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  • nevermind

    Those dead horse should be served up as school dinners to replace the corporate PFI shite these poor kids have to eat now, with some decent proteins.

    600 dead Afghan kids are called collateral, because the precise US weapons and their goon operators can pinpoint them, so they meant to shoot these kids to demoralise those who support the opposition to their occupation of Afghanistan. And what of the victims of 7/7? Neither deserved their fate and that’s why its time for those who do to be picked out, its time for those who arrange.

    Thanks for the excellent words of Ms. Wright, no wonder Obama could not look reality in the face, he has never served anybody, bar his neighbourhood addicts, a coward who has wasted the trust put in him.

    Now he’s egging on China and Russia, when he should be stepping back and encourage peace negotiations between South and North Korea, without the warmongers puppets sitting around the table.

  • Jemand - The Easter Bunny Hears Your Prayers

    Habbabkuk, we can all disagree on things, but what counts is a process of intelligent (two way) communication that moves us towards common ground. Some things, like personal values or profound differences in perception, cannot be immediately reconciled with their resistant correspondents – a diplomatic agreement to disagree, therefore, is a desirable outcome in anticipation of a new opportunity to revisit the matter later.

    I’ve got a lot of respect for many commentators here, including some who I strenuously disagree with. And then there are others.

  • A Node

    I wouldn’t let Tamiflu or Relenza touch me with a bargepole. My guess is that Tamiflu has probably harmed more people than it has hurt. No I can’t substantiate that, it’s a guess, based upon ….

    …. expert medical opinion ….
    http://www.bmj.com/press-releases/2012/01/17/effects-tamiflu-still-uncertain-warn-experts-roche-continues-withhold-key-
    …. tabloid headlines ….
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2087760/Tamiflu-Side-effects-effectiveness-wonder-drug-microscope.html
    …. obfuscation by the drug companies ….
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/07/recommended-tamiflu-has-flawed-results.aspx
    …. guilt by association (Rumsfeld, aspartame and Tamiflu) ….
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/04/04/donald-rumsfeld-rakes-in-5-million-for-tamiflu.aspx
    …. terrifying instances of contamination …
    http://www.naturalnews.com/025760_bird_flu_influenza.html
    …. and my own paranoia.

  • A Node

    ^^^^^^ above

    “My guess is that Tamiflu has probably harmed more people than it has hurt.”
    correction =
    “My guess is that Tamiflu has probably harmed more people than it has helped.”

  • karel

    halibabacus (in culo e la vita)

    I have read somewhere that more habacocks get killed every day than horses. Is there any truth in this rumour?

  • Anon

    Node,

    Flu strains also have a habit of developing resistance to Tamiflu during treatment. H1N1 Swine Flu is currently developing Tamiflu resistant strains.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/18/swine-flu-resistant-tamiflu-scientists

    Swine flu cases resistant to Tamiflu are becoming more common, say scientists

    Resistance to the drug has been shown before, but the new Australian data on its steady growth and the apparently easy transfer from one person to another of Tamiflu-resistant flu strains will alarm public health experts.

    The data comes from Dr Aeron Hurt, of the World Health Organisation collaborating centre for reference and research on influenza in Melbourne. He and his colleagues have found that approximately 2% of H1N1pdm09/swine flu cases are resistant to Tamiflu. While that is not large, an increasing proportion of the patients have never been treated with the drug – so they have contracted a form of flu that is already resistant to it.

    Human seasonal H1N1 developed 100% Tamiflu resistance just before it was replaced by pandemic swine H1N1 which is now copying its sibling.

    Given the choice, in a bad outbreak, I would go for Relenza.

  • Dave Lawton

    @Jemand 5:08am
    If you had read my comment on Gamma ray lasers you would understand how the energy could be delivers. From your comments
    I can gather you have never worked in the field of High energy particle physics so you would not understand the physics even if you were shown the informationyou would deny it anyway,so it is just a waste of space.If you have ever built large scale particle detectors you would know there are huge bursts of gamma
    and cosmic radiation occurring all the time. Detectors are recording events all over the place.Get it?.
    I also found on this blog ie the Al Hilli thread outrageous statements about my old place of work the Rutherford Lab which they had retrieved from the newspapers
    which were total lies.As regards to being a disrupter of this blog.I believe you are.Why I am on this blog? because a met Craig a few years ago and bought his book and went to his talk about the events in his life story.I think you are totally out of order.You should read some William Blake it would good for your soul .Ooop`s Sorry I expect you don`t believe in such nonsense. http://internationaltimes.it/blake-and-god/

  • A Node

    Anon 7 Apr, 2013 – 6:02 pm

    “Given the choice, in a bad outbreak, I would go for Relenza.”

    Thanks for your concern, but I’ve got the choice. I’ll choose neither.

  • karel

    Trollbridge nad Dave lawton,

    you may be interested to know that sattelite lasers can not just cause earthquakes but may also warm up your brains to make you even more scientifically chalenged, unless you protect your heads by wearing woollen caps made in Orkney islands. It may have come to your attention that gamma lasers have been long used by Captain America. since the sixtees, I presume. Are you two aspiring science fiction writers by any chance?

  • nevermind

    @Jemand You might want to eat the inexorably rising elderly fare on their way out into lala land, I could not possibly comment as to say that I would not like to consume the DNA of certain commenter’s here.

  • Anon

    Node,

    That’s up to you. I don’t think you’ll find a single qualified Flu researcher who wouldn’t take them though in a bad outbreak. Whether you believe it or not there is actually even a preventative dose for both treatments. The mechanisms they work by are well known and well studied. If taken early enough after onset they can greatly reduce the extent of illness.

    However, at the start of the swine flu outbreak many people took Tamiflu when they had seasonal H1N1 (or just a cold) and for that it was most definitely worse than useless. Seasonal H1N1 has been effectively wiped off the face of the planet by being out-competed by swine H1N1, As the other circulating human flu H3N2 has not developed resistance (yet), Tamiflu is again effective against the vast majority of the circulating variants although swine flu is breaking free.

    These two antivirals saved many lives – many of those people on ventilators at the outbreak peak owe their lives to them.

  • Jemand - The Easter Bunny Hears Your Prayers

    Dave Lawton 

    DL : “From your comments I can gather you have never worked in the field of High energy particle physics so you would not understand the physics even if you were shown the information you would deny it anyway, so it is just a waste of space.”

    Me: Well that’s convenient. Why do you constantly prattle on about it despite the fact that most people here are not scientists, let alone physicists?

    DL : “If you have ever built large scale particle detectors you would know there are huge bursts of gamma and cosmic radiation occurring all the time. Detectors are recording events all over
    the place.Get it?”

    Me: Yeah, I “Get it”. But what I don’t get is how you think localised bursts of radiation would be confused with natural global fluxes? Surely the data from those instruments would, altogether, indicate both the source and target of a high energy laser event? That’s a very odd comment coming from someone purporting to be a scientist or engineer.. Care to explain further? Oh, and how do you know I haven’t built “large scale particle detectors” in my spare time? I might have one in my back yard.

    DL: “I also found on this blog ie the Al Hilli thread outrageous statements about my old place of work the Rutherford Lab which they had retrieved from the newspapers which were total lies.”

    Me: I don’t know about that but I’m also sick of the newspapers lying about me and my hideous disability. Are there others on the Al Hilli thread who think you’re crackpot?

    DL: “As regards to being a disrupter of this blog.I believe you are.”

    Me: Yeah, probably. You wouldn’t be the first to point that out. You and Mary would get on like a house on fire – burning under the searing beam of a gamma laser, I suppose.

    DL: “Why I am on this blog? because a met Craig a few years ago and bought his book
    and went to his talk about the events in his life story.”

    Me: So buying someone’s book gives you cause to visit his blog to post crackpot claims about mythical sci-fi weaponry? Fair enough. I come here to pick up goth chicks. Each to his own, I guess.

    DL: “I think you are totally out of order.”

    Me: I am wearing no such sign around my neck so I will take that as idle speculation. 

    DL: “You should read some William Blake it would good for your soul .Ooop`s Sorry I
    expect you don`t believe in such nonsense. http://internationaltimes.it/blake-and- god/”

    Me: That word “should” sure gets used a lot ’round here. Thanks, I’ll look into it.

    Thanks, Dave.

  • A Node

    Anon

    You may be right about most qualified Flu researchers (although I’m sure I could dig up a few who support my caution – want me to try?) but I would suggest we shouldn’t discount the opinions of ordinary health workers who deal with both the effects of flu and vaccine side effects.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208716/Half-GPs-refuse-swine-flu-vaccine-testing-fears.html
    and
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nurses-Against-Mandatory-Flu-Shots/422093897838536

  • Anon

    Node,

    I should add that the publication of full studies by Roche is long overdue. But the mechanism it works by is known despite what some links claim. Flu virologists even know why it doesn’t work in some cases and what mutations are needed for a particular strain to gain resistance – either naturally or otherwise…

  • Dave Lawton

    As this thread is called Nuclear Nightmare maybe this is an appropriate piece of news.The large Hadron Collider is to be upgraded
    to double the energy.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21941666?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bbc_news+%28BBC+News+-+Home%29

    This is a quote from Lord Rees former Master of Trinity College Cambridge.from his book “Our Final Century.”

    “Experiments that crash atoms together with immense force could start a chain reaction that erodes everything
    on Earth;the experiments could even tear the fabric of space itself.an ultimate `Doomsday`catastrophe whose
    fallout spreads at the speed of light to engulf the entire universe”

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    “I have read somewhere that more habacocks get killed every day than horses. Is there any truth in this rumour?”

    Absolutely correct, Karel.

    But fortunately not on this blog 🙂

    ****************

    La vita è bella, life is good!

  • Anon

    Node,

    A Daily Mail article from 2009 is a bit dated. Anyway these days everyone who gets a flu shot gets the swine flu vaccine and the old human H1N1 vaccine is no longer included in the mix.

    It is astonishing the amount we actually know now about type A Flu genetics. These people have recreated the 1918 deadly flu in the lab from scratch, mutated bird flu for airborne transmission whilst maintaining its lethality and got up to all sorts of other things that make me very uncomfortable. But knowledge has progressed a long way even if the average GP is still in the dark. Sooner or later I fear a tragic mistake will be made and just hope that’s not what we are seeing in China. Nobody would be so worried if the Chinese outbreak didn’t have some of the very same genetic changes that were forced upon H5N1 by human researchers to create a pandemic strain.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    “600 dead Afghan kids are called collateral, because the precise US weapons and their goon operators can pinpoint them, so they meant to shoot these kids to demoralise those who support the opposition to their occupation of Afghanistan.”

    A truly evil thing to claim, Nevermind. You seem to have a very sick, twisted mind.

    As Berlusconi (nearly said) to Martin Schulz : you’d make a good KZ guard.

    ********

    La vita è bella, life is good! (combat evil – intern all loonies)

  • Jemand - The Easter Bunny Hears Your Prayers

    Dave Lawton, above, quoting Lord Rees former Master of Trinity College Cambridge.from his
    book “Our Final Century.”

    “Experiments that crash atoms together with immense force could start a chain reaction that erodes everything on Earth;the experiments could even tear the fabric of space itself.an ultimate `Doomsday`catastrophe whose fallout spreads at the speed of light to engulf the entire universe”
    . . . .

    Dave, I was under the impression, perhaps incorrectly, that our Sun and distant black holes “crash atoms together with immense force”. Why has this not yet resulted in a “Doomsday catastrophe” for the universe?

    And what can we do about stopping this upgrade to CERN’s Large Hadron Collider? Do you recommend organising a protest in France/Switz? I’m pretty good at signwriting, so I can do the “End of the World is Nigh!” signs. 

  • Anon

    Dave

    You inexplicably miss out the rest of the quote

    These latter scenarios may be exceedingly unlikely, but they raise in extreme form the issue of who should decide, and how, whether to proceed with experiments that have a genuine scientific purpose (and could conceivably offer practical benefits), but that pose a very tiny risk of an utterly calamitous outcome.

    And just preceding your quote is this

    Some of these new threats are already upon us; others are still conjectural. Populations could be wiped out by lethal “engineered” airborne viruses;

    So I don’t think he was particularly worried about the Hadron Collider ending the Universe. He might be more worried about flu though.

  • karel

    dave lawton,

    yes indeed, the LHC will devour us all. Has it not already happened with your brain?

  • A Node

    In 2010 when swine flu filled the headlines, it killed 142 people in England and Wales. The government spent 239 million pounds on vaccines.

    In the same period 141,446 people died of cancer. Cancer Research UK leads by far the biggest fight against cancer. It receives no government funding, raises all funds from the public, and its largest ever donation was 10million pounds.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010#

  • karel

    dave lawton,

    there are two possibilite concerning your citation of the following statement “Experiments that crash atoms together with immense force could start a chain reaction that erodes everything on Earth;the experiments could even tear the fabric of space itself.an ultimate `Doomsday`catastrophe whose fallout spreads at the speed of light to engulf the entire universe” made supposedly by Rees. Either you deliberately twisted the text or made this up entirely, in which case you are a fraud, or you picked it up somewhere in the blogosphere, which makes you a fool.

  • doug scorgie

    Jemand – The Easter Bunny Hears Your Prayers
    7 Apr, 2013 – 4:53 pm

    To Mary:

    “Am I required to comment on your bizarre post equating the deaths of women and children with racehorses? Are you fucking joking? How did you conflate horse racing with the Afghan war?”

    Mary, the Easter bunny is a dissembler troll like the others we have on this blog. Quarantine is advised.

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