Tel Aviv Pins Hopes on Clinton 180

There has never been such a fascinating US Presidential race, both I a good way and in a bad way. I would never have believed somebody as genuine and bright as Bernie Sanders could get this close to becoming President. I would never have believed something as florid and off the wall as Donald Trump could become this close to becoming President.

One of the things that makes both Trump and Sanders so entirely different from the mainstream US political class is that neither of them genuflects to Tel Aviv and both of them take the idea that Palestinians have rights too. In fact the only chance of Israeli dominance of US foreign policy appears to rest with Hillary Clinton. She may be Goldman Sachs’ dog in this fight, but she is also Tel Aviv’s.

Unfortunately, despite continuing wins and trouncing Clinton in debate, it seems most unlikely Sanders will get the nomination. Clinton control of party machinery and firm position with those who have made an extremely fat living for themselves personally out of identity politics (sorry heroes of the civil rights movement), should ensure that. Can I commend you to read The Catholic Orangemen of Togo to see how just one ride in a car with Jesse Jackson put me right off him.

It is extraordinary that, with Trump riding a wave of anti-Establishment populism that is undoubtedly a global political phenomenon, the establishment should choose to put up against him the most corrupt, compromised and untrustworthy figure available (except for Henry Kissinger. But don’t worry, he is in there advising her). Hillary is the unacceptable face of unacceptable faces. Her insincerity shines through every word, every gesture, every breath.

With Trump we are left with the hope that he does not actually mean what he says; that his right wing populism and blustering persona is just a brilliant act to get elected. With Hillary we have the stone cold certainty that she does not mean a word she says, that she is triangulating to the left to counter Bernie, and that she has no interest at all except furthering the interests of banks and big corporations.

If I were absolutely forced, under pain of death, to have dinner with either Trump or Clinton, I would choose Trump. Wouldn’t you? Presuming suicide is not an option?

180 thoughts on “Tel Aviv Pins Hopes on Clinton

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  • Republicofscotland

    So according to the BBC’s Worldservice news, there are no over one million people in Britain on Zero hour contracts, to the delight of big business.

    The report continued with, the average salary is around £24,000 pounds in Britain, but those on Zero hour contracts take home considerably less than that.

  • Republicofscotland

    Moving on to refugees, the UN appears to be dismayed (a first) that a cunning plan has arose to pay Turkey to keep all the refugees fleeing to Europe. The UN now claim Turkey doesn’t treat the refugees very well, and a mass influx of refugees into Turkey would see the majority of them suffer.

    Pass the buck seems to be the name of the game, as EU countries harden towards refugees.

    Meanwhile David Cameron seems to be reasonably pleased that the Jungle, at Calais has been demolished, and the prospect of accepting a fair amount of refugees dissipates.

  • fedup

    The report continued with, the average salary is around £24,000 pounds in Britain, but those on Zero hour contracts take home considerably less than that.

    The bunkum bullshitter corporation is only narrating the propaganda of the government, £24000 average, is an average that is very hard to find north of the Watford gap, with people paying the agencies for placing them in zero hour contracts!

    Yes you read correctly, the workers are paying the agencies that find them these “job” with no sickness pay or holiday pay or pension, but funnily enough this the kicker the said workers are made to contribute into pension payments so get this; no holiday pay, ie no time off or go hungry. No sickness payment ie you fall ill you don’t eat. No pension, ie when you no longer can haul your butt and can hardly control your bladder you won’t get anything other than the “state pension” (that is if there is any such expenses have not been stopped in the austerity rush) but you are made to pay into the pension schemes!!!

    When will the opposite number of alan b’stard in real life will deliver a speech urging the prime minister to bring back slavery and mandatory life in workhouses for the slaves?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I have no idea who uphill is, but I seriously liked some of the things that uphill wrote. I think uphill feels much the same as me…You know that Political Compass chart…

    I think we are both there well down to the left…

    Yes, I know he was Very Impolite…but I reckon he just had a moment of realisation – and thought Craig Murray and The Moderators were rather Authoritarian…

    But you guys weren’t authoritarian at left his comments standing…you left his emotional attack on you there standing..You didn’t delete it, edit it or anything.

    Craig even discussed them..more or less saying ..well if you don’t like it..then start your own blog….

    After I said – uphill – well you were a bit impolite…

    He then demanded you delete everything he wrote on your blog….

    Oh go – on – Encourage Him to Post Again

    He doesn’t have to say Sorry..but it might help

    I reckon none of us are evil..we just sometimes disagree…

    If you want a real 3:00 am when I woke up..rather distressed this morning (and I almost never have nightmares (yeh hangovers on Mondays) but I was completely sober)

    Read the final chapters of this before you go to sleep as I did….

    Talk about heavy…written in 1940 in France..(I haven’t finished it yet)

    “Scum of the Earth” Paperback – by Arthur Koestler

    “A brand new edition of Arthur Koestler’s gripping tale of arrest, imprisonment, and subsequent escape to London from Nazi-occupied France. Arthur Koestler is now an essential part of the English literary landscape both as political activist, controversialist and the author of Darkness at Noon. He stands beside George Orwell as one of the key writers of the twentieth century who embraced communism but would later turn against the “party”and denounce the tragic distortions and abuses that had betrayed the great vision.”

    he was writing it live..and he was so frightened…and obviously so in love…and he didn’t know what would happen next…even if he escaped to England….that he never wrote his English Girlfriend’s name


    awesome book


  • RobG

    By the way, there have been major protests here in France today, mostly by students. None of it is being properly reported in the USUK media (in case it gives the plebs any ideas). The only English language reports I can find come from the likes of France 24…

    France 24 are very skewed, much like the BBC and CNN.

    The French language media are equally as bad.

    And you think you live in a ‘democracy’?

  • giyane

    Craig, how come you refuse to campaign on the same side as Cameron.but are prepared to dine with Trump. If ever there was a subject worthy of boycott it’s the US Presidential elections.

    As I understand it, until Russia started bombing Al Qaida, Obama had no control whatsoever over his neo-cons who are running them. Nor does he have any control over his budget.

    If by triangulation you mean swivel-eyed, the ability, like an iguana to look independently in different directions at the same time, yes I agree with you Clinton and the neo-cons like Nuland, Petraus and McCain are extremely unhinged swivels.

    Normally triangulation means the ability to precisely pinpoint. A description better suited to Putin, Lavrov and Kerry.

    As for Israel, how many million times can we rehearse the fact that they tend the wounded Daesh in Tel Aviv, where they can brainwash them with brain-washing drugs, without Davotoglu, Clinton or Philip Hammonds ‘s good names getting besmirched?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I have been trying to work out if it is financially, and emotionally sensible to buy this

    You see my lad has a rather a lot of heavy hardware – in our spare bedroom…

    And His Grandma is coming down soon…to see his yet unborn kid…

    The Roadtax seems cheap too…

    what do reckon…should I bid…

    We could get all his junk in there…and if we can’t stand the Baby Crying his Girlfriend and Kid Too


  • Tony_0pmoc

    I do know someone who is doing this…

    Cut out a bit of the metal on the sides of the Transit…replace them with Windows for light…Totally rip out the interior…and replace it with the extremely well documented contents…cost a few hundred quid….+ hippy spray paint job…

    and you have got a full blown Street Legal Hippy Camper Van…

    Worth considerably more – and you can live in it too.

    But We Prefer Our Tents (inc Wigwams)


  • Tony_0pmoc

    Well it seems we haven’t been flooded by immigrants yet…that van went for £960….and I still think my mate Toby (Ex-Jungle) Is a Total Hero…what a nice guy.

    I don’t know if he has done an Interview Yet.


  • Njegos

    Hillary Clinton learned NOTHING from the catastrophic war in Iraq. Her only achievement was to change the rhetoric of intervention – we went into Libya for “humanitarian” reasons and just look how that turned out. Jihad is spreading all over North Africa and the Sahel.

    And then she dares to flaunt her “foreign policy experience”.

    Trump is obnoxious but he understands and even says that Iraq and Libya were disasters. He is the closest thing the US has to a nationalist as opposed to the unhinged warmongering internationalists who have been calling the shots for the last decade or so. I agree with Craig. Frankly, I just can’t see how Trump would be more dangerous than Hillary.

    Two very positive developments:

    1) Less than half the voters in Michigan were hoodwinked by the corrupt, incompetent and privileged warmongering pseudo-feminist. Let’s hope Sanders continues to torpedo the USS Hillary in key states. Then maybe the cowardly Democratic superdelegate rats will start leaving her sinking campaign.

    2) Sheldon Adelson’s messenger boy Marco Rubio is imploding. Not that it will make a huge dent in Sheldon’s pocket but any defeat for neocon political financiers is a victory for foreign policy sanity.

    I see Trump and Sanders as modern day Samsons. Neither are likely to make it to the White House but hopefully they will take down the corrupt twin temples of the Republican and Democratic parties with them. It is the best possible service they could provide to their country.

  • glenn_uk

    Tony Opmoc: “Cut out a bit of the metal on the sides of the Transit…replace them with Windows for light…Totally rip out the interior…and replace it with the extremely well documented contents…cost a few hundred quid….+ hippy spray paint job…

    Funnily enough, that’s a rough version of my own Transit van camper-conversion job. Minus the hippy spray-job, though – ours is a fairly anonymous blue. Looks like any old builders van, and doesn’t attract attention.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Apologies Craig,

    Its your blog I won’t say a word about the FAKE & REAL Chemical Attacks in Syria and The BBC’s coverage of it..and their Outrageous Fakery

    Catch Up Lad…That was 3 years have not been looking out – its all about you..and Scotland..which is a bit of a sideline surely – if you claim to be a you do…I don’t want to mix your brains with uphill…but it would probably be good if we actually taked to each other rather than writing words on blogs…

    Invite me in London..I will turn up.

    [ Mod: Kindly move this off-topic comment to the previous thread, this is a brand new post ]

    Us English can’t help the fact that we are the nicest, most tolerant people in the world, and that we live in The Most Beautiful Country and have the nicest climate too ..

    A Green and Pleasant Land…

    Yes, the entire World wants to move here whist the American Neocon/Trotskyist Lunatics corrupt Our Government and Institutions with their Outright NAZI/Fascism…

    But the Evidence suggests – what I am writing is the Truth

    ENGLAND – Gets Number 1 – as the Most Desirable Place in The World to Move To – Especially if You are a Refugee…

    So Despite Our Recent Appaling PR as our Media gets Corrupted Too

    Us English who live here – must be doing something nice.

    “I know England will not be heaven, but it will be better than here,” says Hassan, gesturing at the muddy swamp that surrounds him. The desire to get to England increasingly is driven less by a naïve ideal of what life would be like there, than by the sheer will to survive—and get out of the Jungle”

    So what do all the other countries in the world say to that??

    I am Proud To Be ENGLISH

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  • RobG

    Tony, the refugee wave started in September 2014, when the Americans started bombing Syria.

    Between September 2014 and September 2015 the amount of refugees coming out of Syria doubled.

    This is fact, fact never spoken about by the presstitutes.

    The likes of me can try to get this info out there, but we face a tidal wave of loons and psychos, who are in the pay of the ‘evil empire’.

    All of these psychos will be held to account. Make no mistake about that.

  • Courtenay Barnett

    Craig said:-

    “She may be Goldman Sachs’ dog in this fight, but she is also Tel Aviv’s.”

    Indeed the Clintons ( plural) have been whores from start to now – and no doubt – shall be to the end.

    I agree with you Craig.

  • Herbie

    I’d be very very surprised if Trump weren’t the stooge, the fall guy in all this.

    It’s hard to believe a word he says when you look at his record, even though he does often present what you’d expect to be the US fallback position were they to lose in their battle with the rest of the world.


    Maybe it’ll all go arse faced before the election proper, then there’s no point in Hillary and Trumps’s isolationism becomes all the rage.

    The Bankers and IMF are looking a bit strange at the moment. Giving way too much public advice.

    Hard to work out who’s on whose side, how the teams line up.

    Perhaps it’s just one of those periods of shifting alliances, eh.

  • Herbie

    By “public advice” above, I mean speaking to govt policy through public media.

    Used to be called megaphone diplomacy, which is generally reserved for enemies and competitors.

    When “friends” use it, it may indicate a disagreement or falling out.

    Something unresolved, intractable perhaps.

    Interesting times.

  • Karel

    I am stunned by your briliant ideas and expertise. Correct me, if I am wrong. When I was a student we were once told by the lecturer that „ the locused laser pulses“ can be used to zapp locust but only after a short foreplay that makes the plasma flow. The interplay comes later on. Did the queen of chaos witness the event?

  • Ben-Mysogyy is my name

    Trump is the Spoiler. He exults in political non-sequitrs that elevate his status as an honest man. He is speaking the truth but without consequence for himself. He has nothing to lose except the nomination which he really doesn’t want. He just wants the accolades without the commensurate work of office. If he’s elected he will not serve. He just wants to fuck things up for his own entertainment.

  • giyane

    Triangulation can of course mean the white slave trade, ships from places like Preston using the trade winds from the South West, i.e. the Caribbean to travel south to Africa with bits and bobs, pressgang Africans, sail to the West Indies and then sail back to the UK with the produce,

    And from that meaning it can mean any kind of duplicity, sexual or financial in which one party has a contract with someone who has a hidden contract with someone else.

    Is it true that the US electorate don’t know that their government runs Al Qaida and IS?

    No, it is the same dark secret of the UK slave trade, every one is complicit in the destruction of Islam until a few brave souls are able to contradict the supposed benefits.

    At the moment Putin is that Wilberforce possibly because he understands political bullshit. Condoleesa Rice and Craig both dismiss him as an imperialist, because he stands in the way of the modern enslavement of Muslims, which is based on racism against Muslims.

    Israel and Saudi Arabia seek theological cover for their genocidal racism. Israel and Saudi Arabia have twice used tactical nuclear weapons to enforce their wishes, once in 9/11 and last year in Yemen.

    From where I’m standing Saudi Arabia and Israel using theological justifications to exert power over people who have not yielded to conventional methods of persuasion, like torture or war, is a lot more scary than either Trump or Clinton getting to be president.

    These 2 are just loveable carpetbaggers compared to the menace of a Salafist or zionist nuclear threat. Needless to say this display of raw power has nothing to do with either Judaism or Islam . It is an abomination which places both of them in Hell fire. And rather a good reason for the UK to replace Trident.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Trowbridge – the gift that goes on giving. Please calculate for us the source power required to blow a hole 1cm deep in, let us say, basalt, using a laser situated at an altitude of 160 Km, taking due account of atmospheric absorption (state the wavelength you propose to use, please) variable cloud cover, the difficulty of focussing anything to a spot size less than…ooohhh….10 cm, at that range…. you know, all the awkward math stuff. Then, using appropriate scaling factors, outline the size of the installation in orbit you propose to actually achieve the equivalent of (a) a 250 Kg high explosive charge and (b)a small nuclear explosion* at ground level. You may assume a hydrogen-fluorine chemical laser. Outline for us how the laser is to be refuelled, if it is not to be a one-shot wonder.

    Sniggering in anticipation…

    *Nuclear explosions may cause or trigger earthquakes. Perhaps. See –

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Thanks, Ba’al Zevul, for the fishing trip to get me in trouble with the authorities about spying.

    All I shall say is read Jeff Hecht’s most dated book Beams about what lasers are militarily capable of, thanks especially to Gordon Gould’s patents on them.

    Everything else is above Top Secret.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    I think you are trying to mislead our CIA chum, Glenn.

    Laser beams are used because they remain tightly focused for large distances. Nevertheless, there is enough dispersion of the beam that it is about 7 kilometers in diameter when it reaches the Moon and 20 kilometers in diameter when it returns to Earth. Because of this very weak signal, observations are made for several hours at a time. By averaging the signal for this period, the distance to the Moon can be measured to an accuracy of about 3 centimeters (the average distance from the Earth to the Moon is about 385,000 kilometers).


    Everything else is above Top Secret.

    Of course it is. Any results on the energy calculations, yet? Ideas on why a black-clad team of subversive Seals couldn’t deniably leave physical explosives far in excess of anything deliverable by ‘laser’, in the right surface location at exactly the right time to unlock an unstable fault zone? And why that wouldn’t be a hell of a lot simpler, and far more easily blamed on the PKK? Apart from the overwhelming probability that it wouldn’t work either, that is.

    Use your imagination, pal.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    I use my imagination all the time, pal, which you are seriously incapable of doing.

    Like how to refuel a chemical laser. Have you ever heard of the Boeing X-37B which can not only do this but also help target a submarine caused earthquake and tsumani, like what caused the Fukushima disaster?

    Thought not.

    The big advantage of laser satellites is that one can use them from the NRO office, and they leave no trail for any loon to track, and blame on anyone.

    It’s just nature, again.

    No wonder that the human race is going to be on its way to extinction within a generation.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Still, all that’s a pretty obvious diversion from la Clinton, and the clammy hands pulling her strings.

    Here’s Clinton on the two-state solution, which even Netanyahu has admitted is a figment of the liberals’ imagination, but whose corpse he continues to display in order to obscure his intention to force the Pals to the wall. Literally. He’s building more wall, too.

    All the usual platitudes and lack of substance. Back the impotent PA, which does much of Israel’s dirty work for it. Regard the settlement programme as an excuse for doing fuck-all. And don’t, whatever you do, bring the UN into it.

    Meanwhile, send Biden over there to ask the Israelis if they will kindly accept still more aircraft and aid from the ever-generous US taxpayer:–and-patch-things-up/2016/03/07/d2dce47a-cec2-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_story.htm

    Including F-35’s, whose design secrets the Israelis are believed to have sold to the Chinese some tima ago…

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Just dodging the bullets now.

    Tony brought up the bombing of Yugoslavia which I corrected, and you kept going by denying my claims about what lasers had done then, and are still doing now.

    You are just a troll.

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