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176 thoughts on “Afghan Disaster part 462

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  • pollok

    Ah, it must be because I’m a jew …it seems to be the answer for everything here.

  • Komodo

    In this NATO page on Uzbekistan, buried among the total lack of references to its human rights record, is a note that Uzbekistan agreed to destroy and then detroyed its stocks of melange:
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    2008 Uzbekistan signs an agreement to carry out a Science for Peace and Security project aimed at the destruction of the country’s stocks of mélange, a very toxic substance.
    2009 Conversion of the country’s stock of the toxic mélange into a harmless chemical begins near Samarkand.
    2010 NATO completes arrangements with several countries, including Uzbekistan*, for the transit of non-lethal ISAF cargo to Afghanistan by rail.
    Mélange conversion project successfully completed.

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    Would a Central Asia hand or expert on WMD please tell me what melange is? While there may be a breccia associated with a subduction zone underlying the country, it is not usually regarded as toxic. Or does the psychotropic agent in Frank Herbert’s “Dune” trilogy have real existence? If so, I bet NATO grabbed some for its space navigators before it was rendered harmless. No, I’m only joking. It must be something extremely nasty or NATO hoping that no-one would visit its site and taking the piss.
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    *Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, etc

  • Komodo

    Soviet shorthand for HNO3/NOx – liquid oxidiser for rocket motors. Basically RFNA…past its sell by, and could be used by very brave terrorists for making explosives, but basically nothing to worry about.

  • pollok

    Komodo I see that you have chosen not to respond to boniface goncourt’s ‘comment’… I take it that as a long time contributor to these pages, you don’t have any problem the views expressed?

  • Jives

    “Komodo I see that you have chosen not to respond to boniface goncourt’s ‘comment’… I take it that as a long time contributor to these pages, you don’t have any problem the views expressed?”
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    Uhhh…do you mean all the views ever expressed on these pages?
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    That would be strange wouldn’t it?

  • guano

    Boniface Goncourt
    I think you mean Mulla wood, the rollercoaster, box-office collaboration of political Islam and the triumvirate of UKUSIS in the destruction of Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, for their own joint mad ends. viz: to make a quadrumvirate UKUSISIM or a cinquevirate (pronounced Chink) with Russia/China USUKISIMXCOM. If all the grown-ups got together and made one plan to put us under control, we really would have to behave ourselves then! BTW What makes you think that British or American values are not organised religions?
    I am wearing my bile/slime scene of crime protective clothing.

  • Jay

    Looks like we need to take on board our current situation and move forward with all colours, cultures,and creads and stop destroying.
    If someone can save our current moral decline speak up now.
    Be it a collective or an individual.

    Who wants to change what and what to
    ? Thats should be the question on all our medias

    keep striving.

    Syrian Rebel “I am not happy with the current regime”
    British media ” what do you want then”

    Sorry if any offence is caused.

    @Polack

    [Mod/jon – white nationalist websites removed]

  • Mary

    Frank Gardner was speaking compassionately this morning on Radio 4 Today about this hunger striker in Bahrain who is a Danish citizen . There is a fear that if he dies which is likely, it will all kick off in Bahrain. Ban Ki Moon wants him out.
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    What next? No Grand Prix? No Jubilee lunch for the self appointed Bahrain King at Windsor Castle? Shock. Horror.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17640200

  • Mary

    Our disgusting arms dealing Prime Minister is on an Asian tour, first stops Tokyo and Yokohama. In his 40 strong delegation are arms manufacturers. Japan has relaxed its prohibitions on holding weapons and there might be a joint weapons development initiative between Japan and the UK. Goodee, goodee for BAE et al.
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    Will they all be visiting Fukishima? Probably not.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17661004
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    As usual the media stooges like James Landale of the BBC and Joey Jones of Sky News are along for the ride to produce the propaganda.

  • oddie

    perhaps someone has posted this previously, but i have only just seen it and am somewhat surprised:

    17 Feb: EJU: First ever European Jewish Parliament inaugurated in Brussels
    The inaugural meeting of the 120 elected members of the first ever European Jewish Parliament (EJP), described as a new and innovative forum to voice the thoughts, beliefs and ideas as well as concerns of European Jews, took place on Thursday at the European Parliament building in Brussels.
    http://www.eju.org/news/eju-events/first-ever-european-jewish-parliament-inaugurated-brussels

  • Mary

    Some Newspeak from NATO-OTAN as Obomber prepares for some electioneering in Chicago.
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    20 May 2012 – 21 May 2012
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    Preparing for Chicago
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    NATO will be holding its 25th summit in President Obama’s hometown of Chicago, United States, on 20-21 May 2012. It will deliver on decisions that were taken at the Lisbon Summit in November 2010, driving forward key Alliance policies and reaffirming the transatlantic link.
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    The summit will principally focus on three main themes: the Alliance’s commitment to Aghanistan through transition and beyond, ensuring the Alliance has the capabilities it needs to defend its population and territory and to deal with the challenges of the 21st century, and strengthening NATO’s network of partners across the globe.
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    NATO is clearly committed to supporting Afghanistan beyond 2014, when the gradual transition of responsibility for the security of the country from ISAF troops to Afghan forces will be fully implemented. At Chicago, leaders will put forward proposals to make this a reality – a mark of their determination to ensure the country will never again be a base for global terrorism.
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    /..
    http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_84287.htm

  • TFS

    Off Topic: Japan, Fukashima.

    Any views Craig on the lack of press coverage of the potential for worldwide disaster relating to the fukashima nuclear incident, and I’m not talking about the potential to move millions of people from Tokyo, reactor No.4 seems to have the potential to effect the population globally if another earthquake arrive in the next couple of years.

    PS how how the note recovery come on?

  • Mary

    Abu Hamza and others have lost their battle in the ECHR against extradition to the US.
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    The evil Empires rule.
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    From the BBC website –

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    European judges will rule later whether six terror suspects, including radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, can be extradited from the UK to the US.
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    They include alleged terror fundraiser Babar Ahmad and two men accused of a role in two 1998 US embassy bombings.
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    The European Court of Human Rights has considered whether human rights would be breached if the men receive lengthy sentences in certain prison conditions.
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    The suspects say they could be held in solitary confinement.
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    They argue that they might be held in a high-security prison in Colorado, known as a “supermax” prison and claim that if convicted there is very little or no prospect of ever being released.
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    The six suspects, who have been indicted on various charges of alleged terrorism in the US, say conditions of detention at a so-called “supermax” prison would amount to ill-treatment under article three of the human rights code.
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    The European code states: “No-one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment”.

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    /..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17657814

  • Komodo

    “Komodo I see that you have chosen not to respond to boniface goncourt’s ‘comment’… I take it that as a long time contributor to these pages, you don’t have any problem the views expressed?”
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    Can’t win. First you’re on about off-topic posts, now you’re bitching about my not contributing to them. Make up your mind. In any case, the remark was not aimed at me. (Is it coz I isn’t a Jew?)

  • Komodo

    Flippancy aside, this for the record, as if anyone is likely to give a flying one:
    1. The opinions I express here are my own opinions. There is a point with every poster up to which I agree with him/her. On a scale of 1 to 10, point 1 on the scale is “I agree on the necessity of breathing” and 10 is “Marry me.”
    2. What I say is not conditioned by my accidental parentage, or my perceived allegiance to a country other than my own. I am British, and I resent being told what to think by (censored)
    3. I have a REALLY unpleasant sense of humour.
    4. Thank you, Craig.

  • nuid

    “Hasbara calling”
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    I don’t think that throwing around the word “hasbara” as often as the (certain) Israelis throw around the word “anti-semitic” is necessarily a good idea.
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    Pollok had a point. And (s)he’s entitled to express it.

  • technicolour

    Hasbara, indeed. So people who object to one set of people being insulted and demonised are suspect of something, are they?

    Well, I thoroughly object. In fact the gibbering neo-Nazi nonsense would be sickening if it weren’t so sad and dull. I suppose it must be worth it, to hang around a message board for months waiting to see what snide little bits of name-calling you can sneak in – if you don’t have a life, that is.

    As for Eliot, perhaps everyone should read the Four Quartets – he progressed as a human being, if not as a poet.

  • Mary

    The True Cause of the Death of David Kelly

    by Dr. Michael Powers

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    April 8 2012
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    Dr Kelly was a brilliant man who did his best for his country. We owe it to him and ourselves to discover the true cause of his death
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    In this powerfully argued article, doctor and barrister Dr Michael Powers QC explains why justice demands an inquest is held
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    Doubts: Dr Michael Powers QC says key questions were not asked about Dr Kelly
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    Since his untimely death in July 2003, questions have continued to be raised about the circumstances of Dr David Kelly’s death. Many wonder whether he really killed himself and speculate that he was murdered. His sudden death shocked the nation – how could it have happened?
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    As a specialist practitioner in law and medicine, I feel a responsibility to the two professions to air my doubts about a case that bridges both worlds.
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    /..
    {http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30202}

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    Omitted from Dr Powers’ quote of Hunt’s reply – ‘if one ignores all the other features of the case’.
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    End of Dr Hunt’s evidence to Hutton Inquiry
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    Q.LORD HUTTON You have already dealt with this, I think, but could you
    confirm whether, as far as you could tell on the
    examination, there was any sign of third party
    involvement in Dr Kelly’s death?
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    A.DR NICHOLAS HUNT No, there was no pathological evidence to indicate the
    involvement of a third party in Dr Kelly’s death.
    Rather, the features are quite typical, I would say, of
    self inflicted injury if one ignores all the other
    features of the case.
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    Q. Is there anything else you would like to say concerning
    the circumstances leading to Dr Kelly’s death?
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    A. Nothing I could say as a pathologist, no.
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    LORD HUTTON: Thank you for your very clear evidence,
    Dr Hunt.

  • Mary

    Many people have little idea of the large number of organisations that put out pro- Israel propaganda and attempt to squelch comment. Some even have representatives embedded in branches of the media!
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    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/About+the+Ministry/Structure+and+departments/What+Hasbara+Is+Really+All+About+-+May+2005.htm
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    I can think of
    CAMERA {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_Accuracy_in_Middle_East_Reporting_in_America}
    and The Israel Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Project) to name but two.

  • Clark

    In his book Understanding Media, Marshall McLuhan

    “proposed that media themselves, not the content they carry, should be the focus of study. McLuhan’s insight was that a medium affects the society in which it plays a role not by the content delivered over the medium, but by the characteristics of the medium itself”.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understanding_Media
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    I think that a similar principle applies to nuclear power technology. Solid fuelled uranium reactors require uranium enrichment, and they inevitably produce plutonium. They just share too much with the production chain of nuclear weapons; any country that wants them comes under suspicion, or at least opens itself to criticism, from that country’s enemies and/or rivals.
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    These reactors are primitive, wasteful, dirty and dangerous. They will burn Earth’s reserves of uranium far too quickly. Their defenders argue that their by-product, plutonium, can itself be used as a nuclear fuel, but to burn plutonium an even riskier type of reactor needs to be developed, the “fast” reactor.
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    Of course, most governments want the reliable supply of electricity that nuclear power offers, though some of them would rather not host the power stations, preferring to buy the electricity from those of a nearby country. So the whole thing breaks down into “nuclear power is good when we or our allies do it, but bad when our (perceived or actual) enemies do it”. The converse also applies, and I wonder if contributors here who defend Iran’s nuclear programme are as enthusiastic about similar technology in their own countries.
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    In the 1960s the US prototyped a technology which, if developed, could break this deadlock. Unfortunately, the US has so far neglected its opportunity to lead by example, and no other country has progressed very far in taking up the challenge, either:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor#History

  • Mod/Clark

    Jay, a comment of yours, 10/04/2012 at 7:46 am, was queued for moderation by the spam filter. I am not going to approve it, as it links to two white supremacist sites, Skrewdriver and The Occidental Observer.

  • Komodo

    I’m not happy about anyone’s nuclear programme. However, I don’t personally believe we can go on burning fossil fuels indefinitely. Eventually they will run out, and climate change is already occurring – no matter what this week’s quibble is – increasing CO2 levels are closely correlated with rising global temperature and simple physics predicts that the trend will continue. Therefore, we have some unacceptable options:
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    First, depopulate the planet and decrease demand for fuels and other dwindling resources. Personally, I don’t find this unacceptable at all, as long as it is done by natural wastage and birth control.
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    Second, cut drastically our use of fossil fuels and look for alternative sources of energy: fine, but no politician on earth is going to get re-elected on a ticket of “power cuts on calm days”; the sacred Car must be propitiated, and energy storage technology is still a long way behind customer demand.
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    And even if it were not (thirdly), primary power generation must be available during the transition…there has to be energy to store. In the medium term, nuclear power is inevitably needed, filthy waste, decommissioning costs and all.
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    For all the high ideals, very few people are prepared to take a massive cut in their perceived standard of living, which is what rational energy use would involve. This makes the rapid reshaping of our energy strategy required impossible in political terms.
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    So I am reconciled to the idea of Iran (or (censored)) having peaceful nuclear power stations. I would not deny anyone a luxury I had permitted myself, no matter how reluctantly.
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    Point of order: fast breeder reactors are a reality already. Also,the Indians are experimenting with thorium (more abundant and its fission is more controllable than uranium). And if PRISM ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jan/24/sellafield-plutonium-reactor-plans-rejected ) was rejected, there is still hope that our vast plutonium stockpiles can be used for power generation. The issues you raise, Clark, are well known to the industry (which has to work far harder than, say, shale frackers, to convince a justifiably leary public).
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    There is some bastard in a Phantom on full reheat overhead as I type…

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