kill for Queen and country? Will they have to worry about a wedding trip or for visiting relatives in Pakistan, because they have fought before?

    Is this measure discouraging young Muslims to serve in the Forces?

    This awful decision is well prepared and backed up, but will do nothing but radicalise Muslims some more, a game of nudge.

    Muslim mothers, women should resist this call which is nothing but primitive information gathering by a country prepared to arm mad Saudi paid jihadists as they see fit, but don’t want to see ‘rogue mercenaries’ they have not indoctrinated themselves.

    Dumbing down seems to have reached the highest echelons now.

  48. This post is on ICH with a strange title and a misspelling!

    Blair’s Trick

    By Craig Murry

    April 23, 2014 “ICH” – The greatest boost ever received by Islamic fundamentalism was the invasion of Iraq. Closely followed by extraordinary rendition, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo……….

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38322.htm

  49. You have exposed the hypocrisy of the powers-that-be who run this state Nevermind. They probably pretend not to see the irony.

  50. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 9:45 am

  51. The real failure in this country is to understand that the US is an Empire.

  52. Briar,

    Perhaps; my own perception is that is fairly widely understood – the problem is the people in the media and the political establishment who make a fat living from supporting it.

  53. “The real failure in this country is to understand that the US is an Empire.”

    And the UK is part of it.

    I think most people who contribute here are aware of US imperialistic aims for world domination, but there are one or two, paid and unpaid, who are in denial. There are still people who believe that global warming is not an issue. There are still some who believe 9/11 was not an inside job (but avoid calling for any kind of impartial investigation). As Tony Blair said, history will judge.

  54. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 10:32 am

    Following the money, Israel, Blair – the extent of Blair’s involvement in Israel’s effective annexation of the Gaza gas field may be new to some. This is the pretty straight sort of guy who had the fucking gall to represent himself as a mediator – and still does.

    http://mondediplo.com/blogs/israel-s-war-for-gaza-s-gas

    This is very well worth a read, IMO. Follow-the-money country, shows who gains from maintaining Gaza as an isolated ghetto slum. Blair among them.

  55. Craig,

    Can you see a distinction between hating Islam and hating Muslims?

  56. Some British Muslims see Islam as a greater adversary than Russia :-

    http://www.hizb.org.uk/current-affairs/islam-not-russia-represents-the-true-challenge-to-western-hegemony

  57. Thanks Baal, I have a lot of time for Nafeez Mosaddeque Ahmed, his analysis are well researched and spot on.

  58. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 11:25 am

    Jemand – looks like hizb.org (which you cited) have the same difficulty…

    http://www.hizb.org.uk/current-affairs/blair-says-the-ideological-struggle-against-islam-should-trump-every-other-agenda

    Problem being that “militant/fundamentalist/Salafist” Islam is ambiguous. It can make the distinction, or it can be taken, particularly by racialists and neocons, as dogwhistle politics for “Islam” without the distinction.

    In any case, there is little evidence that Blair himself intended a distinction from what I have to call moderate Islam; whether through naivete, or through his natural desire to ingratiate himself with his corporate and political allies he omitted to make one. And there is no doubt that by his own actions he has helped to create and enhance the desire for a potent and feared new Caliphate.

    Purely as an aside: If this were a Christian country, with a God-fearing, moral and devout population adhering to the Book’s teachings, it’s worth a moment to speculate on quite how interested the Salafists would be in changing our wicked ways, isn’t it? My guess is, not much.

  59. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 11:30 am

    I like him too, Nevermind.

    If Galloway actually completes “The Killing of Tony Blair”, and if the research is any good at all, it is going to be an extremely long film…

  60. O/T freely translated and just the guist of it. Shan’t translate the lot, but have not read anything of the incident here. Japan has also protested last week after having two Bears fly up and down their coastline.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-russische-tu-95-bomber-testen-nato-luftabwehr-a-965866.html

    Two Bears, Tupolev 95 Russian Bombers have tested the air defences of the UK, the Netherlands and Germany yesterday, with two jets being scramled from Leuchars in Scotland and Volkel in Holland to ensure that they did nbot stray.

    The UK will send three fighter jets on permanent watch to Lithuania next week.

  61. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 11:37 am

    Never a week used to pass during the Cold War without a Tu-95 ‘Bear’ testing our defences, or perhaps just having a nice day out abroad. Contrary to someone’s assertion yesterday that we never let them into UK airspace, they could sometimes be seen near the Scottish coastline, I recall. Shots were never fired.

  62. Agreed Baal, except that when they appeared on forward radar, they were already greeted by fighter jets before they breached airspace, ideally, not after they have already scanned your defense reactions.

    what I’m saying is that we have become a tad slow and they would have picked that up.

  63. Correction. Thats 4 Typhoons that are being shifted to Lithuania next week.

  64. BZ,

    Tony Blair doesn’t interest me much except for the living lesson that he serves wrt delusional careerists who leave destruction in the wake of their ambitions.

    Certainly Muslims interpret and/or claim that anti-Islamic sentiments are inherently anti-Muslim, they would, wouldn’t they? And there will be people who purport to be only anti-Islam while secretly harbouring enjoyment of attacks against innocent Muslims. However, the distinction between anti-Islam and anti-Muslim must be made and defended.

    In regards to “dog whistling”, this is always a suspect, unproven/unproveable charge against critics of XYZ. It is conveniently self-serving to translate literal X into inaudible Y in order to tarnish an opponent with imaginary offences. Having said that, you have my blessings to cut Phoney Tony off at the legs by any means fair or foul.

  65. Hi Nevermind

    got your message the other day…

    yes be good to catch up again… i was at the Rest and Be Thankfull …having a wee rest Lol..after having come back from isle of Seil..on sunday… look forward to it :)

  66. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 12:11 pm

    …suspect, unproven/unproveable charge against critics of XYZ….

    Really? You only have to look at what the dogs do to see if someione is using a dogwhistle, inaudible as it may be to you.

    F’rinstance (now cached, so readable without a Paypal account):

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UQacKscs-v4J:http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.586925%2Bblair+netanyahu+haaretz&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&hl=en&ct=clnk&gws_rd=cr

    “Tony Blair just endorsed Benjamin Netanyahu’s worldview”

    This will of course be seen as great news in the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem. For those around the world who despise either (or both) of the two men, this is further proof – if needed – that Blair has long ago crossed over to the dark side. It’s not only his dichotomy of the forces of enlightenment fighting the forces trying to plunge the world into a new dark age – but also his policy prescriptions proposed that tally with official and unofficial Israeli policies.

    Eh? What?

  67. Canspeccy,

    There’s really no point in attempting to argue rationally with posters like you.

    Genocide??

    You are deranged.

  68. Fucking Heartbreaking video….and they have been / are / want to ..be doing it all over the fkn place….

    From Iraq, With Love

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDbuFVyFMsk&feature=share

  69. It’s all kicking off in Eastern Ukraine right now. According to RT, 5000 Right Sector brownshirts are doing most of the attacking.

    Here are the latest neocon lies exposed. Robert Parry wrote a lot of the Iran/Contra stories in the 1980s. This one’s on another dodgy dossier:

    http://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/23/nyt-retracts-russian-photo-scoop/

  70. So looking forward to some civilisation Brian…..

    Rasmussen has/is ramp/ing/ed up NATO’s responses, by air and sea, so he says, Germany is sending 6 Eurofighters and a ship into the effort and Minesweepers are having a manouvre in the Baltic and all sorts of ships are being dispatched into the eastern Med and the Baltic.

    Putin knows this game well from his KGB days, tit for tat will be the response. Sachalin might be a focus again, manouvres in Ossetia, who knows. Equally, China’s interests in some coral reefs in the south China sea, not to mention Taiwan, might also be tested.
    Blair sits on the sidelines egging and goading everyone on to have a go at fundamentalism globally, when, by his example, this involves lying to public and Parliament just as fundamentalists do.

    China’s relaitions with Russia, one could argue, are at the most cooperative friendly and most mutually beneficial today, dare I say this, more than they have ever been in past history. There still is the continuously oozing pustule of North Korea, but since they now have bought Ushers brewery, lock, stock and barrels and are producing proper beer, Hope is eternal….

    The US is thoroughly scared of such mutuality and its lack of access to Russia’s riches, its hopping mad that China will use Russian gas to become greener and possibly ever more dominant as global power brokers and large scale developers, as we can see from their African fervour.

    We should not allow NATO to be used to scare us into another cold war with Russia, its relevance, aims and objectives, has no meaning in a powerful South east Asia, US promises to support Japan militarily are not NATO promises, afaik.
    This sabre rattling could be detrimental to all our health.

    nevermind Fukushima

  71. Mike

    “According to RT, 5000 Right Sector brownshirts are doing most of the attacking.”

    Really? what a surprise from RT. I find those that can see through the mainstream media propaganda to which we are subjected, only to swallow wholesale every morsel of propaganda from an equally evil imperial power, not merely sad but puzzling.

    Those of us who know Eastern Europe well, realize that there are unpleasant drunken nationalist macho men of very far right views on both sides of the barricades. And special forces of rival imperial powers helping them on.

  72. Canspeccy

    What you are spouting is racism pure and simple – your claim that your views are supported by evolutionary biology are just laughable. if anything the evidence shows that those with mixed race backgrounds are more intelligent and beautiful than those with more pure ethnicity, and actually the evidence points to the fact that nearly all of us have rather mixed up DNA. Mixing of races as opposed to the in breeding you are so keen on is actually what evolution is about. Please return to your Neolithic cave.

  73. “I find those that can see through the mainstream media propaganda to which we are subjected, only to swallow wholesale every morsel of propaganda from an equally evil imperial power, not merely sad but puzzling.”

    Confirmation bias. They hate the West and support its enemies, and are prepared to believe anything that supports their views.

  74. Would it be fair to say that this is the first time since Vietnam that US hegemony has been challenged? All the intervening wars have been somewhat one-sided.

    Vietnam was at China’s backdoor, and Ukraine is at Russia’s. Vietcong… China v South Vietnam… US. Surely they don’t want another 10 years war ending in stalemate. Plus ca change…

  75. Peacewisher,

    I don’t think they did a bad job of resisting in Afghanistan, to be fair!

  76. Which “they”, Craig, and which war?

    Afghanistan mark 1: US obliquely resisting Russian hegemony (Charlie Wilson’s war..)
    Afghanistan mark 2: NATO, but very much US-led. Didn’t Russia keep well out of that one? Wouldn’t have seen Putin as a fan of the Taliban.

  77. I meant the Afghans did a good job of resisting the Yanks and their servants.

  78. True enough, Craig. I suppose it wasn’t a full scale war with half a million troops like Iraq. As ever, though, a tragic and needless orgy of heinous wounding and loss of life. I was amazed by the Enron connection, dated 1997, on the cover of “Murder in Samarkind”. Another war for oil?

  79. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 1:58 pm

    after having come back from isle of Seil..on sunday

    Hope you gave our regards to the weird shade of the late C.John Taylor, highland ‘artist’ and bampot extraordinaire –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clyBXE6K6WU

    5.11 in…includes poem containing traces of nuts.

  80. Craig, Russia may well have imperial ambitions (more likely a desire to dominate its “backyard”) but “equally evil”? I can think of a very long list of countries whose inhabitants might take a different view.

  81. Obomber, the hollow man, is running down aircraft steps and striding around Asia. China excepted. Cosying up to Abe. Wonder if Fukushima has been discussed. There should be a mahor international action to deal with it. Instead the pollution is spreading far and wide even to US Pacific shores.

    Obama says US will defend Japan in island dispute with China
    President on state visit to Japan warns against challenge to Tokyo’s administration of Senkaku islands
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/24/obama-in-japan-backs-status-quo-in-island-dispute-with-china

    He really is pathetic.

  82. …major international action….

  83. Pathetic and very dangerous, Mary, like all psychopaths.

    I get the feeling that the US is gearing up for something big. The “pivot to Asia” inevitably means neutering Russia and China’s ability to project power beyond their own borders. Ukraine is the new frontline in that strategy.

    And I don’t think the psychos care how it might escalate.

  84. @Mike: Is this to be Tony Blair’s “rapture”?

  85. Ha. I;m sure he’s watching the live feed on RT and drooling at the prospect…

  86. Mary, Mike,

    Obama shows his true colours. Japan and the US allies. How touching – just like WW2.

  87. BZ – “Really? You only have to look at what the dogs do to see if someione is using a dogwhistle, inaudible as it may be to you.”

    Well, there is a difference between stating something benign and observing a reaction on the one hand and subtly encouraging behaviour on the other.

    Accusers of ‘dog-whistling’ paradoxically (and comically, in my view) refer to the silence as proof that an inaudible message is being sent.

    “Can you hear that?”
    “What?”
    “The dog-whistle.”
    “No!”
    “That’s because the dog-whistle is only audible to dogs, not us humans.”
    “Oh, yeah. Now I can hear it.”
    “What?”
    “The silence of the dog-whistle.”

    Some politicians appear to hint at sympathies, disingenuously I suspect, and cautiously avoid more direct language that would prevent them from an embarrassing backdown in the event of a political backlash. But vague wording by politicians and self-serving interpretations by both supporters and opponents do not give us any clarity or certainty as to what is and what is not being communicated.

    I am not suggesting that Phoney Tony is not subtly communicating his preparedness to supply his services to big-cheque-writing fans. I take that for granted.

  88. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 4:09 pm

    Can you name some of the oligarchs of the former Soviet space who have put tens of millions into Blair’s back pocket?

    A few more: (And see David @ 0856 above)

    Viktor Pinchuk, Ukraine, £500K to TB Faith Foundation*
    Oleg Deripaska, Russia, £300K to TB’s Breaking The Climate Deadlock* (moribund since 2011)
    Nizami Piriyev, Azerbaijan £100K (est) for single TB speech

    *Reminder: these charities don’t have separate transparent accounts – donations go through Windrush Ventures Ltd, LP and LLP and evaporate unaccountably. This may partly be to avoid inheritance tax –
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/dec/01/mystery-tony-blair-finances

    No outside “angel” investing cash in Blair Enterprises appears in the records. The structure is so artificial that in one part of it, Blair is, in effect, forming partnerships with himself.

    As David says, don’t talk about the Berezovsky. Or the Saudis, for that matter.

  89. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 4:11 pm

    Mr Goss

    “I think most people who contribute here are aware of US imperialistic aims for world domination, but there are one or two, paid and unpaid, who are in denial.”
    __________________

    Well, I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m not one of those “most people”.

    BTW, you could drop the cheap “paid or unpaid” business. You effing Communist.

  90. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 4:21 pm

    Obviously, that isn’t tens of millions. The real cash stream doesn’t come from oligarchs’ generous donations in respect of business being put their way by Tone, although that must help. The heavy money comes from European and American taxpayers funding those forms of foreign aid which are in demand by autocrats. TB gets a rake-off on these to cover the vast expense of pointing out that they exist and putting up a brass plate in the autocrat’s capital. And he is additionally rewarded by JP Morgan and Zurich Insurance for the trade he can drum up from dodgy governments. I’m guessing. But that’s what it looks like. When Tone tells some dodgy and brutish state leader that he would like to work in partnership with him to deliver expensive and right-on improvements, Tone’s money isn’t on the line. The funding source is described in the most nebulous terms but is occasionally identifiable as an EU or UN initiative with which Tone has no formal connection whatever.

  91. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    24 Apr, 2014 - 4:32 pm

    Jemand,
    Just watch who can hear Blair, and responds favourably. And read the whole speech, if you haven’t. What he says, essentially, at one point, is that we can give up on Israel making peace with the Palestinians and instead attack everyone who threatens Israel in the hope that that will solve the Palestinian problem*. But he doesn’t say it very clearly. Keep your eye on the JPost to see who got the message…

    I think the Israelis are already very much aware that Blair is an honorary Chosen Person. He’s bought and paid for. And has no real need to impress them further. It’s more than a desire to please.

    *It will. Israel will then be able to expand its settlements and squeeze the Pals out completely, without let or hindrance.

  92. “We don’t take a position on this piece of land or this piece of rock but we do take a position on the peaceful resolution of these disputes.”

    Obama – Japan – April 2014

    Translation= “We don’t have an opinion on this piece of land or this piece of rock unless that land (Diegi Garcia) or rock (Gibralta?) is strategically important or commercially cardinal to us but we do not want China to take back $1.317 trillion they hold in US bonds.

  93. CanSpeccy wrote “The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion.”

    Not one of those has been done to British or English people. Their political system remains if anything backward, still using an electoral system that throws most votes in the bin unrepresented and unchanged since the 19th century.

    Has the English language been abolished or people discouraged from speaking it? No. Is is no longer the language taught in schools and the official language of government? It remains the language of education and government and the dominant language and there is no prospect of that changing.

    The government whether Labour or Conservative never shuts up about Britishness. The Anglican Christian Church remains the official state religion and the Pm bangs on about this being a “Christian country”.

    Can Speccy wrote “It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity.”

    While the NHS and welfare state and public services are being eroded this has been applied to immigrants and people applying for refugee status even more harshly than on people born here.

    You are giving all these definitions of genocide, not one of which applies to English or Scottish or Welsh people in the UK today. Not one. Give it up. You’re only making yourself look foolish.

  94. I just saw the whole speech on Bloomberg’s website and thought it was very good, with the qualification that Blair may have muddied his own waters by his treatment of China and Russia – not emphasizing human rights as much as cooperation in fighting terrorism. I would say that Boko Haram and ISIS are indeed a worrying sign of the threat from Islamism increasing. Also Blair’s support for the war in Iraq has unfortunately undermined his credibility and hence the ability to exert a good influence by means of this speech.

  95. Quel surprise!

    Israel suspends talks with Palestinian Authority over Fatah-Hamas unity deal
    Seeks clarifications of make-up and policy of new Palestinian government.

    By Barak Ravid | 17:56 24.04.14

    The diplomatic-security cabinet voted Thursday to suspend negotiations with the Palestinian Authority in the wake of the PA’s unity agreement with Hamas the previous day.

    /..
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.587237

    or

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27146734

  96. BBC News on Middle East: still broadcasting the discredited trope of US as peace-makers

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1398333470.html

  97. C’mon, Mary. Millions of people believe them so they have to keep up the narrative! If they change their story all these people will start thinking… The question is, how long can they, or anyone else, keep up the lie(s) in these times of twitter, instagram, etc. Congrats to Brazil, by the way. Do you remember their stand-off with CNN way back in 2001?

  98. Craig said, ‘Blair of course has many tens of millions stuffed into his capacious back-pocket…’

    We remember £1.4 billion out of tax-paying wages in 2003/4 was underhandedly used to guarantee the BAE Al-Yamamah arms deal. Moving forward, Blair and his pal Lord Goldsmith attempted to block BAE and others bribery allegations on grounds of strategic national security (after consulting another mate, Saudi Prince Bandar) whose slush kitty funds weapons to proxy fighters in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/15/politics.armstrade

    No company or individual was convicted of bribery and BAE paid a small fine.

    http://archive.today/SaMU

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6182125.stm

  99. doug scorgie

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:32 pm

    Turkey troop movements in Syria

    Erdogan has sent some 300 forces and several armored vehicles to the neighboring country to protect the tomb of Suleyman Shah, who was the grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey’s Today Zaman daily said on Wednesday.

    The convoy also consists of six tanks and a food truck.
    Turkey considers the tomb of Suleyman Shah as sovereign Turkish territory under a treaty signed with France in 1921. The tomb is located in Syria’s northern city of Aleppo.

    An Ottoman tomb in or near Qal’at Ja’bar has historically been associated with Suleyman Shah. In accordance with Article 9 of the Treaty of Ankara (1921) signed between France and Turkey, an area of 8000 meters square containing the tomb remained Turkish territory despite the main border between Syria and Turkey being some 100 km north, thereby creating a Turkish Exclave.

    ‘MILITARY REINFORCEMENT AT SYRIA TERRITORY IS PLANNED ACTIVITY’

    http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2014/04/24/military-reinforcement-at-syria-territory-is-planned-activity

  100. @Jives:
    There’s really no point in attempting to argue rationally with posters like you.

    Genocide??

    I understand your failure to offer a single fact or argument to rebut the claim that the English are being progressively replaced by people from elsewhere, as have the majority already been replaced in London, Luton, Leicester, and Slough, for there is no argument available. As for refusal to accept the description of the process as genocide, that is understandable, too. I expect the Nazi’s jeered at, and sneered at, and called insane any Jew who might have objected to the Holocaust. How else, can an advocate of genocide respond to those who mention the crime?

  101. BrianFujisan

    24 Apr, 2014 - 7:04 pm

    Ba’al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    Lol… where do you find these wee snippits…Thank you for the video :) They are correct…

    i’ve been in the highland arts joint maybe 3 times…and that’s twice more than enough… aye the place is Dark alright… Creepy as fk… even a huge Male chastity belt contraption up on the wall… AND the effin Music, i should think, hope the Staff get Danger money for having to listen to that old Scottish stuff all day…all week… its torture…NEVER GO THERE… Not even for a gift…just grab a wee slate off the beach…( that’s illegal though…but fuck em )

    A final note though, the wee Village of Ellenabeich, is a wonderful place… we sat oot under the Black Starry sky.. listening to the music of big Atlantic Rollers… And a wee dram of course…. Bliss man.

    oopps gotta dash to the Dojo

  102. @Eslo

    What you are spouting is racism pure and simple

    Yes, I understand that anti-racism is the correct term for the kind of genocide being perpetrated across Western Europe by the advocates of globalization and the unrestricted movement of labor, capital, goods and profits across international boundaries.

    But calling opposition to genocide racism doesn’t alter the reality of the process as defined by Raphael Lemkin who I quoted above.

    your claim that your views are supported by evolutionary biology are just laughable.

    You may well laugh, since what else can an ignoramus opposed to reality do.

    But having graduated in biology with first class honors and the Faculty Prize from a decent English University, I don’t find basic concepts in evolutionary biology laughable.

    As for your statement if anything the evidence shows that those with mixed race backgrounds are more intelligent and beautiful than those with more pure ethnicity

    it is beside the point. I said nothing about the hypothesis of hybrid vigor in humans, I was talking of the destruction of human biodiversity through the destruction of the European nations.

    Just as you consider opposition to genocide racism, you are probably one of those who claim to be a champion of diversity while advocating policies that destroy human biodiversity.

    Mixing of races as opposed to the in breeding you are so keen on is actually what evolution is about

    That is mere drivel. Evolution is not “about” anything, it just happens. Today, human evolution is being driven by the political needs of a globalist empire that finds nationalism the chief obstacle to establishing a global plutocratic system under which the mass of humanity will be reduced to the status of a domesticated animal to be bred, culled, and brainwashed at the behest of undemocratic international bodies of governance subject to the money power, i.e., the global banks and other mega corporations.

  103. Resident Dissident

    24 Apr, 2014 - 10:29 pm

    “I was talking of the destruction of human biodiversity through the destruction of the European nations.”

    Garbage – anyone with half a brain would realise that there is a lot more human biodiversity in European nations than used to be the case – and jolly good thing too.

    “Evolution is not “about” anything, it just happens. Today, human evolution is being driven by the political needs…………….”

    “the second sentence contradicts the first, and although I am not a trained biologist I’m pretty sure that Darwin didn’t say that evolution juts happens – are you sure that your English university was that decent, or perpahs you have just forgot what you were taught.

    ESLO clearly has your number I’m afraid.

  104. I don’t know why anybody listens to Tony Blair; it is just a deep and baffling mystery to me.

    Yes, Russia is an empire. So is the continental U.S.A. from sea to shining sea and between Mexico and Canada – never mind the overseas stuff.

    My suspicion is that we should have as good relations with Russia as possible, though not on the basis of some fanciful, non-existent “Muslim Threat”. We should just treat them with all due respect. That excludes “gas station” remarks of the kind which recently emanated from John McCain.

    God knows what’s happening in Ukraine, but it is all very dangerous, too many people have already been killed and it is all totally unnecessary. Russia, I feel, is more sinned against than sinning in this case. They didn’t pick this fight, though whatever happens in the short term, in the long term they are going to win it.

  105. RD, biological evolution happens without a guiding hand. The environment, however, constrains the possibilities of what exactly can “happen”.

    But to reduce it to its elements, evolution involves change (random mutations in nature, intelligent design in man-made systems), a test of performance, an elimination of competition and a consolidation of change by reproduction and propagation.

    The statement “Evolution is not about anything”, simply means that evolution is not an invention or prescription that conforms with an ideology, it is a description of a natural process which “just happens”. You can describe that process at any level that you wish if you are not satisfied with it “just happening”. But be sure that with or without your knowledge and/or approval, it will “just happen” anyway.

  106. ‘anyone with half a brain would realise that there is a lot more human biodiversity in European nations than used to be the case’

    One consequence being that Europe can boast of 8 athletes on this list, although only one of them is ethnically ‘European’. In fact 88 out of the 90 men listed here are either mainly or entirely of West African origin.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-second_barrier

  107. @RD

    Garbage – anyone with half a brain would realise that there is a lot more human biodiversity in European nations than used to be the case – and jolly good thing too.

    Biodiversity results from isolation of populations that diverge over time in response to differences among them in selective pressures and as a consequence of random mutations, genetic drift and other factors. If you take diverse populations long separated by barriers of geography, politics, class or caste and mix them together you create, over time, an increasingly uniform mongrel race lacking the diversity evident among the original populations, which is to say that you destroy diversity.

    To take an obvious example, instead of white brown, yellow, red and black, all fine colors, you have a more or less uniform khaki pigmentation. You will also get some pretty weird combinations of physical features, some good some not so good. In my opinion, the most attractive features are to be seen among those from long inbred societies, for example, a Vietnamese girl’s beautiful nose (what a tragedy to marry that with a Greek or Jewish Schnozz).

    The English were a somewhat mongrel race even before the recent mass influx of aliens, which perhaps explains why so few of them are really good looking. But I wrote about this elsewhere (In Praise of Diversity) so no need to go on about it here.

    I could, following your lead, add some comments about your half-brainedness, the probably deficiencies of your education, etc., etc., but I am not so unsure of my argument as to resort to such gratuitous insolence.

  108. CanSpeccy, 24 Apr 7:08 pm:

    “I was talking of the destruction of human biodiversity through the destruction of the European nations.”

    and

    “advocating policies that destroy human biodiversity.”

    Alfred, if people choose to have few or no children, that is their own business, not yours. Likewise if they engage in recreational, non-reproductive sexual activities; it’s no more your business than it is the Pope’s. Faster breeding by some groups does not decrease the biodiversity of other groups that breed more slowly.

    After millennia of relative stability the human population has quadrupled in just over a century (I’ve seen it double in my lifetime) so presumably there is somewhat more human biodiversity than in the past. Natural genetic mutation only increases the gene pool at a modest rate. Mutation due to pollution (radioactive isotopes and chemical mutagens) has presumably increased that rate; the “globalist empire” you mention has presumably increased such pollution and thereby accelerated the increase of the gene pool, so perhaps you should write and thank them.

    Personally I’ve chosen not to have children because the alarming population rise suggests that a population crash is likely, and I’d rather not bear personal responsibility for subjecting any offspring to starvation, disease or combat over resources.

    “…having graduated in biology with first class honors and the Faculty Prize from a decent English University,”

    So I shouldn’t have to have given you the lecture above. What happened to your beautiful mind? Or did you cheat? I’m pretty sure you used to click the +1 button on your own comments here before IntenseDebate was uninstalled.

  109. One consequence being that Europe can boast of 8 athletes on this list,

    Yes, that is undoubtedly one of the reasons the UK elite promote mass immigration. For any role or function in society, including athletic competition, you will almost certainly find a prospective immigrant better qualified than any indigenous Brit.

    Britain’s ruling elite have decided to import a better population than the one they started with. But that exposes the deeply anti-democratic tendency of the New World Order and its Blairite/Cameroonian/Murrayite promoters.

    The policy also ignores what happens in generations two, three, etc. The hybrid population will not have the range of special talents that the original immigrant population had. There is reversion to the mean among the children of those of superior talent and there is disruption of particular gene associations that make for superior speed, or strength or mathematical or verbal ability (the last two being among talents for which the English have in the past been distinguished).

  110. if people choose to have few or no children, that is their own business, not yours

    Who said otherwise? Certainly not I. If you are referring to my comment about promotion of non-reproductive sex, that is another matter altogether. That is a question of government seeking to control individual choice through brainwashing, something of which you evidently approve, but I do not.

    And like a good liberal-leftie, I see you cannot resist adding some punch to your feeble argument with a raft of insults. I guess that should make me feel good since it surely indicates that even you can see the weakness of your own case.

  111. CanSpeccy, 1:51 am

    “If you take diverse populations long separated by barriers of geography, politics, class or caste and mix them together you create, over time, an increasingly uniform population lacking the diversity evident among the original populations, which is to say that you destroy diversity” [My edit to remove pejorative terms]

    Not if the populations are free to move – which is exactly what you are opposing. I hope your hypocrisy is accidental.

    I suppose your assertion may be true in experiments, where the environment and thus selection pressures are artificially restricted. But breeding between diverse populations does not reduce the gene pool. Those genetic alternatives persist within the population, where they will be available to respond to varying selection pressures in diverse environments.

    Canspeccy, nature is cleverer that the eugenicists were. That’s why they all but disappeared.

  112. CanSpeccy, 2:12 am:

    “…promotion of non-reproductive sex [is the] government seeking to control individual choice through brainwashing,”

    What exactly are you hinting at? It look suspiciously unpleasant, and I’ve only heard of one case of legal action for allegedly improper use of condoms.

  113. Canspeccy,

    Ugly ugly ugly worldview fella.

    Go find the love and compassion you in your life so obviously lack.

  114. I’m not sure Blair is “hate-filled”. Hateful, perhaps. Selfish and driven for sure. Driven by ego and a desire for self-enrichment.

    I don’t think he really believes in the politics of hate that he uses. He’d say the exact opposite if he thought it would get him where he wanted to be. Which perhaps makes him even more hateful than the hate-filled zealot who actually believes in the shit that he preaches.

  115. Fifty nine percent of the UK public believes that fewer than 10,000 Iraqis died as a result of the Iraq War – a very extensively covered war.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/04/poll-deaths-iraq-ignored-media

    Professional polls have found the same stunning level of public ignorance in the USA.
    http://www.spinwatch.org/index.php/issues/war-and-foreign-policy/item/5468-media-communication-and-the-consequences-of-war-counting-the-casualties-in-Iraq

    Where does the fault lie? With the people themselves or with the corporate mainstream media who carry the warmongers’ messages and spin?

  116. Interesting that the “journalist” (?) kidnapped by the nationalists in eastern Ukraine as being suspicious has dual US-Israeli citizenship. Another mega mmmmm!

    US journalist released by pro-Russian gunmen in Ukraine, Vice confirms
    Simon Ostrovsky was held hostage in eastern Ukraine by armed separatists, who accused him of spying for enemy groups
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/24/us-journalist-simon-ostrovsky-released-ukraine

    Murdoch has a 5% stake in VICE for whom Ostrovsky works.
    http://www.vice.com/en_uk

  117. The abuse levelled at fellow scientist, CanSpeccy, for daring to DESCRIBE phenomena rather than PRESCRIBE some emotional dispositions and PROSCRIBE other ones, is the typical form of this blog’s commentators who demand that a political declaration is attached to every single idea expressed under penalty of personal abuse for non-compliance. It’s a bit like being required to give the ‘Roman Salute’ every time you enter the room.

    CanSpeccy is entirely correct in relation to his description of biodiversity being a PRODUCT of isolation and not one of integration. Isolation gives minor differences an opportunity to amplify rather than diminish under pressure of overwhelming competition which has a tendency to eliminate differences that fail to propagate.

    We can extend these observations, without resorting to name calling, to culture. Does anybody have the courage to champion the aggressive march of Anglo-US culture across the globe? Anyone happy to see cultural barriers erode to allow Asian and African teenagers in shitty parts of the world to clothe themselves in Levis, wearable US flags and corporate logos while listening to hip hop on their iPlods? Anybody happy to surrender their language with its embedded cultural history to a uniform American version? Should we send them to ‘gaol’ or ‘jail’?

    There seems to be some confusion as to what “diversity” means. How about difference vs volume? Making superficial or minor changes to large populations does not give you diversity. So multiplying a single pasty, curry-eating Brit by 10 million doesn’t give you multiculturalism.

    Thanks to the erosion of barriers that once prevented rapid, large scale migration of people throughout the world, we have seen the extinction of many different types of plants, animals and humans. The Floresian Hobbits, by virtue of ISOLATION, evolved as a distinct species of human. Unfortunately, their much larger and more powerful cousins invaded and wiped them out.

    I could go on and on about European colonisation that has seen the genocide of unique variants of humans like the Aboriginal people of Tasmania and their pet Tasmanian Tigers. But who cares? The brain-dead followers of the false Gods of multiculturalism and multiracialism cannot be touched by the hand of calm reason.

  118. “Interesting that the “journalist” (?) kidnapped by the nationalists in eastern Ukraine as being suspicious has dual US-Israeli citizenship. Another mega mmmmm!”

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    It certainly makes you think, Mary.

  119. I know Simon Ostrovsky. From my limited acquaintance he seems a very decent person.

  120. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:41 am

    A final note though, the wee Village of Ellenabeich, is a wonderful place… we sat oot under the Black Starry sky.. listening to the music of big Atlantic Rollers… And a wee dram of course…. Bliss man. (Brian)

    I know the place well. Lived for a long time nearby, and have sat on slaty beaches getting gently pished many times. Glad you like. Re. C. John, glad you don’t like. But he made enough out of his coach-party crap – a – thon to spend most of the year on a cruise liner… MORAL: never overestimate the intelligence of the average punter, and outsource your horrible ceramic goods to Korea. :-)

  121. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    25 Apr, 2014 - 10:10 am

    Garbage – anyone with half a brain would realise that there is a lot more human biodiversity in European nations than used to be the case – and jolly good thing too. (Res Diss)

    Anyone with a whole brain would require some numbers in support of that. And maybe a definition of “European nations”.

    the second sentence contradicts the first, and although I am not a trained biologist I’m pretty sure that Darwin didn’t say that evolution juts happens – are you sure that your English university was that decent, or perpahs you have just forgot what you were taught.

    Jemand has dealt with that in sufficient detail to confirm that he went to a decent university and hasn’t forgotten much. But what Darwin said is no longer the sole criterion – if it ever was – for our understanding of evolutionary dynamics. This is not a question of “The Origin of Species” vs. The Holy Bible. It’s about observable phenomena and their parsimonious interpretation. Which in this case leads to the conclusion that as there is no observable purpose or direction to evolution other than that imposed by the environment of the organism, it’s something that just happens. Hope that’s about right, Jemand.

  122. I don’t know Simon Ostrovsky. I know the CIA pays journalists as agents. But that does not make him an agent. And I am glad he is free. There are too many people who are held without charge all over the world, and the UK is as culpable as any in this respect.

    If Simon Ostrovsky is a descendant of the great Russian playwright Alexander Ostrovsky his literary pedigree is from the best stock. Ostrovsky wrote among other plays a version of Snegurochka, an old Russian folk tale about a snow girl. I used the Ostrovsky idea of the birth of Snegurochka for a musical called appropriately ‘Snegurochka – Snowgirl’ which was staged Christmas 2006 at the Library Theatre, Birmingham. Dan Rodger wrote some of the music but we also used music from Tchaikovsky, Vivaldi’s themes for winter and spring and folk music from the great Irish composer and blind harpist, Ferlough O’Carolan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX-I11_yC1c

    Ostovsky created the idea that Snegurochka was born out of a union between Grandfather Frost and Mother Spring which I thought was the best of the stories about her origin. Tchaikovsky and Rimsky Korsakov were also inspired by Ostrovsky’s lyrics.

  123. BZ, yeah that’s about right. But we might also say that the complexity of evolutionary dynamics is probably more like a Mandelbrot function where aggregated simple processes are repeated and permutated at different scales to form complex subsystems within larger systems. Studying these systems at any scale reveals interesting similarities.

    Systemic contraints act as filters to produce competetive outcomes. If a system has no constraints (ie unlimited resources) then that would eliminate competition, radical diversity and eventually all diversity. But such a system is impossible because a system is inherently defined by its constraints and in the absence of constraints there would be pure chaos, not order/structure.

    In the case of cultural and ethnic diversity, constraints are necessary in order to preserve attributes that are vulnerable to domination and eventual elimination. See how the French are trying to preserve their national language against a global trend towards adopting (American) English as the world’s lingua-franca. Bloody French.

    Anyway, that’s my two pennies.

  124. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    25 Apr, 2014 - 12:06 pm

    Glad you mentioned Mandelbrot, Jemand. When I got keenly interested in the dynamics of evolution (at a decent English university), chaos (in the self-organising system sense) was not so well recognised as a useful descriptor, and like most conventional economists, writers on palaeoevolution were still looking for cycles. They found them of course…Milankovich and the rest are visible in the fossil record…but just as in economics, the base model has to accomodate multiple independent variables and sensitive dependence on initial conditions; and the power spectra of origination/extinction time series definitely have fractal dimensions. So, yes.

  125. Ba'al Zevul (Dark Artist)

    25 Apr, 2014 - 1:56 pm

    It was Mandelbot, I’d add, maybe unnecessarily, who analysed cotton prices in the US and found that they were scaling. More recently he found financial data could be more generally described in terms of multifractals. Very pretty multifractal here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multifractal_system

    A comparable non multi- fractal would give simple spirals

  126. BZ, thanks for the link.

  127. Canspeccy, nature is cleverer that the eugenicists were. That’s why they all but disappeared.

    No Clark, the eugenicists are alive and well busy destroying the nation state, a racial, cultural and religious aggregation of humanity that is the chief obstacle to global control by the plutocratic elite. Craig and his acolytes are among their many mouthpieces.

  128. CanSpeccy, 4:56 pm: excellent paper; thanks. I still don’t think that the Vietnamese should be confined to Vietnam, or even excluded from England, in an attempt to preserve your favourite shape of young women’s noses.

  129. Clark, You’re referring to “The network of global corporate control” ?

    Anyhow, I’m glad we agree about something.

    The charm of the Vietnamese female nose, was actually pointed out to me by a Vietnamese girl — a claim with which, on reflection, I felt compelled to agree.

    But that minority of Brits who want to live in a society of high human diversity should consider migrating to Canada or Australia or Florida where they will find an irreversibly multi-racial society, albeit well on its way to homogenization.

    But by seeking to impose on the English a eugenic program of racial miscegenation that a huge majority of the population opposes, you are seeking to destroy one of the founts of diversity upon which a diverse society must depend for constant renewal.

  130. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:08 pm

    Canspeccy/Jemand

    My point was about their being much more human biodiversity within European nations which is something I stand by – and I don’t believe it is destroying those nations in fact on the whole it is a force for good. Opening peoples brains up to other competing ideas is on the whole a good thing – and is the way societies and cultures have progressed in the past – and I should add that isolated mono cultures don’t score particularly well on that score. That is not to say that all competing ideas and cultures are good – I am no supporter of fundamental Islamism or any other religious fundamentalists for that matter, but again history shows that such tendencies are exposed and ultimately ameliorated by exposure to other cultures and that isolation often has the opposite effect.

    I can take your point that there will be greater biological diversity if we all split into small individual nations and never seek to cross contaminate our DNA and cultures – but I think perhaps you ought to think as to what purpose such bio-diversity would be put if we are all sitting on our individual islands just knowing that the rest of the world is full of interesting and different people, that the racial purists will not let us go out and mingle with.

    As someone who lives in a mixed nationality family I can say without a shadow of doubt that being able to draw on two cultures is actually something that is enriching and stimulating, especially for our “mongrel” children (please don’t lecture me on insulting language again Canspeccy when you throw around insulting terms like that – you really serve all you get and some more). I should also add that there is a substantial body of research pointing to mixed races being more intelligent and better looking.

  131. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:10 pm

    Canspeccy

    You clearly don’t know you are talking about if you think Craig is a mouthpiece of the plutocratic elite.

  132. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:19 pm

    And as to defending our national culture and heritage I think Canspeccy would do well to read the Lion and the Unicorn were Orwell, who was a fierce defender of national culture, made the point that such cultures are not static things frozen in aspic and are in fact constantly changing and improving. Anyone for a spot of bull baiting after archery practice?

  133. Canspeccy

    You clearly don’t know you are talking about if you think Craig is a mouthpiece of the plutocratic elite.

    Craig Murray is a globalist, or at least an advocate of the destruction of the nation state as an racial, cultural and religious community. That is the necessary prerequisite for the establishment of a global system of governance by unelected bodies such as the WTO, the UN, Nato, the EU, etc. That is the goal of the plutocratic elite, who wish to impose their rules on the world without obstruction by democratic governments serving the interests of the goddam people.

    Of course cultures are not static. But when the state represses the reproduction by the indigenous people, funds the abortion of hundreds of thousands of indigenous children (Muslim immigrants are indoctrinated not to kill their own childred) every year — at least two million in the last decade — then more than making up the deficit in population by importing millions of young philoprogenitive people of a different race, culture and religion it is:

    a. committing racial genocide. Replacing most of the indigenous population by people from elsewhere.

    b. committing cultural genocide. Replacing the indigenous culture with something totally alien.

    c. trashing the national religion, allowing the conversion of Christian churches to mosques, eliminating Christian teaching in schools, etc.

    What’s fascinating about this place is the number of apparent fanatic haters of the of the English who will insult anyone who mentions what mass immigration, legally enforced political correctness and promotion of multiculturalism are doing to destroy the English as a nation.

  134. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 10:56 pm

    “Craig Murray is a globalist, or at least an advocate of the destruction of the nation state as an racial, cultural and religious community.”

    Currently hiding under his kilt as a Scottish Nationalist – I think perhaps you should let Craig speak for himself

    “What’s fascinating about this place is the number of apparent fanatic haters of the of the English who will insult anyone who mentions what mass immigration, legally enforced political correctness and promotion of multiculturalism are doing to destroy the English as a nation.”

    What’s not so fascinating about you is how you refuse to accept that most people here do not accept the basic racist premise on which you base your whole flimsy philosophy – and how ridiculous you make yourself continuing to repeat your neo Nazi garbage. There are many things on which contributors here are not united – you are not one of those things.

  135. Canspeccy,

    “But when the state represses the reproduction by the indigenous people…”

    Good Lord Canspeccy…you’ve truly lost the plot now.

    Remember to visit your GP to get your meds topped up yeah?

    What a disturbed zoomer you are.

  136. Remember to visit your GP

    Evidently I have won the argument hands down, since the critics can only sneer, incapable apparently of dealing with the simple arithmetic of English national genocide through the combination of a suppressed indigenous birthrate and mass immigration.

  137. RD,

    you call me a racist without defining the term. But since you can have identified me as a what you call a racist only on the basis of what I have said here, your idea of a racist must be a person opposed to the genocide of their own people. To that I am happy to confess. I would have thought, however, that it would be more in keeping with common usage to consider an advocate of genocide, such as yourself, to be racist, rather than the other way around.

  138. Interesting to see another piece on Blair last night/this morning in the (Ha Ha) Indy. No comments allowed this time, after the stuffing that occurred with the last one a few days ago.

  139. CanSpeccy – It’s reasonable enough to say that increased immigration (mostly due to new transport technologies and massive inequalities of wealth within and between countries) is likely to reduce human biodiversity.

    It’s something very different and wildly at variance with the facts to claim that this is genocide.

    It’s even less credible to claim that immigration policy of UK governments is a policy of genocide against white British people. UK governments , Labour and Tory, have in fact had extremely harsh immigration policies with forced deportations back to countries where the deportees faced serious risks of torture or death (Zimbabwe, Iraq, Afghanistan etc).

  140. Spanish judge defies pressure to scrap Guantanamo torture case against Bush
    By Agence France-Presse
    April 15, 2014

    A Spanish judge on Tuesday defied pressure to scrap a probe into alleged torture in the U.S. prison camp in Guantanamo Bay which targets former U.S. president George W. Bush.
    Judge Pablo Ruz at the National Court, in a written decision, refused to scrap the case despite a recent reform to restrict such human rights probes in Spain.

    He also vowed to press on with two other investigations into alleged genocide in the former Spanish colony of Western Sahara from the 1970s.

    Ruz opened the investigations under universal jurisdiction — a principle that allows judges to try certain atrocities committed in other countries.

    Spain’s parliament, dominated by the conservative ruling Popular Party, last month passed a government reform to restrict courts’ powers to apply universal jurisdiction.

    That reform came after a lawsuit alleging atrocities by Chinese leaders in Tibet, which annoyed China, a major trading partner of Spain.

    Rights groups have criticised the reform, saying it puts economic and diplomatic interests before human rights.

    The Spanish courts agreed in 2009 to probe charges brought by four ex-Guantanamo detainees who say they were tortured during their detention in the camp between 2002 and 2005.

    Among those cited in the charges are Bush, US former vice president Dick Cheney and ex-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

    The new law says courts in Spain can only probe atrocities committed abroad if the suspects are Spanish.

    But Ruz said in Tuesday’s judgement that Spain had an “obligation” under international treaties to investigate alleged atrocities even if the suspects were not Spanish.

    In one of the two other cases, plaintiffs accuse Moroccan authorities of genocide in Western Sahara, a disputed region annexed by Morocco in the late 1970s.

    The third case alleges genocide in Western Sahara by the Polisario Front, a pro-independence force in the region.

    Ruz said he could investigate those allegations on the grounds that Western Sahara was a Spanish territory at the time.

    Morocco’s annexation of Western Sahara was never recognised internationally.
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/15/spanish-judge-defies-pressure-to-scrap-guantanamo-torture-case-against-bush/

    ~~

    I see another country like the UK is having its universal jurisdiction legislation weakened or even abolished if the powers-that-be have their way.

  141. Resident Dissident

    26 Apr, 2014 - 6:31 pm

    Canspeccy

    Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

    Yep the cap fits

    “common usage to consider an advocate of genocide, such as yourself,”

    really beneath contempt

  142. It’s something very different and wildly at variance with the facts…

    Why is it, Duncan, you remind me so much of that amazing US State Department Spokeswoman insisting that “the facts are the facts are the facts”? LOL

    Your earlier claim that Lemkin’s definition of genocide does not fit the facts in England because the English are still free to speak their ignores the obvious fact that English happens to be the language of the globalist system that Britain is being subjugated to. Moreover, there is a difference between permitted language use in Britain today and the language of the common people of England: the English spoken in England today must be politically correct, and that is enforced by law and or administrative means for the use of such formerly common terms such as “niggardly,” or even, for God’ sake, “nitty-gritty.” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm).

  143. RD

    You express yourself the same way as Duncan: “you’re a racist and that’s a fact, it’s a fact, it’s a fact.”

    Why not try to use your brain instead of resorting to endless Jives-like mendacity and prevarication.

  144. Duncan McFarlane, 3:03 pm; I don’t think it is “reasonable enough to say that increased immigration […] is likely to reduce human biodiversity”. I don’t see how breeding between populations could decrease the gene pool.

    I think it might depend upon how one measures “biodiversity”. If population A breeds with population B, so-many generations later you’ll no longer find that the descendants tend to fall into the two groups “A-like” and “B-like”; there will be a continuum instead. But if you measure a broad set of attributes such as nose length, eye colour, kidney function, height, etc. etc., you’ll find just as much or possibly more variation, compared to the total in the two original groups A and B considered together.

  145. CanSpeccy, 25th April 2:12 am:

    “…promotion of non-reproductive sex [is the] government seeking to control individual choice through brainwashing,”

    What exactly do you mean by this?

  146. Resident Dissident

    27 Apr, 2014 - 8:09 am

    Clark

    Canspeccy may well be right on biodiversity, especially if he wants to see each race consigned to their own specified Galapagos Islands (or equivalent) and he clearly places some races in superiority and inferiority to others. Where he is very wrong is in that he places what he wishes to see biodiversity as being the primary driver as to how we should organise our affairs within nation states i.e. he clearly sees that nations should be defined by race – and hence anything that changes the mix within a nation amounts to genocide of that race. He clearly doesn’t understand or denies that racial mixing, which happens in most nations, actually adds to cultural and intellectual diversity – his is not an argument about the strain that an acceleration in the rate of change in immigration might place on a nation’s infrastructure but one about whether it should happen in the first place. He will of course deny it, but his style of thinking does bear an awful lot of similarity to that of the racial purity thinking of the Nazis – and which of course is why Churchill is something of hate figure in some of his past rantings.

  147. Resident Dissident, 8:09 am

    “Canspeccy may well be right on biodiversity”

    Why do you accept this? I know Jemand agreed, but so far I’ve seen only these assertions. No evidence or logical argument has been presented, and logically it seems wrong to me. I see no mechanism whereby mixing of groups could reduce the diversity of the gene pool. Restricting the available environment could do it over time, by reducing the diversity of selection pressures. But so long as the mixed populations have access to the sum of their environments before mixing, how could the diversity in the gene pool be decreased by mixing?

  148. It just doesn’t reflect the way genetic inheritance works. Brown-eyed, blue-eyed and green-eyed people interbreed freely, as do dark haired, light haired and red haired people, but we don’t end up with uniform eye or hair colour. It’s not like putting milk in coffee; it works on different principles.

  149. Actually, if we examine milky coffee at the level of the constituent particulates, we can still tell the difference between the milk solids, the coffee components and the water molecules. The “uniformity” is only apparent, an effect of observing from a macroscopic scale, with thermal energy keeping it all in motion.

  150. Resident Dissident, 8:09 am

    “…he clearly places some races in superiority and inferiority to others”

    I think this may be unfair to Canspeccy; I don’t see anywhere that he’s expressed such value judgements. However:

    “…his style of thinking does bear an awful lot of similarity to that of the racial purity thinking of the Nazis”

    Yes; the same mistake about genetic inheritance, but a roughly opposing objective; the Nazis wanted the “Aryans” to be “the Master Race”, whereas Canspeccy seems to think that without clearly definable racial groups, humanity is vulnerable to takeover by some group he calls the “plutocratic elite”, whoever they are.

  151. Resident Dissident

    27 Apr, 2014 - 8:48 pm

    Clark

    Anyone who claims Emma West’s real offence is just claiming England for the English is a racist in my book

    http://canspeccy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/my-britain-is-fuck-all-now.html

  152. Clark,

    I’m glad you’re beginning to think about what mass immigration means as a biological phenomenon, rather than just sloganeering about it like RD and Jives.

    It is true that if there is indiscriminate interbreeding among two or more races, you will have a gene pool of greater allelic diversity than that of any of the original races, but you will lose the phenotypic diversity of the original races. That is because you break up the unique concentrations of particular alleles that determine the dominant skull forms, proportions of fast muscle, lung capacity, and all the many other characteristics, obvious and obscure that define each race.

    Thus, as I stated above, you have to understand what happens “…in generations two, three, etc. The hybrid population will not have the range of special talents that the original immigrant population had. There is reversion to the mean among the children of those of superior talent and there is disruption of particular gene associations that make for superior speed, or strength or mathematical or verbal ability (the last two being among talents for which the English have in the past been distinguished).”

    There will also be selective events that begin to narrow down the gene pool. For example, religious faiths affect fertility and certain of the original races will outbreed others, as is evident now when the indigenous British have a below replacement fertility, whereas Bangladeshi women in Britain have a fertility around twice that of the indigenous British and higher even than that of women in Bangladesh.

    There are many such factors affecting the relative fertility of different groups and types, some of which are obvious, whereas many are subtle and little understood. But in any case, you will have, after a rather small number of generations, a relatively homogeneous population, which is different from any of the original races. The racial melting pot thus destroys the human diversity that has evolved over tens of thousands of years and which can never be recreated in historical time.

    But the reason that the promotion of mass immigration should be considered equivalent to treason is that it destroys the posterity of the native born. Man is a territorial species. If you fill the space with aliens there is less room for the native population and their descendants. So although the population may remain the same, the inclusive fitness of the native population will be reduced. In London, Leicester, Luton and Slough the indigenous British can look forward to very little in the way of posterity. This is genocide by stealth.

  153. Resident Dissident

    27 Apr, 2014 - 10:58 pm

    “But the reason that the promotion of mass immigration should be considered equivalent to treason is that it destroys the posterity of the native born.”

    So I’ve committed treason by marrying someone from a foreign race by destroying the posterity of the British nation, and especially my Yorkshire ancestry going back for many generations – yes of course I should have only married a true British girl – one people, one nation as they used to say.

    Of course we need to place phenotypic diversity above all other forms of diversity such as cultural and intellectual. And of course environmental influences can have no impact on phenotypic characteristics in this particular brand of science.

  154. Resident Dissident

    27 Apr, 2014 - 11:06 pm

    The racial melting pot thus destroys the human diversity that has evolved over tens of thousands of years and which can never be recreated in historical time.

    Even if this were true – perhaps you might also wish to consider the benefits that it gives before reaching your conclusion that this is a bad thing. Rather poor science to look at a single factor in isolation before reaching a conclusion I would say – but then I don’t believe that science is what is driving your judgement in this matter.

  155. So I’ve committed treason by marrying someone

    Don’t be an idiot. Try instead to use your brains, such as they are. Marrying someone is not promoting a policy implemented by law.

    Even if this were true – perhaps you might also wish to consider the benefits

    I’m glad you are beginning to see that what I asserted was factually correct.

    whereas Canspeccy seems to think that without clearly definable racial groups

    Primarily, I’m opposed to the genocide of the English. For RD to equate that with Nazism is simple stupidity or mendacity, as his qualified acknowledgement “even if this were true” confirms.

    The sad thing is that you have vehemently held opinions based on near total ignorance of what you speak.

    As to my thinking humanity is vulnerable to takeover by some group he calls the “plutocratic elite”, whoever they are.

    Are you willfully stupid? I gave you a link above to an X-archiv paper that made quite clear who the plutocratic elite are. Now you claim not to know who I am referring too.

    God, why don’t you read some history and use your brains? Do you think that shits like Sheldon Adelson (look him up) who buy American elections for tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, or banks like JP Morgan who paid off Blair after his retirement from office (read about JP Morgan’s role in establishing the Council on Foreign Relations and the connection of the latter with Cecil Rhodes, and various bankers), give a shit about the ignoramus members of the public like you? They are the plutocratic elite, they have immense personal fortunes and control even vaster aggregations of capital and corporate power.

    Democracy is a fraud controlled by the elite and all your drivel about racism and the wonders of diversity is mere propaganda that drives the plutocratic agenda, which is for global governance via undemocratic global institutions such as CM’s beloved EU, the UN the WTO and many others. The main obstacle to globalization is the nation state and it must be destroyed. Scotch nationalism serves that purpose because it brings about the destruction of the United Kingdom into components more easily managed and if necessary coerced to serve the globalist, plutocratic elite.

  156. Oh, and you asked, Clark, about what I meant by government promotion of non-reproductive sex. Well what’s hard to grasp about that:

    Oral sex lessons to cut rates of teenage pregnancy

    And one could list many more examples. But I’m not here to teach remedial social science.

  157. CanSpeccy, 27 Apr, 10:10 pm;, no, it is you that thinks you’re thinking “about what mass immigration means as a biological phenomenon”; I’m just thinking of populations and characteristics.

    Your reasoning seems circular. You’re defining “race” as certain groupings of characteristics, swapping those characteristics between your arbitrarily defined groups, and then asserting that the lack of these groupings in the descendants is a loss of diversity.

    But the “race” groupings were arbitrary to start with. New arbitrary groupings of characteristics could be defined that would exhibit just as much “diversity” as was seen between the original groups called “races”, so long as you define enough groups. No diversity of characteristics has been lost; it hasn’t changed.

    You claim there will be “a regression towards the mean”. You are taking the piss, aren’t you? “Although extreme individual measurements regress toward the mean, the second sample of measurements will be no closer to the mean than the first”.

    You wrote: “There will also be selective events that begin to narrow down the gene pool”, and then wrote of a shrinking population. Isn’t this called a “genetic bottleneck”, and isn’t it quantifiable? It must have been looked into regarding endangered species. It really only applies to a closed gene-pool, but populations of countries are typically orders of magnitude bigger than the threshold at which the gene pool would begin to contract, aren’t they?

    You nevertheless manage to use this supposedly scientific argument to yet again mention “mass immigration”, “indiscriminate interbreeding”, “aliens”, “melting pot”, and “will outbreed others”, all well known triggers for xenophobia.

    My impression is that you’re using pseudo-science to push a racist agenda, whilst hiding behind an “I’m not racist” Vietnamese Pinocchio’s nose. Not so surprising seeing as you’ve done it before:

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/07/the_ethics_of_b/comment-page-2/#comment-294700

  158. Canspeccy, your objection to the sex education course described in the Guardian article you linked suggests that you may be in favour of under-sixteens getting pregnant!

    My objection to your Guardian article is the blatant sensationalist spin:

    Encouraging schoolchildren to experiment with oral sex could prove the most effective way of curbing teenage pregnancy rates, a government study has found.

    Those behind the course stress the scheme does not suggest teenagers experiment with oral sex.

  159. Canspeccy, but thanks again for the paper about corporate power. Yes, Rhodes, the Milner Group, covert power, etc.. Much greater transparency is necessary.

    But eventually, ideally, people in general should be free to move about throughout the world, and the current flows of immigration are a natural reaction to economic inequalities. Diverse cultural development requires peace and stability, all of which require much broader economic equality.

  160. the sex education course described in the Guardian article you linked suggests that you may be in favour of under-sixteens getting pregnant!

    That was an important component of the British way or reproduction.

    In the 1950’s, something like one third of all children were conceived out of wedlock and about a fifth were born out of wedlock (among the common folk, abortion was in those days a rare expedient.) The pattern was not a peculiarity of a brief historical era, but dates back through the centuries, as Shakespeare recorded:

    Between the acres of the rye,
    With a hey, and a ho, and a hey nonino,
    Those pretty country folks would lie,
    In springtime, the only pretty ring time,
    When birds do sing, hey ding a ding, ding;
    Sweet lovers love the spring.

    etc.

    So, yes, one can be certain that the indigenous people of Britain have a below replacement fertility because of the influence of state enforced (i.e., school) sex education, state-funded abortion and pro-abortion propaganda, and anti-life environmentalist propaganda (also largely state funded), much of it based on false or distorted information that conceals the fact that the Western nations are experiencing a population implosion combined with an influx of immigrants that will wipe out the natives as majorities, and in some cases even as significant minorities, in their own homelands.

    A declining population without mass immigration might, for a while, be beneficial. It would greatly reduce the cost of housing, result in lower taxes because of an end to the construction of expanded infra-structure (maternity hospitals, schools, universities, roads, water works, etc.), and raise wages, particularly among the least competent members of society, due to the lack of immigrant competition. In time the improved conditions of life would tend to revive the birthrate and establish something like a new equilibrium population at a level lower than before.

  161. ideally, people in general should be free to move about throughout the world

    This is an anti-democratic sentiment. Most people in Britain, something like 70%, do not agree that such freedom of movement should trump the right of the state acting on behalf of the people to control national borders and limit immigration.

  162. CanSpeccy,

    “…in Britain, something like 70%…”

    Do you know those figures for other countries, and particularly how they’ve been changing in recent years? If you do, please post a few, with significant context if necessary like questions asked or skewed samples.

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