The Rush to Violence 933

Between 4 and 20 August the Saudi Arabian government beheaded 19 people. Saudi Arabia, which has funded and armed ISIS from inception (initially with CIA support), is now bombing alongside the USA in Iraq and Syria.

Forget the war technology porn regularly being broadcast by western media, with those spectacular photos of missiles erupting from ships into the night sky. Those missiles and bombs eviscerate and maim innocents as well as combatants, children as well as terrorists. The West always first denies, then regrets, “collateral damage”. The propaganda can be laughable. During the invasion of Iraq I remember a news propaganda item about how a cruise missile can enter a specific window, being followed by the next item – the US had apologised to Syria for two missiles aimed at Iraq which had hit Syria by accident.

If we can accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy in Serbia, we can – and do – hit civilian homes near the proposed target. Being eviscerated by a piece of flying shrapnel is no less terrible than being beheaded by a jihadist. Let us not pretend that our violence is somehow nicer. Children will be dying under our bombs soon.

Other than the two extraordinary crazed Nigerians, there have been no recent Islamic motivated terrorist attacks in the UK and even a slowdown in the propaganda of phoney attacks. This was a threat to the major financial interests of the security industry, in both its governmental and private branches.

There can be no greater nonsense than the idea that the Caliphate poses a direct threat to the UK. This is even more crazy than the claim that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the UK. But by seeking to join in the bombing campaign, and initiating a new round of fake “anti-terror” arrests in London, the British government is doing everything it possibly can do to try to provoke terrorist violence on British streets. The interests of the security state are therefore secured. I am longing for somebody to explain to me the precise mechanism by which our bombing Islamic countries helps prevent terrorist incidents in the UK. The way it can provoke such incidents seems to me too obvious to need stating. Indeed it says a great deal for the wisdom and tolerance of Britain’s Muslim communities that it has not provoked more. They could teach government a great deal about the good sense of not resorting to violence to gratify passions and earn short term acclaim.

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  • Republic of the Universe

    Before we get into this Ben…I could forward some Alcanon’s

    For ya.. I have went great lengths tierd..

  • Republic of the Universe

    Ben ..

    Sorry… No disrespet… We fucking love you….Can i ask.. you Why the Blog matters so Much to you..

  • Tony M

    I’ve thought through one way in which the troll-roll idea could be advanced, by having a different highlighting or rather a lowlighting, a graying or de-emphasis of the known disruptors’ and shameless liars posts. And in the spirit of democracy, trolls are elected to their shameful positions, any attempt to fiddle the ballot, multiple votes from the same ip, browser id and characteristics etc., nominating the same person for this dishonour more than once, automatically earning for those fiddling the system and caught, a place on the troll-roll themselves. Let the people decide.

    Love it, Glasgow isn’t Scotland now! But the acres of corporate owned ‘game’ lands, ethnically cleansed, presumably are. But delve into most Glaswegian’s family tree and you’ll find a strong Highland line, beginning with their great grandparents. My definition is that modern Scotland is defined by its people, not by the land itself. Land nationalisation or some Land Tax for holdings over a certain size seems a quite fair solution to concentration of land-ownership. Land Tax can be offset for some years by environmental improvements made or community benefits or concessions made, defaulters on the tax forfeit the land, but if resident retain rights to remain, but cannot entail the land on their decease.

  • nevermind, there's a future, still

    RotUniverse is angry, Ben, probably means ‘politically inept, not retard, they are living on an island and can make their own decisions, but they are normal folk who live by the tides, not by party politics.

    They are easily swayed by non stop lament and proffer, if only to shut them up and return to what they are used to, gulls, nature, and hard graft.

    Isil should be fought in the City of London, their backers should be santioned and their credit arrangements at Harrods recinded before their next shopping trip with 27 wifes.

    How come that Camel herders with loush religious principals and habits can pull the strings of the FO, as well as the State dep. and Congress?

    Bibi ought to be looking after his blood pressure, not giving threatening speeches at the UN. he is the pirat, the rogue element, not Iran.

  • Republic of the Universe


    I have been out there…. It’s Plain Impossible for No to win…..Vatersay..Barra is 76% yes..

    Cheers TonyM

  • Tony M

    Ah Luss Nevermind, strange to think if you’ve seen it that the narrow road, now just a trackway, that runs right past The Inverbeg Inn, right up to the front wall of the building, forming a sort of horseshoe shaped drive, once was itself the single carriageway A82, it was that narrow, seriously, up until it was bypassed, as was Luss village in the period 1989-1991.

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    “Why the Blog matters so Much to you..”

    Good question RoU. I’ve been asking myself the same question. It must have something to do with the shared pain of seeing good people trod upon with no arbiter; no ombudsman. Craig has inspired us with his example and i don’t wish to see that image become part of the background. It should be in the forefront. The most disappointing thing about the Left, is the Left. They haggle over minutiae and create division just with their tendency to be prideful in their individualism. They are the same in the UK as in the US, as in Catalonia to Orwell’s disappointment.

    We are suckers for division and we know where division leads.

  • Republic of the Universe


    You Know off Course That i was Fast to denounce my wording… That’s cos I’m a poet…and Humanitarian.

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    Rou; I can tell you are a good person. cheers.

  • Silvio

    British PM David Cameron: “Non-Violent Extremists” Including “9/11 Truthers” and “Conspiracy Theorists” are Just as Dangerous as ISIL Terrorists

    An open letter by Peter Drew

    Dear Mr Cameron

    I write this open letter to you in response to your recent speech at the United Nations calling for military intervention in Iraq and Syria over the threat of ISIL. In particular I would like to make mention of your reference to the so called threat to society of what you have termed ‘non-violent extremists’, including those who are attempting to bring forward information and evidence about 9/11 which contradicts the official version of events.

    Putting aside the direct issue of ISIL for a moment, I find this position on 9/11 evidence to be quite incredible. It is a position that is either extremely ignorant, or it is a position that goes against freedom and democracy in British society to such an extent that it is scarcely believable. Huge numbers of extremely credible and professional people across the world are now bringing forward incontrovertible facts and evidence showing us that the events of 9/11 have been systematically covered up, and that the public has been deceived and manipulated on this issue at a quite incredible level. Just like the public was deceived and manipulated about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.


    Just to reinforce my point here, according to what you have said, because of their views on 9/11, or because of the evidence they have brought forward, you consider the following people to be ‘non-violent extremists’ who are a part of the challenge that society faces with the ISIL threat:

    · Members of US Congress who have called for the 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission Report to be released

    · 100,000 members of the New York public for formally supporting and requesting a new investigation into the collapse of World Trade Centre Building 7 on 9/11

    · Dozens of first responder fire fighters who risked their lives on 9/11 and who lost 343 of their colleagues that day, including those who formed the organisation ‘Fire Fighters for 9/11 Truth’

    · More than 2,200 professional architects, engineers, and demolition experts from the organisation ‘Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth’

    · Norman Minneta – US Secretary of Transport during 9/11 who had his formal testimony to the 9/11 investigation panel stricken from the record

    · Richard Clarke – US Head of Counter Terrorism during 9/11

    · Numerous family members of the victims of 9/11


    The truth facts and evidence about 9/11 are now coming forward and there is a tidal wave of growing awareness as people are now getting to see this information, as shown by what is happening in New York City as we speak. It cannot be covered up by any crude efforts by the UK government to censor the internet or to give these people an extremist label. It is far too late for that. For anyone in office to continue to support the attempted suppression of this information will simply result in them being positioned on the wrong side of history.

    Yours sincerely,

    Peter Drew – MSc

    UK Facilitator – Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

  • Kempe

    Increasing problems for “Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (sic)” are not only the mounting ridicule from the other 99.7% of their profession but the incompatibility of their theory with more recent developments in the “Truth” movement. Principally the increasingly popular “No Planes” theories involving “mini nukes” or ray guns fired from space.

    Proponents of these theories maintain that nobody died on 9/11 and that all the bereaved are actors in the employ of the government. This in turn means that any call by family members of victims can only be more government controlled disinformation.

  • TonyF12

    Dear Craig,
    As a regular reader and very infrequent contributor, please allow me to say that you should try to do something to stop your blog being trolled out of business by people who care little about the issues you raise. Those interested in your issues end up spending ages wading through so much noise of bickering and personal grinding of axes. Sometimes it reads like a literary denial of service.

  • YouKnowMyName

    TonyF12: undermining the quality, degrading the signal to noise ratio for ‘enemy’ communications is a fundamental and historic task for the signal intelligence community.. it used to be called “jamming” in the Hot-War, Cold-War, now it’s a feature of the 2014 Information War. Shannon would be proud of the lot of you!, not.

    We see from Theresa May’s speech today that UK GOV (whoever will be in power) would like to block extremist views from being posted online. Note that’s not terrorist views, it’s a wooly definition of “extremism” – which won’t apply to the sock-puppets themselves, extremism might involve sharing of ‘truth’ …… lets have a debate on this – or is that extremist?

    Meanwhile in Canada, ‘activists’ have noticed that the Canadian intelligence community are squirming in efforts to not reveal that
    “media reports suggested that CSIS and other government agencies consider opposition to the petroleum industry as a threat to national security.” …… lets have a debate on this- or is that extremist?

    HK is having an externally funded color-revolution …… lets have a debate on this – or is that extremist?

    Scandal in (just?) Germany

    BESTSELLER IN GERMANY – “Bought journalists” Hardback – Sept. 11, 2014 by Udo Ulfkotte
    Journalists manipulate us in the interests of the powerful, have also the feeling that they are often manipulated and lied to by the media? Then you’re like the majority of Germans. Previously it was considered “conspiracy theory” that mainstream media manipulate us citizens with propaganda techniques targeted. Now an insider reveals what really happens behind the scenes. The journalist Udo Ulfkotte ashamed today that he worked 17 years for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. Before the author reveals the secret networks of power, he exercises consistently self-criticism. He documented here for the first time, as he lubricated for his reporting in the FAZ and the corruption was encouraged. And he reveals why opinion leaders and tendentious report prepared as the extended arm of the NATO press office media wars. As, of course, the author was inducted into the American networks elite organizations, received in exchange for positive coverage in the United States, even a honorary citizen certificate. In this book you will learn in which lobbying organizations which journalists are represented. The author lists hundreds of names and faces behind the scenes of the organizations that influence our media propaganda on one side, about: Atlantic Bridge, Trilateral Commission, German Marshall Fund, American Council on Germany, American Academy, Aspen Institute and Institute for European Politics. Also be revealing the intelligence backgrounds to lobby groups, the propaganda techniques and the forms with which one can retrieve about at the United States Embassy funding for projects for specific manipulation of public opinion in Germany. If the CIA pretends what is written Can you imagine that intelligence officials write in text editors, which are then published in the editorial section under the names of famous journalists? Do you know which journalists were lubricated which media for their coverage? And you have a rough idea of ​​how prestigious “journalism awards” will be awarded? Because it goes to the background as the former honors the “hero of labor” in the former GDR as propaganda work is excellent. From journalists to propagandists, it is not far. If you have read this book, you will see our newspapers with different eyes, often just turn off the TV and also know what you still can feel the radio: almost nothing. For Ulfkotte also writes on meticulously, which transmitter belongs to which political party and which journalists are as affected. You see how you are manipulated and you know who and why. At the end is clear: diversity of opinion is now only simulated. Because our “news” are often pure brainwashing. lets have a debate on this – or is that extremist?

  • Macky

    “Why the Blog matters so Much to you..”

    I also was asking myself the same question for a very long time, only to finally realize what this Blog really is all about, which is simply is a means for a ostracised ex-insider to hit back at those, and the system responsible for the ostracism. Instead of turning his long accustomed blind-eye to the end results of the unethical policies the system thrives on, his overactive libido finally got him into a situation where he found himself as the most unlikely of Whistleblowers, an ill-fitting role for sure, and one with which he has struggled with ever since. As despite the Human Rights attacks with which he hits backs with, the man who once supervised the intelligence analysis on the effectiveness of the genocidal Iraqi sanctions, (a role that included the absurd yet deadly diabolical vetting of so called “dual-use” items, and of course providing information to UK military forces), is exactly the same man who is presenting propagandising against Russia. It takes a certain type & mindset to get as far as Ambassador, and that it happened under Blair is telling in itself, as the occasional Posts reveal, such as the off-colour comments on the UK Riots, or the gashing praise heaped on War Criminal Gordon Brown, etc.

    The latest telling action was the recent thrashing of two whole threads on the pretext of alleged Holocaust denial comments; ignoring the hypocritical sensitivity to apparent/imaginary racism towards Jews as compared to frequent flagrant racism towards Moslems, that Craig chose to believe in the validity of the allegations from the usual ant-Semitic slurring Establishment Trolls, is typically indicative. That he chose to disrespect the Posters who had posted their comments in good faith, by deleting over one thousand comments, because he couldn’t be bothered to do a simple Ctrl-F search on a Poster’s name, is also highly telling, especially when you realize that on both these two threads the Establishment Trolls, had been forced to retreat to the point that for the first time in a very long time, the comments were free flowing, intelligent & constructive, a pleasure to read for a change. Of course all that changed as soon as Craig had deleted those threads, as there was a deluge of gloating trolls, encouraged by the fact that Craig had once again shown that he has more in common with them, than with any despised Lefty Poster.

  • John Goss

    A Node, yes to Peter Howson. More artists and prize-winning writers should protest against our deplorable government war-making. Dramatic works.

    But the problem gets worse as now Theresa May is just about to announce new measures not just against extremists but any organisation that government considers to be dangerous. We will end up as bad as the United States which has one of the biggest prison population per capita in the world.

    Fema prisons have been built at a rate of knots in the US as it moves towards a prison factory slave-system. They pick vagrants up and imprison them to take them off the streets. Then they turn them into slaves. When (if) their term is served they are released. They cannot get a job because they’ve been in prison. They end up on the streets. It is a vicious circle but works well for the slave owners. They got the idea from the House of Said.

    Theresa May and David Cameron are trying to catch up.

  • John Goss

    “CI let me know”

    I started to write “Can you let me know . . .” I highlighted the ‘C’ and thought I had replaced it with ‘I’ but clearly it did not delete the ‘C’. I’ve had lots of similar weird idiosyncrasies like this using Windows 8.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    NO TAP

    But the people of Salento, the tourist area located in San Foca, disagree with the brilliant bla-bla of Tony Blair and other public relations VIPs promoting TAP, such as the former German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher and the former chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland.

    Many people actively oppose the project, along with most of the local mayors and the President of the Region Nichi Vendola. A “No TAP” committee is fighting a daily battle against the pipeline, which can count on the support of the majority of the Italian media. They have two types of objections, an ecological and an economic one. The first objection concerns the environmental damage that the new structure will cause in an unspoilt area with secular olive trees and a unique wildlife, that lives mainly from tourism. The second objection concerns the futility of such a huge project in this period of economic crisis without end.

    (Google Translate, lightly edited)

    This refers to the deal stitched up by Blair and others in Azerbaijan earlier this year, a pipeline transporting Caspian gas to the EU via Italy. Blair is in charge of spinning the project to the locals who will be affected by the globalist plan. Or at least to Renzi, who will not need much persuasion. The only thing that’s likely to get Blair to set foot in Puglia is a free holiday in a mansion.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    For ‘secular’, above, read ‘centuries-old’ Though no doubt they’re mostly Catholic…

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Macky..hmmmmm. Food for thought there. While I can certainly see the sense in not being associated with antisemitic holocaust-deniers, it’s perhaps telling that that is the only deprecated opinion here. And that genuine commentary is allowed to be swamped by diversions, squabbles and general bollocks.

    But I’m unwilling to attribute to malice what can readily be explained by the sheer bloody boredom of picking through hundreds of comments on a regular basis, in order to weed out the crap, added to the screaming frustration of having to deal with the inevitable complaints of the deleted.

    A largely unmoderated forum can work pretty well – the trolls are part of the scenery, and if you don’t like the scenery, bugger off to the Lake District. Point being, it’s a forum , with several open threads on different topics, and ideally a slum thread to which the most obnoxious abuse can be transferred. I think this site would work better as blog (locked, CM-only thread) +open forum than as blog+comments.

  • Anon1


    “Increasing problems for “Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (sic)” are not only the mounting ridicule from the other 99.7% of their profession but the incompatibility of their theory with more recent developments in the “Truth” movement. Principally the increasingly popular “No Planes” theories involving “mini nukes” or ray guns fired from space.”

    I believe we have at least one proponent of “No Planes” nuclear theory on this very site…

    Step forward, Tony M.

    Tony’s only deviation from the theory is that the nukes weren’t “mini”. Mini-nukes “wouldn’t have rattled the chandeliers”. No, these were “150 kiloton BIG nukes”.

    As for the planes, all the winesses were duped and the evidence faked. The planes were, in fact, holograms.

  • fred

    “I think you are talking out of your backside Fred, and you can take your Labour poster down, because people now understand that politics comes from us, not party politicians who delivered jack shit. ”

    I speak the facts. We had a referendum to find out. The majority of Scots voted No.

    Nationalists now trying to welch on the deal and wriggle out of it alters nothing.

  • Anon1

    I expect Node will be along shortly to drill me with the following questions:

    Are you saying that no government has ever lied to the people?
    Are you saying that there has never been a conspiracy?
    Are you saying that nuclear weapons do not exist?
    Are you saying that technology does not exist to place these weapons under buildings?


  • John Goss

    FEMA concetrations camps have been a reality for some time in the United States. David Cameron and Theresa May (who so love the States they do everything bid by them) are introducing new laws to make illegal for people and organisations for whatever reason they choose. Unless something is done to prevent it this is what’s coming our way.

    “This is almost like the 1940′s rounding up of the undesirables happening right before our very eyes. The only thing different is that this is the United States and not Germany.”

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node


    Are you saying that you accept the official explanation of 911 : that two planes caused three skyscrapers to collapse into their own footprints?

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