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  • Resident Dissident

    Anode

    It is a bit difficult to take seriously your claims for Direct Democracy when it is based on a Wikipedia article which suggests the practice is supported by a rather disparate group of small and rather obscure groups – the Pirate Party just for starters and then we get various nutters suggesting that Ghadaffi’s Libya is the preferred model for Direct democracy. I’m all for looking at new means to get more people involved in the political process – but if you think all political decisions can somehow be settled by open outcry and that the representative model should be junked entirely when the mechanisms for getting everyone (which of course is probably not what you want!) involved on an equal and fair basis as far from established. I’m afraid I have far too much experience of how quite a few on the far left used to play around with meetings and schedules in order to manipulate the political process to their advantage (remember all those late agenda items that suddenly appeared at sparsely attended meeting on a cold February night, the lost nominations and similar) to have much hope that the interest in new forms of democracy is anything like as genuine as you think. Too much of the rest of the thinking is similar to think that these leopards have really changed their spots.

  • Fedup

    Thanks BrianFujisan and Sofia, for your warm welcome.

    However as you have rightly pointed out the shills’ torrents of unconscious drivel flooding thread after thread is yet more validation of my earlier forwarded point; the degree of power extends to the point of denying the freedom of expression to even point to the source of power and the roots of the supremacists’ hegemony holding sway.

    The almost comical reaction of the assigned shills to bombard the thread with irrelevancies to bury any notion contrary to the prescribed notions, and the tolerance extended to the shills are only anticipated and expected outcomes, so no surprise there.

    The fact that eighty percent of the Tory party’s serving parliamentary cadre are friends of zionistan, with the same percentages applying to other incumbent party’s and their serving cadres. This all making a mockery of the so called our “Democracy Brand” that is getting shoved down the throats of us all as the best alternative since the invention of the sliced bread.

    Fact that majority of the parliamentary selected “representatives” are far too concerned with the welfare of those in Tel aviv than in Glasgow are by the by matters with little relevance or merit!

    This day began with the corporate media drumming the news from the benighted lands of Iraq that is suffering the “birth pangs” a decade after the introduction of Western Democracy Brand with further caveats of; West will bomb some more if only the Iraqian el presidente decides to step down!!!

    However little attention has been paid to the poverty levels that have gone unnoticed in UK with thirty percent of the inhabitants being officially poor despite working all hours any jobs they can find.

    The number of households that fall below the minimum standard of living has risen from 14% to 33% over the last 30 years – despite the size of the economy doubling in the same period.

    Almost 18 million people cannot afford adequate housing conditions.

    12 million people are too poor to engage in common social activities.

    One in three people cannot afford to heat their homes adequately in the winter.

    Four million children and adults aren’t properly fed by today’s standards.

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    • About 5.5 million adults go without essential clothing.

    • Around 2.5 million children live in homes that are damp.

    • Around 1.5 million children live in households that cannot afford to heat their home.

    • One in four adults have incomes below what they consider is needed to avoid poverty.

    • One in every six (17%) adults in paid work are poor.

    • More than one in five adults have had to borrow in the last year to pay for day to day needs.

    Fact that social workers have become poverty adjudicators to officially declare those “deserving poor” to be “poor” and introduce these to secret food banks so the aforementioned poor can get food stuff rations from the said secret food banks, is of no concern to anyone. After all taxing the poor at source and calling it tightening our belts so that the rich can get tax breaks and make a song and a dance about “austerity” in the way of paving the way for good times ahead!!!!

    While the corporate media stenographers are singing the praises of the employment under zero hour contract schemes; “although it may not be regular work but it helps reduce the unemployment figures” This was the assessment delivered by a bimbo with a mic on Sky.

    We have a lot to thank our benefactors for, in fact we must all be sent to re-education camps if we don’t enjoy the insults of the supremacist narcissists, these obviously are telling of nasty traits of those whom have fallen victim to “antisemi….” and darn sure are Muslims and domestic extremists.

    So I am so glad to have been told to “Fuck off” and the mods have left it there in case I missed it, in a tradition that goes a long way back, all in the best possible taste of course.

  • Resident Dissident

    Sofia

    So glad that you brought up the Ukraine – I’m afraid that your source on matters Ukrainian who you quote regulary has rather let the cat out of the bag hasn’t he.

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/a-scorecard-for-us-lukewarm-war-on.html

    “At this point the Russian policy becomes, I think, clear: to covertly support the resistance movement of Novorossia without yielding any proof of intervention which could be used by the AngloZionists to demonize Russia (they already do that, but with very little credibility in the public opinion).”

    Lets leave aside what on earth the whole thing has to do with Zionism or illegal annexation of part of a foreign country – but is Vineyard Saker acknowledges that Russia is covertly supporting “the resistance movement” in Eastern Ukraine but employing the tactic of not “yielding any proof of intervention” i.e. lying about it and covering it up it all becomes pretty clear from what angle you and Mr Goss are coming from – doen’t it?

  • Resident Dissident

    “the degree of power extends to the point of denying the freedom of expression to even point to the source of power and the roots of the supremacists’ hegemony holding sway.”

    Yet strangely enough we seem to fail time after time in this regard in our western democracies.

    Just a hint – you might get rather more people to concentrate on the real problems of poverty if you drop the references to Zionism being the cause. Might I also suggest that the reason you are sworn at is because you are not averse to casting the first stone yourself.

  • Resident Dissident

    Ben

    When I need lectures on answering questions from you I shall ask. And what exactly do you think you are projecting.

  • Resident Dissident

    I must say that I always wondered where the WRP had disappeared to – now given all the love expressed here for Ghadaffi I now have a pretty good idea.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Lectures are pointless when an audience of one sees fit to repeat, ad infinitum, falsehoods designed to avoid the salient questions arising from your drive-bys and pot-shots, RD.

    You have done a great job of ham-stringing your own credibility without any help from us, and why is it you seem to preach from your own lectern, seemingly located on Mt Olympus/

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/republican-congressman-has-interesting-response-to-911-truth

    “Asked if the government was withholding information about 9/11 because it doesn’t fit with the official narrative, Republican Rep. Pete Sessions replied with a question about who shot President John F. Kennedy.
    “Do you think that Oswald was the only person to shoot Jack Kennedy, our president?” Sessions said in response to a student in a Berkner High School AP government class in December 2013.
    A spokesperson for the Rep. Sessions’ office clarified his comments to BuzzFeed:

    Congressman Sessions was responding to a question that, remarkably and despite all evidence to the contrary, still pops up from time to time about what actually happened on 9/11. Unfortunately, innocent people never could have imagined such a horrific attack prior to its occurrence and because of that some people still might not believe what actually happened. The Congressman’s response to that disbelief is clear. We know precisely what happened on September 11, 2001. Terrorists from al-Qaeda hijacked four planes, one of which was flown into the Pentagon here in Washington and another which was taken down by American heroes in Pennsylvania so that the terrorists could not kill more innocent people wherever the terrorists had intended to fly that plane.”

    Don’cha love revisionism, RD?

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Heh. CIA….this is comparable to the legendary ‘exploding cigar’ for Castro. I think it’s time for them to create a genuine ‘think’tank that doesn’t tank on reality and common sense.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-hatched-plan-to-make-demon-toy-to-counter-bin-laden-influence/2014/06/19/cb3d571c-f0d0-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html

    “Beginning in about 2005, the CIA began secretly developing a custom-made Osama bin Laden action figure, according to people familiar with the project. The faces of the figures were painted with a heat-dissolving material, designed to peel off and reveal a red-faced bin Laden who looked like a demon, with piercing green eyes and black facial markings.”

    It’s a new level of demonization that will win hearts and minds. The ‘Peter Principle’ shark has been jumped.

  • Tony M

    It says policy “Russian policy ‘becomes’, I think, clear”, not that there is any such policy in operation, or has ever been, as far as anyone can say, most probably because it isn’t true, but that altruistically Russia has no alternative. Russia being in a position to, being next-door, should have intervened decisively, to protect those citizens subjected to the still illegal neo-nazi thug and foreign mercenary backed Ukranian regime’s mass-murdering rampages, as necessary, and to restore power, water essential services and uphold basic human rights where they have been destroyed. Why does it pain you that Russia has become a force for good in the world we now inhabit?

    You cannot slate everything this blogger Slaker has said over the past several months as unreliable, biased etc. and then today find something which can be twisted to your perverse world view and suddenly decide there’s a bit I can make some tenuous meaningless point with – this blogger just this once is a fountain of sparkling truth – just on this tiny point wilfully misunderstood or misinterpreted by you, without invalidating any and every previous statement you’ve made on this subject. Logic is not your strength.

    Representative democracy such as has existed, here in the UK has been a failure, except in serving the ends of an elite, an elite consisting largely of the previous aristocracy, organised crime and aspirant psychopaths of no fixed morality. Direct democracy, within a well devised constitution, perhaps something like the Swiss model: frequent referenda to decide contentious matters, or held at public request, local democracy with a skeleton central state. Technolgies now maturing can facilitate the greatest inclusivity, online voting from home computers, and at town and village halls, postal polling, mobile-library-like democracy on wheels outreach, mass-produced wirelessly linked ‘Participation Pods’ in the street and dedicated compact devices, one for every member of the electorate, to switch on or not and take part in making binary or multiple option choices and decisions, and a civil service to implement the public’s an informed electorate, possible only with community-owned free, fearless media. The only argument against, tiresomely made by its detractors is: what if the people make unpleasant choices, e.g. return of capital punishment, this is easily negated in that the constitution forbids that the state can take away human life.

    You’re not much of a dissident, only repulsively decadent, if you think everything is just fine as it is, deny to the point of evident mental distress that you are on the side all that is clearly monstrous, bad and wrong; you must have lived a charmed pampered life, but cannot comprehend that the advantages you had, through no effort on your part, were not provided to most of the world’s or even most of this country’s people. You’ve lived in a bubble of privilege, a carefree cocoon where the party must never end, your reality is a false one, a closed world of inculcated superiority and entitlement, those within seething with contempt and hatred for their fellow man, who you see as existing for you to exploit or to pronounce surplus to your requirements and initial their death warrants and hasten their elimination.

    This blog is for alternative voices, we do not want to hear the mainstream media narratives you parrot, we can see the disconnect there between what is reported and significant contradictory facts and truths, and can confidently categorise it: not propaganda, it’s not a viewpoint or an interpretation, it is out and out lies and such sources, including yourself, are deliberate complicit incurable serial liars.

  • Sofia

    John.

    What a brilliant clip!

    I’ve been waiting all day to ope the clip of western vassal PMs giving the same delusional speech.

    I wasn’t disappointed.

    I notice that none of the conformity enforcers are willing to challenge the obvious conclusions.

    Ba’al.

    “…I remember what it used to be like.”

    Good to hear you find some relief with, Habbabreak.*

    But don’t let over-use cause you to become complacent. There is always the risk that, like an old varuka, it will multiply. So it’s worth checking on now and then.

    Many thanks to Afriend.

    RD /ELSO (Mini-Habba).

    Re Ukraine.

    Last time round banker sponsored fascism left 26 million Russians dead and became quite unpopular with Russians. So the Saker’s guess is worth considering.

    How would you suggest the Russian state should react to the US / EU sponsored slaughter being unleashed on the people of Eastern Ukraine by both overt and covert means in a clear attempt to engineer a pretext for “Shock and Awe” against Russia?

    Fedup. 10 38pm

    WARNING!

    You have strayed from the mandated narratives.

    The evidence you present has not been authorised for public consumption.

    Expect an escalation.

    The first hasbarito to get under your skin will get bonuses.

    See below.

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  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    “Representative democracy such as has existed, here in the UK has been a failure, except in serving the ends of an elite”

    It’s been perverted by the notion that the majority is somehow, Tyranny. That was the concern of the founders of the Constitution.

    They created a system which they thought would prevent the obvious dichotomy of two or more classes in conflict, with controls that might lead to a more representative form of local and regional governance. They assumed the masses would be too disinterested in the big picture, in favor of their local concerns. It was intended to be flexible enough to evolve in accordance with socio/political change. I don’t know if they were prescient enough to foresee the Industrial Revolution with all the warts, but I know they had good intent. What exists now is a perversion of all the best ideas crafted by those wizened originators. They weren’t omniscient but they had a good sense of human nature, and that’s the crux. Direct democracy would take a preeminent centralized government to a more local, decentralized governance and perhaps the frustration voters experience in the current system would be assuaged and encourage more participation for local elections, which is the weakness we currently enjoy.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    “But don’t let over-use cause you to become complacent. There is always the risk that, like an old varuka, it will multiply. So it’s worth checking on now and then.”

    That’s my concern. Inmates running the Asylum.

  • A Node

    Resident Dissident
    “It is a bit difficult to take seriously your claims for Direct Democracy …”

    As a critic of Western democracy, I have disproved your claim that “… those who attack western democracy are always rather less vocal on the alternatives that they would like to see.” You didn’t specify that those critics had to satisfy your unrealistic criteria for credibility. However, since I’ve so easily demonstrated your inability to predict the responses of those you so regularly accuse of being predictable, I might as well elaborate a little.

    I’m not claiming that direct democracy is a perfect form of government – just that it is far better than our Western representative democracy. Our democracy is designed as a means to make people believe that they are in control whilst in actual fact they are being controlled. The real controllers use a compliant media to hide the fact that they are restricting the electoral choices. Here are two reasons for believing this to be true:

    (1) There was no revolution in Britain. We the people were ‘given’ democracy by our ruling class. Really? A rich and powerful elite chose to willingly hand over power to the ordinary people? And those people then choose to make that elite richer and themselves poorer?

    (2) We, the Western democracies, spend billions of pounds militarily imposing our form of government on countries whose oil we covet. What? We want their oil yet we go to enormous trouble and expense to give their citizens the power to refuse to let us have it? And then the first thing they do with their new democratic power is give it to us anyway, against their own interests?

    The above might fit your aforementioned unrealistic criteria for credibility, but not mine, or any other reasonable person.

    I would suggest everybody on this blog elects me as Emperor of the World and assigns me a machine-gun and a wall for transitionary purposes. Once I’d ticked all the names on my list, I would then get on with implementing a form of direct democracy where …..

    * the leadership is selected by some sort of lottery process.
    * the selected leaders would be well paid and pensioned to compensate them for the fact that they would never be allowed to accept money or favours from any business interests for the rest of their lives.
    * the major business of government would be divided into 6/7 departments, say education, health/science, foreign policy/security, domestic affairs/future planning and whatever else I’ve forgotten.
    * each year, for eleven months the media would focus on one of these departments, raising awareness of the issues, until at the end of the year, the public could make an informed choice on the relevant issues.
    * everyone would have a month off politics, then begin to focus on the following year’s subject, completing a complete programme of government every 6/7 years.

    Please tick one of the boxes below:

    □ A Node for Emperor of the World

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Please tick one of the boxes below:

    □ A Node for Emperor of the World

    * Ben for Benevolent Dictator.

    I don’t expect, or want to be elected.

  • Spike

    @B-LPLET, thanx for the priceless crawling by Sessions. I wonder how CIA sent him the message: Boiled his doggy? Picked up his grandkids at school and took them out for ice cream? Stuffed his hard disk with kiddy porn? Disappeared him for a week and raped him with chemical light sticks?

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Spike; The Honey Trap is certainly SOP, but a more sinister silhouette is his advisors/Planespotters/Pollsters gang-raped him in effigy, just to make a point and some laughs.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    This seems self-evident…

    “Tony Blair has been widely derided for his attempted justification of the 2003 Iraq invasion, and his claim last weekend that he’s blameless over the current turmoil. Unfortunately, though, many of his critics have also bought into a central plank of his argument: that Iraqi society is no more than a motley collection of religions and ethnicities which have been waiting for decades, if not centuries, to slaughter each other and plunge the place into a bloodbath. ”

    http://chris-floyd.com/

  • Fool

    It would be odd if Russia did not have an interest in supporting anti fracking groups. Very annoying but to be expected.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Might I also suggest that the reason you are sworn at is because you are not averse to casting the first stone yourself.”
    ___________________

    Absolutely right, Resident Dissident.

    I simply couldn’t resist repaying one of the “fuck off”s with which Fedup used to pepper his comments.

    But it was a one-off and I’m sure Fedup will keep to the straight and narrow.

    *********************

    I was wondering where Fedup had so completely disappeared to for the last six months or so. Not a peep out of him, not even on other blogs (eg loke Macky on Squonk); no flouncing out and then reappearing under another handle (various..).

    As I find it difficult to believe in Fedup’s powers of self-restraint, I’m wondering whether he wasn’t physically unable to access the internet.

    In what circumstances is the ordinary citizen unable to access the internet for several months, I ask myself…….

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    I notice that California Ben STILL seems very annoyed with Resident Dissident. Why should that be, I wonder?

    I also notice that he seems so angry that words fail him and he has to borrow (without acknowledgment, the ungracious fellow!) from others (“Mt. Olympus”, “inmates taking over the asylum”…).

    ************************

    Habbabkuk says : strive for originality, combat plagiarism.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Still no admission from Mr Goss that he was wrong about Ceausescu’s Romania being debt-free?

    A real Brer Rabbit – lying low and saying nuffin’…….

  • Herbie

    Always when habby posts a spate of drivel, it’s a good idea to look at what’s happening on the Israeli front.

    Generally you’ll find that habby posts extreme amounts of effluent when things aren’t going well for the squatters.

    And this time’s no different:

    “Presbyterian panel backs Israel divestment measure”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2660811/Presbyterian-panel-backs-Israel-divestment-measure.html

    The squatters are of course all a wavin, a flappin and anti semiten, all over the web, anything to divert attention from their ongoing criminality against the Palestinians.

  • Ba'al Zevul ('Ere We Go (Back Home))

    “The former UK high official expressed satisfaction over Serbia’s progress and voiced strong support to the European integration process and Belgrade’s intentions to conduct the necessary reforms. In this context, he agreed to help the Serbian government, the release states.”

    Will someone please tell me what the actual fuck Blair’s ‘high official’ position is? Has Serbia joined the Middle East (God help it)? The greasy little sod’s posing as someone who has a function in the EU? Someone needs to slap him down hard.

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