The Dysfunctional United Kingdom 2388


Recently an Angus mother of three infant children was separated from them and jailed for ten months for over-claiming £10,000 per year in benefits. Meanwhile the Duke of Westminster evades £3.6 billion in inheritance tax through a transparently fraudulent use of trusts which “have the option” to give the money to someone else instead.

The United Kingdom is a socially backward and sometimes vicious polity, an island which prides itself on the state enforced conservatism which allowed it to evade intellectually motivated reform and retain a historical legacy of gross injustice and privilege.

For historical reasons land reform is an immensely popular cause in Scotland, and one of so many areas where SNP timidity is a deep, deep disappointment. The fact that they are covered in buildings does not make the vast London estates of the Grosvenors any more acceptable than the unnecessarily empty Highland estates where golden eagles are destroyed so the chinless wonders, hedge fund managers and sheikhs can blast away at tame grouse.

The late Duke of Westminster is characterised as a “philanthropist” by mainstream media even though the percentage of both his income and his wealth he gave to charity was less than most ordinary people’s mite, myself included, and I am willing to bet that what he did do, was tax-deductible. That a parasite who sat on £9 billion of unearned money in a country where disabled people commit suicide from poverty, and who got two O levels from Harrow, was Prince Charles’ closest friend, cuts through the lying propaganda about the Royal family we are constantly fed.

The political class have a deliberate will not to enforce inheritance tax on the super wealthy. They have a political will not to tackle landlordism, which as it affects both residential and commercial tenants is a fundamental malaise of the British economy. Neither problem is technically difficult. The problem is that the political class as a whole are in the pockets of the super-wealthy, promote their interests and ache to join them.

Which is why in the UK it is important that the threat to them posed by Corbyn is maintained, and why in Scotland it is essential that the SNP membership now push their own leadership into bold action on fundamental land reform and Independence. To call the current SNP approach to both issues desultory would be excessively polite.

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  • Mark Golding

    According to the BBC the Syrian Civil Defence still put on the white helmets that have become their namesake and rush to the rubble to find survivors and to bury the dead. So far, they have saved 56,000 lives in Syria.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37171385

    I have an alternate hypothesis that suggests the White Helmets are perhaps being demonstrated to be the most crucial component of the US and NATO shadow state building inside Syria. Led by the United Kingdom this group is essential to the propaganda stream that facilitates the continued media and political campaign against the elected Syrian government and permits the US and NATO to justify their regime of crippling economic and humanitarian sanctions against the Syrian people.

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/06/21/who-are-the-syria-white-helmets/

    • Tony_0pmoc

      Mark Golding, I it wasn’t for you and a few others, I would never even look here.

      Thank You – You are a Gentleman.

      Tony

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Only yesterday John McDonnell said the NEC are purging Labour members who are voting for Corbyn and for being left-wing and he is right today Catherine Starr was suspended for posting stuff about veganism, anti-animal cruelty stuff and for swearing’:
    http://breakingdownthnews.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/labour-member-banned-voting-corbyn-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+$%7Bbreakingdownthenews%7D+($%7BBDTN%7D)

    How’s about this?

  • Republicofscotland

    Israeli “think tank” wants to prolong war in Syria and not destroy ISIS, because ISIS can be useful to Israel to destroy its enemies.

    “The think tank, known by its acronym BESA, is affiliated with Israel’s Bar Ilan University and has been supported by the Israeli government, the NATO Mediterranean Initiative, the U.S. embassy in Israel and the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs.”

    “BESA also says it “conducts specialized research on contract to the Israeli foreign affairs and defense establishment, and for NATO.”

    The illegal apartheid military state of Israel like the Great Satan (US government) wants to keep the region in a state of turmoil, as part of a means of fulfilling their own neferious plans.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/08/23/israeli-think-tank-dont-destroy-isis-its-a-useful-tool-against-iran-hezbollah-syria/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Why just talk about what Israel’s think tanks are suggesting when it has been waring and killing for decades in this purpose?

    Its Mossad even arranged the killings of the al-Hillis et al. in the hope to stickiing it to the troublesome Mullahs governing Iran.

    • Republicofscotland

      Well, I’d imagine BESA, has concocted quite a few vile and nasty ideas, which have since, been carried out by security services or proxy forces, associated with Israel.

      It’s in the rooms of those think tanks, that the illegal occupation of Palestine or the internationally illegal squatting of Israel in the Golan Heights, was probably first ponder over.

  • Republicofscotland

    IDF, shoot dead a Palestininan man, with mental health problems the man was unarmed, this unlawful and shameful killing, comes on the back of the death of a 15 year old boy, who was also gunned down by Israeli troops earlier.

    South Africa’s apartheid, wasn’t as bad as Israel’s blood letting of the oppressed Palestinian people.

    https://www.rt.com/news/357303-israel-palestine-dead-unarmed/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

  • Alan

    What a disaster on the M20 in Kent. I hope nobody here has friends or relatives involved.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Oh, right, Alan, one person being injured on the M20 bridge collapse compares with the Mideast blood bath!

      Am on the phone to see if I know this person.

      Why don’t you go down there and see if you know him or her?

      • Alcyone

        Good one Trow. It’s difficult to reconcile what such Mainstream-Sensationalist-Jerks are doing on a blog like this. In this instance it would appear that this lonely oaf is pining for appreciation.

        Good Lord it takes all sorts to fill up this place and this Planet. But the thing that irks me most is to see old people with greying hair but not an ounce of Wisdom. How do they muddle through?

        • Alan

          Tell you what Gormless, I haven’t got a grey hair on my head. So is this how a person of higher intelligence behaves, picking on disabled old men? Don’t give me this selective empathy shit. You either have empathy, or you don’t, and I might remind you that the owner of this blog lived in Kent until a couple of years ago, and people he knows might just be spending the night on the M20.

        • Alan

          Oh and how come a dullard like me has the power to irk a person of higher intelligence such as yourself. Please tell is all again, WHO has that power? ROFLMAO

      • Alan

        “Why don’t you go down there and see if you know him or her?”

        That’s east Cunt, because I can’t walk very far! Now FOAD!

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘The World Is Nine Meals From Starvation’:
    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/08/26/the-world-is-nine-meals-from-starvation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-world-is-nine-meals-from-starvation

    The World Bank is boldly proclaiming that extreme food shortages and subsequent food riots will take place in the near future largely due to the rapid increase in food prices.

    In their recent report, only released a few days ago, the World Bank cites the disturbing fact that there have been 51 food riots in 37 countries in recent memory due to high food prices and the further escalation of food prices has no end in sight. The World Bank further speculates that the present state of food prices could lead to political instability and this is the kind of stuff that wars are made of. And what is the number one cause of rising food prices according to the World Bank? It is the increasing demand (see attached PDF) for food from a growing population inside of China. The future military implications should be self-evident.

    The staple crop of wheat has risen 18% in the past year.
    Are Food Prices Being Artificially Being Manipulated for Purposes of Political Control?

    Before answering this question, it might be more prudent to ask if the food distribution system can survive the economic catastrophe’s which are poised to ravage the world’s economies and subsequent money supplies. If the dollar ever collapses, the rest of the world currencies will fall like a row of dominoes. If the multinational corporations are broke, how will food be shipped? Remember, the United States has a $17 trillion dollar deficit, a $240 trillion unfunded set of liabilities and the derivative debt is placed at about $1.5 quadrillion dollars! Setting aside your cognitive dissonance for a moment, what does your common sense tell you about the long-term viability of the dollar?

    There are even more dire factors to consider.The elite are busy buying up the world’s water supply as evidenced by T. Boone Pickens and his continuing acquisition of the Ogallala underground water aquifer which dominates water supplies from Texas to South Dakota. The Bush family has purchased water rights of a similar proportion in Paraguay and the globalist beat goes on. The bottom line is that there are too few people controlling a disproportionate amount of the world’s water supplies. And without the proper distribution of water, there is no food cultivation. Add to this concern is the fact that GMO’s are highly vulnerable to devastation because it is a genetic mono-crop..

    Some have speculated that food prices are being artificially being manipulated upward, through hording, in order to create a food shortage issue which could result in desired political instability and could result in a large scale war. This may or may not be true. However, what is undeniable is that the world is poised to experience a monumental food crisis that could kill off a significant number of the world’s population.
    The Historical Precedent of Using Food As a Weapon

    The two most notable examples of dictators using food as a weapon in order to destroy the free will of their people, comes from the regimes of Stalin and Hitler.

    Josef Stalin engaged in his own Soviet-style Holocaust when, in 1932 and 1933, an estimated six to 20 million people in the Ukraine died from starvation when Stalin implemented his prescription of “hope and change” policies in order to eliminate the Ukrainian’s desire for becoming their own nation-state.

    Upon assuming power, the Stalinist Communist regime rapidly nationalized the food industry and forced all of the region’s farms into collectives. This is exactly what is happening under the Obama administration and the dramatic rise of corporately owned farms.

    Stalin’s version of the Holocaust came to fruition in what history has dubbed, the “Holodomor,” in which millions perished in only a two year period when the Soviet government began to exterminate the Ukrainian population by taking control of food and food production. And why would Stalin do such a thing to his own people? The Ukrainians were discussing and publicizing some very dangerous ideas about freedom, liberty and the ability to act on their desire for political autonomy. Americans would be wise to heed this warning as despots hate freedom. The parallel between Stalin and collectivist farms and American corporately owned farms is very disturbing.
    Hitler proclaimed that food could be used as a tool “…to discipline the masses” and he did not hesitate to use the control of food as a type of carrot and stick in which he would reward accomplishment and punish failure as well as to ferment preferential class distinctions in which his armed forces received the largest food ration cards. Skilled workers who were engaged in industries critical to the building of the German war machine, received food ration cards which were slightly less in value. And, finally, the prisoners and the Jews received the lowest valued Nazi food ration cards. Food ration cards were also utilized as incentives to increase industrial production and were also increased in value when productive Nazi workers would be promoted. Food ration cards were diminished in value for the failure to meet Nazi production goals. Hitler’s use of what psychologists refer to as classical conditioning techniques reduced the will of the German population to a pack of Pavlovian dogs who were conditioned to be totally dependent upon the government for their survival. The presence of 50 million Americans on food stamps would certainly make an applicable parallel to Hitler’s practices and the potential for Obama, or another future president to follow in Hitler’s footsteps with regard to food management.
    When will it be our turn?’

    Another ‘wake up call’, which few will heed….

  • Republicofscotland

    So Jeb Bush’s son has been to Israel, performing the usual sucking-up tasks, like promising to stand with Israel, against the BDS movement etc, ad nauseam.

    George Bush, Jeb’s son compared Israel’s long struggles with that of Texas, and Netanyahu said:

    “Prime Minister Netanyahu compared the Battle of the Alamo to the Siege of Masada in 73 AD when Jewish rebels were heavily outnumbered by the Romans, and many paid the ultimate price,”

    Oh please someone pass the sick bucket, how about Bush and Netanyahu comparing the slaughter and systematic persecution of the Palestinian people on their on lands, with that of the white immigrant American settlers on the indigenous people of North America.

    It would appear to me that the Bush family and Netanyahu amongst other Israeli’s, actually believe the shit they spew out, as to be somehow righteous.

    It isn’t.

    http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/74460/jeb-bushs-son-visits-israel-urges-stronger-closer-business-ties-no-truer-friend-israel/#QkEMj41WY7SCFSLG.97

  • bevin

    Remember this?
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/26/in-the-shadow-of-the-cia-liberalisms-big-embarrassing-moment/

    “The death of Warren Hinckle, a journalist long forgotten outside San Francisco, brings back Ramparts magazine’s crowning moment, also one of crucial moments of postwar liberalism. At a stroke, in March, 1967, the presumptions of innocence by purportedly freedom-loving (albeit hawkish) prestigious intellectuals were stripped off. It turned out that the grand banquets and conferences with literary-and-other luminaries, the New York Times-reported cocktail parties, indeed the whole egghead-celebrity thing, was at base a CIA operation called, without irony, the Congress for Cultural Freedom. The list of collaborators was a long one, but Mary McCarthy, Irving Kristol, Leslie Fiedler, Dwight Macdonald, Sidney Hook and the Trillings, Diana and Lionel, among the most famous Americans, with European stars including Isaiah Berlin and Arthur Koestler at the top (Hannah Arendt in both categories). The Partisan Review, Encounter and a considerable stream of literary or quasi-literary journals existed, as it turned out, with the help of intelligence-agency donations……

    • Ben - "Talar du engelska?"

      I remember RAMPARTS as a no-bullshit mag that has not seen a viable replacement, especially Mother Jones which started ok but became shit. The Bay Area was full of intellectual dissidence like the Oracle and it was an electric time that’s just a memory now.

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Really interesting, Ben, to bring up Ramparts and Warren Hinckle.

        I added to the fire when Columbia was being taken over by the SDS in 1968 by recounting my troubles in the June issue about my getting my Ph.D. dissertation finally approved because of my handling of a plagiarism case in my class by the son of one of its most distinguished professors who was threatening to go to UCLA.

        I only got it by threatening to take it to court after it had been rejected by the faculty leader in overlooking the so-called innocent copying by the boy.

        He much later shared the Nobel Prize in Economics which sounded like just more copying as it talked about the great advantages of hedge funds aka another ponzi scheme

        ,Had forgotten all about Hinckle, and only recalled it by reading what I wrote years ago about being a college teacher when the world threatened to go nuclear on codshit.com.

        Plan to look up the June 1968 issue of Ramparts.

      • Ben - "Talar du engelska?"

        Academics are among the least flexible of all bureaucrats. You didn’t perform the obligatory obeisance they are entitled to especially when one’s personal research steps on their tidy-whiteys. Was that the issue?

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Right on the money, Ben.

        The professor leading forgetting about the plagiarism, Professor Robert K. Webb, was also a British historian who thought there was no place in his work for barrister and later Lord Chancellor Henry Brougham, taking at face value someone’s ,whose name I forget, claim that he was never captured in any photograph, meaning that there was nothing to him.

        Academics are obsessed with seeing their names and work captured in print. The first thing they look for in a book or paper is their name and work cited in the Indexes, footnotes and acknowledgements.

        They almost all live in boxes,

  • nevermind

    Turkey has been given carte blanche by the US, and Russia is stepping back from their support for the Kurds, and once again, the Kurds and the PKK are getting it in the neck. This time for taking Manbidj and many other places back from IS, helping us to keep up this farcical game. The Kurds deserve an autonomous place to call their own, this must be one of the outcomes of this instability in this region, unless it is in someone’s interest to keep this region in chaos or subjected to regular raids by Turkey.

    “On Wednesday, Shirwan Darwish, spokesman for the Kurdish military leadership in Manbij, issued a threat to Turkey during a conversation with DER SPIEGEL. “We have established our defensive lines on the Sajur River (west of the Euphrates) and will defend ourselves against anyone who even comes close to this line. It has been drawn with the blood of our martyrs.”

    These extermination exercises have happened before, but this time it might set the whole of Turkey alight.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/turkey-invasion-of-syria-highlights-shifting-alliances-a-1109649.html

  • bevin

    “It takes a lot of moola to fool around with national magazines, regardless of their politics. It takes even more if the paper is hell bent on shoving a hot poker up the rear end of the Establishment, as that editorial posture is not conducive to a massive influx of advertising dollars…a lot of people on the left still cherish the idea that Ramparts went under because I bought people drinks.” – Warren Hinkle”

    Jeffrey St Clair remembers Hinkle in his weekly column at Counterpunch:
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/26/roaming-charges-bernies-used-cars/

  • RobG

    This terrorist nonsense has all but destroyed our gite business this season; so there I am today, doing ‘a bit of gardening work’, which involved cutting back a very large hedgerow.

    It wasn’t too bad in the morning, but come early afternoon the temperature was hovering above 100F, and I’m out in the blistering sun doing heavy manual work. My employers, who are friends of mine, told me to knock it on the head, and to come back when the temperature was a bit saner; but no, I needed the money, so I got a fantastic suntan and probably lost half a stone in weight from all the sweat that came out.

    I’m boring you with this to give some indication of how this terrorist nonsense effects people, beyond the ‘fear, fear, fear’ rollocks.

    • Alcyone

      An Old Chinese Saying – If you want to be happy for a day, get drunk – if you want to be happy for a week, get married – if you want to be happy for a lifetime, become a gardener.

      [Then you won’t be like ‘Alan’ and ‘RoS’ when you’re (as the American Dennis the Menace would say) all growed up.]

      On a more serious note, I hope people, especially those who ‘practice’ meditation ‘techniques’ (essentially forms of self-hypnosis), get the profundity of this.

      • Alan

        Oh it’s got profundity has it? Well as you said, it’s an old Chinese saying, certainly not an American one. The American limit is “We came, we saw they died!”

          • Alan

            It could also be “We only pick fights with those we think can’t fight back”. Hey, it’s the American way!

          • Ben - "Talar du engelska?"

            He’s got a million of ’em, Trow. How human to lift one’s self-image by denigrating others.

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            As I recall, the USA didn’t start WWII with either Japan or Germany, and Truman refused to drop atomic weapons on the USSR when it was on its last legs.

            Has been pretty aggressive since, though.

          • Ba'al Zevul

            It was Hillary, as it happens, on Gadaffi: “We came, we saw, he died!”. Probably borrowed from the USMC whose tradition is pretty strong on bragging, though the picture of Shrillary enjoying 45 degree heat, in a sandstorm, under fire and harassed by camel spiders in order to include herself in that ‘we’, is oddly appealing.

            If your elite (or ours) feels the need to crow on the MENA dunghill – where a poor choice of rhetoric routinely costs thousands of lives – then it’s entirely legitimate to point it out. Perhaps “We came, we saw, he died, as usual we didn’t have a clue what to do next and the country’s now a worse threat to our interests than it was before, so we’ll probably have to kill some more people” , bears a closer relation to the facts.

          • Alan

            “He’s got a million of ’em, Trow. How human to lift one’s self-image by denigrating others.”

            Actually Ben, I was taught by Americans when I first got on the net back in the days of Windoze 95. They used to be so sanctimonious about the ills of the British Empire, but they’ve since gone very quiet now everybody knows the real size of the American empire.

            Except for the really dumb ones such as you and Alycone, that is.

    • Alcyone

      Rob, how are you coming along with quitting smoking? And, by the way, was that sweat you were dripping earlier, or all your wine turned into vinegar….just kidding of course. It’s a Big Step to quit smoking. Are you trying to quit ‘cold turkey’ or perhaps migrate to vaping? Perhaps even more beneficial than the Vit C that Lysias helpfully indicated, I would recommend Vitamin B-complex, which is good for the nervous system. And you can’t OD on that as any excess is readily dissolved and expelled.

      Good Luck!

      • Alan

        What do you care? Smoking is a self inflicted problem unlike the Mideast blood bath that is caused by America. Don’t tell me you have empathy for people with self-inflicted problems?

        • Alan

          Oh wait a moment, reading between the lines here, don’t tell me, the meditation “cured” your own smoking habit, Alcyone?

          And once again, please tell us again, who has the power to irk you, Baby? ROFL

          You are such an easy read!

          • Alan

            In fact, such an easy read, that Habba, deliberately IMHO, gave you some bullets, and you like a good little Zombie, fired them. How superior you are, Alcyone?

            Habba, I give you that one 😉

          • Alcyone

            You’re right, irk is the wrong word; saddens is more like it.

            And old, disabled people like you should have a licence here to tell other people to fuck off and die?

            You are beyond redemption, sorry you simply don’t have it in you. What a Life! This is how the witless eke out a Life? Put it under the microscope folks and see the waste of it.

          • Alan

            “And old, disabled people like you should have a licence here to tell other people to fuck off and die?”

            When they tell me to go somewhere, when even going outside is difficult? Yes, they can FOAD. Methinks you are on a hiding to nothing.

            “irk is the wrong word; saddens is more like it”.

            But surely your meditation is supposed to prevent this? Have you been sold a pup by your guru as well as by Habba?

          • Alan

            Alcyone grunted “What meditation, Retard?”

            At 18.30 you said, for all to see:

            “On a more serious note, I hope people, especially those who ‘practice’ meditation ‘techniques’ (essentially forms of self-hypnosis), get the profundity of this.”

            So “what meditation” is indeed the question peanut brain. What meditation did you refer to? Or are you just another American bullshitter on the internet?

          • Alcyone

            I was ridiculingso-called ‘meditation’ you Oaf, you really are mentally challenged, aren’t you?

          • Alan

            Alycone muttered “I was ridiculing so-called ‘meditation’ you Oaf, you really are mentally challenged, aren’t you?”

            Yes I am, it’s called Parkinson’s Disease, but I am still more than a match for anybody who needs a saviour, such as you with Krishnamurti.

      • RobG

        Alcyone, I managed to quit for a while, but yesterday, when I knew I had this gardening gig (ie, money coming in) I had a little relapse, but nothing major. I’m still determined to give up the smokes (and once again, thanks for all the excellent advice received on this board).

        I could also add that for someone in their early 50s, who’s used to copious amounts of wine and tobacco, I am very fit and strong, and can out distance most people half my age.

        Gawd, that’s tempting fate: I’ll probably have a heart attack next week.

        You are all invited to my funeral.

        • Alcyone

          Rob the Mind (‘thought’) will throw a thousand different ‘reasons’ (excuses) per minute as to why you should light up, even just this once. You simply have to bat away these thoughts like ping-pong and not fool yourself with any excuse. Put pen to paper and right down all the sane reasons as to why you should quit. Because you are fairly fit is not a reason to ab-use your body.

          Also drink copious amounts of other liquids: Water, juices, smoothies, iced teas etc etc to help you along and flush out the residual toxins. Know your triggers and be wary of them for the first week.

          You didn’t answer my question: are you trying to quit directly, or have you considered vaping as an alternative?

          • Alan

            I’m impressed! You sound like you really care, instead of this being purely an exercise in you getting some back-up.

          • Alan

            Of course, the one thing against you is “We came, we saw, he died”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

            And you are about to make such a person POTUS?

            Don’t give us your false empathy Alcyone. America is a death-centered culture and you are part of it, and the more you protest, the more guilty you look

          • Alcyone

            This honesty I can understand, but then why come here and tell people you are quitting smoking? Are you taking some vows?

    • bevin

      Interestingly enough I believe that he also donated millions to the Liberal Party. And yet he is still allowed to vote in the Labour leadership election, whereas….

      • Paul Barbara

        Yeh, tres interresant…the new ‘Labour Friends of McKarthy’ seem to be hell-bent on destroying the Labour Party as a Party of the People, which it threatened to become again….tweedle Repugnants/tweedleDemoprats’ style…

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Good to see that Sweden is no longer Britain’s lap dog, like in 1986 when it allowed MI6 to take over the security of its top officials, permitting PM Olof Pale to be assassinated, shortly thereafter.

    Now its Ceceiia Malmstrom, the EU commissioner on trade, has said that Britain will have a hard time withdrawing which has drawn the ire of Britain’s international trade minister. Liam ‘You-guessed-it’ Fox.

    • michael norton

      Brexit NOW: Theresa May to trigger Article 50 WITHOUT Commons vote
      NOTHING will stand in the way of Britain leaving the European Union as Theresa May is set to trigger Article 50 WITHOUT calling a vote in the House of Commons.

      NOTHING

      • michael norton

        Evil Professional Welshman Owen Smith
        set out his plans to disrupt the process.

        He said: “Under my leadership, Labour won’t give the Tories a blank cheque.”

        “We will vote in Parliament to block any attempt to invoke Article 50 until Theresa May commits to a second referendum or a general election on whatever the EU exit deal emerges at the end of the process.”
        Welsh TWAT

        • Alcyone

          Is Owen Smith an alcoholic?

          He’s had a cold for the last couple of days in the midst of this hot summer. Probably a build up of toxins!

          • Republicofscotland

            Alcyone.

            How you surmised that, I’ll never know, but then again, Krishnamurti had a active and very profitable imagination, is it any wonder then, the “World Teacher” pretended not to see himself as a wise guru.

          • Alan

            “He’s had a cold for the last couple of days in the midst of this hot summer. Probably a build up of toxins!”

            Now it has a licence to practise medicine on the web and make a diagnosis. What exactly are your medical qualifications Dummy?

        • glenn_uk

          Why not say “British TWAT” – or are you letting some bigotry shine through here, making out that being Welsh is somehow all part of the problem?

          • michael norton

            glennuk i called him a Professional Welshman

            therefore it is most fitting to also describe Owen as a WELSH TWAT

          • glenn_uk

            I read what you’d put down – it was still there, no need to repeat it.

            So you’re a bigot. Thanks for clarifying.

      • glenn_uk

        I don’t think obvious mistakes would need correcting. The intended meaning should be, well, obvious.

        • Ben - "Talar du engelska?"

          Uh huh. I think the point was there is a need for an edit button, obviously.

          • glenn_uk

            Good God, sir – you truly possess an intellect of mighty proportions.

            Just kidding! (Thought I’d better spell that out, because you have the humour of a sack of doorknobs.)

          • glenn_uk

            You’re right, Ben – you’re just _so_ right.

            My word, it must be incredible to be as intelligent and knowledgable as you. Gosh, I’m in awe just thinking about it.

            //cough//

            Sorry, did I cough just then? Must be the fumes from that extra-strong cannabis you keep bragging about – I – for one – am absolutely confident that your constant smoking this stuff doesn’t impair your mental facilities in the slightest. One only needs to read your posts to appreciate this.

    • John Goss

      Not just Olaf Palme but Bernt Carlsson in the Lockerbie mass-murder which was most likely funded by de Beers. Unfortunately the neocons are still in control in Sweden or all charges against Julian Assange would have been dropped long ago.

      • YKMN

        The swedish military are only interested in hunting furry things in forests.

        So I’m not quite sure which level of their society is new conservative in the worst way?

      • Republicofscotland

        Alan.

        You wouldn’t be Fred by any chance? Using the FOAD acronym is a favourite of Freds.

        As for your link it’s old news, in my opinion Scotland is becoming a more secular society, therefore a female police officer wearing of the Muslim persuasion, isn’t such a big deal. If I recall I think there’s already six on the force.

        Still I can understand how the idea, might upset the Rule Britannia, British Empire, narrow minded idiotic bigot.

          • Republicofscotland

            Apologies Alan, the top half of the comment was meant for you, the lower section for Alcyone.

            Anyway are you Fred, or do you just aspire to be like him, using this FOAD acronym?

        • Alcyone

          Let me understand this: by allowing police-men/women to wear their religion on their sleeve, in the case of the hijab it’s even doubtful whether it is sourced from religion at all, somehow makes for a more secular society? Curious.

        • Loony

          Republic – Are they experimenting with a new language in Scotland? If Scotland is becoming more secular (as you suggest) but at the same time police officers are walking around displaying religious symbolism then that would appear to be a big deal – not least for the contradictory nature of your statement.

          All statemments should be viewed in context and a relevant context in this case would be the discrimination suffered by a number of practitioners of the Christian religion. For example

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6165368.stm

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7863699.stm

          It would appear that you favor one rule for some and another rule for others. In English such a policy is best described as discriminatory – exactly the same as making black people sit at the back of the bus.

      • Republicofscotland

        Alan.

        You say that as if it would be a most terrible thing, do you not realise that your racist petticoat is showing.

        • Alan

          Oh do me a favour Ros, I married an Asian woman in 1988, and if she hadn’t got cancer and died we would still be married. Just quit your projecting onto me.

          • Republicofscotland

            Well Alan I’m all the more shocked then at your throwaway comment regarding Muslim women. You really should know better.

            My condolences on your loss.

          • Alan

            I mean, we could ask, what has made RoS a self-hating Englishman? Did you spend your teenage years as a skinhead RoS? Did you spend your weekends doing skinhead activities and thus you now have a guilty conscience driving you?

          • Republicofscotland

            Alan.

            Firstly I’m not an English man, I thought my support for Scottish independence would have made that patently obvious, a bigger clue Alan, (how you missed it is beyond me, listening to Habb again) is my username, you know the one with “Scotland” in it.

            Secondly I was never a skinhead, and no Alan I have no guilty conscience.

            Stumbling in the dark a bit aren’t we?

          • Alan

            What’s this RoS?

            http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nat-diehards-could-cost-nicola-8706267

            “Scotland is currently spending £15billion more on public services than we’re raising in taxes. Our deficit gap is worse than any EU country, including crisis-hit Greece.

            The only reason we’re getting away with it is because taxpayers in the rest of the UK are plugging the gap.

            This isn’t propaganda, spin or mainstream media bias.

            It’s the stark facts contained in a report put out by Sturgeon’s own government.

            What it boils down to is this – only a fool or a liar can claim Scotland could separate from the UK without years of extremely painful spending cuts and tax rises.”

            And that is straight from the SNP itself.

    • michael norton

      “The hijab has become an optional part of the Police Scotland uniform as the force works to encourage Muslim women to join the service.”

      I posted this some time ago but i was told I imagined it, as it was nonsense,

      Ms. Nicola Sturgeon?

      • bevin

        You seem to be obsessed with women’s clothing.
        There was a time when foolish people in Canada were obsessed with the Sikh turban: they were very exercised over the notion that Sikh Police officers might wear turbans instead of the traditional Mounted Police hats.
        Then it happened. And Nobody cares.
        Why shouldn’t muslim women wear had scarves? Why worry about it? Why shouldn’t there be a special dispensation allowing pious, old fashioned women to become police officers in Scotland?
        Who fucking cares?

  • Alcyone

    CHILCOT INQUIRY – ANSWER FOR IRAQ
    By Roger Bacon and Reg Keys
    Public Interest
    POSSIBLE PROSECUTIONS OF STATE OFFICIALS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE IRAQ WAR

    Funded
    on 19th July 2016
    £160,148
    pledged by 5148 people

    “Thanks to the overwhelming support and generosity of the British public and beyond, we have met our stretch fund-raising target of £150,000. We are humbled by the kindness each and every one of our donors has shown by backing us. Our legal team is now hard at work carrying out their task.

    Please watch this space for further updates.”
    https://www.crowdjustice.co.uk/case/chilcot/

    • Mick McNulty

      I didn’t chip in to this appeal though to most of them I do, even though I was against the war and I thoroughly despise Blair and I want to see that mass killer in the dock. The reason I felt awkward donating is, in an interview with Reg Keys some time after he lost his son he said in the beginning he agreed with Blair and the need for war – I heard him say it – and I can’t help but wonder, was it his loss that changed his mind, and if his son had returned from Iraq would he still agree with the invasion?

    • Alan

      What’s it got to do with you? Have you Yanks done anything to prosecute Bush?

      No! Because “We came! We saw! They died!” and nobody in the chosen nation gives a shit as long as it’s not Americans who are dying.

    • YKMN

      If any of these apps allowed even journos/politicos *real secret communications* then the app would not be available for use. I am aware of netEraser being a fully secret, cryptographically secure, useable communications program. Now try and find a copy?

      • YKMN

        It was available around the year 2000. . .
        Louie said SAIC scientists actually discovered netEraser by accident, working on weekends.

        “It wasn’t until we came along that they kind of pulled [netEraser] out of the back room and began to implement the technology in a way that would be useful not only for the CIA, but for anybody who has the need for security on the Internet,” said Louie, who joined In-Q-Tel late last year after selling his own video-game company, Microprose, to Hasbro for $70 million.

        SAIC officials tell a slightly different story, saying they had patented netEraser long before In-Q-Tel ever offered to provide development funding and had initially decided against any government involvement, fearing that many of SAIC’s clients in the federal government–the CIA among them–would insist on exclusive use of the product.

        SAIC changed strategies, they said, only after learning that In-Q-Tel insists upon commercial applications for all technologies that it funds.

        “It really is a new way of doing business that [In-Q-Tel] reached out with,” an SAIC spokesman said, crediting In-Q-Tel with speeding the development cycle.

        The SAIC spokesman said netEraser is to be used in tandem with an operating system, such as Windows, that is capable of rejecting undesired packets of information at high speeds. NetEraser is also capable of disguising a computer user’s identity, the spokesman said, by constantly changing a computer’s Internet protocol address.

        One CIA official who deals extensively with In-Q-Tel said SAIC’s technology is capable of rejecting thousands of packets per second that are not compatible with netEraser’s protocol. The technology, the official said, has both defensive and offensive implications for CIA spies, protecting their networks while enabling them to probe adversaries’ computer systems in anonymity

        WhatsApp levels of privacy are perfect for household shopping lists. I’m happy with everyone’s bulk personal dataset being filled with shopping lists, if will be amazing archeology for future sentient civilizations should we ever evolve beyond MIC, but I can’t see how journalists and judges can perform their oversights, as they are also bulk datasetted, surely by design.

        • Alcyone

          What does MIC stand for? Made in China? Just kidding, but i’d still like to know your use. Thanks for your contributions.

          • YKMN

            We are rather deeply entrenched in the epoch Holocene:Anthropocene:militaris industriae complexu

            The US President warned “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

            We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

            from: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

          • Alcyone

            Thanks. It’s not dissimilar to the TZGC–Type Zero Global Civilisation–I refer to.

            Humanity has taken a wrong-turn somewhere. Listen to K way, a very long way, back in 1980. The Future, my friends, is now:

            “So we are trying to find out, trying to observe together what is the cause of the extraordinary things that are going on in our life. What is the essence of that cause? Is it that the very beginning of man – and also woman – don’t get het up when I don’t mention woman – when man and woman began, is it that they took a wrong turn? Look at it please, go into it with me. Why should we suffer? If man is the creation of god, god must be a rather horrible entity, a monstrous entity that is making human beings go through hell. Right? He must be total disorder because we live in disorder – if he created us. If he created us and we are killing each other through terror, bombs, kidnapping – oh, you know all the terrible things that are happening in the world. If you are created in his image, that image must be monstrous. Obviously it is quite evident that man is responsible. Nobody outside of us, no gods, no angels, no Brahman, no higher – none of that is responsible for this, we are responsible. And what is the cause of this? You understand now? Is the cause selfishness? Is the cause the accumulated knowledge – please listen carefully. We are not against knowledge, knowledge is necessary – to drive a car, to learn a language, to operate any electronic… so on, so on, so on – knowledge is necessary. But the psychological knowledge that one has accumulated, generation after generation, is that the cause? Is it that the knowledge has been translated psychologically into concepts, into your belief and my belief – you are following all this? Please sirs, don’t go to sleep! If you are really deeply concerned about this, which everyone must be, why we live this way, so-called civilised human beings, with cars, marvellous surgeries, excellent communication, transport and all the rest of it, but psychologically inwardly, inside the skin, we have become terror, we have become the most dangerous people on earth. Right? We may be occasionally kind, occasionally loving, unselfish, but this separate individual unselfishness and so on has not solved the problem. It is not poverty, starvation, disease that is the problem, it is us, our consciousness.”

            Why is there such chaos in the world?
            http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/why-is-there-such-chaos-in-the-world-full-version.php

    • Alan

      France? You mean the “Cheese-eating surrender monkeys” and as for Germany whatever it was you bloodthirsty Yanks chose to malign them with?

  • YKMN

    Dunno about Craig’s meme of Dysfunctional UK, a serious journalist (well, Private eye Ed. contd P.94 & TW3. . .) in a prestigious UK news organization has just written a truthful article about the Ukraine furcup ( to borrow a Rowson )

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/27/thanks-to-the-eus-bungling-russia-will-inevitably-win-in-ukraine/

    I suppose he did it ‘cos he hates the EU, but it’s still true. (He doesn’t care much for science but this frustrated short piece in the Sunset Torygraph indicates that he knows a bit about international meddling) trebles all round!

  • Paul Barbara

    Just repioting, as it seems a bit long in being ‘moderated’:

    ‘Paul Barbara
    August 27, 2016 at 15:40
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    ‘The World Is Nine Meals From Starvation’:
    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/08/26/the-world-is-nine-meals-from-starvation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-world-is-nine-meals-from-starvation

    The World Bank is boldly proclaiming that extreme food shortages and subsequent food riots will take place in the near future largely due to the rapid increase in food prices.

    In their recent report, only released a few days ago, the World Bank cites the disturbing fact that there have been 51 food riots in 37 countries in recent memory due to high food prices and the further escalation of food prices has no end in sight. The World Bank further speculates that the present state of food prices could lead to political instability and this is the kind of stuff that wars are made of. And what is the number one cause of rising food prices according to the World Bank? It is the increasing demand (see attached PDF) for food from a growing population inside of China. The future military implications should be self-evident.

    The staple crop of wheat has risen 18% in the past year.
    Are Food Prices Being Artificially Being Manipulated for Purposes of Political Control?

    Before answering this question, it might be more prudent to ask if the food distribution system can survive the economic catastrophe’s which are poised to ravage the world’s economies and subsequent money supplies. If the dollar ever collapses, the rest of the world currencies will fall like a row of dominoes. If the multinational corporations are broke, how will food be shipped? Remember, the United States has a $17 trillion dollar deficit, a $240 trillion unfunded set of liabilities and the derivative debt is placed at about $1.5 quadrillion dollars! Setting aside your cognitive dissonance for a moment, what does your common sense tell you about the long-term viability of the dollar?

    There are even more dire factors to consider.The elite are busy buying up the world’s water supply as evidenced by T. Boone Pickens and his continuing acquisition of the Ogallala underground water aquifer which dominates water supplies from Texas to South Dakota. The Bush family has purchased water rights of a similar proportion in Paraguay and the globalist beat goes on. The bottom line is that there are too few people controlling a disproportionate amount of the world’s water supplies. And without the proper distribution of water, there is no food cultivation. Add to this concern is the fact that GMO’s are highly vulnerable to devastation because it is a genetic mono-crop..

    Some have speculated that food prices are being artificially being manipulated upward, through hording, in order to create a food shortage issue which could result in desired political instability and could result in a large scale war. This may or may not be true. However, what is undeniable is that the world is poised to experience a monumental food crisis that could kill off a significant number of the world’s population.
    The Historical Precedent of Using Food As a Weapon

    The two most notable examples of dictators using food as a weapon in order to destroy the free will of their people, comes from the regimes of Stalin and Hitler.

    Josef Stalin engaged in his own Soviet-style Holocaust when, in 1932 and 1933, an estimated six to 20 million people in the Ukraine died from starvation when Stalin implemented his prescription of “hope and change” policies in order to eliminate the Ukrainian’s desire for becoming their own nation-state.

    Upon assuming power, the Stalinist Communist regime rapidly nationalized the food industry and forced all of the region’s farms into collectives. This is exactly what is happening under the Obama administration and the dramatic rise of corporately owned farms.

    Stalin’s version of the Holocaust came to fruition in what history has dubbed, the “Holodomor,” in which millions perished in only a two year period when the Soviet government began to exterminate the Ukrainian population by taking control of food and food production. And why would Stalin do such a thing to his own people? The Ukrainians were discussing and publicizing some very dangerous ideas about freedom, liberty and the ability to act on their desire for political autonomy. Americans would be wise to heed this warning as despots hate freedom. The parallel between Stalin and collectivist farms and American corporately owned farms is very disturbing.
    Hitler proclaimed that food could be used as a tool “…to discipline the masses” and he did not hesitate to use the control of food as a type of carrot and stick in which he would reward accomplishment and punish failure as well as to ferment preferential class distinctions in which his armed forces received the largest food ration cards. Skilled workers who were engaged in industries critical to the building of the German war machine, received food ration cards which were slightly less in value. And, finally, the prisoners and the Jews received the lowest valued Nazi food ration cards. Food ration cards were also utilized as incentives to increase industrial production and were also increased in value when productive Nazi workers would be promoted. Food ration cards were diminished in value for the failure to meet Nazi production goals. Hitler’s use of what psychologists refer to as classical conditioning techniques reduced the will of the German population to a pack of Pavlovian dogs who were conditioned to be totally dependent upon the government for their survival. The presence of 50 million Americans on food stamps would certainly make an applicable parallel to Hitler’s practices and the potential for Obama, or another future president to follow in Hitler’s footsteps with regard to food management.
    When will it be our turn?’

    Another ‘wake up call’, which few will heed…… ‘

  • Paul Barbara

    @ Trowbridge H. Ford August 27, 2016 at 20:16
    ‘As I recall, the USA didn’t start WWII with either Japan or Germany, and Truman refused to drop atomic weapons on the USSR when it was on its last legs.
    Has been pretty aggressive since, though.’

    Hmmmn, come on Trowbridge, you must be aware the US Banksters and Corporations backed both sides, and that they wanted a war (WWII in particular) because wars mmean big, big profits.
    And you must also be aware thet the Banksters, Corporations, Military Brass and FDR wanted ‘in’ to WWII (‘Day of Deceit’ Robert B. Stinnett).

    • Alan

      “As I recall, the USA didn’t start WWII”

      That sure made a change didn’t it?

      An updated summary of the charming record of US foreign policy. Since the end of the Second World War, the United States of America has …

      Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of which were democratically-elected.
      Attempted to suppress a populist or nationalist movement in 20 countries.
      Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.
      Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.
      Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.
      In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69 countries (more than one-third of the countries of the world):

      Afghanistan
      Albania
      Algeria
      Angola
      Australia
      Bolivia
      Bosnia
      Brazil
      British Guiana (now Guyana)
      Bulgaria
      Cambodia
      Chad
      Chile
      China
      Colombia
      Congo (also as Zaire)
      Costa Rica
      Cuba
      Dominican Republic
      East Timor
      Ecuador
      Egypt
      El Salvador
      Fiji
      France
      Germany (plus East Germany)
      Ghana
      Greece
      Grenada
      Guatemala
      Honduras
      India
      Indonesia
      Iran
      Iraq
      Italy
      Jamaica
      Japan
      Kuwait
      Laos
      Lebanon
      Libya
      Mongolia
      Morocco
      Nepal
      Nicaragua
      North Korea
      Pakistan
      Palestine
      Panama
      Peru
      Philippines
      Portugal
      Russia
      Seychelles
      Slovakia
      Somalia
      South Africa
      Sudan
      Suriname
      Syria
      Thailand
      Uruguay
      Venezuela
      Vietnam (plus North Vietnam)
      Yemen (plus South Yemen)
      Yugoslavia

      http://mattiasalmloef.com/?p=1416

      http://friendlydictators.blogspot.co.uk/

      http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/at-last-cuba-is-free-to-become-more-like-the-glorious-us-of-a-9934482.html

      9) Ex CIA personnel themselves describe their involvement:
      a) In the downing of PASSENGER jet, Korean Airlines Flight 007 over Siberia on August 30, 1983.
      b) In the downing of PASSENGER jet, July 3, 1988, when the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian civilian airliner over the Persian Gulf, killing 290 people, an act which President Ronald Reagan dismissively explained as an “understandable accident”

      http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/29/obama-should-release-ukraine-evidence/

      • Ben - "Talar du engelska?"

        Wow! That’s quite a list of cardinal sins. Tell me true; if all Americans are subject to the lash, how should Brits come out of that wash, and wouldn’t that include your entitled carcass?

        • Loony

          The British just follow US orders. Focusing on British crimes is just a useful way to divert the heat from their colonial masters.

          • michael norton

            blimey, Scotland just like Islamic Turkey ( which until recently, was secular)
            HOW THE TIMES ARE A CHANGING, NEXT FUCKING DONKEYS WILL BE LEGAL IN SCOTLAND.
            Turkey allows policewomen to wear Muslim headscarf

          • Republicofscotland

            “HOW THE TIMES ARE A CHANGING, NEXT FUCKING DONKEYS WILL BE LEGAL IN SCOTLAND.”

            _____________

            Norton.

            A childish, and inane, comment.

      • lysias

        The shootdown of the Iranian Airbus by the USS Vincennes was thoroughly unjustified. I know, from my own experience when stationed in Berlin, that the technicians on the Vincennes should have been able to determine that the Iranian airbus was a scheduled civilian flight.

        The commander of the USS Sides, which was stationed alongside the Vincennes at the time of the shootdown, wrote a piece for the Proceedings of the US Naval Institute arguing that the shootdown was unjustified.

        • Paul Barbara

          And Korean Airlines 007 was deliberately flown into Russian air space (with an almost identical US spy aircraft preceding it, then getting ‘lost’ (a bit ‘Northwoodsy’) whilst Russian forces assumed it was the same spy plane – a deliberate ‘sacrificial lamb’ offered up by the Yanks; and of course the ‘Achille Lauro’ – I won’t labour that one, but anyone interested just search ‘Mossad + Achille Lauro’); )and don’t forget MH17; Ukraine would never have shot it down without the US okaying it, if not ordering it.

  • bevin

    “Josef Stalin engaged in his own Soviet-style Holocaust when, in 1932 and 1933, an estimated six to 20 million people in the Ukraine died from starvation when Stalin implemented his prescription of “hope and change” policies in order to eliminate the Ukrainian’s desire for becoming their own nation-state….”

    This is not true. Very little of your long post is true. If the moderators were holding it to do fact checks it would be in moderation for years. This is a propaganda theme developed by the Nazis, part of their anti-Soviet offensive, It has been refuted so often that I’m surprised that you-Paul Barbara- repeat it.
    Whenever the Soviet regime is equated with the Nazi regime, you should be on guard: you are repeating the basic building block of Holocaust denial ideology.

    • Paul Barbara

      Oy, yoi, yoi! The Soviets under Stalin wouldn’t do such things, would they? The Gulags never occurred – just a propaganda ploy of the CIA/MI5/Mossad ‘Axis of Evil’. I do not equate Putin with Stalin, as you will have noted from my pro-Putin posts.
      As to the last sentence, I shan’t reply for obvious reasons – other than to say I am aware of the ‘legal silencing’ that inexplicably occurs when this ‘event’ is questioned by historians. I am pretty aware of the barbarity of the Nazis against many groups, but that does not mean I accept everything we have been told, anymore than I do about Sandy Hook, ‘Gulf of Tonkin’, Charlie Hebdo, Orlando, Pearl Harbour (Harbor’ for those ‘across the Pond), 2001, 7/7 etc. ad infinitum.
      Bad people lie to cover their a**es, or to put others in the frame, or to FURTHER THEIR AGENDAS.
      And though I know that the Yanks deliberately drew the Soviets into Afghanistan to ‘bleed’ them; they started up the ‘Mujahideen’ BEFORE the Soviets invaded. They had no ‘good intentions’ towards the Afghans – they didn’t care how many died – the more the merrier for US ‘Strategists’.
      Stalinists I lived close to in the late ’70’s and early ’80’s shunned me, because though they were great re Chile and so forth, and we often attended Demos and campaigned against Latin American Juntas and atrocities, I did not share their BS about the Berlin Wall being built to ‘Keep people from entering the GDR’.
      Many of the horror stories of both WWI & WWII about the German atrocities, like throwing babies up in the air and catching them on bayonets was later shown to be just propaganda, like much of the ‘head chopping’ and ‘throat slitting’ of Westerners by fake ‘Islamists’ created to break up the large Middle East/North African Muslim countries (see ‘Yinon Plan’) (though they certainly do atrocities against the locals, I and many others believe the crimes against Westerners are faked.
      If certain PTB have their way, it will become a crime to ‘deny’ the official version of 9/11, 7/7 etc., and I believe it already is in the new ‘Vichy France’.
      Banning ‘Burkinis’? I say – BOYCOTT FRANCE (and I’m a Francophile!!).

      • Alan

        The Yanks started their attrocities long before that:

        “Those that escaped the fire were slain with the sword, some hewed to pieces, others run through with their rapiers, so as they were quickly dispatched and very few escaped. It was conceived that they thus destroyed about 400 at this time. It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave the praise thereof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully for them, thus to enclose their enemies in their hands and give them so speedy a victory over so proud and insulting an enemy.”

        https://www.bostonreview.net/zinn-power-glory

        • bevin

          Sadly most of the Yankees in question were born in England and governed by Englishmen. And the techniques that they used had been developed, by the English and Scots, in Ireland in two centuries of ethnic cleansing, land piracy and genocide.

          • Alan

            The word Yankee comes from the Dutch name Janke, from the time when New York was New Amsterdam. Some of them may have been originally from Nottinghamshire but they moved to Holland due to their extreme puritanism. You can’t describe enemies of the King as British.

      • bevin

        You should read this:
        https://www.newcoldwar.org/archive-of-writings-of-professor-mark-tauger-on-the-famine-scourges-of-the-early-years-of-the-soviet-union/

        In the meantime what would the Soviet government’s motive be in carrying out this supposedly planned famine? (And why did they “carry out” similar famines elsewhere, far away from Ukraine?) And what do you mean by Ukraine anyway? Look at the way the borders have changed since the first Ukrainian Republic was set up by General Hoffman.
        The problem with the Stalin dominated Politburo of the USSR was that it had very simplistic and mechanical ideas about the ‘evolution’ of economies and societies. It was ‘vulgar marxist’. Stalin and his fellows, including many foreign observers such as Sidney and Beatrice Webb, believed that the economy had to pass through a capitalist stage in which peasant property would be transformed into large agricultural units of production, the peasants would become proletarians etc. It was a view which Marx had specifically refuted in his later years when he became interested in the Russian/Ukrainian mir.
        Undoubtedly there were shortages to the point of famines as a result of crude and ruthless collectivisation- they happened across the USSR and they were partly attributable to the sanctions-cordon sanitaire- against the state by the ‘western’ powers including the USA.
        But the idea that this was a deliberate policy aimed at killing Ukrainians, a genocide, is frankly idiotic. Ukrainians were far moire worried about their traditional persecutors-the Poles and Germans- than their fellow Russians. Which is why in 1944, with the exception of Nazi collaborators, they rose up and assisted the Red Army in its liberation.
        As to the ‘Holodomor’ itself, this is a myth that began in Germany, was nursed by Goebbels and spread by fleeing Waffen SS units which ended up in Canada and the USA- and were actually the first units used in Gladio operations, post war.

  • michael norton

    The Dysfuntional United Kingdom

    Islamaphobic Theresa May on BREXIT high as 50,000 join the Conservative Party
    BREXIT will be “top of the in-tray” when Theresa May returns from holiday next week.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/704583/Theresa-May-on-Brexit-high-50000-join-the-Conservative-Party
    The Prime Minister told Cabinet members to spend the summer working on Britain’s negotiations to leave the EU and they will report back at the Government’s first meeting at Chequers on Wednesday.
    Morale in Downing Street has been boosted by new figures suggesting that 50,000 people have joined the Conservative Party since
    Mrs May took office last month.
    Sources say she will demand input on BREXIT from everyone around the Cabinet table,
    not just leading Brexiteers Boris Johnson, David Davis and Liam Fox.
    It follows reports that there will NOT be a parliamentary vote on BREXIT before Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is formally triggered, starting the two-year process of leaving the hated EU.
    Sources have said Mrs May believes “Brexit means Brexit” and will not offer opponents the opportunity to stall Britain’s withdrawal.
    A Downing Street source said: “The Prime Minister has spoken about her determination to make a success of our exit from the European Union, and her belief that it presents opportunities for the UK. This is top of the in-tray as she returns to Westminster.
    “Before the summer she charged all Cabinet ministers with identifying the opportunities in their portfolios.
    “She believes everyone should be contributing something to the negotiations, not just the so-called Three Brexiteers.”

    Now correct me if you will but that sounds quite functional.

    • nevermind

      TERRORISM ALERT, cabinet takes control over Parliaments sovereign powers!

      Why should MP’s/cowards be sitting round the cabinet table making decisions over the powers of MP’s,, but are too frit to demand an open vote in parliament on the referendum, be deciding on when to trigger article 50 and thereby bypassing the parliamentary sovereign powers they have?

      ‘Split Conservative party hides behind Cabinet decision making, ending Parliaments sovereignty’, tomorrows headline?

      highly unlikely its going to be more like
      ‘Refreshed PM forces ahead with clear voters mandate as cabinet decides’

      • nevermind

        PS, who decides on this merrygoround of avatars, mine seems to be changing on a daily basis?
        Is this to confuse readers? make out that a person is pretending to be me?
        very confusing,I’d like my original avatar back please, thanks in advance….

        • Alcyone

          It is entirely dependent on your email address entered. If you change even one character, even accidentally, the system will produce a new avatar.

          • nevermind

            rubbish, I have no changed my email address for ages.

            Maybe a moderator could explain.

          • Mods

            They’re called Identicions (“identifying icons”) and on WordPress they’re specific to email address. From the Discussion Settings page: “Default Avatar- For users without a custom avatar of their own, you can either display a generic logo or a generated one based on their email address.”

            Nevermind, you’d P’d in your .com. You shouldn’t P in your ammeter either.

          • nevermind

            thanks mods, I did ‘p’ my .com which was the fault I inserted in my first post this morning, thanks.

          • Alcyone

            So, Mods when when I told Nevermind the same thing, ie email-dependent and he came back with “rubbish”, I accused him of being a fool, which if he can’t listen at that simple level, he is. What was your problem with that? Kindly stop being so nervously protective of foolish egos.

          • Alcyone

            Nevermind, it would have taken you a second if you looked at the automated options offered in the line where you enter your email. I put it down to poor listening. Effective listening is an art and more important than speaking, I’m sure you would agree. Have a good Sunday yourself.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWviUF6KdE8

  • michael norton

    Dysfunctional United Kingdom

    Govanhell is currently the constituency of First Minister Ms. Nicola Sturgeon.

    Margo Uprichard of The Space – a community project of the Daughters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul which works with Roma families in Govanhill – said the poverty in the area is quite extraordinary.

    “What we saw when we came here was a community that reminded me of growing up in Glasgow in the 1960s,” she said.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37180037

  • YKMN

    A formerly ‘secret’ British secret squirrels with binoculars department, and their undercover chief officer has been revealed. . .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3761878/It-s-bit-embarrassing-meant-exist-shadows-MoD-blows-Camilla-s-undercover-role-Army-s-secretive-unit.html

    (except, there are pages & pages on gooogle about the SRR, their uniform patches are available on eBay and they feature in books available on AMZN, = not very secret Jane Bond department)

  • Alcyone

    Jeremy Corbyn is very electable and probably more in-step with the mood of a wide majority of people in this country as well as the forces of change in the West overall, the US for example.

    “The former economics editor for BBC Newsnight (Paul Mason) said: “I think Jeremy Corbyn will win. Or, let’s put it this way, he will be in a position to form a government.

    “That, of course, is what the Labour rebels were worried about on the day after Brexit . Remember the sequence of this. It looked like there was going to be an early general election with the Tories in disarray.

    “I still think the Tories will be in disarray over the next few years. And I think the guardians of elite power inside the Labour party decided it was enough.

    “They texted each other saying ‘this is our last chance, otherwise the guy has the chance of leading the party into an election and that election is winnable”.

    He went on to suggest that although Scotland was lost to Labour, up to 20 key marginals in England and Wales could turn to Labour if they could attract Green party voters.”
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-shadow-ministers-resigned-because-8722027#rlabs=1%20rt$sitewide%20p$1

    • Alan

      So what has the present dysfunction in the Labour Party done to convince a member of the Green Party, such as me, to vote for them? Labour are completely dysfunctional, full stop!

  • Republicofscotland

    It’s costing the taxpayer, a staggering £74 million pounds every year to guard the immoral, obscene vanity project of British imperialism, known as Trident at Faslane in Scotland. Add to that figure, the ridiculous amounts of taxpayers money that will be spent renewing the WMD’s, and we have a farcical situation. Where a £22 billion pounds blackhole must be filled by making significant cuts to the NHS in England, yet WMD’s that are already redundant in today’s warfare are to be renewed.

    Westminster cares more for its weapons of mass destruction, than it does about its citizens.

  • Republicofscotland

    Deep seated tribalism, would appear to be at the heart of Labour’s rejection to, if not, to form an alliance at Westminster against the Tories, then at least to vote on a confidence or supply arrangement.

    “I say that, as Corbyn’s Labour policies, are very similar to that of the SNP’s, a 50p tax band, mansion tax, mass house building etc. Yet in 2015, Labour attacked Nicola Sturgeon, for calling for a £180 billion UK wide infrastructure programme, financed by borrowing.”

    “Now Both Corbyn and Smith have offered even higher levels of borrowing, the former proposed borrowing a whopping £500 billion pounds.”

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14709271.Labour_would_be_daft_not_to_seek_a_deal_with_the_SNP/

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