The Aaronovitch Scandal

by craig on April 24, 2014 5:44 pm in Uncategorized

The Wayback machine has shown that there is a scintilla of truth to Aaronovitch’ claim, in that one single one star review was posted before his procured five star reviews arrived.  But it also shows that four one star reviews, which arrived no earlier than a larger number of five star reviews and appear equally genuine, were deleted by Amazon. No five star reviews were deleted.

I therefore contacted Amazon’s press office to ask for their reaction to Aaronovitch’s admission of posting fake reviews, and asked who initiated the deletion of his poor reviews.  They asked me to put my questions in writing by email.  This I have done.  Answer came there none.

To pressoffice@amazon.co.uk

Re: Voodoo Histories

I refer you to these comments by David Aaronovitch published recently in The Times newspaper:

Something like half of all book sales are now made through Amazon, and when you find a book on Amazon it is accompanied by reviews from “readers” who give it a 1 (lowest) to 5 star rating.  So, almost before my book was published, the first 1-star reviews started to appear, from people who had never read it. After a week, even I wouldn’t have bought it.

There is only one thing you can do in this situation. You ask every friend and family member to go onsite PDQ and 5-star your baby. You get your frauds to balance off their frauds. Ce n’est pas magnifique, mais (grâce à Amazon) c’est la guerre.”

These are my questions:

1) Do you agree it is a reasonable practice for authors to persuade friends and family to post favorable reviews on Amazon? Do you agree with Mr Aaronovitch’s implication that Amazon’s policy forces authors to do this?

2)  A wayback archive search shows that in fact a number of poor reviews of Voodoo Histories were deleted by Amazon.  Did Mr Aaronovitch  contact Amazon to initiate these deletions?

3)  In fact, the poor reviews deleted were not, with a single exception, posted any earlier than similar quantities of five star reviews.  Why was it decided to delete several one star reviews and no five star reviews?  Who took this decision? Was it in any way motivated by Amazon’s own political sympathies? Was it motivated by a desire to boost sales?

4) Now Amazon has been informed by Mr Aaronovitch that the five star reviews were procured, will it be taking action to delete these early five star reviews, particularly those posted on the very day of publication?

5) Do you agree that Mr Aaronovitch’s boasting in the Times of his action in procuring false reviews for Voodoo Histories may, if Amazon will not decry it, encourage other authors to do the same?

I would point out to you that Mr Aaronvitch has himself put these matters into the public domain by publishing his actions in The Times.  It therefore makes no sense for Amazon to refuse to answer any of these questions on the grounds of Mr Aaronovitch’s privacy.

Craig Murray

 

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66 Comments

  1. BrianFujisan

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:15 pm

    Well said Craig…

    See… i collect Mountain Quartz …and Hebridean Stones…

    but i really should have them looked away when certain smuck faces bare on News night….Aaronvitch being one of them… AAAgggg…gave up watching new night now…

    too painful…on the ol ticker

  2. You’re like a terrier Craig. Keep going.

  3. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:26 pm

    I’m not surprised that some authors get their family, friends and colleagues to post favorable reviews on sites like Amazon, and could well imagine that more of this goes on than one would imagine. Wasn’t Orlando Figes involved in something similar a couple of years ago?

    More surprising is that Amazon would delete bad reviews, whether off their own bat or on the suggestion of the author. On the other hand, perhaps they think that bad reviews might put people off from buying, which would mean fewer sales.

    But does any of this say anything about the quality or otherwise of his book? That, I’d suggest, is something one should make one’s own mind up about, preferably after having read it (or at least a good part of it)? Personally, I might listen to what a body of professional reviewers had to say (and even there one would have to be careful since professional jealousy or brotherly back-scratching or diffferent politics might have influenced them), but I wouldn’t dream of letting a collection of anonymous amateur reviewers on Amazon influence whether or not I read a book.

    TBN – the above applies more to non-fiction than to fiction.

  4. You could always put in a subsidiary about the working conditions for their employees. :)

    25 November 2013
    Amazon workers face ‘increased risk of mental illness’
    Online retailer Amazon employs more than 20,000 people across its eight warehouses during its peak Christmas season

    Amazon ‘will convert many temp jobs’ Watch
    Amazon creates 1,500 seasonal jobs
    Union holds protests at Amazon sites

    A BBC investigation into a UK-based Amazon warehouse has found conditions that a stress expert said could cause “mental and physical illness”.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598

    Germany too and everywhere else the same I guess.

    Amazon, Zalando under fire over working conditions
    Reuters | Apr 18, 2014,

    FRANKFURT: Working practices at the German operations of two of Europe’s largest online retailers have come under fire this week, with more strikes at Amazon and Zalando being forced to defend its warehouse operations after a critical TV report.

    Hundreds of workers walked off their jobs at Amazon distribution centers in the German cities of Bad Hersfeld and Leipzig in a year-long pay dispute, and labour union Verdi warned that more walkouts were to follow.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Amazon-Zalando-under-fire-over-working-conditions/articleshow/33907789.cms

    They pay hardly any tax.
    16 May 2013 – Amazon’s UK unit paid £2.4m in corporation tax last year, despite making sales of £4.3bn, the online retailer’s accounts show.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-

    Amazon. Amazing.

  5. The link to the tax payment is http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22549434

  6. Think it’s taking Aaronovitch, Amazon, stars and reviews a bit too seriously.

    Serirus readers know it’s largely bunk. The stars mean nothing unless they are backed up by words from recognized people which give substance to either positive or negative ones or stars.

    I can say this because reviewers choose not to review my efforts.

    Never forget when Professor Reba Sofer refused in print to review my biography of gross manipulator A. V. Dicey in the AHR because it didn’t fit into her views about Britain’s Victorian academe. Gave me the unprecedented chance to review my own work in response.

  7. I’d be interested to see the response, if any is forthcoming. The Press Office may have to seek permission to respond from a higher authority.

  8. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:37 pm

    Postscript – in the same way, if I read your books, it would be because the subject matter interested me and I wanted to learn more, not because some posters on here said they were wonderful. Conversely, I would not not read them because I’d met some former FCO people who smiled when I mentioned your name in a different context and muttered disparaging words (this actually happened, but several years ago, not recently).
    And thereafter I might come across other material and information and in the end – with a bit of luck – be able to make my own mind up about what you had written. The same goes for Aaronovicz’s book on conspiracies.

  9. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:53 pm

    When I was writing my first one, the counter stood at “Have your say” (or something similar) and I thought “gosh, don’t tell me I’m going to be the first one in!”.

    Push send button.

    Quelle déception! I had, of course, reckoned without…..Mary.

  10. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 6:55 pm

    and the Black-Belted One

  11. Oh, and from the review I read in the Observer, I think Arronoviitch has written a crappy book about dubious, if not crappy, conspiracy theories, starting with the facts that both the JFK conspiracy and the 9/11 one turned out to be terrible cockups, as with most conspiracies, because of surprises, plotters changing their minds about them, those not involved learning about them and somehow spoiling them, etc.

    I can assure you that I shall not look any further about the book, much less buy yet more zoo do history.

  12. “You’re like a terrier Craig. Keep going.”

    I see him more as my number 125 bus.

  13. Commenting on here is not a competitive Limp Ic sport, yet. Calm down! You will soon catch up.

    Just saw this and smiled. On the same level of idiocy as Miliband D with his banana.

    Two robots bow to each other.
    http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/4/24/304642/default/v1/486384341-1-778×437.jpg

    http://lastditch.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f09b69e20120a8cc708e970b-popup

  14. @Habbabkuk

    No, the Orlando Figes case was far worse than asking your family to review the book, which, as you say, probably happens a lot. Orlando Figes was found out pseudonymously trashing the works of his rivals while praising his own books. Pretty low behaviour, in my opinion, and he was roundly condemned and humiliated when it was discovered.

  15. It makes you wonder what else he is being dishonest about, doesn’t it?
    I’ve found you can’t rely on the Amazon star ratings at all. My strategy is usually to sift through them for people who seem to know what they are talking about.

  16. Resident Dissident

    24 Apr, 2014 - 10:33 pm

    Having read both Voodoo Histories and Murder in Samarkand all I can say that Aaronovich admitting to posting fake reviews on Amazon in order to counter poor reviews, which I suspected Amazon deleted because they were no doubt libellous (just look at the type of comments made here on the very mention of his name) is hardly the worst offence that an author has had the courage to admit to publicly. Is it Craig?

    I’m afraid that Aaronovitch has a different world view to most on this blog and to his credit he argues it well and consistently. Those who are fair minded and grown up are quite capable of understanding that others may have different views from their own and can still be decent people and just confine themselves to the arguments that they raise – others cannot.

  17. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    24 Apr, 2014 - 11:53 pm

    KoWN

    Yes, you’re right, I’d forgotten the detail! Can’t remember which book it was either, but I do remember finding his book on the Russian revolution/civil war well-written and researched and impressive.

    Anyway, I stand by my point that to base one’s decision on whether to read a book or not – and a fortiori to praise or condemn a book without having read it – on the comments of God know who on Amazon is not a very intelligent approach.

  18. Aaronovitch is a gatekeeper.

    To be accepted in mainstream journalistic circles, you must offer Tribute. Tis the Roman way.

    Yet he is a villain. A scoundrel who supports the establishment, drones, a once lefty turned neocon warmongerer-in-chief, whether Iraq, Afghanistan or even to destroy the poor people of Syria.

    He is a stooge of Israel and never ceases to defend them.

    He is old and soon his writings will be consigned to the dustbin of history. Real history is written by the living. No one will remember him. His impact will be inconsequential. His reach, nought. Expose him for what he is but never believe him anything than a fraud.

  19. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 12:17 am

    Marcus Smith

    “Real history is written by the living.”
    _________________

    Leaving aside the fact that “real history” is the header of David Irving’s blog/website, I would point out that there are no attested examples to date of a work of history having been written by a dead man or woman.

    It could, on the other hand, be argued rather plausibly that many of the comments on here are written by zombies (the living dead). Just kiddin’!

  20. I think we all know by now Aaronovitch is programmmed straight out of Chatham House or the RUSI.

    We are in a time when their shite has never been so obvious and morally and intellectually bankrupt.

    Bit like Frank Gardiner and Melanie Sykes/Nick Cohen et al.

    Intersting times y’all eh?

  21. Habbabkuk,

    “It could, on the other hand, be argued rather plausibly that many of the comments on here are written by zombies (the living dead). Just kiddin’!”

    *********

    Bereft of a coherent argument as ever Habba it’s duly noted you regress towards abstraction,sniderism.

    You’re a smart cat Habba.Why on earth do you demean yourself defending the indefensible?

    Money? Hubris?

    Pray tell?

  22. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 8:04 am

    Jives

    Well, Craig has on occasion warned against attempting to ascribe motivation, but still:

    Certainly not money. Hubris – possibly, but who is without some element of that?

    What about you – why do you keep banging on about the same things, without any particular status or expertise on or knowledge of those things? Do you feel that your interventions make any difference to anything, or do you just enjoy the echo-chamber sensation?

  23. Another example here of the 5 Star treatment for a book.

    Re ‘Under the Wire’ by the Sunday Times photographer who was injured in Syria. He accompanied the Marie Colvin who was killed.

    All but two or three of the 27 reviews are 5 Star! The odd ones out are 2,3 or 4 star.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Under-Wire-Paul-Conroy/dp/1782065253/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    5.0 out of 5 stars Riveting, inspirational, searing and brilliantly written
    Paul Conroy is the real deal – a war photographer who has risked all on many occasions to travel into the world’s worst places where the suffering of the locals is at its most extreme to reveal to the world what the world needs to know, but so often chooses to ignore. As such he takes far greater risks than any one individual should ever have to, with little specialist…
    Read the full review ›

    › See more 5 star, 4 star reviews versus

    2.0 out of 5 stars A great story but a terrible book.
    I don’t often write reviews but in this case I felt I had to offer a balance to the baffling amount of 5 star reviews this book received, because a couple of chapters in I was annoyed that I’d been encouraged by them. I can only imagine they were given by friends and family of the author.

    Here’s the thing: Under The Wire is a great story but a terrible book…
    Read the full review ›

    Under the Wire by the Sunday Times photographer who was injured in Syria. He accompanied the Marie Colvin who was killed.

    All but two or three of the 27 reviews are 5 Star! The odd ones out are 2 or 3 star.

  24. …the reporter, Marie Colvin,……

  25. I disagree with Habbabkuk and Trowbridge. I write and read a lot of reviews on Amazon, especially on the US site where the reviews are frankly usually of a better standard, as I read a lot and the reviews help me decide which books to buy. It is not necessary to know what the reputation of the reviewer is, you can usually tell from the way the review is written whether it is genuine in intent.

    Btw I have no axe to grind about Aaronovitch, I don’t like him much having seen him on Question Time once, but i don’t know much about him.

  26. Here is the shipping forecast.

    Storm warnings have been issued for sea area Teacup…

  27. Mhara Castello

    25 Apr, 2014 - 12:13 pm

    Marcus Smith; Bravo.

  28. CAPTCHA has now erroneously prevented many times a reasoned reply from appearing.

    All I will attempt now is stating that I just do what conjunction does in his research.

    And I object to Aaronopvitch using the paranoid state of today’s world to dismiss the role of conspiracies and those professionals who try to document them rather than writing an expanded critique of what Ricard Hofstadter wrote about America’s political tradition

  29. Paul de Rooij

    25 Apr, 2014 - 1:17 pm

    A few years ago, Zionist groups targeted a book by prof. Mona Baker, and entered many derogatory one-star reviews for one of her books. It was evident that many of these comments were statements against her, and had nothing to do with the book. Even so, Amazon refused to remove the negative comments.

    There is a Zionist operator, Alyssa Lapen (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Alyssa_Lappen), who has made a little industry out of biased book reviews at Amazon and other book retailers, and she spreads derogatory / laudatory “reviews” according to her ideological preferences. Books portraying the Palestinian narrative/history are denigrated; any pro-Israeli book receives the mandatory 5-star

    Amazon has allowed the review section to be an ideologically polluted battleground.

  30. In doing so, one should add that Amazon has just made record profits.

    And speaking of conspiracies, a witness of the South Korean ferry sinking has claimed that its sterling gear went out of control when it was directed to change course by 5 degrees, doing 45 degrees instead, and starting the process which caused it quickly to fill with water, capsize, and sink.

    Was it too sabotaged, and is it part of America’s pivot to the Far East?

  31. I hope you get a good explanation from amazon, one way or the other. My guess is that if five 1-star reviews all said “This book is nonsense” with no further elaboration, amazon might take the view that they said substantially the same thing, and delete the ones considered to be redundant.

  32. Thanks, Abe Rene, but I am not going to devote my tome to stopping Aaronovitch – what I am sure would bring this response from it: what one would expect from a self-proclaimed conspiracy theorist!

    Regarding the apparent sabotaging of the South Korean ferry, wonder where the special attack submarine USS Jimmy Carter and its submersibles were just before it set sail?

  33. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 3:26 pm

    Trowbridge

    “Regarding the apparent sabotaging of the South Korean ferry, wonder where the special attack submarine USS Jimmy Carter and its submersibles were just before it set sail?”
    _____________

    Up your backside, perhaps?

  34. I had a look at the paperback version in a Waterstones this morning Priced at £8.99 and placed in the politics section rather than the fiction section. :)

    It has a lurid yellow cover with circular cutouts to a black card revealing thumbnail photos of Marilyn Monroe, JFK and the Twin Towers. A sort of peep show. Tacky and common. Not even worth a fiver.

    Aa should know that in nature, yellow and black signify danger or something distasteful. A songbird for instance will avoid eating a yellow and black caterpillar like that of the cinnabar moth which feeds on ragwort before it pupates. Ragwort is poisonous to cattle and horses.

    A reminder that saboteurs placed BLiar’s A Journey in the travel sections of bookshops.

  35. You should’ve bought the hardback Mary, the dust jacket was a much more restrained blue-grey colour. I picked my copy up at a second hand book shop for £2. Got a bargain on a book I wanted and helped a small business.

    Trowbridge, ships should be able to handle sudden turns. Supposing one had to be made in an emergency to avoid a collision? Reports also claim the ferry was overloaded or was that the work of the CIA too?

  36. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 4:42 pm

    Mary

    “It has a lurid yellow cover with circular cutouts to a black card revealing thumbnail photos of Marilyn Monroe, JFK and the Twin Towers. A sort of peep show. Tacky and common. Not even worth a fiver.”
    ________________-

    Have you ever been to a peep-show, Mary?

    Perhaps not, so I’ll contribute to your general education.

    The cover displays the subjects of three of the most popular conspiracy theories (the Monroe one is about her having been murdered at the behest of the Kennedys). The lurid colours perhaps symbolise the lurid nature of many conspiracy theories

    Peep shows, on the other hand, usually feature naked women writhing on a revolving platform as they simulate pleasuring themselves. Sometimes they featue couples fucking.

    All clear now?

  37. Kempe, ships with sabotaged steering gear cannot make turns, and the USS Jimmy Carter belongs to the Pentagon, not he CIA.

    You sound like David Aaronovitch, dealing with his critics..

  38. I did not buy the book for goodness’ sake.

    If the t—l thinks he is shocking everyone, he is failing. Suggest he washes his mouth out. Getting as smutty as Aaronovitch.

  39. ” a witness of the South Korean ferry sinking has claimed that its sterling gear went out of control when it was directed to change course by 5 degrees, doing 45 degrees instead, ”

    ” ships with sabotaged steering gear cannot make turns, ”

    Make your mind up, please.

  40. Stop cutting and pasting to make it look like I have changed my mind when I just think that the steering gear became uncontrollable, once it was directed to turn 5 degrees in some direction.

  41. While I reserve opinion I have noticed certain things about the sunk South Korean ferry.

    1. It went down very fast.
    2. The BBC and other channels keep referring to the island where it was heading as Jindo island. Newspaper reports too.
    3. Alternatively it is occasionally referred to as Jeju island.
    4. Jeju island is where the US is land-grabbing to build one of its latest naval bases to the chagrin of local inhabitants.

    Like I say, I reserve opinion. But I’m watching because I do not trust the Yanks.

  42. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:31 pm

    John Goss

    Yes it must have hit the wreck of the Malaysian airlines flight which the US hid down there.

    I think I shall blame the US for my lottery number not coming up.

  43. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:35 pm

    Lady Dorking

    Any others books that you’d like to condemn – I’m looking for something to read. Clearly we should judge a book by its cover.

  44. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:40 pm

    “A reminder that saboteurs placed BLiar’s A Journey in the travel sections of bookshops.”

    And in the process just made work for underpaid shop assistants – and possibly increased the sales of the book by bringing its attention to a different (and I daresay bigger) audience other than those who frequent the politics/biography sections.

    You have already been told off for taking your coffee at the wrong place!

  45. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 9:58 pm

    At the risk of scotching Mr Goss’s latest conspiracy theory in its infancy – might I suggest that he looks up Jindo and Jejo Islands on Google Maps – they are two separate islands over a 100km apart. The ferry was on its way to Jeju but sank when it was near to Jindo as even the most basic of research would reveal – but hey lets start a conspiracy theory blaming the US without any evidence whatsoever.

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.0752364,127.4885826,8z

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/south-korea-ferry-accident_n_5203673.html

  46. RD, 100k is nothing to the US Navy.

    I said I reserve my opinion. Which I still do despite you trying to make out I already have a ‘conspiracy theory’ the phrase of the unenlightened non-inquiring mind.

  47. By the way RD I suspect that the plane is on Diego Garcia, the passengers are in its prison, or worse, and we will see it with a new coat of paint in some attempt to discredit Muslims, the Viet Cong, or whoever the latest imaginary enemy is, or whoever they want to try their latest weapons on, attacking a building containing irreplaceable records of shady government dealings, and everybody will be happy except those who have lost loved ones, and those of us sympathetic.

  48. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 11:11 pm

    “By the way RD I suspect that the plane is on Diego Garcia, the passengers are in its prison, or worse, and we will see it with a new coat of paint in some attempt to discredit Muslims, the Viet Cong,….”
    __________________

    I do love the reference to the Viet Cong. Quite revealing of where Comrade Goss’s mind has been stuck for all these years.

    Wake up, Rip Van Winkel!

  49. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 11:29 pm

    From the one with the two degrees:

    “I said I reserve my opinion. Which I still do despite you trying to make out I already have a ‘conspiracy theory’ the phrase of the unenlightened non-inquiring mind.”
    ____________________

    So anyone who does not believe that Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe were the victims of a conspiracy, or does not believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy, is “unenlightened” and lacks an “enquiring mind”.

    ***********************

    Gegen die Dummheit kaempfen selbst die Goetter umsonst.

  50. Resident Dissident

    25 Apr, 2014 - 11:30 pm

    John Goss

    More bluster – you are dissembling, you thought the two islands were the same and were trying to use them to insinuate a link to the US.

    Aaronovich has a para in his book about this type of technique which is commonly employed by you and your fellow conspiracists. I sure he won’t mind me quoting:

    “3 Just asking questions

    … A primary technique employed has been the advocation of the ‘it’s not a theory’ theory. The theorist is just asking certain disturbing questions because of a desire to seek out the truth, and the reader is supposedly left to make up his or her mind. The question asked of course, only makes sense if the questioner really believes that there is indeed a secret conspiracy.”

    Sounds familiar Mr Goss? Perhaps you should read Mr Aaronovich’s book before playing your games, you might not be so obvious.

  51. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Apr, 2014 - 11:47 pm

    Thanks for that heads up, Resident Dissident.

    I’m beginning to see why certain Eminences have got their peckers out to piss all over Aaronovicz’s book.

    I shall buy a copy tomorrow, 5 star reviews notwithstanding.

  52. “… A primary technique employed has been the advocation of the ‘it’s not a theory’ theory. The theorist is just asking certain disturbing questions because of a desire to seek out the truth, and the reader is supposedly left to make up his or her mind. The question asked of course, only makes sense if the questioner really believes that there is indeed a secret conspiracy.””

    In this Jeju, Jindo case, yes, I was testing the water to see if MSM had another case to answer. I did not look at any maps beforehand because I thought it more conceivable that that there was a linguistic mistake or misinterpretation, as with Beijing and Peking. Thank you for pointing out my mistake with the two islands.

  53. By the way, RD, Aaronovitch is one of the biggest liars in the journalistic world, as pointed out by Craig on this feed, but evidenced by me. No wonder he supports that even bigger liar, Tony Blair. You are welcome to buy his book. But it will only add to the misinformation you already present as fact.

  54. Resident Dissident

    26 Apr, 2014 - 12:34 am

    Aaronovitch is one of the biggest liars in the journalistic world,as pointed out by Craig on this feed, but evidenced by me.

    Hardly – he admitted what he was doing on Amazon. As for your evidence where is it?

    I’m afraid you are again confusing disagreeing with your rather idiosyncratic political views with dishonesty.

  55. “As for your evidence where is it?”

    I’m not going searching for it. Some time back Mary posted a link to an Aaronovitch interview on Craig’s blog to which I listened and caught him talking about how he had opinions at college which were in line with his current opinions in support of Tony Blair’s wars in Iraq and elsewhere. But in those days, the days of his youth, he was left-wing. You need to find it yourself. I left a comment. But relying on memory nowadays is not good for my credibility. It’s there.

  56. Habbakuk and Resident Dissident,

    You’re both so far up each others troll arses you ought get married.

    Pathetic tag-team trolling these last few threads.

    Do give over yeah?

  57. Resident Dissident

    26 Apr, 2014 - 10:14 am

    ” But in those days, the days of his youth, he was left-wing.”

    My memory of Aaronovitch in his youth when he was NUS President is that although notionally a Communist he was seen as being anything but on the left – there were a number of occasions where he openly supported Conservative positions much to the chargin of the Trots, many of whom if they are still around (rather than sold their souls to the devil and taken well paid jobs in the media) would I suspect undoubtedly believe that there has been little change in Aaronovitch’s overall political stance.

    Anyway since when does someone changing their political stance make someone a liar – as always your claim is unsupported.

  58. When I was looking around for Aa’s book, I came across one written by this author, Dr Kent Kiehl. Most interesting.

    Psychopaths: Born evil or with a diseased brain?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15386740

    The book:The Psychopath Whisperer: Inside the Minds of Those Without a Conscience [Paperback] Kent Kiehl

    A chilling and provocative scientific dissection of the psychopath’s brain
    Fact: A psychopath is 6 times more likely to commit a new crime after release from prison.
    Fact: Some forms of group therapy make psychopaths more likely to commit a new crime compared to no treatment at all.
    Fact: A psychopath is born every 47 seconds.

    Kent Kiehl is the Psychopath Whisperer , a neuroscientist who has dedicated his career to understanding what makes a mind turn criminal. Are psychopaths evil and untreatable, or do they suffer from a mental illness comparable to schizophrenia or epilepsy? Do they have free will? Based on breathtaking research, including personality surveys and brain imaging scans of thousands of criminals, Kiehl pinpoints the biological machinery of psychopathy and offers a radical new perspective on identifying & treating the psychopaths in our midst.

  59. The tr—s leave such silly trails of nonsense combined with personal insults enabling other readers who visit here to see them for what they are. Perhaps too much alcohol is being consumed as the witching hour approaches.

  60. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    26 Apr, 2014 - 5:51 pm

    The John Goss list of pathetic “excuses” grows:

    “I was only joking”

    and now

    “In this Jeju, Jindo case, yes, I was testing the water”

    When oh when will Goss have the balls to own up and say “yes, I was wrong”?

    Old-style Soviet thinking is indeed difficult to root out.

  61. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    26 Apr, 2014 - 5:55 pm

    “The tr—s leave such silly trails of nonsense combined with personal insults enabling other readers who visit here to see them for what they are”
    _____________________

    Perhaps the real trolls are the Marys, John Gosses and their not very intelligent hangers-on. The more I read their posts, the more I’m coming to believe that they are being put up to it with the aim of discrediting this blog (and, by association, its founder) with the wider reading public. There is no other explanation for the stuff they pour out at all hours of the day, day after day!

  62. Resident Dissident

    26 Apr, 2014 - 6:26 pm

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/04/the-aaronovitch-scandal/#comment-454363

    What a thoroughly nasty post – the sort of thing that real trolls post.

  63. Recall Jon Snow interviewing Aaronovitch plus friend of David Kelly on CH4 News a few years ago. DK’s friend was calling for an inquest into Kelly’s death, and here was Aaronovitch a “Journalist” pushing the line that it was clearly a waste of public money. Snow couldn’t believe his ears. He wasn’t alone!

  64. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    26 Apr, 2014 - 11:18 pm

    Clydebank

    Jon Snow specialises in the stern yet incredulous look.

    To do a “Mary” on him, I think it’s because his father was a bishop.

  65. RD objects to a post I made above about a book I saw in a Waterstones. The post is a straight copy of the Amazon entry!

    Perhaps it is the subject of the book that upsets him so much. A scientific study of the brains of psychopaths and how they work.

    A proper book as opposed to the Aa tripe.

    The t—-s become more ridiculous by the day. Can we have some new replacements please.

  66. Gilad Atzmon in 2010. Spot on. The Miliband was David.

    Aaronovitch Miliband & Me by Gilad Atzmon (a Multimedia Show) http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/aaronovitch-miliband-me-by-gilad-atzmon-a-multimedia-show.html

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