Bilderberg – Why Don’t You Write Me a Letter to Brighten My Loneliest Evening? 65


Someone has written me a letter about Bilderberg

http://thetruthserumblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/open-letter-to-craig-murray-and-michael.html

My own view is that those who get overly worried about rich and powerful people meeting to forward their common interest, need to chill out. Of course they do that. It’s just like Davos with added cachet from the thrill of being “secret”. If it were public, I don’t doubt you would find it’s just as banal.

Everything is not directed by Bilderberg, Freemasons, Illuminati, the Federal Reserve, the Rothschilds, the Prieure of Sion or any other grouping. Do the rich and powerful heavily influence western governments? Of course. Do they cabal in various ways? Of course. Is there a hidden force behind everything, a secret world government? No.


65 thoughts on “Bilderberg – Why Don’t You Write Me a Letter to Brighten My Loneliest Evening?

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  • david

    He he he ho ho ho, and we all live in a computer generated matrix……..

    The wonderful thing about conspiricy theory is that they always over look the one basic fact of human nature that renders then unlikley in the extreme.

    People just cant keep their mouths shut !

    Ok so a very small group maybe able to. but over time loyalties change and people change. Most of these theorys would require 100’s of people to keep schtum. Simply never happens.

  • Agent of the Illuminati

    muwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • fluellen

    “I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power.” Philip K Dick said that.

    “But Phil, power is their motive.” I said that.

  • Control

    Craig,

    Agree with you re Bildeberg – but on a related matter do you know much about or have anythoughts on the Wikileaks website? Or the website and its potential importance in changing Uzbekistan

    http://www.wikileaks.org

    http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Uzbekistan

    Given your history it would seem natural that you would be a big supporter. Do you think that all information should be free?

    It seems to be that Wikileaks is potentially revolutionary and save a few write ups in the Sunday papers I have seen little comment elsewhere.

    With the recent apparent outing of the individual who leaked the ‘Collateral Murder’ video from Iraq (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/) I think this is a really interesting question and would be interested in your thoughts.

    -Control

  • MJ

    “Is there a hidden force behind everything, a secret world government? No”.

    Not quite yet.

  • StefZ

    Bildeberg is just one of many fruity little elitist clubs and I’ve personally not seen any evidence that this particular fruity little club runs any of the others

    Elitists and oligarchs share common interests, common backgrounds and common objectives. Even if none of these clubs existed those oligarchs would still behave in a similar way because they think in a similar way

    Having said that, premeditated criminal conspiracies do exist, and always have, but they are just a manifestation, not a cause, of mutual self-interest

  • Vronsky

    Does 1+1 = 2? Of course!

    Does 2+2 = 4? Of course!

    Does 3+3 = 6? Of course!

    Does 4+4 = 8? Uh – hmmm…

  • Freeborn

    Bilderberger is the spelling.

    You must be confusing it with the cake with squares in it!

    More astute observers know Bilderberger picks Presidents,Prime Ministers,fixes oil prices,decides which economies need taking down and where and when wars will be fought.

    Just small beer really!

    For those not so blindly trusting of such cuddly elites as those who meet at Bilderberger go to sites like Tony Gosling’s.He’s a seasoned British expert on the Group and the site is the perfect research tool.

    The Tragedy and Hope site set up by 911 whistle-blower Richard Grove is a subscription site but well worth the money.Fabulous research base too.

    For an outstanding introduction to the topic go to The Corbett Report he has at least one downloadable podcast.

    Alternatively sit on your arse and let left-gatekeepers like Craig tell you Bilderberger is of no consequence whatever.

    It’s a lot easier because if you find out what you’re not supposed to know and try to spread the word your comments will probably be deleted!

    LOL!

  • Anonymous

    ‘Do the rich and powerful heavily influence western governments? Of course.’

    The rich and powerful are in charge of western governments. The word ‘influence’ does not come into it.

  • StefZ

    according the veteran Bilderloons such a Jim Tucker and Daniel Estulin, one of the topics for discussion this year is the collapse of the Euro. The Bilderbergers are apparently concerned that their single currency project is coming off the rails

    which begs the question if Bilderberg is part of the all-powerful conspiracy that is running the world who’s buggering up the exchange rates?

  • StefZ

    “Ok so a very small group maybe able to. but over time loyalties change and people change. Most of these theorys would require 100’s of people to keep schtum. Simply never happens”

    well quite

    and it’s great that we have a free and uncontrolled media, stuffed full of fearless investigative journalists, those disaffected people can tell their stories to

    or, there again, maybe not

    The wonderful thing that conspiracy theory debunkers overlook is the one basic fact that renders high level conspiracies possible

    if the conspirators have influence over the press and the justice system it doesn’t matter if the execution of their conspiracy is imperfect

  • anno

    Bill the burglar stole all the money from the banks. Bill the Builder didn’t have any money to be taxed so they couldn’t afford the Welfare State any more. Just when it was really needed. Why don’t they eat Battenburg cake?

  • Conrad

    Craig,

    You are delusional if you don’t think there is an underlying dead hand behind all this chaos. There is an illuminati world wide conspiracy for WWIII. All governments are compromised. They may revel in their power today but they will be defeated and held accountable for their actions.

  • Count Von Bilder Berg

    Meine freunden

    Of COURSE ve vouldn’t dream of running die welt mit der Bilderberg. Ve vould leave it to die skull und crossbones in Amerika to do it fur us und pick up die profits later! Ho ho ho!

  • StefZ

    People are far too free with passing diagnoses on the mental health of people they disagree with on the Internet

  • sandcrab

    If there is no secret government going on in this starved, bombed, poisoned, enslaved and wasted world… then there certainly is no clear government of any intelligence going on in it either.

  • Clark

    OK.

    We must be careful to ask the right questions. If we ask “Does a conspiracy exist?” we can waste much time arguing over it.

    It seems clear that the Middle East issue could spark escalating conflict, even leading to a world war.

    So the conspiracy theory implies WWIII, and Middle East escalation implies WWIII.

    So arguing about the existence or otherwise of a conspiracy is a DISTRACTION.

    We need to ask: “How do we prevent this?”

  • MJ

    Yes and what about this quote straight from David Rockefeller’s autobiography (page 405):

    “For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it”.

  • mike cobley

    There doesn’t have to be a central/behind-the-curtain conspiracy. What we do have is a number of elite councils and organisations, with a fair degree of overlapping memberships, all of whom have pretty much the same motivations (maximise profit, minimise loss) and all of whom use pretty much the same tools (big media, lobbyists, international finance and accountants). Thus there is a range of these groups working in concert, which would tend to create a certain homogeneity of vocabulary and outcomes. So, not a conspiracy, but the effects are similar.

  • KingofWelshNoir

    I guess it’s nice that you can be chilled out about it, and thanks for the recommendation that we do the same, but I have to admit I am puzzled. You admit this involves the rich and powerful meeting in private to further their own interests, but we shouldn’t worry? Given everything that has happened over the past year it should be fairly clear that what is in their best interests is almost certainly not in ours. As for the remark that we wouldn’t mind if it was public, er…yes…isn’t that the whole point? I would also be slightly less concerned if they didn’t seem to be able to co-opt the air force and navy of whichever country they alight on. How do you get to do that? How can you be so un-chilled (rightly so) about the Gaza convoy but less so about a group of people who, if we can believe the reports of people who make the effort to go there and find out, talk loftily about war with Iran?

  • Woobus

    Surely if a group of unelected elites are meeting and deciding on factors that effect the whole world then they have kind of formed some kind of World Government already?

    Van Rompuy seemed to make sure he stated his intents to the group before he became the European President.

  • nextus

    That Denis Healey quote (5.53pm) sounds more like a nod to international Marxism than any call for an Illuminati NWO. And David Rockefeller admits he had a vision for greater world harmony (who doesn’t?), but sounds like he’s just fed up with daft conspiraloons accusing him of evil plots without listening to his arguments. But of course these confessions are hard evidence, aren’t they? In some universes perhaps.

    The conspiracy theorists are resonating with anti-communists and anti-Semites. Some of the ranters on this blog have a McCarthyite zeal which is wholly empirical. Isn’t amazing how so many bigots end up singing different words to the same tune?

  • nextus

    Oops: “wholly empirical” should say “wholly unempirical”. But you knew that already.

  • MJ

    “David Rockefeller admits he had a vision for greater world harmony”

    To be precise, what he admits is being “part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, [characterizing my family and me as] “internationalists” and [of] conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world”

  • nextus

    Cognopthamologists have developed a cure for blindness to the subtle use of irony, MJ. Unfortunately it’s often overlooked. 😉

  • MJ

    So if it’s explicit and straight from the horse’s mouth it has to be irony. I see (or not, apparently).

  • nextus

    That’s a cute rejoinder, MJ: surmising that the alternative reading must imply some kind of simplistic, absolute rule, and then ridiculing that rule with an ironic prima facie contradiction. That’s almost the same technique that Rockefeller used.

    Now you’re getting it. Derrida would be proud. 🙂

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