Werritty’s Chum Matthew Gould Took Janner to Kindergarten 70


Adam Werritty’s friend and long term contact, the British Ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould, accompanied Greville Janner to visit a kindergarten in Israel in 2012, which was named in Janner’s honour. I wonder if the government of Israel will now change the name?

The irony of naming a kindergarten after Janner is extraordinary. But is it not strange that in 2012, when Janner’s activities had been known to the authorities for decades, Matthew Gould was accompanying him to a kindergarten of all places? Is the Foreign Office really that dense? It is also not normal for an Ambassador to accompany an opposition Lord around in this way.

I could not help but be struck by the link below the last linked piece, to an article by Greville Janner entitled “My Friend Michael Jackson“.


70 thoughts on “Werritty’s Chum Matthew Gould Took Janner to Kindergarten

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  • Ba'al Zevul

    Janner was appointed to the House of Lords Consolidation Bills etc Committee on 12th June 2014.

  • Mary

    Greville Janner: Keith Vaz was among MPs who defended Labour peer against child sex abuse allegations

    CPS admits Lord Janner should have been prosecuted over string of ‘extremely serious’ claims as police explore possible legal challenge and Labour suspend him

    16 Apr 2015

    Keith Vaz, the senior Labour politician, was one of 16 MPs who publicly defended Greville Janner against child sex abuse allegations at a time when prosecutors now admit the peer should have faced trial.

    Mr Vaz, who has chaired the Commons home affairs committee for the past eight years, said Lord Janner had been the victim of a “wicked attack” in 1991, when the allegations first surfaced, and campaigned for a change in the law to prevent any repeat.

    /..
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11543642/Lord-Greville-Janner-will-not-face-sex-abuse-trial-over-severe-dementia.html

  • Ba'al Zevul

    At least they got Ernest Saunder’s to some sort of justice before he pulled the ‘ the temporary dementia ‘ trick . Looks like Janner pulled this trick out of the bag rapidly when the investigations got serious .

    That’s borne out by Hansard. Apparently Janner developed Alzheimer’s in 2009, but his contributions in the Lords were frequent – sometimes several in a week – until the end of 2012. After that, one recorded speech.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=12963&pop=1#n4

    As noted above, he was appointed to a Lords committee in June 2014. There is something rather disturbing about the notion that parliament is being run by terminally demented people, true as it often appears to be…however, he went on indefinite leave in October.

    Another intriguing snippet, from obnoxious ‘food critic’ – yes, that’s a job – Jay Rayner:

    https://twitter.com/jayrayner1

    Allegedly, he investigated Janner when younger, and then had to drop it…

  • Mary

    ‘Lord Janner of Braunstone

    Greville Ewan Janner, Esquire, QC, (commonly called the Honourable Greville Ewan Janner), having been created Baron Janner of Braunstone, of Leicester in the County of Leicestershire, for life–Was, in his robes, introduced between the Lord Morris of Kenwood and the Lord Merlyn-Rees.’
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199798/ldhansrd/vo971030/text/71030-01.htm#71030-01_head0

    Last night however hard I tried to Google ‘Janner maiden speech House of Lords 1997’ Google kept changing Janner to Jenner. Call it predictive text at work. No way.

    Lord Morris of Kenwood was a relative of Janner’s by marriage.
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/peerage-news/_dobnRWZ9mo

  • Mary

    I just asked for ‘Janner Geller Jackson’ on images and was asked ‘Did you mean Janet’!!! Then did you mean ‘Janna’.

    There are a few of him with Her Maj and a nice one of him with Cherie once you succeed in reaching the page.

  • Mary

    In 2008/9 Keir Starmer’s salary as DPP was in the range of £195-£200,000 plus pension plus a chauffeured car.
    http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/reports/2009/departmental_remuneration_report.html

    The salary seven years later must be much higher.

    His predecessor as DPP, friend of the BLiars and co-founder of Matrix Chambers with Cherie, occupied some of his time thus, allegedly!

    WIFE’S TEARS AS DPP REFUSES TO DENY AFFAIR CLAIM
    14 February 2007
    EXHAUSTED and tearful, the wife of Director of Public Prosecutions Ken Macdonald emerged from their home yesterday following claims of her husband’s affair.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wifes-tears-as-dpp-refuses-to-deny-452080

  • Monteverdi

    I would take a guess that Lord Janner will take up Israeli citizenship where with excellent Israeli medical treatment the noble Lord will make an amazing recovery . Meanwhile his ‘ estate ‘ may have already left the country to be deposited elsewhere .

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “The DPP’s timing for yesterday’s announcement was well timed. No House of Commons sitting. ”
    ____________________

    Yes, Mary, I said that two days ago.

    Do try to be original or if you cannot, please acknowledge your sources.

    Thank you.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary has found new people to bitch on about – ie, the Directors of Public Prosecutions.

    She is presumably annoyed with them for taking no action over the years on Lord Janner.

    Fair enough.

    But what is the point of gleefully posting about a married former DPP’s alleged affair with another woman? :

    “WIFE’S TEARS AS DPP REFUSES TO DENY AFFAIR CLAIM
    14 February 2007
    EXHAUSTED and tearful, the wife of Director of Public Prosecutions Ken Macdonald emerged from their home yesterday following claims of her husband’s affair.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wifes-tears-as-dpp-refuses-to-deny-452080

    That is not political, Mary – it is just dirty of you.

    You really do have a vulgar, dirty mind, don’t you.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Notice I should have referred to the 7/7 bombings in London which killed 52 people and injured about 700.

    They were particularly caused by Gould and other spooks trying to catch more suspects in Operation Crevice – which made others connected to that IT shop in Crawley into the suicide bombers.

    Gould, working for MI5, even tried to make others culprits after the disasters, by trying to persuade them to flee.

    Gould is a much more destructive bastard than any pedophile, and he can still be tried for his crimes.

  • lysias

    Independent article today: Greville Janner: How MPs rallied to defence of Labour peer ‘unfairly put through hell by a wicked slur’:

    He was still an active peer for several years after his Alzheimer’s was first diagnosed in 2009. He made his last speech – fittingly on Israel and Palestine – in February 2013. The register shows that he was a regular attender in the Lords until the end of December 2013.

    February 2013 was very soon after one of the Israeli attacks on Gaza, Operation Pillar of Defense, in November 2012. I suspect Janner’s last speech had to do with that.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Mary
    17/04/2015 1:33pm

    Your article link on Sir Clive Loader:

    “[Sir Clive Loader]said there was no dispute that Lord Janner was not in a fit state to act in his own defence, but that another mechanism – a hearing of facts – could be held.”

    Really interested in that – I had not heard about it before – so I went looking for more information on it.

    https://mentalhealthcop.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/unfitness-to-plead/

    “So what happens if someone is ruled unfit to plead or stand trial? The amended Criminal Procedure (Insanity) Act provides, in section 4A, for a “trial of the facts”. In other words, the court will adduce whether or not the defendant “did the act or made the omission charged”, irrespective of mental insight or disorder.

    So for example, in the case of a defendant being charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent, contrary to s18 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861, a court normally occupying itself with whether or not a particular defendant caused a serious injury, by whatever means AND that they intended to cause that serious injury.

    Following a ruling of unfitness to plead, they would be interested in establish whether or not the person (did the act or omission” by throwing a punch or using a weapon to cause the injury. The extra “mental” element of the mens rea – whether or not they intended to cause serious injury – would not come into question because of the “unfitness” arising from a disability. In such a case, it would then be available to the Court to make an order for the defendant’s admission to hospital (see Schedule 1 of the 1964 Act) or for their supervision and treatment (see Schedule 2). In respect of Schedule 1 orders, these are, in effect, restricted hospital orders, as if made under s37/41 MHA.

    Obviously, if it is not proved that the defendant “did the act or made the omission charged”, then they would be released from the custody of the court, although I have known cases where this is almost immediately followed by a Mental Health Act assessment by an AMHP and two DRs for admission to hospital under s2 or s3. Indeed, it is sometimes the case that s2 or s3 has been applied before the hearing, in case of that outcome.”

    What is interesting about this analysis is that it says that the “mens rea” (guilty mind) element of a trial is omitted. That would presumably only apply if the disorder of the mind sufficient to find a person unfit to plead was also present during the commission of the criminal act or acts. It does not say what the court would have to find if (as, presumably, in Lord Greville Janner’s case, if found to have committed the acts alleged) the perpetrator had a guilty mind at the time of the acts but no longer has it at the time of the trial.

    Possibly Sir Clive Loader is mistaken, and a trial of the facts (if that is what he’s talking about) can only take place if a guilty mind did not accompany the act at the time the act was committed. I don’t know – it would be interesting to know.

    Kind regards,

    John

  • lysias

    Lord Janner child abuse allegations were not passed to me, former DPP says: Lord Macdonald QC criticises local CPS officials for dropping pursuit of charges without consulting headquarters, helping Labour peer escape prosecution:

    Inquiries continued as Ed Miliband spoke for the first time about his shock at the allegations against the MP for Leicester West, who was elevated to the Lords under Tony Blair’s government. Miliband called for victims to give evidence to an independent inquiry set up by the DPP.

    . . .

    Peter Garsden, the president of the Association of Child Abuse Lawyers and a partner at the firm Quality Solicitors Abney Garsden, which represents the alleged victim, said the allegations were of “the most extreme abuse”.

    The man’s civil claim was now “full steam ahead” following the abrupt end of the criminal investigation on Thursday, Garsden said. “This is the only way the alleged victims in this case are going to get some sort of justice.”

    Liz Dux, of the law firm Slater & Gordon, which represents 168 victims of Jimmy Savile and 10 of the former Rochdale MP Cyril Smith, said Janner could now be liable to pay sizeable compensation sums to his alleged victims. Civil redress was their logical next step, she said.

    The men who made complaints of abuse at the hands of Janner have been supported throughout the police investigation by specialist charities. One of the those involved, First Step in Leicester, offers free and confidential face-to-face counselling sessions for male victims of abuse.

    Cas, from First Step said: “Our main concern now is making sure we continue to be here for people for the foreseeable future and that we continue to support them and other people who come forward.”

    Janner was suspended from the Labour party on Thursday, but will remain a peer.

    Could he have been suspended from the Labour Party if that party’s leaders were not convinced of his guilt?

    In any case, it looks as if alternative methods of seeking redress are being pursued.

  • Mary

    >1.44pm

    Not vulgar or dirty, so unlike others here (does the cap fit Troll?), but astute enough to expose the hypocrisy of those set in place to run this dirty rotten system which is laughingly called ‘justice’.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    Certainly vulgar and dirty, to which I would add “cheap”.

    You take a malicious delight in pointing to people’s private misfortunes, whether marital (Ken MacDonald) or medical (“Whispering” Nick Robinson).

    But the most innocuous reference to your personal affairs – eg, that you live in leafy Surrey – gets you very hot and bothered.

    With a little help from me, Mary, people are beginning to see through you slowly but surely. Time to retire!

  • Mary

    I keep telling this persistent troll that Surrey (with which he seems to be obsessed) is not all ‘leafy’ implying ‘wealthy’ in his mind I assume. That is some strange stretch of his imagination. Does he himself live in a leafy or a leafless place? How stupid can he get.

    PS Check out the need for the growing number of food banks in Surrey and every place where the ‘ConDems’ currently hold sway.

  • Laguerre

    I thought the reason Janner could not be allowed to go before the court is that he was very highly placed in Jewish politics as Chairman of the Board of Deputies of British Jews. He must have been privy to a great many secrets about Israel, and he might have spilled the beans about something nasty. No doubt not difficult to do, if you’ve got a little Alzheimer’s. Funny how you can pervert the course of justice, if Israel is in question.

  • Mary

    Janner’s directorships. He has just resigned from the last one listed.

    http://companycheck.co.uk/director/900681414

    In the 90s, he was a director of JSB Group Ltd, one of whose companies is
    http://www.jsbjudicial.com/index.php

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  • lysias

    Interesting comment below the FT article on this case:

    Copito 10 hours ago
    This is what we do in the UK – when the interests of the establishment are involved (as with Bloody Sunday and Hillsborough) we kick the can down the road, time and time again, until everyone involved is either too old to prosecute or they’re dead.

    So the CPS (Can’t Prosecute Sod-all) had both the evidence and the opportunity to prosecute Janner time and time again but, just as with the Lawrence case, the police and authorities closed ranks to protect one of their own – and we’re now supposed to believe that this was just individual incompetence and a series of institutional errors?

    I ask you to imagine if such a series of convenient errors would have been made if Janner were a working-class man of Pakistani origin – the question answers itself really, doesn’t it? And, as the real kicker, the CPS focus on public interest is all about doing the ‘right thing’ by Janner, not about the victims, who are presumably irrelevant to the CPS.

    Why is it not in the public interest to know who was abused and, more importantly, how they came to be abused through the systems of power that were supposed to protect them? Does the CPS not realize that in using the public interest excuse in this way it helps to cover up other institutional mechanisms of child abuse in failing to drag this one into the light of day?

    Ah, but perhaps that’s the whole point…

  • lysias

    With a little help from me, Mary, people are beginning to see through you slowly but surely. Time to retire!

    More trollish behavior trying to drive people from this forum.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    I would like to repost a comment from one “Muhammad” who commented on Craig’s first (I think) posting about Janner, “Hysteria versus Impunity” 14/07/2014.

    If Muhammad is still reading, I hope he does not mind if I repost.

    I was very struck by this posting at the time. I can’t remember if I knew before or afterwards, but a very similar story has emerged about Cyril Smith (competition winner, rewarded by a trip to the House of Commons, abuse takes place actually within the House of Commons itself). It is remarkably specific, and I wonder if we will now hear this story from the people immediately involved (assuming that it has a basis in fact).

    One thing about recent reporting about Janner is that there is not much about him associating with others. I am wondering if he was part of any kind of “ring” (which also would perhaps explain the CPS’s reluctance to prosecute, for fear of what he might say), or if he was a lone predator.

    Kind regards,

    John

    ——————————–

    REPOSTED

    “Muhammad
    14/07/2014 7:16 pm

    About 14 years ago I met a couple who explained they were parents of a young boy (if I remember rightly about 10-12 years old at the time) that had ‘won’ a competition to visit the Houses of Parliament, promoted by Janner. The boy was shipped off by his parents on a train from Leicester, then Janner’s ‘seat’, to London where he was met by the pervert himself. On returning home the boy complained of being raped by Janner whilst being shown around the actual houses. The parents approached the Leicester police to lodge a formal complaint and the police refued to accept the complaint. The parents approached the social services, various child abuse/care lines and also lobbied politicians to try an get justice for their son. When all of those avenues failed they personally printed 40,000 leaflets detailing the crime and the failure of the local police to take action, also asking their neighbours to write to the chief of police supporting them and demanding action. I met the parents some time after this campaign, where the police still refused to take action, and they gave me a copy of their leaflet. I then took a copy of the leaflet to the Labour party HQ and engaged them in dialogue, explaining they had enough evidence to destroy a leading conservative peer. As history demonstrates the Labour party did nothing with the document or the evidence.”

    ——————————–

  • lysias

    When American journalist Leah McGrath Goodman was investigating the orphanage on Jersey, she was expelled from the island, and then, when she tried to go to England and landed at Heathrow, she was held for hours underground at the airport, and then not allowed into the UK. At one point, she was told that her investigations of pedophilia threatened the security of the British state. http://www.vice.com/read/the-journalist-who-was-banned-from-investigating-jerseys-child-abuse

  • lysias

    I wonder if a member of the Cayman Islands Bar would have much business in that other tax haven, Jersey.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    More wondering! The man spends most of his time wondering about UK affairs it would seem. 🙂

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