A mainstream media source has finally plucked up the courage to publish the widespread concern among MOD, Cabinet Office and FCO officials and military that the Werritty operation was linked to, and perhaps controlled by, Mossad – something which agitated officials have been desperately signaling for some days.
“Officials expressed concern that Fox and Werritty might even have been in freelance discussions with Israeli intelligence agencies” write Patrick Wintour and Richard Norton-Taylor in the Guardian.
As I have been explaining, the real issue here is a British defence secretary who had a parallel advice structure designed expressly to serve the interests of another state and linked to that state’s security services. That is not just a sacking offence, it is treasonable.
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It seems to me the questions now starting to be asked about the connection to Israel and possibly to Mossad might well have had a major effect on Fox’s sudden throwing in of the towel. If he did not believe that resigning would stop some further investigation, he might as well have toughed it out over the weekend; nobody has ever accused Fox of being thin-skinned.
The need for answers to my questions to Matthew Gould is in fact now greater, not less.
“By the way, even CNN are casting aspersions on this “very scary” Iranian “terror plot”.”
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alex jones is now claiming that the Israelis have been given the green light to attack iran (next 2 weeks or so) .. via his sources in US govt and US army. also US troop build up in region ..
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who would know ?
Mary:
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OFCOM were not prepared to issue a statement when I asked them for the reasons behind the decision to take PressTV off-air in the UK. Instead they gave me an email address so that I can ask for a ‘phone-back’ from the ‘standards team’ who are considering the action to be taken against PressTV.
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OFCOM had previously issued a statement that said:
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‘UK law sets a very high standard for denying licences to broadcasters. Licences can only be denied in cases where national security is threatened, or if granting a licence would be contrary to Britain’s obligations under international law. Currently neither of these standards can be met with respect to Press TV, but if further sanctions are imposed on Iran in the coming months a case may be able to be made on the second criterion.’
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The reference to ‘Royal’ by Press TV originates from an article by Dipesh Gadher of the Sunday Times who on information received, criticised PressTV over:
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publishing an public opinion poll about the royal wedding. The results of the poll revealed that 65 percent of British people felt the royal wedding was an unnecessary official expense imposed on tax-payers.
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Also a complaint by Simons, Muirhead & Burton, the legal firm representing journalist Maziar Bahari who was detained in Iran, complained to Ofcom that he was “treated unfairly and that his privacy was unwarrantably infringed in the making and broadcast of a discussion programme”. The complaint also said Press TV did not seek Bahari’s permission to film and air the interview.
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In response, Press TV denied the interview was biased, saying Bahari did not “dispute the truth and accuracy” of the extract of the interview it broadcast, so it made “no logical sense” to claim it required his consent.
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PressTV maintained its policy was not to accept “scripted” interview questions from any third party or to “put pressure on an individual to give an interview or continue recording if an individual requested the recording to stop”.
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In summary Ofcom said Press TV’s presentation of Bahari was unfair because it “omitted material facts and was placed in a context in which inferences adverse to Mr Bahari could be drawn”.
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According to the WikiLeaks cables, the Foreign Office told an American diplomat in 2010 that the government was “exploring ways to limit the operations of … Press TV”.
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interesting that al qaeda attacked the twin towers as a symbol of the US $ / economy – the financial abuse it pursued, attacked the pentagon as a symbol of US military abuse, sought Palestinian state .. encouraged an arab awakening (muslim awakening against their leaders and US), sought to bankrupt the US through its intervention in Afghanistan … and encouraged the west people to seek democracy and freedom by removing zionists / neo con nwo (globalisation)
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10 years on and seems that wish list has been fulfilled.
“OFCOM were not prepared to issue a statement when I asked them for the reasons behind the decision to take PressTV off-air in the UK.”
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a good few apps for android / iphone if you want to get presstv live feed on your phones .. ipads .. netbooks .. laptops .. net top media centers (via xbmc etc )
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“I do not want that stuff being pumped into living rooms across the land.”
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Of course DLJ you are entitled to that opinion – nobody is asking you to tune-in. Nobody was asking for anyone to witness the US smashing of Iraq in ‘shock & awe’ and the burning of children’s bodies while sat on their living room mats patiently waiting for breakfast on a bright sunny morning in March 2003.
One to watch:
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‘The Whistleblower’ – High Fliers Films
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Trafficking of young 12-15 yr old children for sex from Bosnia by American military and government service contractors such as DynCorp.
DLJ, I regard all media as being affected by bias, and all mainstream media as being affected by propaganda. I would therefore disagree with Mark Golding that PressTV is “the light and the voice of truth”. My interpretation of mainstream media is similar to Chomsky and Herman’s “Propaganda Model”. I certainly observe bias, propaganda and censorship in the mainstream media in the UK:
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http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/01/biased_broadcas/
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http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2007/04/video_killed_th/
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I recently criticised The Commentator website, which you quoted from, as being highly biased, but I made no suggestion that it should be censored or blocked.
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Since all we have is propaganda of one sort and another, what is your reasoning behind your desire to see PressTV closed down?
Mark Golding, do you have a link for the article by Dipesh Gadher of the Sunday Times? And any other relevant articles, too, please.
I doubt if the Israelis were finding Fox to be anywhere near as cooperative as Blair, Dearlove or Scarlett, who all bent over backwards (and forwards in the case of Blair). Working for the Israelis doesn’t break a career, it makes one. Fox’s successor is sure to be more ‘punchy’. The reason why Liam Fox said that Libya was almost wrapped up wasn’t because NATO is about to win. It was because the MOD brass have had enough. The Libyan fiasco has ramped up psy-ops to a new level. To spare us another Chilton enquiry after the Libya fiasco, we should say straight away that the attack on Libya was motivated by the need to collateralize the sovereign debt of the bankrupted aggressor nations. The oil under the ground is enough. The Rothschilds accept any oil as collateral even if it’s stolen. The policy is the same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Libya: chaos. Perle and Wolfowitz fooled Rumsfeld into invading Iraq with half the troops that were needed. What was the result? Years of war against Saddam’s stay-behind army plus Mossad/Al-Qaeda black ops complete with beheadings. About one and a half million dead so far, according to the BMA. Afghanistan has lasted ten years and the MOD plans to make it 15 although they know they won’t win. In Libya, because the UK is bankrupt, Vauxhall Cross had the bright idea of running a bargain basement war using Al-Qaeda. Lord James told the House of Lords last November that at the Bank of England he was managing accounts for the IRA and ‘North African terrorists’ to the tune of billions, not millions. Taxpayers’ money. MI6 thought that after the colossally expensive disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan, they could conquer Libya on the cheap. They forgot that the Libyans fought the Italians like lions and lost a million people. The Algerians kicked out the French and also lost a million. The idiots in London thought they could break Libya with an untrained army and a lot of NATO bombing. Without NATO, Gadaffi would be back in Tripoli in a week. There is zero prospect of victory in Libya. Gadaffi did an excellent job in Libya. He turned the poorest country in Africa into an “African Switzerland”. Also he had nothing to do with Lockerbie, the killing of Yvonne Fletcher or the Berlin disco bombing – all were NATO false flag ops. So bring back Gadaffi and let him rebuild Libya. Putin needs to send the Black Sea Fleet to relieve Sirte.
Send e-mails to the Russian Embassy in London today.
E-mail: [email protected]
[And by the way, for anybody that thinks that Putin killed Litvinenko, he was killed by the British, at the behest of the Rothschilds who are still smarting after the hiding they got from Putin in 2003. Litvineko was a classic squeezed lemon. There is no way that the Russians would have repeated the Bulgarian umbrella fiasco. If Mrs Litvinenko goes to the Russian Embassy they may tell her how she might be able to get a lot of money out of the British government just for keeping quiet. The case involves forensic stuff that’s been kept out of the British press.]
Clark – I am waiting for a reply from the OFCOM Standards team and the research information I hold may be pertinent to an appeal if a decision by the OFCOM standards team goes against PressTV.
An impressive piece Gordon Logan – I am somewhat breathless at your extraordinary insight. Are you connected with intelligence?
Former boss of Mossad, Meir Dagan, responded to one of my internet jibes in April when he said publicly that he had never heard such an ‘idiotic’ idea as attacking Iran. The Israeli leadership is split between the Rothschild/World Government puppets like Netanyahu and the military/intel nationalists like Dagan. If Iran is attacked Israel will receive a few thousand missiles, and Dagan et al don’t relish the idea. Unfortunately the removal of Dagan prepared the way for an attack on Iran. Also the removal of Bob Gates from the Pentagon. Although Gates is a war criminal, he represented the brass, such as Admiral Fallon, who got Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz out and opposed the Iran attack. Fallon actually defied orders in 2008. Panetta is a worthless individual who will bend with any wind. Someone has rightly remarked that the UK has two governments: a aecret permanent dictatorship and a ‘democratic’ government. That is why our ‘democratic’ governments are so similar. Politicians have built-in disposability – vulnerabilities that make it easy for them to be got rid of. Hence their obvious spinelessness, reflected in the vacuous recent party conferences. Two exceptions stand out: Harman and Hodge (nee Oppenheimer) who both fearlessly blasted highly controversial legislation through parliament. Both are Jewish and openly support paedophiles. Their chutzpah is significant. Also Mandelson, who is close to the permanent government, shows a lot of confidence.
@ Guest:
“Many have asked that question throughout the many years that have gone before, the answer is, there are none, if there were we would have found them by now, we would not. Governments are merely a reflection of what the human race is. Change may come in evolution not revolution, sadly, mankind has a long, long, wait ahead of him.”
Cheer up, mate. You’ve given up before you’ve begun. View it as an intellectual challenge. If you’ve got the time and energy to bitch about it, you have the time &c to think about mitigating it.
@ Mary, well done you. Sincerely. But without a widespread public perception of undue influence as a bad thing, to be resisted, you can cheerfully be dismissed as a crazy minority by the Establishment. Particularly as a large proportion of all MPs have sold their souls to FOI. And focussing on FOI ignores the generic problem.
Gordon Logan’s profile from the live link on his name above here.
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About Me
2001,Wrote leaflets for UKIP pre GE, under name ‘whatsbestforbritain’; Dad’s Army theme. Hague copied a few phrases. 2001, Rejoined Conservatives when IDS became leader. 2003, Ran deselection campaign in Kensington & Chelsea to stop Portillo undermining IDS. 2003, Key Figure in Save The British Hallmark Campaign. 2005, Howard uses my phrase ‘whatsbestforbritain’ throughout GE campaign.
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2005, ++++++ Supporter of Liam Fox for leadership. Being trained (briefly) to work media for Liam.++++++!!!!
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Described as a ‘Free Spirit’ by Nigel Farage, a ‘Successful Activist’ by Roger Helmer, ‘Nothing To Do With The Conservative Party’ by Michael Portillo and and a ‘Bloody Fool’ by Owen Paterson (re my UKIP period!). Designed EU Constitution ‘rocket’ leaflet. Graphic copied by The Sun. Harriet Harman repeated my phrase in Commons that all men would leave the country if she became leader, not enough airports. Coined ‘Cherie Antoinette’ epithet. Used on HIGN4U. See More Bio on pages.
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Who’s sorry now? Some revising needed perhaps.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428
IF:
MP’s were subject to performance assessment, based on their adherence to their individual pre-election manifestoes, and paid by results. Like real employees.
IF MP’s were at all times permitted to vote with their own conscience, in line with their individual manifestoes, and not subject to Party whips or to any undertakings given in their Party’s general manifesto;
IF their pre-election manifestoes were legally obliged to contain undertakings on specific areas of policy, and if their pre-election publicity were limited to this manifesto content; the cost of such publicity being strictly limited by law;
AND IF NO gifts, considerations or emoluments in cash or kind were permitted to any serving or ex-MP from any interest bearing on his Parliamentary or ministerial function were permitted;
I think we might have a cleaner legislature.
I would also suggest that ministers of state were chosen by an all-party committee from MP’s with some pretence of experience in the field of interest, and that promotions to the Lords should be by secret ballot rather than appointment.
Is that such an earth-shattering change?
Front page of tomorrow’s Observer:
“Revealed: Hidden Tory links to US radical right”
http://twitpic.com/70u3tg
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If you hover your cursor over the *top right corner* of the picture (just above the guy with the fish) you’ll see you can increase the size. (But it’s huge.)
Mark,
If Iran had not started jamming BBC Persian broadcasts, I would guess PressTV, which is an arm of the Iranian State, would be getting an easier ride. That said, we’re the ones flaunting our freedom of speech and criticising Iran’s lack of it, so banning PressTV can only be regarded as rank hypocrisy.
Personally, and with apologies to its supporters, I rank PressTV alongside the Israeli/neocon backed MEMRI website in the credibility stakes. Low.
Gordon Logan
‘Gadaffi did an excellent job in Libya. He turned the poorest country in Africa into an “African Switzerland”.’
This is absolutely not correct. There was a minority of very wealthy ‘favoured’ Libyans; then there were the not so well off and the poor. One way of saving for old age, family weddings etc used to be to invest in a flat put out to rent. Under Gaddafi most people were allowed their home, anything else was sequestered by the state which has left many old people without an income other than the state benefit of a few dinars a week.
I entirely agree with you that Gaddafi had nothing to do with Lockerbie and the killing of Yvonne Fletcher.
Heh Mark. Just reading the words of wisdom from Mr Logan and I gotta tell you … I am out of here.
Good luck, so long and thanks for the fish.
I love it.
Gordon Logan:
‘The attack on Libya was motivated to collateralise the sovereign debt of the bankrupted aggressor nations.’ followed by:
‘If Iran is attacked, Israel will receive a few thousand missiles.’
So , reading between the lines, the UK great and good, including Craig, are happy to be slaves to the Zionist Bankers, and for the sake of a few millions in their pockets and a few trillions in government loans, bomb the shit out of countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, where they don’t expect to take much of a thrashing in return. Craig’s previous line was that there were many flaws with the argument that Zionist Banking power was having an overdue influence of UK foreign policy etc.
But when Israel starts thinking they can put the UK up for launching an attack on Iran, because they have us even more by the very short and curlys than before by bankrupting our system,
the great and the good start leaking and spinning against Israel.
That’s the problem. The great and the good have been promised that if they’re good boys and girls, they won’t be let down.
The economic cycle will spin round again. But what if they’re not good? What if they don’t do Iran? The UK ends up looking like the great depression in the US or survivors of the holocaust. Even if they lorries stop for a week, nothing moves.
Iran is the Jewel in the Crown of UK policy against Islam. The best chance they have to destroy Islam is from within, setting up a Shi’a chaliphate and promoting its corruption and heresy as an alternative to the logic and integrity of real Islam.
Islam has proved to be remarkably self-healing after the endless repetition of war, massacre of scholars, and deviating of the masses through the last 1000 years. The Qur’an is the healer.
There is absolutely no chance at all that the UK US or Europe will ever attack Iran. Firstly because Iran has been given nuclear technology by Israel , which they might use against us, secondly because our nuclear weapons are controlled entirely by Israel so the red button might not work, as Iran well knows, and thirdly because Iran is a friend in the war against Islam.
This leaves open the option that Israel could attack Iran directly, ‘receiving a few thousand missiles in return’ and wasting the whole exercise of the Iraq war to give the neighbouring country to a friendly Shi’a regime.
I can see it now. Star of David Cameron leaning on the despatch box, to roaring cheers on all sides, declaring that the spiritual rectitude and lion-like fearlessness of the British nation, will not allow itself to be bull-dozed and blackmailed into unnecessary and illegal violence against a proud and civilised nation ( like Iran ). ‘ Think when I talk of horses, printing their proud hooves, ( and quantative easing ) and monarchs ( and other bigots ) to behold the swelling scene.’
Fuck me. ‘ I doubt if the Israelis were finding Fox anywhere near as co-operative as Blair etc.’ Does this Royal corgi bite or something? We have massacred 3 million and displaced 30 million in the last 15 years at the behest of the Zio-blackmailing bankers. What more do they want? British Blood?
In conclusion, there is nothing more misleading than the words of the best-informed of the UK great and good. It’s their job.
Lie, lie, lie again, until you convince them you’re not lying.
For clarity, the attack on Libya, UK 2 billion was the quid pro quo collateral for UK debt. We lend you the money if you destroy another Muslim country. Give me five.
Mark Golding: “An impressive piece Gordon Logan – I am somewhat breathless at your extraordinary insight. Are you connected with intelligence?”
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I’m pretty breathless myself. Either he’s privy to an extraordinary amount of “secret” information or he is simply making stuff up. It’s also overtly anti-Semitic for anyone who is bothered by such things. There sometimes seems to be a competition for who can pretend to have access to the most exotic and privileged information.
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It’s a little interesting that Mr Logan thinks that Litvinenko was killed by the British (at the behest of the Rothschilds, naturally) and that Litvinenko’s widow can go to the Russian embassy and learn how to blackmail the British government into getting hush money. Of course, if the Russian government had evidence with which to tell widows how to extort money wouldn’t they instead use it to clear their name? But instead the Russian government seems intent on going through the charade of having the suspect, Luguvoi elected to the Duma and giving him diplomatic immunity.
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It’s a bit hilarious that Mr Logan thinks Moshe Dagan calling a strike on Iran the most idiotic thing he’s ever heard was a direct response to having read something Mr Logan had written on the internet. That and his petition to have the Black Sea fleet sail to Libya and return Gadaffi to power are delusions of grandeur.
“Moshe Dagan” should be Meir Dagan, of course.
Mike Golding: In response, Press TV denied the interview was biased, saying Bahari did not “dispute the truth and accuracy” of the extract of the interview it broadcast, so it made “no logical sense” to claim it required his consent.
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Wasn’t this the interview during which Maziar Bahari was in custody and being tortured in an Iranian prison? Usually those are the types of interviews of the most biased kind.
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On top of that, as Komodo has said, the Iranian government which Press TV is the mouthpiece of, was blocking BBC broadcasts into Iran.
In a reference to tomorrow’s Independent
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‘They call it an exclusive, and the story may contain new revelations, but its worth pointing out that former UK ambassador Craig Murray connected the same dots earlier this week:
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The answer is that Werritty is paid by representatives of far right US and Israeli sources to influence the British defence secretary. It has been discussed within the MOD whether Werritty is being – knowingly or otherwise – run as an agent of influence by the CIA or Mossad. That is why the chiefs of the armed forces are so concerned, and why there is today much gagging at the stitch up within the Cabinet Office.
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The Guardian also reported that in February this year, Adam Werritty and Liam Fox flew to Israel for a conference on regional security, where the former arranged and attended a dinner at the conference with Fox and the UK’s ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould.
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This could potentially turn into a big diplomatic incident if it looks like Werrity had influence on British foreign policy.’
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http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/10/15/indy-fox-mate-werrity-plotted-with-mossad/
@ Gordon Logan,
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Fungibility is a nice racket, but The Colonel was a pliant soul whom carried out his chores to best of his abilities; Suppressed the Muslims, paid up the levies; in man (al Megrahi) and in funds ($2 billion damages), after all he never forgot, his arrival to Tripoli on board an American Tanker. Therefore, considering that fungibility as a means collateralization of the marauders sovereign debt, somehow overlooks the far too long a time scales involved.
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Whilst the urgency of the situation at hand, would be far better served through the sequestration of the $150 billion Libyan funds invested in the various countries with a view to stop the Colonel from using the funds to “kill his own people”. Further, the costs of the “expedition” underwritten by the Arab sheikhs, would be a further economic incentive for the much needed profits in the arms, and ancillary industry.
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Also in the bigger picture, the Mediterranean basin, becoming ever more exclusive lake of the NATO, with natural choke points easily controllable. The area would be effectively a no go zone for the naval assets of Rosskies, and Chinese. This line of thought is further reinforced by the current formation of National Transitional Council for Algiers manned by those ex-pats residing in the West, as well as the Syrian NTC having been formed in Istanbul too.
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Fact is the game is much more murky than the notion of just taking charge of the oil taps for Rothschild. Harking to American Century, and American New Century doctrines; to achieve total American domination, the resources ought to be denied to the competitors, in an effort to stop any potential and probable challenge to US domination of the planet. Furhter development of the Missile Defence Shield, effectively is a step in the direction of the US first strike capability that renders US immune from any potential retaliation.
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Nonetheless surprising factor is the inaction of the Chinese, and Russians, whom have been gradually getting encircled, without so much as trying to break out of the spiders web that is spun around these. As well as the evident rapid denial of resources that is becoming more aggressive by the day.
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Finally with respect to Mrs. Litvinenko, in the post Dr. Kelly era, would she not be wiser to remain put, as the rising numbers of road traffic accidents, and robberies, could easily claim yet another victim?
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PS. Vauxhall Cross had little choice in going after al Qaeda, the “Communist Menace” no longer existed, and in desperate need for a villain in the plot, the short straw was drawn by the Muslims. This of course was drawing upon the works of Toynbee et al, that deemed the next fisher to be exploited; the cultural and ethnic differences, which would serve the cause of perpetual state of . Alas the “Muslim Menace” only boasts “Improvised Explosive Devices”, hence the paucity in the field of development of next generation weapons, and the disappearance of the lucrative profits thereof, yet a further contributory factor to current financial mess, given that murder industry buffoons found employment in the finance houses.
I’ll not pretend to be disappointed Komodo; Press TV I believe gives a voice to the voiceless and I do not see it as a propaganda arm of the Iranian government. BBC News lost its balls after Andrew Gilligan, its world news coverage now has little connection with a diminishing audience. It maintains a certain credibility from its coverage of local concerns, sadly the picture it (the BBC) projects of the world stage is an illusion created by the smoke and mirrors of a corrupt and deceptive foreign policy allied to the bankers and their massive war machine.
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We learn today Radio 4 cannot even permit the word ‘Mossad’ to be transmitted on air in context with a serious concern amongst government and certainly MOD officials that collusion is rife. Have our memories faded or have we forgotten the stolen identities – keys to a Mossad assassination- Oh sorry I forgot, assassination is ‘de rigeur’ in the past and present corridors of power and where a strategic nuclear self-deception pushes the mind backwards into the dark ages of cryptic murder, self-incriminating torture, Aryanizing apartheid and confused genocide.
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Wake up to the 99% – those young minds trying to wrench apperception up a notch to a higher consciousness necessary for our continued survival in a depleted planet.
Mark,
I’m not asserting that the BBC is a paragon of free speech, either. But the parallels between PTV and the Soviet-era Radio Moscow are closer: it is operated by the Iranian government and, according to the 1979 Constitution of the Islamic Republic, “all broadcasting must exclusively be government-operated.”
As it is a satellite service, and the Iranian law forbids the use of satellite dishes to the public, I am not sure if the voice of the voiceless is actually reaching some of the voiceless.
Though, I happily admit, any outlet sympathetic to the victims of Israeli atrocities is to be welcomed, I would not use it as a primary source of uncoloured information. Is all I’m saying.
Woaw, I cant believe The Independant on Sunday is going to have on the front page –
“WERRITY PLOTTED WITH MOSSAD TO TARGET IRAN”
And a Jarvis Cocker feature too -nice
hmmm.. That was a weirdie link back there that 2 particular politicians are sex monsters of a particular religion.. i like to keep an open mind but i boaked that up again.
Angrysoba, thanks for highlighting the torture of Maziar Bahari in Iranian custody.
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Mark Golding, check the Wikipedia page on Maziar Bahari. He seems genuine, and it seems highly likely that he was in fact tortured.
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Broadcasting “confessions” extracted under torture goes beyond propaganda and bias, and there is obviously a good argument that such a TV station should be blocked. Conversely, had PressTV been blocked at that time, this insight into Iranian abuse would not have occurred.