Very Interesting Blog! Thank You For Thi Information!

Very Interesting Blog! Thank You For Thi Information!

“Contrary to the false reports disseminated by government agencies, there were no detonators in the toner bombs”.

Can’t find this. Do you have a source Craig?

As you say this mastermind is a very dangerous skilled terrorist (NOT)!

As an aside when can we expect the shoe bomber back ?

MJ

I have a security service source. You won’t find it reported in the MSM – that’s the point. But you may have noticed for example that Sky News have been displaying official photos of the bomb components – but have not shown a detonator.

This is interesting:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3977847,00.html

Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz hinted Monday that Israel received warning of the intent to send bombs to US synagogues on Thursday, before the plot was revealed to the public on the following day.

“Since Thursday Israeli representatives have been on location in sensitive airports around the world, securing shipments to Israel,” he said ahead of a large-scale drill at Ben Gurion International Airport.

A new face on Sky News (well new to me) was Sam Kiley just now billed as a Security Expert. ‘Saudi Arabian intel led to discovery of bombs.’ ‘A Lockerbie type situation was narrowly avoided’….!!

This is him. He is bald.

http://kiley.biz/3.html

Thanks for the voice of sanity.

When the IRA were planting bombs on the British mainland I seem to remember the government telling us to maintain a sense of proportion and to go about our business as usual. Now they want us to get the threat all out of proportion and be scared. What’s changed?

OMG it has just got worse on Sky News. Lord ‘Tanks to Heathrow’ Reid has just come on to spout his muck. Somalia is now on the banned list of flights to the UK.

I had a look at some of the “bomb” pictures. I think that’s a fairly old mobile ‘phone circuit board, not an ’80s TV tuner. “Sophisticated” it is not. Look at the scraps of plastic that hold the board in place, and the screws, all at odd angles and with their slots all badly damaged. It looks like it was built my Mr Blobby. And the Brasso’s come out of the cartridge. Does anyone have any links to any more good pictures, please?

“I have a security service source.”

What was the point of the lead azide if not as a detonator?

Doesn’t make sense.

Ask your sources Craig.

Sending these packages addressed to US synagogues, indeed! Who in the Pentagon came up with that wheeze, I wonder? It’s about as likely as the Klan sending a letterbomb (with return address marked) to the NAACP.

But a couple of purposes have been served. The BA head who called out these “security checks” on passengers as being nonsense is now having fingers pointed at him, with “See? See?” being gleefully trilled by the government. And the fearful, trembling American public has this handy reminder – just before an election – that they should run into the arms of Republicans because (as we all know), they’re so hot on stopping teer’sm.

One other useful side-effect – with all-bomb-all-of-the-time on the news channels, nobody’s talking about cutbacks anymore.

Underpants bomb: … and had shit as a common factor. BS!

Primitive circuit boards: don’t forget that the old valve radios would have been unaffected by the EMP.

This is all real clever stuff! Back to the Future.

gyges,

lead azide is found in commercial detonators. But it can’t just be packed loose into a toner cartridge (as is implied) or it would have exploded when someone put the package down on a counter or loaded a sack into a plane, You can explode lead azide by knocking it or dropping it from only a ew inches onto a hard service. That there was lead azide present outwith a properly manufactured commercial detonator is very unlikely.

My word Alki Ada are busy. This time the Greek police step up to the mark.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/01/nicolas-sarkozy-booby-trap-bomb

The current parcel bomb hysteria was confected by the Mossad to implicate their proxy which is Al Qaeda in Yemen. Blaming muslims who actually work for them is easy and profitable. It means more business for the numerous Israeli security companies who sell body-scanners.

Check out what happened in Holland in 2008 when an Israeli cargo plane carrying their chemical weapons came down on apartment blocks.

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/213891

bomb for sarkozy? 70 million suspects in France.

But Fear not!

The UK government has just banned jumbo-sized toner cartridges in carry-on luggage

An act that is so beyond parody I’m starting to believe that the writers of the Daily Mash are moonlighting as government security advisers

Damn. I always carry a jumbo sized toner cartridge when I fly, because the chances of there being one toner cartridge on a plane are small, but the chances of there being two are tiny.

Wot? I can’t take my beloved jumbo-sized toner cartridges with me anymore every time I fly? Now this is really annoying.

How about banning the word, ‘ink’ on flights? Anyone found using this word, in any language, anywhere in the world, will be detained and fighter-jets despatched. There could be acoustically-trained dogs for the purpose.

inkinkinkinkinkinkinkink!

woofwoofwoofwoofwoof!

There’s a 500g restriction, so you’ll just have to limit yourself

Let’s hope these cunning Tonabombers don’t realise that they can pack their detonator-free explosives into other everyday items, not just toner cartridges. Otherwise things might start to get really silly…

Quite. But on the other hand…

Words weigh nothing.

That’s a concrete poem, of course. Personally, if I were a hacker, I’d encode some really nasty entity in those three words and would send it back down the wires those generating spambots:

‘Words Weigh Nothing’.

Now there’s an idea for someone with the appropriate expertise. I see a ‘Rosebud’ happening.

Very interesting initial reaction by Mad Mel re: the ‘bomb scare’

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6431074/bomb-plot-puzzle.thtml

As Craig does, she is puzzled as to why these parcels would be detonated in mid air if they were addressed to a synagogue

but, dont worry! a little later it all becomes clear. Britain is in a grip of deniers and conspiracy claimers, and WE SHOULD ALL BE IN TERROR OF YEMENI INK TONERS!

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6431984/britains-stillflowing-river-of-denial.thtml

Dropping the heavy handed irony a moment so that even the most obtuse troll can’t pretend he doesn’t get the point…

Every time there’s one of these scares – baseball boots, underpants, hair gel, toner cartridges whatever, that scare is used to implement restrictions on those specific items

…when any idiot should be able to realise that if you can pack explosives into baseball boots, pants, hair gel, or toner cartridges you can pack them into virtually anything else. Identifying these specific items as being riskier than others is a nonsense

Therefore the restrictions on these specific items are total and utter bullshit.

This week toner cartridges. Next week…?

Craig@7:29pm said,

“That there was lead azide present outwith a properly manufactured commercial detonator is very unlikely.”

I’m familiar with the properties of azides, Craig. Further, I distinctly remember the BBC reporting the presence of lead azide in the bomb; I remember because they mispronounced ‘azide’ (they pronounced the initial vowel in a short manner; to my ears it sounded ignorant).

For clarification, are you saying that the BBC report, that there was lead azide present in the bomb, is wrong?

I will also seek clarification from the BBC.

ps thanks for the response.

Hullo Craig,

Apropos me raging at you over at a slightly earlier piece on this topic, would it be fair for me to summarise your position thus?

- Any number of tiny pissweak terrorist threats are faked (by peoples unnamed but presumably Western security services).

- That notwithstanding, the big events such as 911, the July 7 bombing, the Madrid bombing etc. are real and actually committed by real Muslim terrorists exactly as described by the same media that declares all the pissweak ones real too.

Is that right?

Because I have to tell you mate that that’s an untenable position. Why would a SPECTRE/SMERSH style al qaeda carry out the biggest terrorist attacks in the history of the world and then fall down in between times thus requiring our opportunistic secret services to fill in the gaps?

It seems we’re required to believe that the world’s best funded, most professional security services are faking the chickenfeed stuff whilst the big stuff is done by the world’s crummiest, most two-bit operation run out of caves in Afghanistan by blokes on donkeys. It’s akin to having a class of eight year olds in charge of the moon programme whilst NASA gets to set off bottle rockets in the back yard. Honestly mate, it’s that obvious.

C’mon Craig, seriously, when are you going to dump this unsustainable, logic-defying, wishy-washy bullshit? If you’re not prepared to go full-tilt why not just pack it in? I get it that the spooks want everyone to know that David Kelly was whacked, and fair enough that you might be scared, but ditch the charade mate. As the Chinese say, ‘shit or get off the pot’. Are you calling the fuckers out or aren’t you?

Yemen: drones and hunter-killer teams to move in? WSJ

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21726

The Wall Street Journal reports today that the White House and the Pentagon are considering stepping up covert action in Yemen [1], giving the CIA operational control over US military’s Special Forces units. They’d operate what the Journal calls “elite US hunter-killer teams” to go after Al Qaeda and others allegedly responsible for terrorist attacks and attempts against the United States.

In addition, the plan includes using drone attacks, a la Pakistan, to target Al Qaeda operatives.

By giving the CIA control over the Special Forces units, the United States can claim that the whole enterprise is “covert,” that is, that it doesn’t need the permission of Yemen’s government to be carried out. Or, as the Journal puts it, the CIA get “get around restrictions placed on military operations.”

CIA present in Yemen since 2008

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16677

gyges,

who do you think told the BBC? They didn’t expect the bomb themselves. It will be Frank Gardner getting his marching orders from MI6, as usual.

@nobody

assuming that Craig Murray did cross that particular line, he’d either…

a) be reduced to some kind of pathetic Shayler-like figure, used as a media whipping boy to be rididculed as and when it suited

and/ or

b) still berated by Truthers for not promoting their individual perception of what the Truth actually is

If I were in Murray’s shoes, with a young family to look out for and experience of what the establishment smear machine is capable of, I’d certainly think twice

Craig@9:14am

“… who do you think told the BBC?”

I realise now that I was deceived. Further, I have only myself to blame … I feel like the character played by Gregor Fischer in one of the film versions of 1984.

- as predicted ‘somebody’ – ‘nobody’ – softly softly catchee monkey – the ‘states’ powers of ridicule are overwhelming and absolute and right now going ‘full tilt’ means falling off the edge. So, we play the ‘deep state’ at their own game of reinforcement. Logically if we are consistent, intelligent and transparent then the scales will tip in our favour because eventually trying to reinforce a negative fails.

If that sounds cryptic then do some deep thinking – meanwhile I have written to the director of the American Institute of Physics AIP requesting their assistance in the analysis of WTC dust samples.

There are certain things you cant talk about when you want to run for MP other than as an exercise in futility.

Democracy Now! have a segment covering this story. Their coverage seems to run counter to Craig’s original blog post. In particular, they say that the packages were not addressed to synagogues or Jewish organisations.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/2/after_thwarted_bomb_plot_us_military

Also:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/could-a-cell-phone-call-from-yemen-blow-up-a-plane/

And:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-feared-mail-bomb-plot-coming-september-dry/story?id=12025563

gyges, don’t worry; it happens to us all, including me! But if we all do the ‘Ali Shuffle’, they cannot fool all of the people, all of the time (I hope).

The gov’t wants us citizens kept in a state of fear. How else can they infringe upon the rights of individuals?

I have a new alert color to add to the existing ones: BROWN=Gov’t Bullshit!

Wake up America and stop looking for terrorists under your bed!

Another ‘dud’ bomb attack falls into the dark cracks of history. Who *is* Anwar al-Awaki?

My sources tell me he is a CIA asset – CIA Islam. Here from the mostly religious paper, (http://www.salafimanhaj.com/pdf/SalafiManhaj_Awlaki) – we learn the true Muslim perspective on this infidel:

“When one listens to the earlier lectures and khutab of ‘Awlaki it is immediate noticeable that he was … appealing to Middle-Class Muslim professional in the US.”

“Awlaki can be seen in … the PBS documentary Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet (2003) giving a khutbah [religious speech] in an American Congress building at Capitol Hill (!!!?) [there emphasis]”

“Hence there has been a clear transition and methodological shift in the procedure of ‘Awlaki”

“It is possible at this point [moving to Yemen] ‘Awlaki reviewed his methodology to regain credibility after the likes of ‘Abdullah Faisal al-Jamayki [Real name Trevor William Forest] in the late 1990s had actually condemned him for spreading ‘CIA Islam’ and being a ‘Murji’, ‘spy’, ‘a plant of the government’, ‘an enemy of Islam’ etc. See Faisal’s lecture wherein he … condemns ‘Awlaki for being a CIA agent.”

“Al-Awlaki is not known for having participated in any ‘jihad’ whatsoever and this is what has to be highlighted. For he calls to it and hypes up his audiences with it, yet the question has to be asked: upon which battlefield has he fought?”

On the connection between intelligence agencies and jihadis:

“The likes of Omar Bakri, Abu Qatadah al-Filistini, Abu Hamza and a whole host of other takfiri-jihadis [takfiris are muslims who accuse other muslims of being apostates or non-believers, in this context to justify killing them] are well-known for their meetings with not even the police, but with Intelligence Services! Some of them have even been protected and sheltered by them! As in the case of Abu Qatadah al-Filistini after 9/11 which is perhaps the most well-known example in the UK of being sheltered by intelligence services!”

Eventually the state plotters will make a mistake and the deception will glow like the rays of the sun – but will the British public still bask in the heat? because ultimately everyone gets burned.

Some background on Yemen here. More oil, lots more oil — and a chokepoint. And the Yanks are already talking about upping their drone attacks there.

‘The Yemen Hidden Agenda: Behind the Al-Qaeda Scenarios, A Strategic Oil Transit Chokepoint’

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=16786&context=va

It all fits together dreoilin, but truth cannot be seen by unenlightened – only time can turn the tide.

I’m pleased you’ve come to acknowledge that the people for whom you are working do not represent part of the solution.