Navalny, Ward, Assange, Snowden and the Attack on Free Speech

by craig on July 25, 2013 4:44 pm in Uncategorized

Russia does not have a functioning criminal justice system at all, in the sense of a trial mechanism aimed at determining innocence or guilt.  Exactly as in Uzbekistan, the conviction rate in criminal trials is over 99%.  If the prosecutors, who are inextricably an arm of the executive government, want to send you to jail, there is absolutely no judicial system to protect you.  The judges are purely there for show.

When critics of Putin like Alexei Navalny are convicted, therefore, we have absolutely no reassurance that the motivation behind the prosecution or the assessment of guilt was genuine.  Which is not to say that Navalny is innocent; I am in no position to judge. People are complex.   I sacrificed my own pretty decent career to the cause of human rights, but in my personal and family life I was by no means the most moral of individuals.  I see no reason for it to be impossible that all of Navalny’s excellent political work did not co-exist with a fatal weakness.  But his criticisms of Putin made him a marked man, who the state was out to get, and the most probable explanation – especially as prosecutors had looked at the allegations before and decided not to proceed – is that he is suffering for his criticisms of the President rather than a genuine offence.

It fascinates me that the Western media view the previous decision by the prosecutors not to proceed as evidence the case is politically motivated against Navalny; but fail to draw the same conclusion from precisely the same circumstance in the Assange case.

David Ward MP has not been sent to jail.  He has however had the Lib Dem whip removed, which under Clegg’s leadership perhaps he ought to consider an honour.  It is rather a commonplace sentiment that it is a terribly sad thing, that their community having suffered dreadfully in the Holocaust, the European Jews involved in founding the state of Israel went on themselves to inflict terrible pain and devastation on the Palestinians in the Nakba.   Both the Holocaust and the Nakba were horrific events of human suffering.  For this not startling observation, David Ward is removed from the Liberal Democrats.  He also stated that, with its ever increasing number of racially specific laws, its walls and racially restricted roads, Israel is becoming an apartheid state.  That is so commonplace even Sky News’ security correspondent Sam Kiley said it a few months ago, without repercussion.  In Russia you cannot say Putin is corrupt; in the UK you cannot say Israeli state policy is malign.  Neither national state can claim to uphold freedom of speech.  Meanwhile, of course, David Cameron announces plans to place filters on the internet access of all UK households.

In the United States, the House of Representatives failed by just 12 votes to make illegal the mass snooping by the NSA which was not widely publicised until Edward Snowden’s revelations.  What Snowden said was so important that almost half the country’s legislators wished to act on his information.  Yet the executive wish to pursue him and remove all his freedom for the rest of his life, as they are doing to Bradley Manning for Manning’s exposure of war crimes and extreme duplicity.

Around this complex of issues and the persons of Manning, Navalny, Snowden and Assange there is a kind of new ideological competition between the governments of Russia, the US and UK as to which is truly promoting the values of human freedom.  The answer is none of them are.  All these states are, largely in reaction to the liberating possibilities of the internet, promoting a concerted attack on freedom of speech and liberty of thought.

States are the enemy.  We are the people.

 

 

 

 

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  1. Glen; The “Collateral Murder” incident was news from the time it happened. Wikileaks revealed nothing except the video and what secrets did that reveal? A full transcript of the incident formed part of a book published by David Finkel the previous year, 2009. If the US are so sensitive about this incident why hasn’t he been stitched up on a rape charge yet?

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-09-15/world/36905794_1_reuters-apache-namir-noor-eldeen

  2. That last is SO funny.

    Yeah interesting! Kind of similar to kindergarten Crayon

  3. Flaming June

    26 Jul, 2013 - 3:15 pm

    ‘Area C’. Ghastly is it not? South Africa had ‘areas’.

    Israel freezes co-operation with EU in Palestinian territories
    Move follows European Union directive banning funding for bodies linked with Israeli settlements

    guardian.co.uk, Friday 26 July 2013 12.07 BST

    Israel has frozen co-operation with the European Union on work in the Palestinian territories in retaliation for an EU directive banning funding or grants for bodies with links to Israeli settlements.

    The move, authorised by the defence minister, Moshe Ya’alon, affects all projects requiring permits from the Civil Administration, which governs Area C, the 60% of the West Bank under full Israeli control; access of EU diplomats and representatives to Area C and Gaza; and joint meetings.

    No permits have been issued to EU humanitarian aid workers to enter Gaza for several days, according to a western diplomatic source.
    /..
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/26/israel-freezes-co-operation-eu-palestinian

  4. Flaming June

    26 Jul, 2013 - 3:18 pm

    John Kerry, a dead ringer for John McCain, and just as cruel. This is written by Jeffery St Clair, co editor of Counterpunch.

    The Blood-Soaked Resumé of a Peace Broker

    What John Kerry Really Did in Vietnam

    by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

    With John Kerry currently in full Henry Kissinger regalia, parading around the Middle East bullying the Palestinians and their allies in the region and Europe into signing onto a deeply flawed peace accord that primarily serves Israeli and American interests, it may prove a useful exercise to inspect the curriculum vitae of this putative peace-maker, especially during those formative years when the Secretary of State first carved out his name in the jungles of Southeast Asia. Though Kerry has a reputation as an anti-war activist, his brief tenure in Vietnam and Cambodia was notable both for acts of casual savagery and his striking lack of contrition for his own participation in atrocities that in a rational society might easily be classified as war crimes.–JSC

    In his senior year at Yale in 1966 John Kerry enlisted in the US Navy, with his actual induction scheduled for the summer, after his graduation. Already notorious among his contemporaries for his political ambition, he’d maneuvered himself into the top slot at the Yale political union, while also winning admission to Skull and Bones.

    While George W. Bush, two years behind Kerry, was seeking commercial opportunity at Yale by selling ounce bags of cocaine, (so one contemporary has recalled) Kerry was keeping a vigilant eye on the political temperature and duly noted a contradiction between his personal commitment to go to war and the growing antiwar sentiment among the masses, some of whom he hoped would vote for him at a not too distant time.

    /..
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/26/what-john-kerry-really-did-in-vietnam/

  5. Sofia Kibo Noh

    26 Jul, 2013 - 3:23 pm

    @Flaming. 2 31pm

    Sounds like a bunch of so and sos to me.

    Will it forever be so?

    This post is ,em> so scraping the barrel.

    So long or should I say “Slán”

    ….

    Lasmuigh den ábhar.

    An t-Asal Marbh

    Caitheann an tAth Ó Briain a shuil an tfhuinneog amach ar maidin agus cad tá ar an bhfaiche taobh amú roimhe ach asal marbh.

    Glaonn se ar oifig na nGardaí ar an dteileafon agus deireann,”Tá asal marbh ‘na luí ar m’fhaiche taobh amú. An misde cupla gardaí a cuireadh cugam i leith cun é a thogaint as?”

    “Cheapas i gcomhnui gur ar do churamsa e Óla Deireanach a cuireadh ar na marbh!” deireann an garda.

    Fanann an tAth Ó Briain in a thóst go cheann cupla noimeataí.

    Agus ansin deireann sé, “Is cheart dom eolas a cuireadh ar na ngeasghaol ardtus!”

  6. Jonathan will happily declare that anti-zionism equals anti-semitism. He will have no hesitation about tarring all criticism, as ‘anti Israel’, and all opponents as either self-hating Jews or anti-semites. Naturally Jonathan declines to accept that the occupation exists, insists that Israel is a full democracy, that all its actions are 100% justifiable and that human rights campaigners are Islamists in disguise. Jonathan likes to turn up to left wing events and shout, heckle and genuine(ly) make an ass of himself…..

    Such a good link, I’ll post it twice.

    http://www.jewdas.org/2010/08/jonathan-hoffman-anti-zionist-hero/

  7. Komodo, thanks for the link re RW and flying pig with star of david.

    Interesting that most people can’t manage a fart in protest when a country’s flag is burnt but any desecration of the holy image of Israel is subjected to a coordinated attack like we see with humourous depictions of ProMo. Sometimes I think that Muslims and Jews deserve each other. If only they would keep their internecine affections for one another within the dusty boundaries of the (un)holy land.

  8. Komodo Said;

    Jonathan will happily declare that anti-zionism equals anti-semitism. He will have no hesitation about tarring all criticism, as ‘anti Israel’, and all opponents as either self-hating Jews or anti-semites. Naturally Jonathan declines to accept that the occupation exists, insists that Israel is a full democracy, that all its actions are 100% justifiable and that human rights campaigners are Islamists in disguise. Jonathan likes to turn up to left wing events and shout, heckle and genuine(ly) make an ass of himself…..

    Agreed, it may even be better to be posted thrice, in case someone missed it .

  9. Uzbek in the UK

    26 Jul, 2013 - 3:34 pm

    Komodo,

    The last 2000 years of human history proves your statement to be false. States have always been repressive and elites have always been unwilling to share their power with society. However; some of us generated progressive ideas that changes a lot in the course of two millenias. Some of us died for the progress and for what we now call freedoms. Absolutism and religious oppression of medieval Europe was turned into modern societies with representative system of power and religious freedoms. However; states now again trying to subvert these freedoms in order to do what they do the best – benefit elites.

  10. I would like to offer this link to an address by a concerned Israeli Jew who spells out the difficulty he has in accepting the Netanyahu narrative. And confirms that Israel has NO INTENTION of permitting any kind of Palestinian state.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ&feature=player_embedded&t=80

    The name of the game: erasing Palestine, getting rid of the people and de-Arabizing the country…

    “When people talk about the possibility of Israel… giving up the West Bank for a Palestinian state, if it wasn’t so sad it would be funny. It shows a complete misunderstanding of the objective of Zionism and the Zionist state.

    “By 1993 the Israelis had achieved their mission to make the conquest of the West Bank irreversible. By 1993 the Israeli government knew for certain that a Palestinian state could not be established in the West Bank – the settlements were there, $billions were invested, the entire Jordan River valley was settled… there was no place any more for a Palestinian state to be established. That is when Israel said, OK, we’ll begin negotiations…”

  11. Not sure which of my statements you object to, Uzbek. What I would like to know is how we move from a corporate, greed-based political economy in which the vast majority are simply not discontented enough to move, and too well subdued by anodyne propaganda to realise that things will get gradually and subtly worse until they are restored to actual serfdom, in the absence of effective weaponry or any prospect of external aid…to an ideal society (on which we are bound to disagree anyway) I take Egypt as my model. What more should Egyptians have done to obtain a truly democratic state? They were pre-empted, outflanked and shafted by the global big battalions. The rise from feudalism to an acceptable system cannot be repeated by the same means. What means do you suggest?

  12. UITU Said

    Absolutism and religious oppression of medieval Europe was turned into modern societies with representative system of power and religious freedoms.

    How did that go?

    Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
    Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
    Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
    Oh, Lord, kumbaya.

    Or was it:

    Ging gang goolie goolie goolie goolie watcha,
    Ging gang goo, ging gang goo.

    states now again trying to subvert these freedoms in order to do what they do the best

    Interesting, there are optimists believing there are degrees of freedom for the autonomous slaves, that are being eroded.

  13. “CORRUPTION BY COMMITTEE; SCRUTINISING THE SCRUTINEERS”

    http://www.firmmagazine.com/corruption-committee-scrutinising-scrutineers/

  14. On the photograph in this link there are lots of giant Yanks ensuring a little man in glasses does not escape custody. The little man has more balls than the lot of them. Prosecutors in the Bradley Manning trial have summed up by saying his purpose was to aid Al Qaeda (a CIA-created terrorist group).

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/0725/Bradley-Manning-trial-closing-arguments-ask-Why-did-he-do-it

  15. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 4:22 pm

    “Major Fein also stressed the direct connection between what Manning leaked and Al Qaeda, including information gathered when Osama bin Laden was killed by US Navy SEALs.

    “He had actual knowledge that the enemies of the US used the Internet and WikiLeaks to gather information to be used against this country,” Fein said. “He knew releasing such information on the Internet would be in the hands of terrorists and other adversaries of this nation.””

    John Goss; Attorneys remarks are not evidence. Have they proven the ‘intent’ to aid the enemy?

    He talks about ‘reckless’ behavior and that’s a ways off from intent. A person can be guilty of being reckless while driving a car. If he kills a pedestrian and they want to prove intent so they can charge with murder, it’s a much steeper cliff.

    When the Prosecutor says ‘he knew releasing such information…..’ that only means he’s convinced, not the judge.

    But, the way the military has treated the journalists covering this story, I’m not sure of Judge Lind’s autonomy.

  16. Uzbek in the UK

    26 Jul, 2013 - 4:26 pm

    Passerby

    The results might be more important here than the process itself. Although if you are interested in the process, there is a lot of reading material available. This gradually happen in Europe more than anywhere else. Some argue that despite huge human cost two world wars greatly contributed to demise of religion in Europe at last.

  17. Flaming June

    26 Jul, 2013 - 4:32 pm

    Will Edward Snowden believe Eric Holder’s assurance that he will not be tortured or receive the death penalty if he returns to the US? How generous of the United States.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1120836/us-will-not-seek-death-penalty-for-snowden

  18. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 4:39 pm

    “Unfortunately, assuming there is no war, nobody would know what, or which, currency to trust,”

    If the fabric of society were torn, any currency would most likely be untenable as trade. Foodstuffs, coffee, liquor and other items would be sought in exchange for other needs.

    Junk silver is recognized in many quarters as having intrinsic value based upon current market value. For example, even now with silver being pommeled it’s at $18 per oz. If you have a 1964 or earlier US half-dollar it has .336 oz of silver so it’s value is a bout 6 bucks. It’s not useful for apocalyptic scenarios, but it’s a good stopgap for short-term regional crises.

  19. Uzbek in the UK

    26 Jul, 2013 - 4:51 pm

    Komodo,

    If only I new good and applicable practical answer. Marxism could be good example of ideal or better say academic answer to this but as it turned out it was a disaster in practise.

    Further development of civil societies could be good way forward. Societies that less dependent of state and that have means of communication within and between each other (something like internet). However; as it is evident state (elites) is penetrating hard both means of communication is subverting further development of civil societies by eroding foundations of understanding of common good by replacing it with need of material benefits. For instance rising living costs and consumerism make people more silent and some would rather shut their eyes on wrong doings to keep their jobs (like many in FCO) than criticising and becoming scape goats.

  20. Some argue that despite huge human cost two world wars greatly contributed to demise of religion in Europe at last.

    True some used to argue the Earth is flat, and others argued Earth was at the centre of the universe, and still there were those who argued, Blacks could not fly aircraft, in the very wars that evidently did so much for the cause of humanity, and its progress!

    There always is misanthropy, then there is bloody genocide, and of course there is the last option of would it not be nice for the Human vermin to disappear from the face of the Earth. All said and conveyed in the most palatable fashion of the zeitgeist!

  21. “Military Industrial Congressional Intelligence Complex”

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6116

  22. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 5:53 pm

    A blood-diamond whistleblower….https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Gordon_Douglas_Brown

    A blood-diamond enforcer—Sam Childers (machine-gun preacher -leaded version)

    His was the inspiration for the Gerard Butler movie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Childers

  23. Flaming June

    26 Jul, 2013 - 6:28 pm

    The connections between Israel and South Sudan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93South_Sudan_relations

    Oil and water are mentioned.

    ~~~

    I read about this protest in Brighton against Southern Water using Israeli made water meters.

    http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/135830PaPalestine Activist Wins Water Fight.

    Good for Caroline.

    Arad Technologies –
    http://arad.co.il/learning-center/case-studies/southern-waters-amr-implementation/

    Based in Dalia, Israel a kibbutz that found water.
    http://www.dalia.org.il/kibutz/begin.html

  24. KhartoumKarli

    26 Jul, 2013 - 6:29 pm

    ” States are the enemy “, well yes they are if they are denying their citizens their human rights. I guess we were a lot more human when we made that UN charter.
    The problems with the States which we have problems with , are , that they have become fascist. Corporations are fascist.They respect no borders, they avoid paying tax,break the law, they manipulate politicians with the money they don’t pay in tax.
    Look at Wullie Hague for gods sake. There was a (man ?) without a f***n clue and yet now she is our Foreign Secretary and they , whoever they are , have given her something to say, something to strive for, defend, get passionate about….. Suddenly clueless little Willie has a stage.. Cameron and Osborne are no different. There’s a script writer in there somewhere.The same guy who beds his male assistant and wanders the streets in a baseball cap, is suddenly projected as being Churchillian… He’s a ball handler and always hasbeen.
    People power, why does it not work ?? Craig, you chose the Liberals thinking they were different from the other MS parties only to find out they are all bought and paid for by the same bunch… whoever they are. The fact they have a zionist agenda could just be a BIG coincidence…
    Why isn’t there a decent alternative politics wise to the LibLabCons ? Why can’t someone come up with a Bank that operates the way they were supposed to ? Why don’t we change what we don’t like ? The younger generation are far too quiet for my liking, and the bite’s gone out of ours.
    There was so much hope in Tarir Square and it has been reduced to a grin in an army uniform with a groovy pair of shades. Is that our fate too ?
    On the bright side, I’m out of Sudan now . The only oppressive things there are the heat and Ramadan for a non-believer like myself.
    And I finally saw the Blue Nile
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTxD55Fz9w

  25. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 6:49 pm

    To illustrate his contention that states are the enemy (of the people), Craig takes the examples of Assange, Manning and Snowden, Navalny and British MP David Ward to show that neither the US, nor Russia, nor the UK, are truly promoting the values of human freedom. So the US, Russia and the UK all come under fire and their outlooks and actions are seen as roughly equivalent. Israel is mentioned by Craig to illustrate his UK/David Craig example.

    It is therefore quite revealing of the pensée unique and certain obsessions on this blog that of the comments posted so far, the kicks (whether on-topic or not) are distributed approximately as follow:

    – the US gets about 23 kicks
    – Israel/the Zionists get about 22 kicks
    – Russia gets about 2 kicks
    – The UK gets 1 kick.

  26. The Justice system in the UK has been subverted for use as a tool of repression by the state. Its all very totalitarian and the model has to be the former Soviet Union. Assange, Snowden, Manning and the UK’s own whistleblower Andrea Davison seek asylum from Western oppression. The UK’s Andrea Davison is not a young man like the others but a pensioner and former intelligence operative with an incruable illness forced to seek asylum because of persecution by the UK government

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/87110-former-british-intelligence-operative-andrea-davisons-explosive-evidence-to-the-macur-investigation-into-north-wales-child-abuse-an-absolutely-must-read-and-must-circulate

  27. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 7:41 pm

    ‘Porn’ takes on many definitions depending on who’s defining.

    that’s a failure of the educational system. Dismantle it.

  28. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 7:42 pm

  29. Flaming June

    26 Jul, 2013 - 7:51 pm

    The poster @ 6.49pm is SO good at counting numbers. Top of the class.

    I think that should be UK/David Ward btw.

  30. Horace Swanson

    26 Jul, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    “Exactly as in Uzbekistan, the conviction rate in criminal trials is over 99%.”

    That’s hardly unusual. It’s over 98% in the USA, and something similar in Japan.

  31. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 10:01 pm

    @ Flaming June

    “The poster @ 6.49pm is SO good at counting numbers. Top of the class.”
    ____________________-

    Yes, I know you don’t like numbers very much.

    Certain kinds of numbers anyway.

    I remember how upset you got with Glenn_uk when he was once kind enough to supply numbers for who had posted how many times on a number of threads. :)

  32. only one big ball

    26 Jul, 2013 - 10:07 pm

  33. – the US gets about 23 kicks
    – Israel/the Zionists get about 22 kicks

    Sounds about right. The two biggest threats to peace. The two most rogue states on the planet.

  34. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
    25 Jul, 2013 – 6:19 pm

    “It’s sad to see that this simple message – expressed in clear English – simply does not penetrate into the minds of (some) readers, who swerve away from Russia in order to give a supplementary kick to the US.”

    Habbabkuk; who on this blog supports Russia – politically or on human rights?

    Why have you not addressed Craig’s points re-produced below?

    “It is rather a commonplace sentiment that it is a terribly sad thing, that their community having suffered dreadfully in the Holocaust, the European Jews involved in founding the state of Israel went on themselves to inflict terrible pain and devastation on the Palestinians in the Nakba. Both the Holocaust and the Nakba were horrific events of human suffering. For this not startling observation, David Ward is removed from the Liberal Democrats. He also stated that, with its ever increasing number of racially specific laws, its walls and racially restricted roads, Israel is becoming an apartheid state.”

    And:

    “In the United States, the House of Representatives failed by just 12 votes to make illegal the mass snooping by the NSA which was not widely publicised until Edward Snowden’s revelations. What Snowden said was so important that almost half the country’s legislators wished to act on his information. Yet the executive wish to pursue him and remove all his freedom for the rest of his life, as they are doing to Bradley Manning for Manning’s exposure of war crimes and extreme duplicity.”

    You’re not really up to the task are you?

  35. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 10:25 pm

    @ Doug Scorgie

    “Habbabkuk; who on this blog supports Russia – politically or on human rights?”
    ______________________

    I have no idea, Doug.

    And now a question for you, in turn : who on this blog comments on political,, social or human rights abuses in Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt, North Korea, Venezuela, Ecuador, Zimbabwe, South Africa and various corrupt and despotic African countries?

    If nobody, why should this be so, do you think?

  36. Juteman
    25 Jul, 2013 – 7:03 pm

    “There are no juries in most Scottish trials. The Sheriff is god.”

    Are you trying to mislead Juteman? Perhaps you’re anti-independence laddie.

    There are no juries in most of England’s trials either because the majority of cases are heard at Magistrates courts (no jury).

  37. Kempe
    25 Jul, 2013 – 7:17 pm

    “Unfortunately the case for Assange being the victim of a US conspiracy comes unstuck when you notice that the release of the American diplomatic cables didn’t start until the 28th Novemeber 2010; eight days after the arrest warrant was issued and nearly 3 months after the rape complaints were first made.”

    Not true Mr Kempe:

    “The United States diplomatic cables leak, widely known as Cablegate, began in February 2010…”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_diplomatic_cables_leak

    The arrest warrant for rape was issued in August 2010. Six months AFTER the leaks began.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11949341

    I note your use of the word conspiracy.

  38. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 11:17 pm

    @ Scourge :

    “”Juteman
    25 Jul, 2013 – 7:03 pm

    “There are no juries in most Scottish trials. The Sheriff is god.”

    Are you trying to mislead Juteman? Perhaps you’re anti-independence laddie.

    There are no juries in most of England’s trials either because the majority of cases are heard at Magistrates courts (no jury).”
    __________________

    Illogical argument, there, Dougie : you found your accusation that Juteman is trying to mislead people by saying there are no juries in most Scottish trials on your revelation that there are no juries in most of England’s trials EITHER?

    A bit like saying, for example, that Doug Scourgie isn’t intelligent because Herbie and Macky aren’t intelligent EITHER, isn’t it?

  39. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 11:29 pm

    “Everyone is corruptible so retaining mechanisms of power invites corruption. In corporations and states.

    I hope for a gradual dismantling of both.”

    —————–

    And what happens after the dismantlings have been completed?

  40. Sofia Kibo Noh

    26 Jul, 2013 - 11:36 pm

    doug scorgie

    26 Jul, 2013 – 10:11 pm

    “Habbabkuk …..You’re not really up to the task are you?”

    Doug.
    Have you no heart? How can you be so too hard on Dad? After all he has selflessly taken on an impossible task which, day after endless day, he cheerfully throws himself into heart and soul. But even with his vast intellect it’s still impossible to defend the indefensible.

    Sometimes it just all gets a bit too much for him. Who wouldn’t moved by his attempt at 10 01pm.

    “Yes, I know you don’t like numbers very much.

    Certain kinds of numbers anyway.”

    Sigmund Freud would, if he wasn’t dead, intervene here like a shot he would tell you this is a classic example of paranoid hysterical projection triggered by ingrained phobias about periods and women’s power and suppressed feelings of foolishmess. Only a decade of intensive psychoanalysis would have a chance of bringing relief from such a torment.

    So please, just put yourself in Dad’s shoes for a moment. Give him credit where credit is due. Doesn’t it take a unique talent to confidently enter a discussion and turn it into the intellectual equivalent of cold tapioca with a few taps on his keyboard?

    Remember his valiant efforts to convince the Eministas that 2500000 US soldiers through Shannon Airport wasn’t really “millions” because, um, 2.5 isn’t really that much more than one. Even Kibo had trouble with that one and she’s a world renowned mathematical genuis.

    So next time you feel tempted to have a go at Dad just remember, even henchmen have feelings.

  41. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    26 Jul, 2013 - 11:40 pm

    “Sigmund Freud would, if he wasn’t dead, intervene here like a shot he would tell you this is a classic example of paranoid hysterical projection triggered by ingrained phobias about periods and women’s power and suppressed feelings of foolishmess. Only a decade of intensive psychoanalysis would have a chance of bringing relief from such a torment.”

    Shorter version; penis envy; but the projection? That’s even shorter.

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  43. Jon: Replied to your comment/ questions to me in this earlier thread regarding free speech on the blog. Thanks.

  44. Flaming June
    25 Jul, 2013 – 7:58 pm

    “In a ruling delivered this week, the BBC Trust appears to have accepted Israel’s facts on the ground, namely that Jerusalem is a united Israeli city.”

    Not surprising Mary; the BBC has been like this for decades but usually discretely. Now it appears that the state broadcaster is happy to proclaim aloud its biased stance on political issues ranging from Royal babies to ethnic cleansing by Israel.

    The hiring of an ardent Zionist, James Harding, says it all.

    “James Harding will be in charge of its flagship news and current affairs programs including Today, Newsnight, Panorama and Question Time. He will also be responsible for daily news bulletins on the BBC’s main television channels and radio stations.”

    “In 2011, Harding spoke at a media event organized by The Jewish Chronicle, telling his audience: “I am pro-Israel. I believe in the State of Israel. I would have had a real problem if I had been coming to a paper [The Times] with a history of being anti-Israel. And, of course, Rupert Murdoch is pro-Israel.”

    He also said:

    “We wrote an editorial called ‘In defence of Israel’ during the Gaza offensive, but we also reported on the use of white phosphorus, which was the Israelis breaking their own rules.”

    Breaking their own rules? It was breaking international law and a war crime.

    If states are the enemy, as Craig mentioned, then in the UK the BBC is also the enemy.

    Of course the alternative to the BBC is a private corporation like Fox TV but whatever model of funding, the state would hold the upper hand as with the so called “free press”.

    That means the Main Stream Media is the enemy.

  45. Well Said Doug. The MSM are certainly a long held Enemy of the poor Souls we have been murdering in far off lands.

    Almost 300,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and Israel headed to the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem to perform Ramadan prayers on yesterday

    http://www.alresalah.ps/en/index.php?act=post&id=2370

  46. Anon
    26 Jul, 2013 – 9:34 am

    “An excellent and timely post, Craig, not least because some of your followers think the sun shines out of Putin’s backside merely for his thwarting of some of the West’s evil schemes.”

    Which followers are you talking about Anon? Any names?

    “One must, of course, be careful not to ‘go over to the other side’ – to start hailing Russia, Syria, Iran as paragons of civilized virtue and decency, as some here are wont to do.”

    Names please.

  47. @ Craig,
    You said:-
    “It is rather a commonplace sentiment that it is a terribly sad thing, that their community having suffered dreadfully in the Holocaust, the European Jews involved in founding the state of Israel went on themselves to inflict terrible pain and devastation on the Palestinians in the Nakba. Both the Holocaust and the Nakba were horrific events of human suffering. For this not startling observation, David Ward is removed from the Liberal Democrats. He also stated that, with its ever increasing number of racially specific laws, its walls and racially restricted roads, Israel is becoming an apartheid state.”
    You may care to consider that the world is round and what went around – sometimes does come around:-
    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Caribbean-leaders-to-seek-slavery-reparations-from-Europe | Jamaican News Online – JamaicaObserver.com
    http://blackagendareport.com/blog/62

  48. “Are you trying to mislead Juteman? Perhaps you’re anti-independence laddie.”

    Hey Juteman, you’re a traitor because you criticised the Scottish legal system which like the Scottish government and everything else Scottish is perfect and can do no wrong.

  49. “A bit like saying, for example, that Doug Scourgie isn’t intelligent because Herbie and Macky aren’t intelligent EITHER, isn’t it?”

    Or a bit like saying for example the infant mortality rate in Palestine isn’t appalling because the infant mortality rate in Ethiopia is as bad.

  50. In the back pages:

    “George Galloway’s ex-secretary faces charges over data protection”

    “Aisha Ali-Khan charged with data-protection offences allegedly carried out while she was working for Respect MP last year”

    “A Met police officer based in the counter-terrorism unit S015, Detective Inspector Afiz Khan, known as Alfie, was also charged with two related counts of misconduct in a public office and four counts of data-protection offences between May and September 2012.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jul/25/george-galloway-secretary-ali-khan-data-charges

  51. @ Hab,

    You posted:-

    “Scarlet Pampers’ statement that the “USA does not have a functioning criminal justice system at all either” is tosh.”

    Well – just look at:-

    1. US criminal justice system’s rates of incarcerations of minorities versus whites – and relative to the same offence.

    2. The “buyability” of the criminal justice system in the US when one weighs nature of crime relative to quality of defence representation related to the defendant charged.’

    3. Forget the laws as drafted in the US criminal justice system – and just ” stand your ground – Hab”

  52. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 7:29 am

    There has been terrible slaughter in the square at the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque overnight. There are reports that 70 people have been killed with the army using live rounds.

    The propaganda machine yesterday was putting out stuff about Morsi’s links to Hamas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/23464016 – Jim Muir who is usually in Lebanon reporting on Syria!

    Strange that. There have been the same difficulties for the Palestinians attempting to leave or enter Gaza at the Rafah gate during the period of Morsi’s presidency as there were in Mubarrak’s time.

  53. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 7:57 am

    Did anyone hear Welby on Radio 4 Today yesterday?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03775fr/live 8.10am 16mins

    This archbishop came over as shallow and an apologist for capital, including the most aggressive usury. He discussed the niceties of interest rates. He even gave Wonga a pat on the back. They are very professional and keep good books. Wow!

    Pay day loans are a great wart on our nation and imho utterly amoral with their massively high interest rates into 1000s of percentages. Yet he spoke using all shades of grey. He made no mention of why, ‘in our depressed areas’, people turn to loan sharks. Their employment opportunities are poor or non-existent and unlike the elite, probably their education too. The wages too are poor if there is employment and rents exorbitant.

    And then there is the list of amoral Church Commissioners’ investments which include hotels who profit from pornography on the bedroom TVs (and Visa too) and gambling. ‘Very difficult, many facets.’

    We have a ‘dog eats dog’ society, which the ex Big Oil rep will not impinge on at all. You could feel his lack of real concern, and John Humphrys drew it out well.

    He is very obviously a Cameron ‘pick’ to use the US word. Should he even be a priest, let alone an Archbishop? He is a lightweight and cannot give any moral leadership.

  54. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 8:06 am

    John Pilger comments on our present condition and exhorts us to take action.

    How We are Impoverished, Gentrified and Silenced … and What to Do About It
    The Age of Regression

    by JOHN PILGER
    London

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/26/the-age-of-regression/

    [..]
    How long can the British watch the uprisings across the world and do little apart from mourn the long-dead Labour Party? The Edward Snowden revelations show the infrastructure of a police state emerging in Europe, especially Britain. Yet, people are more aware than ever before; and governments fear popular resistance – which is why truth-tellers are isolated, smeared and pursued.

    Momentous change almost always begins with the courage of people taking back their own lives against the odds. There is no other way now. Direct action. Civil disobedience. Unerring. Read Percy Shelley – “Ye are many; they are few”. And do it.

  55. Sofia Kibo Noh

    27 Jul, 2013 - 8:09 am

    @Flaming. 7 57am

    “Should he even be a priest…?”

    Of course he should. I’ll let Dave Allen explain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u6XXOELs_s

  56. Today Bradley Manning will probably be sentenced to life-imprisonment by a US military court for telling the truth. That being the case we must never stop campaigning for his release. One day he will be free. He will be awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace among the other awards he has won. Even when things seem desperate we must never despair.

    Success! Sometimes writing in support of a fellow-writer, coupled with other support from charities and the free press, can help liberate those illegally imprisoned. It is heartening when this happens. My article in News Junkie Post in early June may have helped. But the good news is Shaye is now free.

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/06/04/the-united-states-of-extra-judicial-murder-and-imprisonment/

  57. I should have written Shaye is out of prison rather than free. He still cannot leave Yemen.

  58. Sofia Kibo Noh

    27 Jul, 2013 - 8:30 am

    Masque of Anarchy.
    Percy Shelley

    Stand ye calm and resolute,
    Like a forest close and mute,
    With folded arms and looks which are
    Weapons of unvanquished war.

    And if then the tyrants dare,
    Let them ride among you there,
    Slash, and stab, and maim and hew,
    What they like, that let them do.

    With folded arms and steady eyes,
    And little fear, and less surprise
    Look upon them as they slay
    Till their rage has died away

    Then they will return with shame
    To the place from which they came,
    And the blood thus shed will speak
    In hot blushes on their cheek.

    Rise like Lions after slumber
    In unvanquishable number,
    Shake your chains to earth like dew
    Which in sleep had fallen on you-
    Ye are many — they are few

    Men of England, heirs of Glory,
    Heroes of unwritten story,
    Nurslings of one mighty Mother,
    Hopes of her, and one another;

    What is Freedom? Ye can tell
    That which Slavery is too well,
    For its very name has grown
    To an echo of your own

    Let a vast assembly be,
    And with great solemnity
    Declare with measured words, that ye
    Are, as God has made ye, free!

    The old laws of England–they
    Whose reverend heads with age are grey,
    Children of a wiser day;
    And whose solemn voice must be
    Thine own echo–Liberty!

    Rise like Lions after slumber
    In unvanquishable number,
    Shake your chains to earth like dew
    Which in sleep had fallen on you-
    Ye are many — they are few

  59. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 8:40 am

    Some voyeuristic thugs and bullies reside within the Notts police force.

    Nottinghamshire officers disciplined after woman’s top removed

    Related Stories
    Misconduct case over pregnant arrest

    Three police officers who stripped a “vulnerable” pregnant woman naked to the waist have been disciplined.

    Lynnette Wallace was left semi-naked for 13 minutes and also put in handcuffs for 11 hours.
    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-23472511#

  60. I think the Masque of Anarchy, which contains the lines “I met murder on the way, he wore a masque like Castlereagh . . .”, is one of the poems which helped get Shelley sent down from Oxford. It is one of my favourite poems. Ironically the university now has a statue of Shelley (naked of course) to commemorate him having studied there, which either demonstrates an advancement in academic tolerance or extreme cynicism.

    http://spenceralley.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/shelley-memorial.html

    We are many – they are few. Just remember that. Let’s bring down the Bilderbergers!

  61. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 8:52 am

    Ah thanks Sofia. Dear Dave Allen. I loved his dry wit and the sketches were so imaginative and at the time, in the late 60s and early 70s, his anti-clerical and anti-establishment act was quite radical and outrageous.

    I like the Bishop’s crozier in this YT. :)

    Sadly I did not know that he died aged 68 in 2005.
    He was lovely. RIP.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Allen_(comedian)

  62. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 9:18 am

    From Hidari on Medialens

    “UK PM David Cameron and Claire Perry say that they plan on forcing Britain’s ISPs to have a “default-on” censorship app for every connection in the UK. But the UK Open Rights Group have been talking with whistleblowers from the ISPs that have met with the government’s censorship grandees, and they report that the censorware will come equipped to block an enormous swath of legal Internet content, and unless you untick the boxes, this will all be censored for your Internet connection:

    Do you want to block

    ☑ pornography
    ☑ violent material
    extremist and terrorist related content
    ☑ anorexia and eating disorder websites
    ☑ suicide related websites
    ☑ alcohol
    ☑ smoking
    web forums
    ☑ esoteric material
    ☑ web blocking circumvention tools”

    http://boingboing.net/2013/07/26/uk-censorwall-will-also-block.html

  63. When dark shadows cloud the sky a ray of hope can break through. Manning the 2013 Peace Prize winner. Congratulations to him.

    http://www.uspeacememorial.org/PEACEPRIZE.htm

  64. Sofia Kibo Noh

    27 Jul, 2013 - 9:21 am

    @Flaming. 8 52am

    Yes he was lovely. Too good to shine in his home country, controlled as it was at the time by clerics. Ironic that he was finally brought down by using one rude word.

    @Jon.

    Yes. Let’s!Let’s!

    https://www.healthyskepticism.org/files/soapbox/peter/bigfishlittlefish.gif

  65. Winning the Peace Memorial Prize is a great demonstration of “We are many – they are few”.

  66. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 9:25 am

    Egypt Bans Gaza Fishermen From Its Waters

    NEWS / Posted by Friends of Al-Aqsa / Friday, 26th July, 2013 http://foa.org.uk/news/egypt-bans-gaza-fishermen–from-its-waters

    The head of the Palestinian Syndicate of Fishermen in Gaza, Nizar Ayesh, said that his organization was not officially informed that Gaza fishermen were no longer allowed to sail in the Egyptian waters.

    “Egyptian gunboats always watched the borders between Gaza and Egypt, yet never banned any Palestinian boat from sailing to Egypt before last week,” Ayesh told Al-Monitor in an interview at the seaport on July 25.

    Darweesh al-Assi, 43, a fisherman for more than 35 years, said that he always fished in the Egyptian waters before he heard from his colleagues that it was no longer permitted.
    [..]
    Ayesh explained, “Gaza fishermen escape the Israeli violations and the restricted zone to the Egyptian open zone, but now their space is totally besieged.”

    In addition to limited fishing zones, Gaza’s fishermen are also suffering from a lack of fuel after the Egyptian military demolished many smuggling tunnels stretching under the borders between the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula.

    ~~

    UN and world bodies, Quartet Envoy, John Kerry, William Hague – silence.

  67. The police who ‘mishandled’ Ms. Wallace have obviously no idea of the sanctity of life, what pregnant women go through, or what normal public decency would demand in such a situation.

    Instead they displayed gang culture, rude bad manners, a surprising lack of humanitarian knowledge as well a predilection to overreact and use violent means on an unborn.

    Those who question that a foetus feels the stress and hears the shouts of its aggrieved and sobbing mother, please consult someone about it.

    I question police education and the selection process, somewhere within it, there is a moral override being implanted in these young malleable minds, anybody who does not think critically is accepted, utter loyalty is demanded regardless and ‘UEBER ALLES’, hail to the political party of the day, we will protect those who extend out franchises and licks the arse of our police federation.

  68. Defense’s closing arguments in Bradley Manning trial

    https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/sites/default/files/072613amsession_F.pdf

  69. From the defence summary posted by Dreolin at 9.34 am.

    “He wanted the information, he believed that it would have impact on entire world. And the Government says, entire world, that includes the enemy.”

    The United States has difficulty in understanding that the entire world, with one or two exceptions, sees it as ‘the enemy’ although little is likely to change the sentence. These things are rarely settled in court when there is no jury.

  70. Flaming June, these categories all fit into one,i.e. News, why the heck can we not opt out of news channels?

    Is it because its filtered and purified for us, content displayed is not what’s in the tin, fortuitously prattled and smothered with their own excretions.

    Can’t think why there’s no opt out for news channels. I have not looked at a BBC site, sorry those who still proffer their propaganda, for over a year now and it feels better already.

    The electronic control tools are now so sophisticated and in almost every gadget form car, TV to phone, that I expect a movement away from it, something authorities would hate.
    Imagine all those posting here, disbanding their cell phones after making explicit noises to go somewhere or other. If all of us not paying a TV license because we have junked our sets in disgust at their blatant bias, self centred navel gazing, and corporate/political arse licking use of OUR BBC, basically if we are ‘uncontrollable’ or traceable by electronic means, that would worry them tremendously, especially if it is an exponentially growing number of us.

    Because everything they do is about control and management of news trivia and traditionalist rigmarole/mania, as we have seen during the last five days.

    Control freaks can’t stand not knowing what we do.

  71. “A race to generate Jews, courtesy of the Israeli government”

    ‘For the past few weeks, radio spots have been urging Israel’s non-Jewish citizens to register for an accelerated conversion process.’

    “Under the influence of Habayit Hayehudi, the government has launched a race to generate Jews. MK Ayelet Shaked likes to talk about the country’s unique character as a type of armor, but what she’s really getting at is protective, human armor with a Jewish hue, which will shield her against all those who are not like her.

    “All this racism is compressed into a two-minute public-service ad, which is supposedly light and positive but in truth embodies the essence of everything that’s rotten about the government’s priorities. The rot is not achievable per se, since it was already achieved long ago. Now it is also being celebrated.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/1.537865

  72. “US-Australian military exercise rehearses for war against China”

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/27/tali-j27.html

  73. Hi Kempe,

    Unfortunately the case for Assange being the victim of a US conspiracy comes unstuck when you notice that the release of the American diplomatic cables didn’t start until the 28th Novemeber 2010; eight days after the arrest warrant was issued and nearly 3 months after the rape complaints were first made.

    I’m not sure the 20th November 2010 date you suggest for the warrant vis a vis Cablegate publication quite pans out. IIRC, the Swedish domestic warrant was put before the Stockholm District Court (without informing Assange’s Swedish defence lawyers) on 18 November, that was appealed to the SVEA Court on 24 November, failed there and the Swedish Supreme Court refused to hear a further appeal on 26 November. The international European Arrest Warrant was issued on 27 November, two days before the start of Cablegate. (This was, in fact, sent back by the British SOCA unit because it was invalid as it correctly stated Assange was sought for questioning. A second EAW with a more – how to put this? – naunced wording was issued on 6 December.

    But doesn’t your whole argument fall apart by considering that the US State Department had been aware for many months – from at least the point where Adrian Lamo handed over his chatlogs with Bradley Manning in May 2010 – of exactly what Wikileaks had in their possession and were likely to publish soon?

    But what about Barack Obama’s public announcement on 10 August – the day before Assange even travelled to Sweden – that Britain, Germany, Australia and other allied Western governments should open criminal investigations into Julian Assange and limit his travel?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/08/10/a-western-crackdown-on-wikileaks.html

    You do realise, don’t you, that Assange was under Swedish intelligence surveillance the entire six weeks or so he was in Sweden?

  74. “What commitments has the Labor government made to US war plans?”

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/25/inte-j25.html

  75. Komodo, 8.49pm yesterday

    For breaking no law, but merely for uttering an opinion.

    Something’s badly wrong there.

    I was reminded yesterday of the case of Tarek Mehanna, the 29 yr old US pharmacist sentenced to 17 years as a terrorist for “material support” by merely providing translations of texts on jihadist websites. Glenn Greenwald published Mehanna’s sentencing statement, read to the court just after that sentence was handed down. A powerful and moving statement on what free speech means in the Land of the Free nowadays:

    http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/the_real_criminals_in_the_tarek_mehanna_case/

  76. Hullo Craig,

    May I summarise things thus?

    In Russia one may not criticise Putin because Putin rules Russia.

    Yes? Might we declare that inarguable? Okay then, what of the following?

    In Britain one may not criticise Israel because…

    Rather an easy solve I’m afraid but that’s ipso facto for you.

  77. Ben Franklin, yesterday 4.26pm

    But, the way the military has treated the journalists covering this story, I’m not sure of Judge Lind’s autonomy.

    An even more telling sign of that is the fact she’s already been given a promotion – to the same court where Manning’s appeal will be heard:

    “Schenck said Lind has already been informed that she will take up a new position, as a judge on the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals, when the Manning trial ends.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/more-than-bradley-mannings-fate-lies-with-judge-denise-lind-in-case-about-leaking-info/2013/07/24/fb546d14-f496-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_story_1.html

  78. Nevermind what is the word on that unfortunate environmental protester who was injured in Norfolk?

  79. Doug Scorgie, 11.57pm

    That means the Main Stream Media is the enemy.

    and

    Of course the alternative to the BBC is a private corporation like Fox TV but whatever model of funding, the state would hold the upper hand as with the so called “free press”.

    You may be interested in this. It’s a speech given yesterday by Julian Assange to the Australian Splendour in the Grass festival. In it, he outlines an interesting idea for increasing the plurality of alternative voices and other forms of freedom of speech/expression, music, etc to combat the malign effects of the “media-ocracy” – namely, a Content Fund similar to an author royalties scheme based on stats of the 100,000 most-loaned titles from public lending libraries. I know nothing of how that original scheme works in Australia, so can’t comment on it, but I thought the most interesting aspect of the idea was that Assange said this Content Fund would be funded from the Defence budget. He obviously has some pretty radical ideas about how one builds “a strong and independent military” – something he’s also called for in the Australian context.

    Worth a listen:

    http://vimeo.com/70982502

  80. Jonathan Cook (who lives in Nazareth) on medialens on his account of his travels across the US and how he was treated by security at airports.

    Jonathan Cook comments on the US security and surveillance state
    Posted by The Editors on July 27, 2013, 9:21 am

    Via Facebook:

    The extent to which the US has become a security and surveillance state was illustrated to me that last time I travelled there, a few years back on a book tour.

    I had 10 internal flights to make over the course of 2 weeks. When I was pulled out of line and taken for “extra security checks” on the first flight, I was told by the official that I was unlucky because such checks were entirely random. Except I kept being unlucky. In fact, I got extra attention on nine of my 10 flights – and I suspect that the occasion I wasn’t subjected to the extra checks was simply an oversight. I noticed that I had a large red “S” scrawled on my flight stub, as I did on the others. Presumably the security people missed it.

    I am reminded of this by a story showing that the FBI has had under surveillance the website anti-war.com, a place I have published on many occasions, for more than a decade.

    /..
    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1374913298.html

    ~~~~
    Antiwar.com Under Surveillance

    The FBI doesn’t suspect any crime but monitors the site anyway—and this fits a pattern of targeting journalists who probe state secrets
    By Kelley Vlahos • July 25, 2013 http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/antiwar-com-under-surveillance/

  81. Arbed at 10.30 “You do realise, don’t you, that Assange was under Swedish intelligence surveillance the entire six weeks or so he was in Sweden?”

    I would be very surprised if Anna Ardin’s flat was not bugged with cameras from the day he arrived, especially with her known connections to various Swedish embassies. It has always puzzled me why she was not there to meet one of the “coolest” people in the world, and why she could not postpone a visit to her family in order to see Assange. The whole honey-trap was buzzing.

  82. I wondered how Tristan Anderson was. He was shot in the head by an Israeli tear gas canister in 2009 whilst on a protest in Ni’lin. Alison Weir reports on the NYT piece.

    Weekend Edition July 26-28, 2013
    Myra Noveck & the New York Times:

    Another Journalist with Children in the Israeli Military

    by ALISON WEIR
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/26/another-journalist-with-children-in-the-israeli-military/

    Jonathan Cook drew attention on his Facebook page to the above article. He also writes about Michael Hastings’ unusual death.
    https://www.facebook.com/Jonathan.Cook.journalist?hc_location=timeline

  83. Flaming June, thanks for posting the two links in your last regarding the US secret services surveillance of anti-war. It is par for the course. What governments fear most is that good journalists will expose their lies and corruption and confirms the old adage:

    The pen is mightier than the sword.

  84. John Goss says:

    “You do realise, don’t you, that Assange was under Swedish intelligence surveillance the entire six weeks or so he was in Sweden?”

    John do you have any links to articles on this issue? This puts an entirely different complexion on the whole stinking affair. The notion that Anna Ardin later complained could indicate that Assange did not co-operate once the trap was sprung on him, and Ardin’s complaint followed soon after.

    Also I have always had a nagging doubt that Assange could be an SIS asset after his arrest for Nortel hacking. Any ideas to prove, or disprove such a notion?

  85. @ Nevermind.

    Ideal would it not be too be able to purchase radio with “news opt out”.

    I for one would pleasantly have in the earshot of sympathetic minds.

    Stupidity could raise many a question new’s night, vulnerbility is present all the same.

    @ Jon Goss

    Isn’t it funny a bear likes honey;
    Buzz Buzz Buzz;
    I wonder why he does.

    If Bears were bees they would build there hives at the bottom of trees

    And if bees were bears they wouldn’t need to climb all those stairs.

  86. Passerby, I don’t know where Arbed gets all his information from but it is usually accurate.

    Most security services set up profit-making companies. Public relations companies are a favourite because the agents within them have access to the highest level of government and the most influential people. Prime is the biggest in Stockholm.

    No ideas about your ‘nagging doubt’ but seems very unlikely he was ever an SIS asset. When he hacked into Nordex he was too young to be an asset of any country.

  87. George Quinn says:
    July 24, 2013 at 17:29

    lucy wangari decourcy says:
    July 27, 2013 at 12:42

    http://dpac.uk.net/2013/05/hardship-paymentsbudgeting-loans-and-short-term-advances/#comment-18064

  88. My favourite picture from the International Day of Action (today) for Bradley Manning:

    https://twitter.com/jaraparilla/status/360730052813537281/photo/1

  89. John Goss says,

    When he hacked into Nordex he was too young to be an asset of any country.

    John my fault, for not being more specific. After Assange was arrested, charged and tried, he was given a $2100 (Australian) fine. Although judge indicated that he could have been jailed for ten years, however due to coming from a broken home background he was only fined. Later he helped the police. Although throughout he has plausible explanations, but given the extent of the duplicitous, cunning, crooked modus operandi of the SIS there could also be a case of Assange being an asset.

  90. Passerby, please provide independent evidence that supports any hypothesis that Assange is someone’s bitch. Otherwise it’s just dreamy speculation with zero analytical value.

  91. Flaming June

    27 Jul, 2013 - 2:16 pm

    Those in Cambridgeshire and Peterborough needing NHS care at the end of their lives will be receiving it from the likes of Branson’s Virgin Care, Serco or Circle Health!

    NHS privatisation fears deepen over £1bn deal

    Biggest health contract yet – for services including end-of-life care – is condemned by Labour as ‘audacious sell-off’

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jul/26/nhs-privatisation-fears-deepen-deal

    Footnote of the article:The slice of the NHS’s £100bn a year budget going to non-NHS providers has risen from £5.6bn in 2006-07 to an estimated £8.7bn by 2011-12, according to a recent analysis by the Institute of Fiscal Studies and Nuffield Trust health think tank.

  92. Passerby, I doubt it, although all things are virtually possible. He probably had to help the police as a kind of plea-bargain. I doubt Gary McKinnon has had a holiday since he was saved from extradition. If that makes him an asset then I guess he is. But let’s face it Assange has released documents into the public domain that would not have allowed for his freedom if he had been an asset of the secret services. I’ve noticed others have speculated about him being an agent but neither Assange nor the intelligence services have claimed he ever was an agent – unlike say, Edward Snowden. Why hide the fact. Andrea Davison doesn’t and she was once in exactly the same position Assange is in now but she has never denied working for MI5/6.

  93. Someone says;

    lucy wangari decourcy says:
    July 27, 2013 at 12:42

    Jus one more thing is please can you consider me because I didn’t want to go through this because I never claimed benefit before but this is my first benefit but to much for me as I didn’t want it to happen I was going to work and had accident on 16 jan 2013 and im still having too much pain my shoulder so when I don’t eat im not strong and looking for job I got to go to libraly please is just cant understand why I cant get at least some money to make me eat and do some things. I have been in advise bureau but they couldn’t do nothing please advise me where and what to do. Thanks for your consideration

    It is the most disgusting situation in which the banksters get their gambling debts transferred onto the nation’s balance sheet, whilst we cannot feed the desperate people who are chasing the imaginary jobs in the imaginary flourishing economy.

    We are all Lucy! Only lagging behind her by a week in funds. The plutocrats’ overseers are drunk on their achievements; less in budgets for the social security, and for the NHS, they are going to start introduction of charging for the GP visits, first it was the “illegal immigrants” who had to pay because they were the cause, and now we all need to pitch in and to keep our services going!!

  94. Passerby, 12.43pm

    First, can I point out that I don’t 100% endorse John’s view that it’s a honey-trap, or at least that it was one from the very start. Although that is a distinct possibility, it’s very far from being proven. My comment was merely meant to show that the Swedish intelligence services were poised to take advantage of events pretty much immediately once they were in train.

    In any case, if it was a honeytrap all along, it is far more likely to come from Sofia Wilen than from Anna Ardin. Trust me on that.

    (Fun fact: Did you know that Enkoping, scene of the most serious allegation against Assange – the “half-awake” condomless sex incident – and home to Sofia Wilen, is also the home of the Swedish military’s PSYOPS headquarters? http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enköping#Milit.C3.A4rstaden – apparently, it’s about a 5-minute walk from her flat. Not many people know that, as Alfie would say…)

    Fun facts aside, the most obvious evidence that Assange was under surveillance during his time in Sweden comes from a combination of what Swedish journalist Johannes Wahlstrom says in his police witness statement about events after the 14 August seminar where Assange first met Sofia Wilen and the fact that the Expressen newspaper reported the following day details of Assange’s itinerary on that afternoon which only Assange and Sofia Wilen knew (ie. not even Wahlstrom knew where Sofia Wilen worked at the time when they discussed what Assange would do next when the three of them were alone together following the after-seminar lunch). Details here:

    http://rixstep.com/2/20120806,00.shtml

    Johannes Wahlstrom’s statement: http://rixstep.com/1/20110201,00.shtml

    So, where did Expressen get these facts they couldn’t possibly have known? Who was their source? Remember, this publication is two days before even the alleged incident, let alone it’s reporting to police three days later.

  95. John Goss syas,

    Why hide the fact. Andrea Davison doesn’t and she was once in exactly the same position Assange is in now but she has never denied working for MI5/6.

    You have a point there, however as you have added; He probably had to help the police as a kind of plea-bargain there lies the niggle. further, the wikileaks saga of the document release, and Assange getting involved with famous five (Guardian, et al) to a large degree forwarded the agenda of the neo liberal hacks. As with their early day releases, which had literally nothing other than bashing the usual suspects and enemies!

    Fact is as you point out, all things are possible, and given that we must remain vigilant and not to fall into the trap of personality cults. There lies the leverage for derailing any quest for the truth.

    Finally, I often wonder; has anyone ever read the rest of the documents released with the famous accidental publication of the passwords?

    _ – – – _

    Jemand says;

    please provide independent evidence that supports any hypothesis that Assange is someone’s bitch. Otherwise it’s just dreamy speculation with zero analytical value.

    I fully appreciate such an eventuality being in such an august company as yourself! Incidentally it a good habit to develop; reading the comments as they are, and not read into them!

  96. Arbed says;

    I don’t 100% endorse John’s view that it’s a honey-trap, or at least that it was one from the very start. Although that is a distinct possibility, it’s very far from being proven. My comment was merely meant to show that the Swedish intelligence services were poised to take advantage of events pretty much immediately once they were in train.

    I can subscribe to this notion, as ever when someone is down is the best time to kick them in the head, and given the spooks remit they would relish such an event.

    However, due to my lack of expert knowledge on this subject (and obviously many others too) I will accept your version of events readily, up until such a time that a convincing case to the contrary was forwarded by some other source. Thanks for clarification.

  97. .. andd thee attack on freea speeach …
    And i’ll say wot i fucking like you white nigger zionizt Cunts!

  98. I dont99‰ endorse j’$ viewz that… bla dee bblue

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