The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
katie
Why don’t they publish the photos they say they have not long before they were murdered to jog people’s memories? It’s like they don’t really want to solve it but are just pretending.
Kathy, that would be an obvious thing to do wouldn’t it, I cannot understand the secrecy surrounding the women & Mollier, we seen Frederic Brun & Saad so why not them ?.
The taser:
Reports suggested the illegal weapon was found during extensive searches of the property in Oaken Lane, however a Surrey Police spokesman said they could not confirm this was the case.
Her tweet is misleading – it could do with a not in it! But that wouldn’t be news, would it?
Laura Proto @Laura_Elmbridge
Taser reportedly found at Al-Hilli’s Claygate home:
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/9974883.Taser_reportedly_found_at_Al_Hilli_s_Claygate_home/
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@Dopey
any idea why this Linkedin profile comes up with TV Martin’s?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/balsam-shawky/21/866/689?trk=pub-pbmap
I think we have seen that plant name before on this thread.
BTW, Laura P tweets she is going to Paris for the weekend. Al-Hilli related work or pleasure?
Felix, it seems they are just trying to besmirch AH, surely they know definitively whether they found a taser, or not…….. I’ve always felt he’s the innocent in all this.
@Bluebird
Thanks for your clarity on “claire”.
Q. I want to open a tourist villa in France. Oh, I have a semi-dormant company at 55 Princes Gate. I’ll just put the purchase through that. Credible? Of course there is no direct link to the cash flow and the Brossard house. We don’t even know who owns the house in the Impasse or when it was last bought. (is there a MausPrix for France?)
BTW, what is the position of the Surrey Constabulary these days (apart from keeping mum about the taser)? Two dead, allegedly, two orphans, perhaps, and what? Case closed?? The background evidence, paper trails, is all on British Soil.
“long grass” “kick”
Around 100 police officers in Britain and France are investigating.. Telegraph, 4 Oct. allegedly.
@Norfolk Eagle
(again) Great work! you could always ask the postman! Must be hell towards the end of the tax year sorting out all the companies at no 55, not to mention redirections, gone away firms etc.
@Tim V
I have to disagree about the serial incompetence of the police in such a high level case as this. Not finding living people in a car for 8 hours, not being able to find a telephone helpline for a month, allowing the press to trample all over a crime scene – this is deliberate obfuscation, not incompetence.
@Katie
Exactly. An ideal way to make out someone wanted to kill SAH. Notice too how the information was provided by the French prosecutor Maillaud. e.g.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/slain-father-kept-stun-gun-in-his-home/story-e6frg6so-1226490094020
Another interesting morceau there – a case of plausible deniablity? –
French investigators are also looking into suspected serial murders in the Chablais region to the north of Annecy. In the latest of three killings, a retired man was shot dead in his garden in May.
Maillaud said he considered it unlikely the cases were linked. “I have to say that there are no parallels, because in each case there was just one victim; why would a serial killer suddenly go for a whole family?” he said.
Not to mention Maillaud leaking the info about the files –
Maillaud disclosed that Hilli brought files about the inheritance with him on his holiday. “We found documents about the legacy at his family home and in his caravan near Annecy, so this was a matter which worried Saad at the time,” Maillaud said. “The inheritance is part of our inquiries, and whether or not it had a role in the tragedy.”
It was reported in the French media yesterday that two wills connected with the estate of Hilli’s father were also found in the family home. Some car numberplates were also reportedly recovered.
Katie
Yes, the omission is glaringly obvious.
@N Eagle
Good work. And I find that “usual” for a firm of that type.
Nd your last point, yep noted them. Sec Ser and Noms et al …have alot of funny things going on.
Good acc firm tho…no one ever makes a profit ! May enroll myself there.
Oh..want to check last accs of the NZ leaf. I nave upto 2009/10.
The 600K is a dir loan into the Co, not purchase of “the farm”.
Liabilities in one year says its a payment in, to be repaid, so no purchase. (some in Hi Fx acc, some in shares..or options), can someone point to me the purchase of “the farm” ?
@Ricki
Hey if you want to watch a nother great BBC doc – check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fB6nViwJcM
Hey, how about that…
Check out the interview with Peter Tompkins, OSS Officer, Rome 1943 – 1945 at 10m 10s.
He’s blinking-blinking-blinking!
@James
can someone point to me the purchase of “the farm” ?
Silver Fern: Freehold Property
1st March 2010: £341,782
28th Feb 2011 : £363,290
Source: Annual Accounts to 28 Feb 2011
Ferret..
Did you see Drummer boy…and the other Co’s (consultants) at 55.
Bluebird did. A fusion of people. He’ll agree.
So Phantom is, by association a contactor.
So what’s the relationship ? SAH ? SM ? Both ? Non ?
He is fused together, surely, but with which (bluebird will get that !)
Open question to anyone who has all Silver Fern’s annual accounts to hand…
Can anyone spot anything unusual about Brett Martin’s signature on the accounts from 2007 to 2011?
As I’ve said before, Kathy, the only logical reason I can think of,is that those two women would be recognisable……but by whom ?
Were they living under assumed names for some reason ?
Remember the police took days to identify the older woman.
Felix.
I suspect AH had the will with him to show proof at the bank that he was now the rightful owner of that Swiss account & cash…….if only 50% ?
But also the ‘papers’ he was concerned about to be put into a safe deposit box. I think there’s something there dating back to his fathers flit from Iraq,names,incriminating info on the corruption ………..
@Ferret.
Havent got them. Have later.
Is that Hi Fx acc still funded ? (I have Hi Fx and shares here)
Ill get it. Can you look.
2010
HiFx 341,782
Shares 193,386
is 535,168
Felix.
I wonder if the car number plates, were trade plates, something to do with his car trading ?
They list “stock” as £190,488 in 2011 and £193,396 in 2010.
Their accounting policies changed that year and they don’t show hifx specifically, I’m just assuming this is it as it can’t be anywhere else.
31/12/10
…and on behalf of the board…..! Not one of the board !
Oh wait, no – “stock” must be “shares” from the prev year’s accts. Looks like the hifx acct has been closed and used to buy the house.
…and on behalf of the board…..! Not one of the board !
No, that’s just normal accountant-speak. One of the Directors has to sign “on behalf of the board”.
Get the other accounts and check the signatures
The two wills….one the mothers or even Saad himself had written a will,which would be right at his age with two daughters ?
@Ferret
If you pull up 31/12/10 and look at “Mark C Whitehead”.
He signs it “WB Murh” (W B Martin)
It’s a bollocks.
Hence I say. He is a contractor….and this was never suppose to happen.
So…what was suppose to happen ? What has happened before ?
@Ferert
Did you see my conversation with Bluebird, re the “drummer boy” ?
Actually, it is “public access”, so I can state certain facts witout breaking any laws.
Hi “Ferret”. My observation about BM’s company is based on the fact that liabilities are listed at over three times the assets, and income was only about £21,000. Also that the description category is the most general available. This is not suspicious of itself. Hi “Bluebird” this was something I noticed early on. I posted this on Huffington Post on the 15th Sept. 2012. “Mr. Martin reports the green four wheel drive vehicle plus motor cycle passing him. In one case it is reported “French detectives were last night hunting the driver of a green 4×4 vehicle and a motorcyclist seen speeding TOWARDS the murder scene shortly before the massacre was discovered.” Another says “The witness, who is a former RAF man, was cycling on the heavily forested road south of Chevaline on his mountain bike, when he was OVERTAKEN at speed by a green 4×4 vehicle and a motorcyclist”. However, later it is reported “the unidentified RAF officer told police that he had seen a dark green four-wheel drive vehicle and a motorbike COMING DOWN the hill shortly before he arrived on the scene”. Meanwhile “Phillipe D” who as we have already noted, was only 50 yards behind, was adamant no vehicle passed them going up or down although only about “50 yards” behind. It is reported “The French hiker said was “totally sure” he had “heard nothing and passed nobody – not a car or a motorbike”. So were these vehicles going up, coming down, both or neither?”
If you pull up 31/12/10 and look at “Mark C Whitehead”.
He signs it “WB Murh” (W B Martin)
I hate to say it but “Mark C Whitehead – Director” is probably just a mistake, and WBM just signed on the dotted line like every good director is told to.
(Mark Clinton Whitehead was Director of Wlkp Properties Ltd also at 55 Princes Gate, and other companies.)
@ferret
I am not going to mention anyones company as their private business is their own private business.
This post is merely to look at Siver Fern’s use of a certain accountant, maybe related to the fact that the firm is specialised in the feild of contractors.
Fifty Five also has a consultant on their books that has a LinkedIn profile stating he works for
http://www.teamfusion.com/
I state this merely to try and acertain that Silver Fern may be related to a specialized accountancy firm.