Chelsea and Julian are in Jail. History Trembles. 971


Tonight both Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange are in jail, both over offences related to the publication of materials specifying US war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq, and both charged with nothing else at all. No matter what bullshit political and MSM liars try to feed you, that is the simple truth. Manning and Assange are true heroes of our time, and are suffering for it.

If a Russian opposition politician were dragged out by armed police, and within three hours had been convicted on a political charge by a patently biased judge with no jury, with a lengthy jail sentence to follow, can you imagine the Western media reaction to that kind of kangaroo court? Yet that is exactly what just happened in London.

District Judge Michael Snow is a disgrace to the bench who deserves to be infamous well beyond his death. He displayed the most plain and open prejudice against Assange in the 15 minutes it took for him to hear the case and declare Assange guilty, in a fashion which makes the dictators’ courts I had witnessed, in Babangida’s Nigeria or Karimov’s Uzbekistan, look fair and reasonable, in comparison to the gross charade of justice conducted by Michael Snow.

One key fact gave away Snow’s enormous prejudice. Julian Assange said nothing during the whole brief proceedings, other than to say “Not guilty” twice, and to ask a one sentence question about why the charges were changed midway through this sham “trial”. Yet Judge Michael Snow condemned Assange as “narcissistic”. There was nothing that happened in Snow’s brief court hearing that could conceivably have given rise to that opinion. It was plainly something he brought with him into the courtroom, and had read or heard in the mainstream media or picked up in his club. It was in short the very definition of prejudice, and “Judge” Michael Snow and his summary judgement is a total disgrace.

We wrapped up the final Wikileaks and legal team meeting at 21.45 tonight and thereafter Kristian Hrafnsson and I had dinner together. The whole team, including Julian, is energised rather than downhearted. At last there is no more hiding for the pretend liberals behind ludicrous Swedish allegations or bail jumping allegations, and the true motive – revenge for the Chelsea Manning revelations – is now completely in the open.

To support the persecution of Assange in these circumstances is to support absolute state censorship of the internet. It is to support the claim that any journalist who receives and publishes official material which indicates US government wrongdoing, can be punished for its publication. Furthermore this US claim involves an astonishing boost to universal jurisdiction. Assange was nowhere near the USA when he published the documents, but nonetheless US courts are willing to claim jurisdiction. This is a threat to press and internet freedom everywhere.

These are scary times. But those may also be the most inspiring of times.

UPDATE

We are reassembling Wikileaks/Julian legal and media team from 10am Friday in Doughty Street Chambers. I and others will be available for further media interviews from then. I can be reached on 07979 691085.

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    • Herbie

      This vendetta against Julian has been going on for years now, but it never amounts to much more than the childish schoolyard stuff you see above.

      They’ve clearly been given licence to bitch to their hearts content in msm.

      But still, there’s something not right about it.

      It’s much too over the top.

      Can’t really remember anything like this in all my time watching media.

      The only thing I can compare it with is those male celebs who dump or cheat on their partner. They get a good kicking from female hacks.

      But you don’t see that so much in media which desires to be thought of as serious journalism.

      Anyway, the thing is you don’t get any serious journalism in msm anymore nor do you get useful analysis.

      You have to go to the independents for that.

    • N_

      Someone should make a black list of the guilty journalists, whether they are “opinion” merchants or “objectivity” machines, who have joined the chorus of “Go on Trump, electrocute the whistleblowers and rip their entrails out too – because they all poo themselves, look funny, and deserve a good kicking, so let’s all cheer as the dirty crybabies get their comeuppance”. Because that’s the message.

      Perhaps juxtaposition with an explanation that hundreds of thousands were killed in Iraq and millions have lost their homes in Syria might get the point across to the few remaining people in the western world who don’t willingly tell all their business to the CIA’s Facebook operation and believe that the dog-eat-dog “moral” of “Game of Thromes” is “literature”. No wonder some people are driving lorries along crowded promenades and shooting down innocent people in places of worship as though they were metal ducks at a fairground. This is the fascist culture that these journalists are an active and willing part of.

      John Snow, John Humphrys, Lindsey Hilsum, and Suzanne Moore are nothing but babyburners. I did say “journalism” wasn’t a respectable “profession”. Who’d want to be like those disgusting excuses for human beings?

    • N_

      I wonder how Lindsey Hilsum, whose dad sat on the Defence Scientific Advisory Council at the same time as chairing the board of defence contractor Peratech, and who swanned between the Ministry of Defence and the weapons company GEC, would feel if she were locked up for 7 years without being allowed out in the open air?

      She might as well have Arab baby lampshades. That’s the kind of person we are talking about.

      Isn’t it time to confiscate inheritances received from those who trousered large sums from their participation at a senior level in the warfare $tate?

    • carmel townsend

      frankywiggles at 13.17.
      What vile, self-serving creatures these people are. They can’t even see that they’re virtually carpetbaggers and only the very stupid believe their lies.
      Julian Assange’s appearance is totally irrelevant and when the corporate stenographers start with their ad hominem attacks, they’ve lost the argument – if they ever had one.
      I can’t believe people who write for the New Statesman or the once esteemed broadsheets, have descended to the mediocrity and dumbness of the dimmest pupil in the fourth form.

      • John2o2o

        I agree with your fine comment Carmel, but …

        “I can’t believe people who write for the New Statesman or the once esteemed broadsheets, have descended to the mediocrity and dumbness of the dimmest pupil in the fourth form.”

        … oh, I can!

        • Hieroglyph

          Correct. Sadly, they just aren’t very serious. I’m all for gossip columns and opinions, but the Guardian ‘serious’ articles are – ironically – just a joke. Or, to correct myself, were a joke. I no longer read them, since they removed comments. Gab dissenter app may draw me back, to post some mockery, but I probably shouldn’t waste my time. I’m too old to be paying attention to the high school mean girls.

          The Guardian is basically Cosmo these days. And I’m sure I’m not their target audience. Actually, the entire MSM is basically Cosmo these days, now I think about it …

          • frankywiggles

            The Guardian’s output does seem to be aimed primarily at unread women. Probably because it is being edited by one.

      • ProfessorPlum

        From the paper that lauded itself over publishing the identity of Stakenife? All with information provided from a former member of the Fru?

      • pete

        If it was the Herald Scotland that you refer to, then yes, it reads like it was written by Judge Snow, but, of course that can’t be the case. A further article in the paper pursues the same line, no pretence of giving the man a fair hearing, let’s move right on to the verdict.

        • Jo1

          Yes Pete.

          The other column was by Kevin McKenna and it appeared yesterday. I mentioned it here at the time further back on the thread. It too was disgraceful.

  • Stonky

    When the allegations originally emerged in Sweden, Assange remained in in the country while they were investigated, and once it was confirmed to him that there would be no charges, he left Sweden.

    When a different prosecutor decided to reopen the case, he was then detained in the UK pending extradition to Sweden to be investigated once again on the same allegations, based on the same evidence. It now seems possible that he will be sent back to Sweden, to be investigated once again on the same allegations, based on the same evidence.

    What will happen if this new investigation results in no charges and he leaves Sweden again, and then some new prosecutor decides to “reopen the investigation” again? Will he be detained pending extradition to Sweden for a third time, to be investigated once again on the same allegations based on the same evidence? If not why not?

    It would be nice if something resembling a journalist would ask the lynch mob of Feminazis and Zionist parliamentarians this specific question: “How many times should Julian Assange be forced to return to Sweden to be reinvestigated for the same allegations based on the same evidence, before the matter is closed? Is there a specific number you have in mind?”

    Is this like an EU referendum, where you keep having to do it until you get the answer right?

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        There is only one condition which would prevent Sweden from sending Assange to the USA. it does not involve political offenses, Such treaties are powerful instruments which cannot be written off as simply empty.

        • ZiggyM

          Swedish Prosecution Authority

          “Every extradition case is to be judged on its own individual merits. For that reason the Swedish government cannot provide a guarantee in advance that Julian Assange would not be subject to further extradition to the USA.

          Once the British authorities enforce the UK Supreme Court’s decision to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden, Sweden is bound by the so-called “Doctrine of Speciality” which means that Sweden cannot extradite him further to a third country, for example the USA, without permission from the UK. This means that Julian Assange would be in the same position in Sweden as he would be in the UK with regard to further extradition to a third country”

          As Trowbridge said.
          The 1983 act precludes extradition for anything deemed Political. But if the USA authorities could get a bit more creative with the charges…
          Who knows.

          • Herbie

            “This means that Julian Assange would be in the same position in Sweden as he would be in the UK with regard to further extradition to a third country””

            I think it’s easier to extradite from Sweden to US, than it is from UK.

            They only need the addition of a nod from UK.

            It’s easy for UK to give this nod.

            Much much easier than having to extradite from the UK itself.

      • N_

        I don’t know, but it strikes me that more Gulf money plays ball with British intelligence than with Swedish intelligence, which may be why those such as Stephen Kinnock and Meta Ramsey are saying send him to Sweden.

    • Republicofscotland

      I’m under the impression Sweden tried to drop the charges in 2013 but the British said don’t you dare drop the charges.

      As for skipping bail here, one imagines a fine wouldve sufficed for anyone one else but Assange. Britain is just as guilty as the US in attempting to criminalise publishing and publishers, the main stream media don’t (or maybe they do) realise that by keeping quiet or condemning Assange, they’re actually giving themselves enough rope to hang themselves.

      So its down to Britain to put a nail in the coffin of publishing and real journalism by handing over Assange to the US.

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/11/sweden-tried-to-drop-assange-extradition-in-2013-cps-emails-show

      • Tom Welsh

        “I’m under the impression Sweden tried to drop the charges in 2013 but the British said don’t you dare drop the charges”.

        Please use the correct terminology. Assange has never been charged with any crime in Sweden. Allegations (mostly made by prosecutors and the police) were investigated for a while. When no evidence was found, it was decided to bring no charges.

    • John2o2o

      “based on the same evidence”

      Hearsay, is NOT evidence!

      I am repeating myself here, but I feel it needs to be said: Under UK law there exists a “presumption of innocence”. That is to say, a person is innocent in the eyes of the law until proven guilty.

      So Julian is guilty only of skipping bail.

      It is worth also saying that this case highlights the grave dangers of the current popular attitude that anyone making an allegation of sexual misconduct “must be believed”.

      I have never thought this a reasonable attitude and as a matter of principle I never believe allegations of sexual misconduct that cannot be evidenced other than by an accusation, by words.

      Please, if you support Julian stop using the word “evidence” when referring to these malicious smears.

      • Herbie

        In place of the Law there has emerged a public shaming or trial by media.

        It’s a fact of life today.

        Don’t matter your guilt or innocence,

        Media alone will destroy or exalt you.

        It’s a return to the demagogue and barbarianism.

        And it’s coming from the top.

  • Sharp Ears

    Rusbridger takes time off from his onerous duties at Lady Margaret Hall to write about his concerns on the shutting down of free speech on the internet. In the Heil today of all places.

    ALAN RUSBRIDGER: The woman who was banned from Facebook for posting these two photos of the Iranian volleyball team – and a chilling threat to your free speech
    Alan Rusbridger is Principal of Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford and former newspaper editor
    He says he fears the end of the internet as we know it under Government plans
    Raises the case of a woman banned from Facebook for posting two pictures
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6919537/ALAN-RUSBRIDGER-woman-banned-Facebook-posting-two-photos.html#comments

    Search in vain for any support or even a mention of his erstwhile colleague in the Wikileaks reveal, Julian Assange, now banged up in Belmarsh.

    Hypocrite and creep.

    • Tony_0pmoc

      jake,

      “Who remembers Horniman?”

      I don’t know how it is funded, but the Horniman Museum is still in fine form, possibly the best ever. It is nearly as exciting and inspirational as The British Museum.

      https://www.horniman.ac.uk/

      “The museum was founded in 1901 by Frederick John Horniman. Frederick had inherited his father’s Horniman’s Tea business, which by 1891 had become the world’s biggest tea trading business.”

      Tony

  • Vivian O'Blivion

    Jimmy Dore has follow up posts supporting Assange.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J4kWVE2M2h8

    This one features Tulsi Gabbard. The more I learn about Tulsi Gabbard, the more I like. This is counterintuitive regards a politician.
    Dore has also posted a powerful piece featuring Tucker Carlson. Carlson is loathsome in many respects but even a broke clock ….

    • Adrian Parsons

      Tucker Carlson in particular should be watched by those on the true Left (i.e. Communists/Marxists) because he represents “in plain sight” the transformation that has occurred in the relationship between the corporate/mainstream media and the Right since the emergence of the “populist” political movements in the West over the past decade or so (https://newleftreview.org/issues/II104/articles/wolfgang-streeck-the-return-of-the-repressed).

      Very briefly, as Perry Anderson illustrates in his excellent sketch Considerations on Western Marxism (https://www.versobooks.com/books/2058-considerations-on-western-marxism), a whole current of academic ‘Marxism’ (the Frankfurt School) was deflected disastrously from Marxism by the publication of Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts (1844) in 1932. Philosophically pre-Marxist, its categories and concepts provided the theoretical foundation for ‘Critical Theory’ which, in turn, gave birth to the non-class based ‘identity politics’ that have underlain “progressive”, “Leftist” political practice since the mid-1960s.

      This was an intellectual working class/”middle class” phenomenon: the manual working class just got on with surviving as best they could, relatively unscathed by considerations of gender-free toilets or personal pronouns. However, the economic devastation caused by neo-liberalism since the mid-1970s and the self-evident cosying-up of all the “establishment” political parties (both “Left” and Right) to this new economic reality (and their consequent abandonment of care for their domestic manual working class constituents – but, paradoxically, not their immigrant counterparts!) led to the emergence of the so-called “populist” movements at just the point that social media took off.

      This synchronicity was vital. As the corporate media, full-on supporters of the neo-liberal/globalist project, defamed these movements (springing from the economic reality of the manual working class) as some kind of voluntarist “neo-fascist”/”racist”/”xenophobic” cluster-fuck of bigotry (see the Guardian’s current coverage of Brexit for a contemporary example), non-corporate/social media outlets were, for the first time in history, able to counter these lies. The increasingly panicked reaction of the State (of which the corporate media are ideological supports) can be seen in, variously, the Integrity Initiative, RussiaGate and the current Julian Assange situation.

      Their reactions are a sign of ideological (if not physical) weakness. Jimmy Dore is wrong (or, at least, incomplete) in his assessment of Tucker Carlson. He and those who now stand at rallies in the US chanting “Fake News” at CNN, MSNBC and their ilk are far more dangerous to the State than CounterPunch or Democracy Now! precisely because they come from the Right, are working class and armed!

      • Herbie

        Adrian Parsons

        You need to go a level above.

        The phenomena you describe are not internally produced, but rather the product of external forces from the emergent East.

        They don’t care about your Enlightenment dialectics.

        “He and those who now stand at rallies in the US chanting “Fake News” at CNN, MSNBC and their ilk are far more dangerous to the State than CounterPunch or Democracy Now! precisely because they come from the Right, are working class and armed!”

        Aye. They’ve been trying to get Rightey Whitey to rise up for a while now.

        No real takers. Many fakers.

        But Rightey Whitey just wants to restore the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

        Get rid of the criminals in govt.

        By lawful means.

        I mean, that’s the point.

      • N_

        I thought I was going to agree with your conclusion when you eventually got to it, especially after you put social media together with the rise of right-wing populism, albeit with the here weak concept of “synchronicity”, but social media is not a possible vehicle for left-wing contestation. It is big business and the CIA offering a wall. Those who use it supposedly contestationally aren’t cleverly making use of its contradictions to undermine capitalism. Meanwhile Nike invented the identity of “urban youth”. Social media users can’t tell the difference between truth and lies, whatever their paper politics are. It’s all spectacle, and one they’ve climbed inside.

        One of the defining characteristics of rising fascism is that it relies on strongarmed movements outside of the state as well as on state power.

        • Adrian Parsons

          A few points:

          1. I did not “…put social media together with the rise of right-wing populism…” via the “…weak concept of “synchronicity”…”

          Firstly, I was pointing out that, fortuitously, social media arose at the very point that the corporate media began their ideological assault against the “populist” movements on the grounds that they were “neo-fascist”, “racist”, “xenophobic” and all the rest of it, thus allowing this false “narrative” to be effectively countered – something that was hitherto impossible. Secondly, and consequently, the term ‘synchronicity’ was not operating as a ‘concept’ in what would inevitably have constituted some kind of technological determinist or voluntarist discourse, but rather as a descriptive device.

          2. Your statement that “…social media is not a possible vehicle for left-wing contestation…” is patently absurd.

          3. “It is big business and the CIA offering a wall.”

          Just as the pre-social media space was constituted by both corporate and ‘alternative’ components, so today this structure is reproduced within the social media sphere, with Facebook, Twitter and their ilk representing the corporate and the Intercept, Media Lens and their ilk representing the ‘alternative’ components. Chomsky identified the censorship techniques operating in the pre-social media 40 years ago: outright no-platforming, the imposition of strict ‘acceptable’ limits on the sources of news/information, the imposition of strict ‘acceptable’ limits on the range of opinions to be aired, the sieving of the “experts” to be called upon to opine on current/world affairs according to their ‘ideological soundness’, etc. It is a measure of the threat posed to “establishment narratives” by social media that the corporate sector are now imposing the techniques of censorship isolated by Chomsky “in plain sight” as liberals stroke their beards and nod sagely, Google’s “The Good Censor” (leaked by Breitbart on 9th October, 2018 and subsequently ignored completely by the MSM) being a classic example (https://www.scribd.com/document/390521673/The-Good-Censor-GOOGLE-LEAK#from_embed).

          4. The rest of this paragraph is gibberish.

          Finally, the point of my last, too concise, paragraph was that when even the proletarian Right has woken up to the corruption of the MSM the State has a real problem. The Left has always understood that they are a pack of lying bastards but I don’t remember crowds in the 1960s/1970s chanting “Fake News” or some equivalent at them. This is a new and important phenomenon. All we need now is a Left that knows its arse from its elbow, and I don’t see one.

    • John2o2o

      She’s not “bought” Vivian.

      If I was an American she would get my vote in the next election.

      Mike Gravel and Jill Stein have also had some good things to say in support of Julian.

  • Mist001

    It seems obvious to me that the UK will ship Julian off to Sweden who will then extradite him if a request is made and thus absolves the UK of any part of extraditing him. Just like Ecuador, the UK will have moved the problem on as will the Swedes. In short, he’s becoming ‘someone elses problem’ so it’s either extradition or assassination to resolve the problem once and for all.

    Not a good position for an individual to find themselves in..

    • Casual Observer

      Maybe but, Sweden basks in the light of being an ‘Enlightened’ country amongst the European nations ? No doubt the image projected would depreciate somewhat under scrutiny ?

      If even half of the stories relating to the progress of the formation of the complaints against Mr Assange are true, one would have to suppose that the Swedes would see little to gain, and much potential for damage to their rather clean image were they to resurrect their desire to get hold of him. Added to which each passing day now sees support for Mr Assange growing amongst those who do not rely upon the legacy media to become informed, so it would be inviting problems for Sweden’s political class ?

      That of course begs the question as to why we are at the point we are today with the same criteria applied to HMG ? Probably it all boils down to the carpet biting of that Lenin bloke in Equador, and the fact that HMG could not be seen to be doing nothing ? What we might call the establishment have certainly got the wind up, what else could account for the media’s desperation to blacken the image of Mr Assange ?

        • Trowbridge H. Ford

          Yes, ZiggyM,, especially after those assassinations of PM Olof Pal,r. and lookalike and behaviorlike Foreign Secretary Anna Lindh which the Brits were involved in.

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            Meant Olof Palme. Usually, I don’t read over my posts for fear they will be deleted.

            In his case, they supplied the assassin, and in the second one, they helped make one through their remote viewing (RV) experiments.

          • N_

            @Trowbridge – Was Mijailo Mijailovic a subject in RV experiments? In which lab? Have you got a link? Some of the stuff in psi labs is “selective”. Much doesn’t get written up in journals – that’s obvious.

            Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel who drove the lorry in Nice may well have been worked on by MC pros.

    • John2o2o

      IDK, I think that neocon rabble in Westminster would love to have a hand in shipping Julian off to the US. They could barely disguise their glee at his arrest. The scumbags are proud of themselves.

      • Casual Observer

        Our elected representatives have shown themselves lacking in judgement of late, the Assange situation, or rather the reaction to it by many of them is merely yet another sign of their poor judgement ? Dont forget, governments generally end up being driven by the results of their own bad decisions, hence Labour have probably made the right call on this one, albeit because they have the luxury of not being in government at this time.

        Although in fairness, its difficult to see what course other than arresting Mr Assange that HMG could have taken ? Seven or more years on, his refuge was always going to be going off bang at some point, and the timing was always going to be in the control of a minor country from a continent not noted for its stability of politics. Suffice to say that the whole thing should be handled in a calm and considered manner, rather than the jingoistic approach that Ms May and her cohort seem to think a winner.

  • JOHN CHUCKMAN

    “If a Russian opposition politician were dragged out by armed police, and within three hours had been convicted on a political charge by a patently biased judge with no jury, with a lengthy jail sentence to follow, can you imagine the Western media reaction to that kind of kangaroo court? Yet that is exactly what just happened in London.’

    A very powerful way to sum the situation up.

    Thank you.

    • DiggerUK

      I copied the claim to another forum discussion about the “armed police”. I was then challenged to justify the claim as there seems to be no visual evidence of guns.
      Can anybody provide more details from the time of Julian’s expulsion. Don’t forget Diplomatic Protection officers on duty outside embassies in UK is the norm, and they are always armed.
      Many thanks…_

  • Charles Bostock

    Many people wonder what Mr Julian Assange lives on (financially). Presumably he derives income from Wikileaks, which raises the question of how Wikileaks is financed. Is it by the general public with small donations, or are there some bigger paymasters somewhere?

    Or if it’s not from Wikileaks, from where then?

    Some detailed info on this would be welcomed by many.

    • Observer

      Charles, my dear friend, a bright guy like you should be thinking of bigger things.

      I’m beginning to think that our politics in our country, yes despite the Brexit impasse, and despite all the abuse hurled at Westminster, including by our host here, our politics is like a Teddy Bears’ Picnic compared to the game of politics in the USofA.

      Check this out for ‘known unknowns’, but bear in mind that there are some people, however few, to whom these ‘unknowns’ are in fact known.

      Never mind the loose change that Assange never got to spend for a nice cup of hot coffee in a local Knightsbridge cafe.

      “Julian Assange has information that could ‘destroy Russian hoax’: Jerome Corsi”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k848RRhBJXc

        • Casual Observer

          Blimey !! The Dutch interviewer went in hard there :O

          I’d have to think that the Seth Rich angle is far more likely than stuff that happened nearly a decade ago ? The prize would be immense, the Democratic Party rendered unelectable for 20 years at least 🙂

          • J

            I was intrigued that Seth Rich was a dead a week after Trump Jr learned of a major data leak by a Democrat insider while meeting with Russians in search of dirt. Well before word of a data trove had begun to spread as far as I understand it. Despite appearances, Trump was very close to the Clintons (certainly at that time) and most certainly shared their exotic tastes (their jaunts to Epstein’s island for example.) It’s certainly possible the Clinton team learned about the leak directly from Trump at around that time or not long after Trump knew of it, within a day or two of the meeting.

          • Paul Barbara

            @ J April 14, 2019 at 23:13
            Yes, Trump is indeed as thick as they come, but he acts even thicker. He’s part of the TweedleRepugnant/Tweedle Demoprat carnival roundabout.
            Which is why he (it?) hasn’t gone after the Clinton Crime Family, as he seemed to be promising.
            No one gets to be POTUS without beaucoup skeletons in their cupboards these days.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Charley B April 14, 2019 at 19:40
        I think it would be a good guess to say JA doesn’t get his dosh from you, or your ‘mates’; that narrows it down quite a bit.
        And he’s not likely to get it from the government, MSM, police or military.
        We can thus narrow down the search for the ‘funders of the truth’.

        • Charles Bostock

          Paul

          I think your list of people and bodies who are NOT funding Mr Julian Assange and his operation is very probably correct. But that was a kind of “negative list”. Could you possibly supply a “positive list”; ie a indication of who might then be funding him? I mean, let(s face it, no one can live on love and thin air, can they. Your description “funders of the truth” is far too vague, especially when you compare it to the precision of the “negative list”.

    • Tom Welsh

      “Many people wonder what Mr Julian Assange lives on (financially)”.

      That would be wholly his business, and not yours at all.

      • Charles Bostock

        You are correct in a certain idealistic sense but given the impact of the Wikileaks/Julian Assange affair I believe that some insight into how he finances the organisation and himself would be in the public interest.

        I mean, it would surely not be unreasonable to hold that any champion of openness and transparency for others should be willing to have the searchlight turned on him or her equally?

        • Borncynical

          @CB

          Have you considered the simple answer – ask WikiLeaks. And leave the rest of us to consider the important issues.

          • Charles Bostock

            Who funds individuals and organisations is often an important issue, Borncynical. After all, there are many posts on this website which refer to where various people and organisations get their money from and who supports them (as an example, it is often said on here that Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are CIA fronts, which implies that the CIA finances them, at least in part).

            As for asking Wikileaks itself, I thought I’d get a an answer more quickly if I asked on here since there are a lot of posters who seem to be very familiar with Wikileaks in its various aspects, and Wikileaks probably have more important things to deal with at the moment than answering a question from a humble member of the public.

      • Charles Bostock

        Tom

        If you look a few posts down, you’ll see another poster busily telling us about Home Secretary Javid’s finances. So at least s far as the Home Secreatry’s concerned, some people don’t think his finances are only his own business. D’ye see what I mean?

      • Charles Bostock

        No, I think there are many who would like some light shed on who finances Wikileaks and Julian, especially at this moment when both are so much in the limelight. It is even possible that some people are hearing of Wikileaks for the first time.

    • BrianFujisan

      Gawd..as an Out door person of the Mountains..It always Struck terror in me Julian’s Torture..

      I see you went through my Photos..Feel Free.. Did you see your Yes Stone at holyrood Cairn

      Stay well

    • Doug Mackie

      Is he at Wandsworth? It seems that the early suggestion of Belmarsh by his friend was perhaps just an attempted publicity stunt: “Britain’s Guantánamo”.

      More practically, does anyone know his prisoner number? I believe this is needed both by emailaprisoner.com and to (successfully) send him a letter by Royal Mail.

      Is there any clarity yet where he will be detained over the next six weeks?

  • Kenneth G Coutts

    Way to go folks, give them hell.
    The sickening Engerlish media and the scummy unionist politico’s.
    Acting like state vigilante’s.
    Yankee puppets.
    🐼🐼

    • Dave

      JA’s beard was likely due to the withdrawal of facilities prior to his removal at behest of UK to feed the dirty inmate coverage to reduce public sympathy for JA and divert attention from what WikiLeaks has leaked! I did notice the pictures of the toilet and kitchen hardly matched the description.

      They had to act after Ecuador withdrew protection after WikiLeaks exposed Moreno’s secret bank account, which JA must have suspected would happen, hence the early reports of his impending eviction.

      This means JA forced the issue, but why? Could it be because its part of a clever plot by Trump, same as the Mueller investigation, to reveal the crimes of his opponents bearing in mind no extradition has yet happened, to allow JA the freedom to tell the truth about Hilary Clinton and sink the Democrat National Committee?

      Hence the MSM vitriol against JA, same as directed towards Trump! I.e. the Deep State never initiated the eviction they fear it!

    • Ken Kenn

      Not so much wisdom as a truth.

      Excellently put.

      I particularly like this one ” These people have obviously had their personal opinions taken far too seriously for far too long. ”

      The Guardian has used these alleged journalists as ‘ Opinion Formers ‘ as a transmission info belt to other opinion formers in other
      MSM outlets and they have the cheek to say that the blogsphere operates in a bubble.

      The truth is that this is all about envy and shame.

      Assange has come along and upset their cosy world of defining what is in the public interest and what isn’t.

      Their job of definition of what is in the public interest has been usurped by an outsider who won’t play their game. The game that has kept them in employ and the lifestyle they have become accustomed to for years.

      I will guarantee that many of the seething ‘ journalists ‘ have been handed stories by whistleblowers over the years and instead of chasing the Scoop they have sat on it or hidden it in order to keep their positions.

      They should stick to Cat Stuck Up Tree stories from here on in as that is all they are fit for and I couldn’t give a stuff over what happened at their dinner parties or shortages of alfalfa sprouts at Waitrose.

      Boring journalism but just like 24 Hour News never has ‘ Dead Air ‘ so it is in the other media.

      Pure filler for the schmucks.

      They are lazy for a reason and the reason is: They are lazy.

      No doubt probably have great difficulty telling their kids a Bedtime Story never mind a thought provoking or revelatory article.

      Unfortunately even though I like Corbyn the Labour Party is full of these entitled people too.

      Which is why even if the Labour Party wins the next GE these same lazy people will attempt to undermine everything the Labour Party and Corbyn tries to do.

      In both cases their future salaries and emoluments depend upon doing that.

      Ditto for attacking Julian Assange.

      Envy and laziness on both counts.

      They are frauds.

      No wonder a lot of them are heavy drinkers and try never to look in the mirror just in case they realise what they have become.

      One Assange and one Corbyn are worth more than a hundred thousand of them.

      They know that in their hearts.

      That’s what makes them drink and take drugs – it masks the pain.

    • Sharp Ears

      Ma Clinton speaking in NY in front of her adulterous husband is cock a hoop** about Assange’s arrest and confinement.

      Delegitimising Journalism: The Effort to Relabel Julian Assange
      April 15, 2019

      ‘To Thomas Cooper, he would write in November 1802 reflecting that the press was “the only tocsin of a nation. [When it] is completely silenced… all means of a general effort [are] taken away.” The press provided the greatest of counterweights against oppressive tendencies, being the “only security” available.
      Not so, now. The fourth estate has been subjected to a withering. The State has become canny about the nature of the hack profession, providing incentives, attempting to obtain favourable coverage, and, above all, avoiding dramatic reforms where necessary. An outfit like WikiLeaks is a rebuke to such efforts, to the hypocrisy of decent appearances, as it is to those in a profession long in tooth and, often, short in substance.’
      https://www.globalresearch.ca/effort-relabel-julian-assange/5674460

      **
      Hillary Clinton shows signature style as she chuckles over Assange’s arrest
      12 Apr, 2019
      https://www.rt.com/news/456301-hillary-clinton-jokes-assange-arrest/

    • John2o2o

      You can’t prove a negative, but common sense would tell you that the Russian’s did not “hack the election”.

      What most of our dear American cousins fail to understand is that most of the people of the world have more important things to worry about than which brand of bloodthirsty corporate warmonger is squatting in the White House at any given moment.

      The world does not revolve around their stinky asses – much to their chagrin.

      Trump v Clinton: neocon patsy v female psychopath : what a choice!

  • Albert A

    I have e-mailed my MP (SNP) to ascertain the position of the SNP regarding Assange’s extradition, as there seems to be dearth of comments from the group.

    • nevermind

      thanks Albert so Have I, but I know it is futile, as he is well embedded in the Leave campaign and has said that he has a problem with EU migrants, whilst being ok with migrants from Ireland. It is no wonder that these people get very disturbed when reality hits their voting record in Parliament.
      Most of MP’s are topsy turvey an d reacting to what happened the day/week before, they are not in charge of their senses anymore.
      Equally with JA, they are desperate to pin something on him that would allow them to turn him over to Satans helpers, those whop hold the poker, like Pompeo and Bolton.
      I am worried that he is now within a system that would make accidents and deliberate assassination possible and whatever happens to him will be the responsibility of us here, those who initiated this deterioration in his safety.

  • Alf

    We are asked to believe that £ 14 million was spent on surveillance of man who had skipped bail on a charge that had been dropped.

    That is not true.

    The purpose given for the arrest was untrue. The legal basis for the arrest was bogus. Unless they are going to be able to show that the police routinely spend £14m in the arrest of a bail jumper who know longer stands charged with the original crime.

    If the basis for the arrest was deliberately deceitful then the process that flows from it is based on a false tenet (the whole process is tainted, the process is unreasonable and therefore by definition unlawful)

    • Republicofscotland

      Also on Assange from the link.

      “Democratic Senator Joe Manchin told CNN that they are “going to extradite him. It will be really good to get him back on United States soil. So now he’s our property and we can get the facts and truth from him.”

  • Sharp Ears

    This affectionate tribute to Julian opens with a lovely photo of him (when younger) with Ms Castro and his cat.

    My Friend Julian Assange – Alicia Castro, ex ambassador in London
    Editor’s Note: @ProfessorsBlogg tweeted 14/4 a translation of “Mi Amigo Julian Assange”, authored by Ms Alicia Castro, formerly Argentina’s ambassador in the UK and Venezuela. The text in Spanish appeared the same day in Página 12, Argentina. Text translated by Prof. Marcello Ferrada de Noli, April 14, 2019. / Dr Lena Oske, MD, Acting Editor at The Indicter Magazine.
    theindicter.com/my-friend-julian-assange-alicia-castro-ex-ambassador-in-london/?

    • Twostime

      Ahead of me, that channel has some great satire. Have you seen the pieces on “genuine satire” referring to a law Ausgov wanted to introduce. YCMTSU.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Twostime April 15, 2019 at 13:03
        I don’t follow the channel, I just picked that up on the JA support Facebook page.

        • Twostime

          Paul, seriously check out all their “Honest Gov” vids. I particularly enjoyed the recent one on “The Economy” from the “Department of Class Warfare and Neoliberal Shitfuckery” you can’t ask for more than that 🙂 MODS will be here soon 😉 . Also check out “Visit West-Papua!” & “Visit Timor-Leste!”.

          Don’t let the shitfuckery of the failing globalist/uni-polar powers get you down. Get up, stand up, stand up for our rights :)…

  • N_

    Julian Assange’s defence to the bail skipping charge, to which he pleaded not guilty, didn’t get much coverage, did it? His lawyer argued that he had reasonable excuse because he could not get a fair trial in Britain, a country whose officials were liable to hand him over to their masters in the US. Is he going to appeal?

    Security state cooperation between Britain and the US is automatically considered D-noticed if not technically so. If it’s ever covered it’s 10 times removed and in abstract professionals-only-please terms such as “extraordinary rendition”.

    • Charles Bostock

      The first para of your post is even more convoluted than usual. What has a “fair trial” got to do with the bail-skipping charge? It was an open and shut case – Assange had skipped bail, nobody’s denying that. So the judge was supposed to find him not guilty of skipping bail despite the fact that he had skipped bail? Conclusion : the judge’s verdict was not only fair, it was the only one he could have handed down.

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