UPDATE: False Flag is Starting 226

I warned that the security services will turn to false flag events to discredit the SNP. I said this in my talk to Edinburgh SNP Club on 6 March, and repeated it on this blog last week. Well, it is starting.


The reporting specifically blames nationalists. There is something delightfully old fashioned about MI5. Is spraying Q for Quisling not rather an obscure reference to today’s generation?

[UPDATE: I had not taken on board that the racist comments made allegedly by an unidentified SNP supporter to Faisal Islam of Sky News occurred in the same town on the same day. That indicates to me a coordinated security service plan was in progress, and gives some idea how they are operating, probably in a mobile team. That two such improbable and unusual “nationalist outrages” should occur the same day and the same place confounds belief.]

A sweeping SNP victory on May 7 is considered enough of a threat to the United Kingdom for the security services to use up some assets. Long term sleepers within the SNP will now be activated, so expect to find one or two such events traced to apparent bona fide SNP members.

More importantly, a major thrust will be agent provocateur activity. Security service agents within the SNP will be trying to initiate and to egg on (yes, that is a deliberate and relevant Jim Murphy reference, think about it) impressionable members to vandalism or violence. Be very, very wary of such people and do not be tempted.

There are, 100% for certain, MI5 agents online posing as “cybernats” who will be quoted in the media saying outlandishly unpleasant and threatening things. We will also see more incidents like the Murphy eggs or the complete set-up of the “mob” jostling Miliband in the St James Centre, which by chance I witnessed.

The ridiculous “violent nationalist” meme worked well for the unionists in the referendum campaign, and influenced some older voters who trust the BBC and corporate media. So they will play it again for all it is worth. The worry is of course that some manufactured incident will go wrong and somebody will get hurt. The still bigger worry is that, as the security services get increasingly desperate as polling day approaches, they will manufacture a false flag incident in which people deliberately get hurt.

The best defence against that is for ordinary people to be wise to how the real world works. Social media is key. Tweet, facebook, blog, instagram or whatever else you can do to spread this.

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226 thoughts on “UPDATE: False Flag is Starting

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  • Mark Golding

    Iain – or a ‘lipstick bomb’ – sadly the truth is in plain sight. A voluminous number of cocktails were put away in celebration after Scottish independence was interfered with by fraud.

    I say this to SIS MI5:

    “Gaun jus’ bugger aff wid ye”! or get an eyeful when lid blows off!

  • RobG

    “The still bigger worry is that, as the security services get increasingly desperate as polling day approaches, they will manufacture a false flag incident in which people deliberately get hurt.”

    What’s not widely understood is the role of America in all this, since those ‘pesky socialists’ in Scotland are a direct threat to the American empire, and British security services have become almost a part of those in the USA. American citizens are now living in a police state, and the people who rule this state are completely unaccountable and completely out of control.

    This bill was passed by Congress last December, and it was almost completely unreported by the media, mainstream or alternative:


    The ‘Intelligence Authorization Act 2015’ gives the security services unlimited access to the communications of every American, without needing permission from a judge. Do you want me to repeat that..?

    GCHQ, et al, are completely in the pocket of these rogue forces in the USA, and of course the British government is completely corrupt, beyond redemption.

    Scotland the brave.

    You’re going to have to be, folks, for all our sakes.

  • John

    This blog is hilarious. Like all conspiracists, just ignore the blindingly obvious (and most probably true) causes, and dream up something crazy to fit your world view.

  • John

    … but there is a comic side of course – there’s a delicious irony in nationalists ranting moronically about ‘dark forces” attempts to portray nationalists as morons. Hang on… That’s it! Maybe Craig Murray is a CIA/MI5/Mossad/FSB plant, eh? Now there’s a thought…

  • Republicofscotland

    When you think about it, the leaked memo originated at the Scotland Office Alistair Carmichael admitted as much,in my opinion the Scotland Office is spying on the Scottish government for Whitehall.

    If MI5 can,use such a lofty office for espionage then,field personnel could easily smear the SNP through acts of violence.

    The mere thought of 50 odds SNP MP’s at Westminster, must frighten the bejesus out of the establishment hierarchy.

    Now what could be their modus operandi be,a terrorist attack perhaps,in which the hero,of the hour is the UK in some fashion,thus the populus,regains their feelings of Britishness,and shuns the SNP.

    There’s just one problem with this plan,cities like Glasgow,Dundee and Inverness,in which the majority voted yes,are far to politically alert now to Westminster’s dirty tricks campaign,having just experienced two years of it.

  • Republicofscotland

    but there is a comic side of course – there’s a delicious irony in nationalists ranting moronically about ‘dark forces” attempts to portray nationalists as morons. Hang on… That’s it! Maybe Craig Murray is a CIA/MI5/Mossad/FSB plant, eh? Now there’s a thought…

    MI5 have form,you’re,attempt to make light of the subject,fools no one.


  • Republicofscotland

    It has crossed my mind Craig that,the men in trenchcoats,will up their game in trying to discredit you,as some sort of conspiracy nut,but you’ve seen it all before.

    You’re trying to enlighten,some on here,as to how the system operates,some though,will never grasp the full extent the establishment will go to to protect,it’s old order.

  • Stuart

    Well now Mr Murray, you really have entered tinfoil hat territory.

    After all to become an ambassador, you personally will have undergone enhanced security vetting by MI5.

    Does that now make you a ‘sleeper’ agent within the ranks of the independence movement?

    Yes I know you will deny it, but that is a logical inference that could be deduced from your own past.

    How are we to know otherwise?

    Perhaps you too are running your own ‘False flag’ operation, aimed at getting influence within the movement.

    See where this kind of thinking leads Mr Murray?

    I’d suggest that you get some professional help for your paranoid thoughts.

    As next you’ll be telling us to beware of book depositories, and grassy knolls….

  • Smirnoff

    I have another idea. Could the perpetrators perhaps be the Russian secret services attempting to discredit MI5 and the Westminster establishment? This could have the effect of tipping the election in the favour of the SNP. A second referendum would be the result, establishing a weaker UK possibly without trident. Plausible.

  • Gordon Herd

    You sir are a crackpot, you have provided no proof to back up your claims. You are a liar and a complete fucking moron

  • Republicofscotland

    Buzzfeed…pfft What do you expect from an ex-Guardian political reporter.

    Stick with it Craig.

  • Resident Dissident

    Before anyone gets too carries away perhaps they should search the local Aberdeen press first and they will find that there has been a spate of graffiti in Aberdeen in recent times – the Q is probably just the tag of the person responsible.

  • Mary

    Reminding those who deny that dirty tricks happen….

    Not many days ago, Craig wrote about Willie McRae’s apparent murder.

    Suggest googling ‘dirty tricks Scotland’ and see what comes up.

  • cynicalHighlander

    This reeks more like the Murphy(Mob) Team one of who got kicked out of Australia for his dirty smearing tactics rather than MI5 as they have the BBC for that.

  • Mary

    The same aggressive comments that are appearing here are also to be seen on Faisal Islam’s Twitter page.

  • craig Post author

    Gordon Herd

    “You sir are a crackpot, you have provided no proof to back up your claims. You are a liar and a complete fucking moron”

    Strangely, that is exactly what they said in 2004 when I blew the whistle on torture and extraordinary rendition. Remind me, how did that one end?

  • Republicofscotland

    You sir are a crackpot, you have provided no proof to back up your claims. You are a liar and a complete fucking moron

    Your pathetic comments has just reminded me of,a catchy wee ditty,of my youth.


    Its appears to be,befitting.

  • Ed L

    I’m simply not as gullible as you evidently are.

    I expect “Q” is the handle of some local tagger who sprayed something semi-literate when the chance presented itself.

    In thd absence of a sustained campaign in several locations any grand conspiracy is preposterous.

  • Hollie greig justice


    First Minister in missing records riddle over Hollie Greig abuse allegations

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    The Scottish Government is refusing to disclose whether it has lost or destroyed communications records relating to the Hollie Greig case which may indicate when the First Minister Alex Salmond became aware of allegations of sexual abuse, which Ms Greig claims was carried out against her over many years whilst resident in the Aberdeen area.

    Last month the Scottish Ministers were compelled by the Information Commissioner to address a series of questions put to the First Minister in correspondence in relation to the case in January this year, the first of which was: “When did you first become aware of the allegations made by Hollie Greig about her being abused by members of a high-ranking paedophile ring in Scotland?”

    The commissioner required the Scottish Ministers to respond by today’s date or risk being held in contempt of court.

    It was reported in April 2009 that Greig received a payout of £13,500 from the criminal injuries compensation authority, and was described by Detective Inspector Iain Allen of Grampian Police as “a truthful witness to the best of her ability and an entirely innocent victim.”

    Two Grampian Police Officers interviewed Greig in September 2009. No charges have been brought against anyone in connection with sexual abuse.

    The Scottish Ministers’ response to the question, issued by the First Minister’s Private Secretary Terry Kowal stated: “Following a search of our paper and electronic records, I have established we do not have a record of when the First Minister became aware of these allegations. Therefore, the information you require is not held by the Scottish Government.”

    However, The Firm has seen correspondence from the Crown Office dated 23 July 2009 addressed to the Greig family’s lay representative Robert Green, which suggests that correspondence addressed to the First Minister outlining the allegations was received over two years ago.

    “Thank you for your email of 20 June 2009 to the First Minister in which you raise concerns about the handling of the case involving allegations of abuse perpetrated against Hollie Greig,” the letter says.

    The letter then says that Green’s inquiry was passed to the Crown Office for response, given the nature of the subject matter.

    When pressed by The Firm to explain the apparent contradiction between the two positions, the First Minister’s office told The Firm today only that “we do not have a record of when the First Minister first became aware of these allegations”.

    The First Minister’s office have acknowledged receipt of The Firm’s subsequent query asking whether the records had been destroyed, but have offered no direct response, despite repeated requests.

    Russell Fallis of the Scottish Government communications team issued a statement to The Firm that said the First Minister’s office “receives a large volume of correspondence on a wide range of subjects, which is answered by that office or by relevant officials” , and added that the Government does not have “any indication that this information was recorded.”

    Pressed to confirm whether the correspondence was destroyed or lost, the First Minister’s office has provided no response.

    The correspondence questioning the First Minister was sent on 28 January and had received no response, despite a series of reminder letters. The Information Commissioner later ruled that the Scottish Ministers had failed to comply with their obligations under Sections 10(1) and 21(1) of the Freedom of Information Act.

    This afternoon the Information Commissioner confirmed he is now considering whether “further action is required” against the Scottish Government in respect of their handling of the original correspondence containing the six queries.

    In May, Andrew George MP wrote to Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland asking him to outline the options available to “those many people who remain concerned” about the “unsafe” investigations into the Hollie Greig case.

    “There appears to be a lot of evidence and allegations which point in one direction and indicates that this whole case deserves a through review,” George wrote in constituency correspondence.

    He adds that “many of the professionals with whom she came into contact…have allegedly failed in their duties or even covered up important facts.”

    George was the second Westminster MP to raise concerns about the case, following David Ruffely MP’s intervention earlier this year.

  • Clark

    The UK state would never use secret agents to cover up paedophilia by senior politicians. No! Never! They’d never lose or destroy the dossier about such matters, or murder Willie McRae because he had such evidence. Tinfoil hat! Er…

    I think I can see why Scotland might want independence.

  • Anon1

    Ok, so we’ve heard that it could have been a Scots Nat. We’ve heard that it could have been MI5 trying to implicate the Scots Nats. But I have an alternative theory. Could it be that it was a genuine Scots Nat trying to make it look as though MI5 are attempting to implicate Scots Nats, thereby smearing MI5? And let’s not discount hologram theory quite yet. How do we know it actually exists?

  • Republicofscotland

    During the 1984-5 miners’ strike so much phone-tapping was going on that the Cabinet Secretary, Sir Robert Armstrong, took immediate steps to ensure that no mention was ever made of its extent.

    Margaret Thatcher’s success in hushing up the bugging of phones by the Security Service MI5 is finally revealed in her 1985 cabinet papers released by the National Archives.

    More MI5 shenanigans.


    The poor miners never stood a chance.

  • Royston Jones

    We’ve had some odd happenings in Wales too, Ceredigion (Cardiganshire) to be exact.

    Mike Parker, the Plaid Cymru candidate, moved to Wales some 20 years ago and was appalled by some of the things he was told by other English people who assumed he shared their attitudes towards the Welsh. He wrote a book, Neighbours from Hell in which he correctly pointed out that many of the English moving to Wales were of the White Flight variety, for whom we Welsh were just another ethnic minority.

    This week the local rag, the Cambrian News (or someone), discovered what Parker had written 14 years ago, dredged it up, and spiced it up. Now he was calling all English people ‘Nazis’. It should come as no surprise to learn that Plaid Cymru has a very good chance of unseating the incumbent Lib Dem MP.

    The whole thing took a bizarre twist when, a few days later, someone revealed that during the 2006 World Cup, the Ceredigion Labour candidate, Huw Thomas, had advocated pouring Tippex(!) on cars flying the England flag. He was commended by senior Labour figures for apologising so readily for his indiscretion – as if he had a choice!

    This post explains it quite well: http://cneifiwr-emlyn.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/mike-parker-bnp-chavs-and-bottles-of.html

    Finally, I share your suspicions of MI5, but I would also remind you and your readers that for internet trolling and similar activities the British army has its own unit in the 77th Brigade, aka the Facebook Warriors: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade

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