Elm Guest House 161

There is a huge amount of dancing on eggshells going on today in the media about the dossier on paedophile activity with which Leon Brittan came in contact in the 1980s. It is pretty plain there is a subtext here.

A number of people have contacted me for some years over the Elm Guest House paedophile ring. Frankly I did not particularly believe it, or thought it was exaggerated. But I confess my eyes have been opened by the Jimmy Savile, Cyril Smith and Rolf Harris affairs and the extent of complicity and even protection which they received from the establishment.

I have blogged before that, in the Savile case, as his behaviour was apparently compulsive and constant, I found it hard to believe it was not known in the very senior societal circles in which he spent so much of his time. I am convinced that perception was right.

Savile is not linked in to the Elm House paedophile ring, as far as I know, but Cyril Smith is. So were the then head of the Royal Protection Unit and of Special Branch. That to me raises all sorts of queries about whether they were not just participating themselves but protecting someone very senior indeed. I have been convinced that it is true that social workers interviewing child victims were indeed threatened with guns by Special Branch to drop it, and that paperwork has been confiscated and destroyed.

On Cyril Smith, Channel 4 Dispatches on 12 September 2013 reported that:

‘Speaking for the first time, former CID officer Jack Tasker tells the programme that Special Branch officers arrived at his office, told him to halt his investigations and demanded that the file be handed over to them,.“They made it quite clear that anything that was kept by us would bring repercussions if we didn’t hand it over; that as far as we are concerned, the inquiry is finished … you will take no more inquiries into Cyril Smith

Compare that to what happened to child protection officer Chris Fay in his Elm House investigation, as reported in the Express:

Mr Fay, 67, of south London, said: “It became very dangerous. People seem to forget that Special Branch could do what they liked, they were a law unto themselves.

“At one point they had me up against a wall by my throat with a gun at my head telling me in no uncertain terms that I was to back away if I knew what was good for me.

“A colleague of mine had the same treatment, as did a number of the volunteers. Victims who were actually abused at Elm House were also physically stopped from coming to speak to us at the NAYPIC office in north London.

“I witnessed Special Branch officers manhandling them and turning them away with a warning to keep their mouths shut. It was blatant, it was open, they were acting like gangsters.

In both Rochdale and in North London, Special Branch intervened to block the appropriate authorities on the ground from investigating what was a genuine paedophile scandal. I can see no other possible explanation than that the scandal involved figures a great deal more senior than Cyril Smith. From the Elm Guest House we have a pointer who some of those people were.

I really don’t want to blog any more about this, and I recommend you to have a search online. That involves trawling around some of the less pleasant parts of the internet, and I have seen material that is horribly anti-Semitic and anti-gay. But after years of dismissing the stories, on the grounds that they are promulgated by unpleasant people, in unpleasant newspapers, or cannot be true, I realise I was wrong.

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  • lwtc247

    I do not link to the Daily Mail, but this one is just slightly above that threshold…

    “Police lose 138 convicted paedophiles and many may have fled the country”

    I think it’s a pretty safe bet that the ones about which all the MSM fanfare is made about, are the expendables. It seems quite plausible to me that blue blood and useful politician paedo’s would deliberately bring in ordinary John Doe’s to provide distraction in the event that the usual intimidation fails or when investigators managed to get under the radar… just in case. If you were a kingpin of paedophillia, wouldn’t you?

    And yes thanks to Hatman 2 Jul, 2014 – 5:49 pm who pointed out the Haut de la Garenne cover up. Please Craig, research the work of Bill Maloney of Pie and Mash filsm and talk to him about the excellent work he has undertaken .

  • Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)


    During his time as one of Thatcher’s protected species, Brittan was outstanding even in that context as a Grade A platinum-plated creep.

    And this guy knows where the bodies are buried (maybe, I fear, literally):

    Nigel Pantling was one of Brittan’s two private secretaries from 1984. Asked whether he recalled the meeting, Pantling told Exaro: “I have no comment to make whatsoever. I am not saying that I can, I am not saying that I cannot. I have no comment to make whatsoever.”

    Possible translation: “I’m damned if I perjure myself for Brittan, and damned if I don’t.”

  • Phil

    RE: Haut de la Garenne

    If you like your information from more (ex) establishment types then look at what Graham Power has to say. He was the Chief of Police in Jersey who was illegally fired for allowing the investigation into Haut de la Garenne.

    Yet again another google search subject to censorship in the UK:

    If you prefer your search encensored use .com


  • nevermind, viva beautiful football

    I’ll second LWTC’s pleading, because that man has done a lot of work and he’s, no doubt, on a few hitlists but easy to discredit as he was subsumed by the system of ‘childcare’.

    The usual celebrity suspects have been sacrificed now we come to those who let were too selfish to ring the alarm buttons, those who look on, sigh and let it happen, because they are the gatekeepers who could have done something about it.

    I fear that some other calamitous incident will make this issue secondary, newswise. Control over people is at the heart of this despicable and sordid crime. When will we see interviews of those B actors, who has the report that Brittain ‘lost’? and why should this be the only trail to follow in any investigation of inquiry.

    Finally what use is an inquiry that has a brief that looks like blinkers on a horse?

  • lwtc247

    @ Clark.

    “Canspeccy, Nevermind, and Phil, I agree; the child abuse is just the means. The end is control via blackmail.”

    – How do you know? I mean, why are you so sure sexual perversion and indeed even satanism, is a non issue?. So these things in effect don’t exist or have no part to play in anything?

    From where I’m standing, it’s all of them. It’s also Talmudic.

  • Mary

    Five more Conservative MPs join cross-party call for CSA inquiry

    By David Hencke | 2 July 2014

    Five more Conservative MPs – including some party grandees – have joined the call for an overarching inquiry into child sex abuse.

    Meanwhile, Lord Brittan today issued two statements to explain what he did with a dossier on VIP paedophiles that was submitted to the Home Office in 1984. As Leon Brittan, he was then home secretary. List of 132 MPs who back the inquiry.


  • Phil

    For anyone not familiar with Haut de la Garenne:

    The union of rampant finance, ruthless corporations, corrupt politicians, compliant media, bent coppers, elite families and paedophilia in Jersey make a very real mafia state, a microcosm of the UK, all the more visible because of it’s small size.

    There have been many campaigners on this. For example ex Jersey Senator Stuart Syvret has been imprisoned and censored by google for his trouble.


  • Phil


    I agree with Clark’s analysis. Power through control is the end game.

    Of course perversion and even satanic rituals may be part of the process but that does not detract from what seems to be a struggle about power.

    Possibly the more satanic side is in itself a distraction conjured by the same forces that enable these crimes.

    Bill Maloney is a good man who has pursued this tirelessly. I am not even sure that he would not agree it is all about power. I think he does. However, possibly his focus is more driven by his own demons.

  • Bena

    Thanks for posting this on your blog.

    The evidence indeed points to a paedophile ring, the participants of which received (and still receive?) establishment and police protection. Yes, there are names and conspiracies floating about on the net, but there is nothing that amounts to proof.

    Three points:

    1. The CPS which has shown such determination to pursue people in the entertainment industry for lesser crimes has not (or cannot) investigate this matter.

    2. The evidence of special branch officers intimidating child protection officers with guns gangster-style suggests serious criminal activity which needs investigation.

    3. I understand why you don’t wish to blog on this matter further: you can draw inferences from information already in the public domain, but have no special access to evidence. It is a shame that this matter is not a subject of investigation by journalists working outside the restrictions of the UK.

  • lwtc247

    “but that does not detract from what seems to be a struggle about power.” – I don’t dispute it is used for manipulation/control, which raises the question WHO is doing the controlling?
    My point was that because people are lured into this in the first place, there must be ‘something’ in it that they want, which seems quite obvious that it’s sexual pleasure (albeit of a perverse nature) and judging by TheDuckShoot says (LB), there are elements of satanism in there too. To atheists however I guess such an issue wouldn’t really make sense.

  • Phil

    “My point was that because people are lured into this in the first place, there must be ‘something’ in it that they want.”

    Power. Money. Kicks. And maybe, although it is hard to believe, love.

    I guess we all struggle to understand paedophilia. It is almost too much to contemplate for most of us.

    Experts seem to say that it is a learned behaviour, a reaction to experience – it seems all paedophiles had childhood traumas. Usually sexual and violent. Perhaps the nexus with power can be partly explained by the harsh stories one hears about the public school system. Beatings, fags, submission systematically applied might tip some over the edge.

    Of course paedophilia is not a class issue. In my life I have come across far too much of it amongst poor people as well. However, I do think it is possibly symptomatic of an elitist patriarchal world that denies the communal and disempowers women.

  • Phil

    Google have received 50,000 requests to remove search results since the EU ruled this into law. You can get around this absurd law.

    Do not use google.co.uk

    Do not use google.com (because this will take you to google.co.uk)

    Do use google.com/ncr. This will take you dot com and thus not subject to repressive EU censorship laws.

    F**k the EU.

  • lwtc247

    I used to think ‘aanirfan’ was utter tosh,
    until I looked at it as satire-noir.
    Now I just look at as piss poor stuff.

  • Mary

    O/T Shillary’s in town. She was on Woman’s Hour. Expressed her deep admiration for Miliband and Hague and emphasized the special relationship. Indeed. She went on to describe in great detail the events leading up to the killing of OBL (the worst 35 minutes of her life were spent watching it happen she said) and she was so convincing, it sounded almost true.

    Smooth tongued and smooth voiced.
    Note we have a year in which to hear her
    Hillary Clinton
    Duration: 45 minutes
    First broadcast:Thursday 03 July 2014Hillary Clinton was offered the post of US Secretary of State in 2008 by Barack Obama who just months earlier had been her rival for the Democratic Party’s nomination for the presidency. She took the job and with it the challenges of representing her country on the world stage. She talks to Jenni about her new book “Hard Choices’, about the tough decisions she faced in shaping US foreign policy.

    In 1973 Billie Jean King performed in the most watched tennis match ever. She played former tennis champion and keen chauvinist Bobby Riggs in The Battle of the Sexes. In a treat from our Archive she talks about a documentary made to mark the 40th anniversary of the match

    Vera Brittain, author of Testament of Youth published a controversial pamphlet in 1943 which argued against the Allied use of saturation bombing in Germany during the Second World War. The German city of Hamburg, two thirds of which was destroyed by Allied bombs has decided to honour her by naming a canal after her. Her daughter Baroness Shirley Williams and her friend Helge Rubinstein travelled back to the City last week and describe what it was like to receive the honour which, for different reasons, celebrates both their mothers.

    I heard the end of the programme when the Zionist supporting presenter Jenni Murray* read out a message that had just been sent in. ‘Please run for president Hillary Clinton. You’d be the best grandnmother president in the world’. Yuk.

    She is on the One Show tonight. Matt Baker and Alex Jones were wetting their pants last night in anticipation of having this great woman on their show.

    * http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/amena-saleem/bbc-ignores-ethnic-cleansing-two-interviews-bedouin-activist

    I remember that Murray even managed to plug an Israeli in her piece on her hip surgery and medical problems.
    ‘I’m also going to join a class where an unfamiliar form of exercise is taught. It’s called Feldenkrais and was invented in Israel by an engineer who was also a judo expert.
    He worked out a series of movements based on the engineering of the body. It forces you to move your spine in every direction.’

  • MJ

    “Were the nation’s finest spies so incompetent they didn’t discover what apparently everyone else knew about Savile’s fondness for abusing children, or did they consider abusing children not a good enough reason to bar someone from employment?”

    In some instances it might be that paedophile tendencies are in fact a requirement.

    “as a regular visitor to Buckingham Palace he would have been exhaustively vetted”

    Indeed. It was perfectly fine for Prince Charles to spend the weekend at Savile’s Glencoe cottage, the place that had a room filled with children’s bunk beds:


    Then there’s the case of Paul Kidd, servant in the Royal household for over 20 years, sent down for paedophile offences in 1998:


    Also Rolf Harris of course, friend and esteemed portrait painter of the monarch.

    All vetted, all paedophiles, all welcomed with open arms.

  • Pete

    The Jimmy Saville allegations have been exhaustively analysed on http://www.annaraccoon.com, especially the allegations surrounding Duncroft Approved School where “Anna” was herself a pupil. They are full of lies, fantasies and impossibilities. The Broadmoor allegations are especially absurd to anyone who’s actually been there as I have. These allegations are exactly what you would expect to surface when the alleged perp is dead and therefore unable to sue for libel, there is no prospect of cross-examination in court, twelve million pounds of Saville’s money is on offer (minus legal fees of course!)plus compensation from the BBC and criminal injuries, the gutter media (which nowadays includes the BBC themselves) are in a feeding frenzy, and (above all) the police have abandoned their proper role of investigators and have taken instead the role of pseudo-counsellors “facilitating closure” and promising that all accusations will be beleived.

    This doesn’t mean that all similar allegations are false. It does mean that we’re treading in a minefield of lies, fantasies, and hidden agendas. Especially if the security services are involved, lying blackmail and concealment being after all their modus operandi. There are many fantasists, psychotics, and pathological liars operating in this field- check a few back issues of Nexus megazine if you want examples! But then again, the protectors of Authority who have something genuine to hide will encourage the most unbeleivable fantasists, feeding them disinformation, to discredit more substantial allegations. There’s also the complicating factor that psychotics, addicts, and even habitual liars do sometimes tell the truth, and are obvious targets for abusers due to their lack of credibility, poverty, and (often) background in coercive institutions.

    The Elm Guest House list lacks credibility IMO. Ray Wyre was, until his early death, the most highly-respected expert on the treatment of paedophilia in this country. He was involved in the PROSECUTION of many paedophiles, and was doubtless hated by those who rejected therapy and wished to continue their activities without interference. Colin Jordan was a notorious British Nazi. I can beleive most conspiracy theories (JFK, RFK, 9/11, Hess, UFO coverups, etc) but the idea of Jordan socialising with a senior member of Sinn Fein is a bridge too far. Most of the other names are just well-known gays or alleged gays- from an era (1980s) when even Boy George and Marc Almond did not admit to being homosexual.

    But Craig is right to raise this issue, however difficult it is to sort the brave (but often very damaged) truth-tellers from the (sometimes clever and well-protected) liars with their many differing agendas. We should never forget Hitler’s assertion that (approximate quote) “If you’re going to lie, tell the biggest lie and stick to it. Small people tell small lies every day, but haven’t the guts to tell a huge lie, and so assume that no one else would either.”

    If Smith, a very “local” northern politician, was really protected by SB, who are London-based, then this does suggest he was protected not for his own sake but for fear of whom else he might bring down with him.

  • Mary

    Gideon has no paedophile tendencies as far as we know. It was drugs and a black prostitute I seem to remember.

    Anyway some pushy parents have put their children up to appear in this filmed Q and A with him. Propaganda for next year’s election.

    Osborne: ‘I Could Have Done More’ For Economy

    The Chancellor is quizzed by readers of children’s newspaper First News in an exclusive interview for Sky News.http://news.sky.com/story/1293968/osborne-i-could-have-done-more-for-economy

  • Clark

    lwtc247, 8:53 am:

    “How do you know? I mean, why are you so sure sexual perversion and indeed even satanism, is a non issue?”

    Sexual perversion and Satanism are not non-issues, but they are personal. They help explain why specific individuals got involved. They don’t explain the protection by Special Branch and MI5.

    Satanism does make sense to atheists; it’s just another form of religion, and like all religions, it provides many of its participants with excuses to do appalling things and helps them believe stuff that obviously isn’t true.

  • Phil


    “The Jimmy Saville allegations have been exhaustively analysed on [some crap site], especially the allegations surrounding Duncroft Approved School where “Anna” was herself a pupil. They are full of lies, fantasies and impossibilities.”

    I followed your link. I didn’t find any exhaustive analysis. The couple of Duncroft articles I skimmed were far from this. Please explain how the allegations are disproved and maybe even link to a piece that offers more than opinion.

    “The Broadmoor allegations are especially absurd to anyone who’s actually been there as I have.”

    Please explain what about Broadmoor makes the allegations untrue.

    “There are many fantasists, psychotics, and pathological liars operating in this field- check a few back issues of Nexus megazine if you want examples!”

    Yes I would like examples! Any chance you can provide links rather than suggest we search a back catalogue for something we are not sure what it is?

    “from an era (1980s) when even Boy George and Marc Almond did not admit to being homosexual.”

    Ok. I’ve just realised, you are talking s**t. I should have read your whole comment before replying. Bye.

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