Nationalisation Without Compensation 1600


When slavery was abolished in the British Empire, taxpayers paid huge sums in compensation to slave owners for the loss of their “property”. No compensation was ever paid to the slaves for the loss of their freedom.

The problem with that approach is, of course, that the state did not take into account that the “property” of which it was relieving the landowners was acquired as part of an inhuman and immoral situation.

I was considering the same question in relation to the constitutional moves of South Africa to redistribute land without compensation. It seems to me this is plainly morally justified. The only question marks I can see are of practicality, in terms of making sure those taking over the land are trained to keep it properly in production, and that redistribution is not corrupt. Those are not insuperable problems, and I support the South African government in its endeavours.

But I wish to apply the same principle, of the state acting to right historic injustice on behalf of the people, much more widely and in the UK.

I apply precisely the same argument to the great landed estates, particularly but not only in Scotland. I believe the fundamental answer to land reform is confiscation by the state of large estates, and that social justice can never be redressed by the taxpayer simply handing over money to the ultra-wealthy. We have already been doing far too much of that through the bankers’ bailouts.

I have no moral qualms at all about simply taking back the land, whether it be from the Dukes of Sutherland, Buccleuch and Atholl, from a Dutch businessman or from a sheikh. In England the Grosvenor estate, the lands of the Duchy of Cornwall, and similar holdings could be confiscated. I do not see this as harm to the “owners”. Let them work for a living, or try their luck with the benefits claim system. Residential properties in large estates might become council homes, while tenants of commercial properties might pay rents to the council rather than to the Duke of Westminster, and the council use a large portion of that money for homebuilding.

Agricultural land from vast estates might perhaps best be given to the tenant farmers who have rented it. In the Highland glens, there are vast tracts which were once cattle rearing and arable. We have been lied to for generations that these are only fit for moorland for grouse and deer hunting – despite the fact that they are studded with the croft foundations of the cleared populations they once supported, who reared cattle and grew crops. These unfarmed lands should be given free to communities to develop; with assistance for the expensive task of bringing them back into production. That assistance would be a better use of state money than paying “compensation” to the ultra-wealthy.

But it is not only land. I favour nationalisation without compensation of all PFI projects, and of all railways and utilities. The owners have milked the public and the taxpayer far too long. Any business investment carries risk, including political risk. If you misjudge the political risk, your business fails. These businesses have made a misjudgement of political risk in the view they could profiteer, that it is possible to rip off the people forever without blowback. That is a business miscalculation, and such businesses deserve to fail.

The Labour Party’s renationalisation proposals have been carefully calculated within the existing framework of “legitimate” property rights. Therefore John McDonnell has framed rail nationalisation in terms of the expiration of franchises, and talked of PFI projects in terms of buyouts. I reject this approach in favour of the more radical approach of confiscation.

Yes, I realise that some percentage of the investments removed will belong to pension funds and insurance companies and even foreign states, and to small investors. Still more will belong to hedge funds and plutocrats, and the stake of ordinary people in wealth through pension funds had been – deliberately – tumbling for two decades. The less wealthy individuals with a stake in pension funds will lose a little, but gain from the wider public good, and for them there might be a compensation mechanism.

I also realise the markets will not like confiscation, and there will be an increase in bond yields; but this will pass. There is no measure to redress social injustice the markets will like. The City of London is our enemy and will naturally attempt to resist or punish any attack on its continued ability to be the conduit for the hoovering dry of the national wealth.

The fact is, that the extreme injustice and inequalities of society have now become so very glaring that there is no way to make any impression on wealth disparity without changes that may be rightly considered revolutionary. Either we are content to live in a society where the wealthiest one per cent will within two decades own ninety per cent of all wealth in the UK and the rest of us be helots, or we make changes to the fabric of the economy and government which are truly radical.

The economic system has tilted beyond correction by tinkering.

What is immorally owned ought not to be compensated on expropriation by the community.

As with the owners of slaves, the owners of “property” would be likely to attempt to defend their riches through the courts. This is where the doctrine of the sovereignty of parliament might for once be put to good rather than evil use, in passing law making such state confiscation unequivocally legal. Both the UK and Scotland appear set for at least a period outside the EU; I cannot think of a better use for any window of legal autonomy.

I am fully aware that I am proposing very radical measures very unlikely to be adopted by the current political Establishment. But the most telling fact of recent western society, itself a natural and predictable result of that galloping wealth inequality, is that the political Establishment has its coat on a very shoogly peg.


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  • Tony_0pmoc

    The can of worms is wide open for anyone who wants to look, but no one in a position to do anything about it dare, because, as has been made blatantly clear, ““they” of the Deep State “have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” It’s probably been this way since at least 1963, with President John F. Kennedy, the first most notable victim. The only difference now is that this abhorrent evil, is increasingly obvious, to those who have not been brainwashed by it, to look the other way. It is so widespread now, that there seems no solutions. The evil will ultimately eat itself, and probably take most of the human race with it.

    Ray McGovern, who is in a position to know more about this than most, just spells out some of the details, but almost everything he writes about has been in the public domain for years. The Americans are far more open than the British, who have traditionally been much more effective at hiding their dirty linen, except in the last year or so. Recently they have appeared increasingly silly. with the most ridiculous concocted propaganda. I sometimes wonder if they are doing it on purpose to expose those in control. Though that is probably assuming too much intelligence.

    Tony

    “Trump’s Timidity is Letting Comey Off the Hook”

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50719.htm

    Extract

    “The dominant mainstream media narrative about Russia-gate — ignoring FBI-gate — will hop happily into the new year. And no congressional “oversight” committee will dare step up to its constitutional duty, despite a plethora of documentary evidence on FBI-gate. And why? Largely because “they” of the Deep State “have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

    Most consequential of all, any significant improvement in relations with Russia will remain stymied. And the MICIMATT (Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think Tank) complex, with its Deep-State enforcer, will have won yet another round. Merry Christmas.”

    • Vivian O'Blivion

      McGovern’s thesis (as I understand it) is that all threads of the Russia – Trump collusion narrative are tainted by Deep State manipulation.
      Most threads don’t withstand close inspection. Popadopoulos for example stinks of Deep State insurance policy against an eventual Trump victory. The claimed hacking provenance of the DNC e-mails also stinks. The claimed Deep State taint is less obvious in other collusion threads.
      Without seeing the sealed Court deposition do we really know that the Steele dossier was the sole “evidence” used to obtain the wiretap warrant on Carter Page?
      The Trumpian claim of Deep State manipulation in the Trump Tower meeting is pretty tenuous. Something to do with Natalia Veselnitskaya having her original visa application rejected and a sinister plot to overrule the decision by a secret cabal of Democrat registered agents.
      Just ’cause most of the threads are contaminated don’t mean Trump is clean. The notion that Rodger Stone really had no (secret) role in the Trump campaign stretches credulity.

      • Dungroanin

        If Trump is clean?
        Viv he is certainly no dirtier than the stinking dynastic gathering to bury the great white chief the other day. I bet he would have happily stayed away as he did from the old harpeys send off a few months ago, if he hadn’t been potus.

        It will be hillarious – if they are still alive to see the Clintons and Obamas attending Trumps state funeral!

        When he pulls off the deal with China and Russia and doesn’t invade Venezuela or bomb the shit out of N Korea or Iran as he hasn’t in Syria, they will all. E rushing to build his hotels and golf courses !

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Ray McGovern started working for the CIA just when the deep state was setting up the communists in Cuba and Russia as the assassins of JFK, and he stayed on despite its cover up of its mistakes until 1990 when the Agency was planning to DU Saddam’s Iraq.

        No friendship of his is going to rub out his evil spots.

        • lysias

          McGovern was in the CIA’s Directorate of Analysis. The crimes were committed by the Directorate of Operations.

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            What a pathetic excuse, making out the analysts never learn anything seriously covert about operations, and can stay on until they drop dead. I was an analyst in the CIC, and even denounced it while I was still a draftee in the Army during the Korean War.

            My brother-in-law stopped writing favorable articles of the Agency for The Reporter magazine before it failed, and even denounced before he died High Executioner DCI Richard Helms.

            Are you still working for some covert agency?

    • nevermind

      Merry Brexmas to you too Tony. That this country seems to be welded to the navel of the US makes all its functions vulnerable to manipulation, but the status quo merchants probably can do ‘secret’ much better than the new occupiers of America.
      It was quiet a surprise to meet two readers of Craig’s blog at the South Norfolk Labour Brexmas party. His views are getting read by many and it should fill his heart with pride.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Oh, Jesus, today is the 77th anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.,

    Will the media shower us with more bullshit about how Pappy Bush won the war in the Pacific?

  • Sharp Ears

    Video: BBC R4’s new depths – govt chaos is because BOTH parties ‘broken’
    07/12/2018

    Radio 4’s audience is in freefall

    BBC Radio 4’s Today programme has been shedding listeners at an astonishing rate – over 800,000 in just a year. A hint as to why might have been on display earlier this week.

    Discussing the Tory government’s crisis on Wednesday a commentator – unchallenged by anyone on the programme – told what’s left of its audience that a crisis was taking place, not because of the Tories’ incompetence and dishonesty or because Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder in refusing to give Theresa May an escape route or easy target, but because ‘both parties are broken‘:

    Labour has the largest membership of any political party in Europe. It surged during last year’s general election from twenty-five points behind in polls to within a whisker of government and has grown stronger still. And under Jeremy Corbyn it has brought the government to collapse and disarray.

    Yet according to the BBC this week, it’s ‘broken’ – and the government crisis has simply happened as a consequence of Labour’s dysfunction as well as that of the Tories.

    https://skwawkbox.org/2018/12/07/video-bbc-r4s-new-depths-govt-chaos-is-because-both-parties-broken/

    On the video, BBC trustie John Humphreys is talking to a previous BBC trustie, Jim Naughtie, who makes that statement..

    • Molloy

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      SE — great stuff, keep it coming.

      “The best propaganda is that which, as it were, works invisibly, penetrates the whole of life without the public having any knowledge of the propagandistic initiative.” (Goebbels)

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    • Tom

      This is the narrative being peddled by the Guardian too. Look at how both Ian Jack and Marina ‘Jekyll and’ Hyde manage to slip in snide comments about Corbyn in their articles today, so that the plebs don’t get any ideas about deposing their rulers.

  • Loony

    who are the Dukes of Sutherland, Atholl and Buccleuch? Who is the unnamed Dutch businessman or the un-named Sheikh?

    Who will think too deeply or raise strenuous objections to confiscating wealth from unknown people with unknown sources of wealth?

    The real question is: Do you want to confiscate the Scottish landholdings of Bob Dylan? Do you want to force Bob Dylan to rely on state benefits? If so why? Who has Bob Dylan ever stolen money from?

    What kind of nasty, spiteful, vicious and vindictive person wants to tip Bob Dylan into penury for no other reason than he has more money than you. How many people are likely to sign up to the revolution that makes Bob Dylan an enemy of the people?

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Last I knew was that Dylan had 180,000,000 pounds. Think he could spare a few to right an injustice created by laws regarding the registration of property, and the payment of debts.

    • Dungroanin

      Dylan, like any non-scientific winner of a nobled prize is suspect DS stooge!

      That is the hard rain of truth my friend hope it doesn’t short circuit your brain.

      • Loony

        So who has bob Dylan stolen money from?

        Another absentee Scottish landowner is Paul McCartney. Has he stolen money? If so from whom and should his land be seized without compensation?

        If you want the revolution to gain traction then you need to explain to the people exactly how McCartney and Dylan are enemies of the people and exactly how their activities have exploited and impoverished the masses.

        Any failure to identify both the crimes and the victims of McCartney and Dylan may lead sane people to conclude that you and your ilk and terminally stupid.

        • Trowbridge H. Ford

          When it is you, Loony, who is terminally stupid. There are other consequences in the world besides crimes.

          • Loony

            Have you just lifted that statement from the great big book of Everyday Anarchism?

            Why do you imagine we have a legal system? How do you think you would get by absent the rule of law? You think you are more clever, more classless and free than Robespierre? Didn’t work out too well for him did it?

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            No, never even heard of it. Things worked out well for us when we made incredible profits on selling our row house because of a family need outside of Stockholm, and I am doing nicely with Uncle Sam having to pay for the chemo and radiation to cure my cancer.

          • Loony

            So now we are getting closer to an answer.

            Bob Dylan deserves to have his land confiscated without compensation because he committed the crime of being born Zimmerman.

            Just say it. You know you want to.

          • Molloy

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            Loony, as you know.

            Dylan. McCartney. Major celeb tax dodger. . . . . . become complicit in crimes perpetrated by the DS / 0.1% against the public; and against ‘non-compliant’ States.

            Simply taking the pi$$. If you buy a property from a criminal you become complicit.

            ¡No pasarán!

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          • Ken Kenn

            I’m afraid it’s worse than that for Loony.

            It’s the politics of envy.

            Personally I’m not interested in pop stars – yes they are loaded but the big fish are getting away with murder on British offshore islands and others. McCartney et al are small fish and earn over 80k so they should pay their tax like ordinary people.

            Maybe something to do with the Brexit vote for the ‘anti- establishment ‘ toffs too.

            Prince Charles has a few trees in Scotland I hear.

            Now he’s really loaded.

        • Jams O'Donnell

          You are certainly doing your best to live up to your pen name. There is no place in a truly democratic society, which aims at fairness for the mass of the population, for large landowners, who can use huge swaths of the country as their private garden/fiefdom. Bringing Dylan or the odious McCartney into the picture is just a meaningless straw man.

          • Tony_0pmoc

            Jams O’Donnell,

            I have never seen Bob Dylan, but he has wriiten some brilliant songs, some of which he gave to Jimi Hendrix, who I have also never seen.

            However, I have seen Paul McCartney very briefly when he came on as the guest of Neil Young in Hyde Park a few years ago.

            I heve seen Neil Young, many times since I was 24 and there is so much more. Now, I’m an old man like him

            Neil Young and Bob Dylan are on at Hyde Park Next Year in London.

            You can accuse them of whatever you like. They are still up for it, and still playing their music, their beautiful emotional songs and their poetry live. So maybe they are rich and famous.

            No one does that because of money. They can’t take it with them.

            They do it because they want to.

            They have a gift and want to inspire people.

            Their music is about Love & Peace, not about war

            You can go for free if you are skint. Hyde Park is a massive place, and they have the most enormous TV screens and speaker systems, that extend way beyond the fences and the gates, though admittedly last time I did pay and got close to the front

            https://www.hydepark-tickets.co.uk/bob-dylan-neil-young/

            ” Neil Young – Old Man (Live at the BBC 1971)”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_LZ8LKM_vs

            Tony

          • Deb O'Nair

            In the 80s Bob Dylan was invited to Dave Stewart’s multi-million pound home studio in the Crouch End area. Unfortunately there was a slight mix up with the address and the taxi dropped him at an unassuming terrace house on a quiet suburban road. Dylan rang the door bell and a middle aged lady answered. Dylan asked if Dave was there, being the name of her husband she replied that he was due back any minute and invited him in for a cup of tea. When Dave turned up he couldn’t believe his eyes because he was a life-long Dylan fan. Dylan being confused explained that he was supposed to be meeting Dave Stewart. Fortunately the Dave he was talking to knew where Dave Stewart lived so after he finished his tea Dave drove him there. When a puzzled Dave Stewart later asked Dylan who he thought the lady was when she answered the door Dylan mumbled that he thought it was his mum. Silly old sod.

    • SA

      Loony
      As usual with you this is a sort of reduction ad absurdism. You are bringing in individuals into an argument to cloud the issue. The issue is simply one of a system that defines and makes laws so that a very small number of people become extremely rich and then continue to get richer. This is all of course through ‘legal’ activities because the ruling class has decided they are legal and because they set the criteria in an arbitrary way to suit capitalism. For example setting up tax havens, kickbacks and tax breaks and so on in order to create and maintain the system. When caught out occasionally the PTB feign outrage as if they did not know, and pretend to change the law. But the first commandment of such organised state thievery is ‘thou shall not get caught’.
      Your concern for Bob Dylan is touching but surely has to be toned down by your equal compassion for billions who are unfortunate enough to only be able to exist day to day. And they do so because of a system that allows one person, whatever they have done, to accumulate millions and billions. Now if you cannot understand this basic concept of justice then I am sure you will continue to defend super rich individuals with a false sense of injustice done to them.

  • Tony M

    @ Andyoldlabour – December 7, 2018 at 08:52
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/12/nationalisation-without-compensation/comment-page-7/#comment-807779

    “When I say “interfere”, I really mean, that they insist that austerity measures are imposed, which affects 90% of the population, but has the most serious and destructive effects on the poorest in society.”

    Don’t think I’m picking on you, it’s just that you’re one of the few this far down thread making such points.

    What you describe has an exact parallel with ye Olde Labour’s massive loan from the IMF in 1975, which they simply didn’t need to seek or succumb to enticements; a loan didn’t need and knew they didn’t need as by then already considerable oil revenues were pouring into the exchequer from the North Sea (had been growing steadily since around 1969) and were imminently set to expand exponentially over the coming next few years as steady investment by the state, by the private sector and sometimes jointly, was about to produce a cast-ron guaranteed manna from heaven bonanza of wealth.

    Instead they took a gigantic international loan at interest from their banker cronies, with mandatory austerity conditions; were forced to implement swingeing cuts in services, enact a long and grim public-sector pay freeze affecting disproportionately the lowest paid; ineptly impose non-binding pay-restraint on the private sector -which did not even offset inflation as essential fuel, food and housing costs again disproportionately affecting the poorest, spiralled upwards. All culminating in the needless Winter of Discontent. Additionally they were forced by the IMF to sell off, i.e. privatise BP, selling-off a great chunk at knock-down greatly undervalued prices to the City sharks, of a business which had seen considerable capital investment of taxpayers’ funds, the huge rewards from which would have accrued to the public purse for decades. They also set a rigid timetable for the further sell-off for the remainder of the BP business, in two further lots in 1980 and 1987, giving a huge immediate financial boost to the new Tory government of City-placed permanent fixtures Howe and Lawson, with Thatcher as figurehead.

    This whole saga arose because Labour: Callaghan, Healey and the other scumbags, played down as explained in the McCrone Report, for political purposes: suppression of Scottish Nationalism, the fact that all through the seventies they were rolling in an embarassment of government wealth which they decided to deny and to hide. They took on that loan needlessly with all the harmful conditions the IMF mandated that came with it, without argument, in order to falsely plead poverty and dire necessity to the country. They put the people through that hell and it consequently put them out of power for a generation and gave the Tories and press infinite political ammunition to assail them with cries of ‘IMF’, ‘bankruptcy’, ‘Winter of Discontent’ and ‘financial ineptitude’ which still send them scurrying for cover. All that self-inflicted pain, for no earthly purpose than short-term party political advantage in Scotland whilst stealthily stealing its wealth, and for longer-term devious unionist ends they shared with the Tories. When Thatcher & Co. came to power and found the books so stupendously healthily in the black, and knowing why, she had Labour over a barrel and from atop that mountain of loot, set about the greatest upwards redistribution of wealth ever known and a fire sale liquidation of all other state assets like some pillaging conquering warlord due the spoils of war.

    That’s your Old Labour, doing exactly what you berate the EU, IMF, ECB and friends for doing now.

    • Dungroanin

      Good history TonyM, but Callaghan/Healy were the ones installed after Wilson’s putsch. It was their job to bring the post war social democratic covenant with the british people to an end, or at least the begining of the end. They were not so much old Labour, like Foot, but moles like Owen and SDP1, and later neolibs like NuLabInc.

      Callaghan and Healey bought into the Chicago school and monetarism. They were ready to privatise it all after Bretton Woods and usher in the banking overlords.

      Hard to believe? As an example, the whole Right To Buy was set in motion under them – or do you think the civil service just cobbled a plan together for Maggie on the hoof?

      The fixed scottish indyref had to happen before the fixed brexit referendum. Imagine if it had been allowed to happen the other way round!

      My money is still on a stitch up of a ‘crisis’ govt formed by suddenly ‘independent’ MP’s – so called centrists, annointed by every oily neocon/lib grandee as a compromise ‘turdway’ and parliamentry sovereignty – anything except a GE and the Corbynites and their plan to re-affirm that great post war social democratic covenant.

      • Andyoldlabour

        @Dungroanin,

        Exactly right, Callaghan and Healey had very little in common with real Labour values, and in fact Denis Healey was one of the founder members of the Bilderburg Group which promoted “Atlanticism”, intended to bring the US and Europe closer together.
        That is the precise moment in recent history when Labour ceased to represent the worker or common men and women.

    • Paul Greenwood

      Labour were played in 1976 just as in 1931. Funny how they always fall into the same trap just as did Gordon Brown who was such a fan of Jimmy Maxton yet played the Philip Snowden role beautifully. All it needed for Brown was Shriti Vadera and his friends from Goldman Sachs and maybe Jeremy Heywood with Morgan Stanley in his sails or perhaps even Ron Cohen. As for 1976, Wilson was worried about metal degeneration like his mother – after all he died from Alzheimer’s and colon cancer. The fact that Callaghan was a creature of the Unions ever since he sold out Barbara Castle over “In Place of Strife” was key to his succeeding Wilson in a government brought to power on the 3-Day Week. Healey was simply there to hold the party together so its right wing did not float off. He had to use the IMF Team – was it under Derek Maugham (ex-UK Treasury) to impose Cabinet discipline on Wedgwood Benn.

      Fact is UK did not handle the OPEC situation well in 1973 and Heath let rip with a weak Chancellor Anthony Barber – Labour needed to hold things together with 23% wage inflation but could not especially after Iranian Revolution and oil price increases 1978. With a menace like Jack Jones around and his fellow Communists Mick McGahey and Lawrence Daly – the situation was toxic. No wonder Callaghan jumped onto his son-in-law’s Times nostrums of Monetarism and hocus-pocus. If Callaghan had used the Army to strike break the T&GWU imbecilities in Liverpool he might have saved his government.

    • Andyoldlabour

      @Tony M,

      Your idea of “Old Labour” is a lot different to mine. I consider Wilson, Atlee and Nye Bevan to be “Old Labour”.

        • Molloy

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          All of youse. . . . why squabble about fake democratic institutions?

          Fairness? Social Justice? Of course.

          Fake democracy, why waste one’s energy?

          ¡No pasarán!

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    • nevermind

      This Conservative cabal now in power for 8 years, has borrowed 800bn, more than any other party borrowed for over 30 years, just to keep some relevance here.

    • nevermind

      John, the petition prompts you to finish your signing it via FB. When you click on it it does not work for me and the other option demands that you save your log in password with FB, something I will never do.
      Is change.org owned by FB?

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Of course, Julian Assange is a jounalist who permitted the publication of incorrect news i. e., the unredacted Afghan File in The Guardian which resorted in the murders of hacker Gareth Williams, his associate Gudrun Loftus et al.

    Assange will never be free of threats.

    • Molloy

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      THF — surely a slip and not deliberate!

      “incorrect news. . .”

      By this in fact you actually mean DS unapproved, suppressed Truth from Assange. . .

      . . . . (as opposed to DS psyops).

      No need to confirm, my friend.

      .

  • N_

    This weekend the French gendarmes will patrol central Paris using Berliet VXB-170 armoured vehicles mounted with machine guns.

    The bourgeoisie are shitting themselves. Things may actually bode well.

    This is not the “Extinction Rebellion” twats, nor the right-wing “fuel protestors” of Britain in 2000. Sure some Poujadists will be out there. But the hell with them. The momentum is against them. This is the real thing: people of all ethnic groups comprising an insurgent popular movement that is pushing towards a full-scale uprising.

    In Britain most people are highly deferential. They are scared to form opinions for themselves. Even the lefties come across as patronising, many speaking with posh accents and diction that communicate contempt for the lower orders – or when that’s not the case, coming across like social workers or charity officials. There hasn’t been a genuine popular contestational movement in Britain for a very long time, since 1990 maybe. Even now, even after much of what was good about the city of Paris has been destroyed, there is still a rebellious spirit in that great city. This is why the shitbag Macron, the aspiring Monsieur Put(a)in, had to call the book he wrote before last year’s two elections “Revolution”. Meaningless, you might say. But look at it. This is what many people want: revolution. Bye bye Fifth Republic. Meanwhile, in Britain practically everyone calls the country “the UK” because they think the monarchy is as natural as the mountains.

    “Why the gendarmes? What happened to the CRS riot police?” I hear some aging 1968ers ask. Good question. But I think the confrontation may already be beyond the point where the ruling scum are deploying the CRS as the crucial operational force on their side of the barricades. The gendarmes are military – they are part of the army. These armoured vehicles have been deployed in places such as Kosovo and the Ivory Coast. Presumably so have the units that will be operating them in Paris. Things may really be moving towards civil war, even if journalists are saying so in the media, based on any old crap they say on Instagram. People have already been killed in the current confrontations.

    In the days to come, fuck Brexit. Fuck Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn, the House of Commons, the BBC, and Mr Speaker. Events in France are far more important.

    There are probably some state manipulators in the “gilets jaunes” structure. To get a handle on it, without much information, consider that it’s good to be sceptical of those who push “structurelessness” from within their own prestige structures. But there’s another consideration too: revolutionary movements explode structures and find their own structures dynamically. You can’t have a revolutionary structure outside of a revolution. Whilst I am quite sure that the RG haven’t been sitting on their hands, things may soon be FAR outside of their control, and outside of any political group’s control too. That’s precisely what we want.

    I suspect that “fuel issues” may have been introduced by the state in order to distract and numb and squelch the growing contestational dynamic. Well they don’t seem to have been successful.

    Is Paris about to rise again?

    I was there in ’86 when there were more CRS patrolling Paris than at any time since ’68. The patrols comprised 4-man teams in protective body gear, toting submachine guns. In ’68 itself, the government put army tanks on the Boulevard Périphérique, the Paris ring road, ready to retake the city by force. As Marx put it, “liberty, equality, fraternity” would have been replaced with “infantry, cavalry, artillery”.

    Haussman’s boulevard system in Paris was all about facilitating the crushing of an insurgent population using the army, after the numerous uprisings that had taken place in Paris in 1848 and before then. The main boulevards are military avenues. The Périphérique encircles Paris and it began construction in 1958. (It has a much smaller radius than the M25, for those who aren’t familiar with it). It is all military. It is all about smashing an insurgent population. Fear of an uprising is why the French bourgeoisie didn’t even bother defending Paris in 1940. They were far more scared of another Paris Commune than they were of German occupation.

    It was really great to see “Marianne” get smashed under the Arc de Triomphe. Well done, brothers and sisters – you are definitely acting in the same spirit that inspired the words of the finest revolutionary song from May 1968.

    The words are here:

    “La tour Eiffel a chaud aux pieds,
    L’Arc de triomphe est renversé,
    La place Vendôme n’est que fumée,
    Le Panthéon s’est dissipé,
    Il est cinq heures.
    Paris s’éveille.”

    Macron has been putting himself forward as a male equivalent of Marianne ever since France won the World Cup. Watch how he behaved that day and it was obvious.

    Marine Le Pen tried to be Marianne too, during the presidential election campaign – that was clear in the iconography. Where is she now? She is practically forgotten. But if the insurgent movement is defeated, she and her niece will be back. For the moment, things are gelling around the question “Are you with the insurgents, or are you with the state?” Again, that’s precisely what we want.

    In May 1968 the Paris Stock Exchange – the Bourse – unfortunately suffered only superficial damage. This time?

    • laguerre

      Personally, I think the crisis is past its peak in France. Not many are going to come out to demonstrate alongside the thousand or so violent hard-right casseurs who did all the damage last Saturday. Listening to French TV today, I heard quite a few reservations from mainstream gilets jaunes. Of course Macron has to put a lot of force on the streets, to prevent things getting out of hand. But I suspect they won’t be needed.

      • Ken Kenn

        Is it because the CGT are poking around?

        They have offered to ‘ police ‘ the Paris demo tomorrow to protect against the agent provocateurs but I suspect it’s also to protect the demonstrators from the police.

        89000 agents of the State across France is a big figure.

        Funny how when the left becomes involved that the media wants to call it all off.

        I’ll be watching carefully tomorrow on French TV.

        Macron has only cancelled the policy – he has not dropped the idea like France’s PM.

      • SA

        Laguerre
        It is all very well to say all this. The reason for this uprising is quite clear. France has become transformed into a very expensive place to live in. Goods and artisan services cost much more than they do in U.K. Of course all of this cost of living rise was like boiling a frog, unnoticed and slow but the sudden rise of fuel prices made the frog leap out before being boiled and I am not sure that just blaming right wing agitators for the violence is enough. Moreover putting armoured vehicles in the streets of your metropolis is the stuff third world dictators and sufferers of colour revolutions do.

      • N_

        @lagueree – We shall see, but demonstrators so far in Paris, Marseilles and elsewhere have by no means all been hard-right. That is shown by their ethnic mix and also other information I have had. There is no doubt that the far right would like an escalation to the point where Macron is forced to resign, but so would many other people. Perhaps there are shades of the trouble of 6 Feb 1934. I remain optimistic, and were I in Paris I would certainly be out on the street this weekend.

    • giyane

      N_

      The philosophy of the neo-cons, amongst whom I place Macron, is that they will manage their own opposition in order to appease the real opposition. Gilet jaunes, (the kit cost me 60 quid at a petrol station near the Chunnell ) has got to be another Soros, government, false-flag to raise the status of the little Zionist in the eyes of the French people.

      In other words I am sorry to say I disagree with your argument that the gilet jaunes are important. Macron might have to change the law to stop Brits being forced into buying the bloody things. His moped Romeo predecessor had a wave of disgusting Islamist terror catastrophes happen in order to raise his popularity as an active neo-con interferer in the Middle East. The fake weapons in the Paris attack were made in Bulgaria, NATO’s little arms factories, able to supply cheap arms to NATO’s Fake Nazi Erdogan and the Daellywood studios of Islamic State and up the ways to Paris. Passage through EU borders with guns and bombs in the boot being easily arranged.

      From this end of the telescope, i.e. the big or Zionist end, where the Tory Zionists daily curse the anti-Zionist Jeremy Corbyn the gilet jaunes are just party clothes, put on to enflame the French public with drooling admiration for Macron. Mrs May’s entering the EU dragon’s den the other day was staged to create similar admiration for our own , racist , half-baked Prime MInister whose job it is enslave England to the Bilderbergers for the next five generations.

      In short, as Trump so frequently says, it’s all fake news, including him, creating an illusion of political ferment while they cast their recidivist conservative hate for the people into legal concrete. The centrists, donkey Williamson, retro Blairites, and despised Liberals will win, but Jeremy Corbyn isn’t a Centrist. He opposes the entire military industrial rape machine. The whole Brexit brellywood drama has been written with the sole aim of destroying him, his opposition to Zionism and his ever increasing number of us who agree with him.
      Plus cha fucking change, plus ch’est la fucking shame thing.

        • giyane

          SA Come on boys I was only joking, that maybe one might be arrested by the French police if one was carrying one of these things in the car. The government knows who they can use for violence, who they can hire, who they can bribe, who will keep quiet and who will unfortunately blag.
          I envisage a scenario in which a vast army of undercover operatives with day jobs cannot be deployed in the current war-zone in Syria, so they and their commanders are all available to create a massive false-flag operation in Paris. It distracts from the utter embarrassment of Syria by which NATO forces are contained by Russia’s superior military and surveillance. It continues the neo-con tradition of Gladio foaming at the mouth insanity. If you can’t pull the wool over people’s eyes abroad, at least you should be able to hoodwink old ladies in Kent.

          Who do you think you are kidding M. Macron
          If You Think We’re On The Run?
          We Are The Boys Who Will Stop Your Little Game
          We Are The Boys Who Will Make You Think Again
          ‘Cause Who Do You Think You Are Kidding M. Macron
          If You Think Old England’s Done?

  • nevermind

    oh yes, we are reveling in the past,. the two party calamity and utter self inflicted chaos by some self servers who could not contemplate loosing voters support and sink into obscurity/city management/banking jobs….
    There is nothing worth for them to not getting elected, that is why this ancient disproportional voting system is so riddled with fraud and manipulative events even the toothless EC can’t do anything about, apart from pointing it out.

    To say Labour is broken when it was made spineless and Tory like under Blair, is wrong. The Conservatives are split at the heart of their party, but Labour has had the timidity to entertain a rebellious lot that just can’t stop siding with Tory policies and resolve, Labour has been high jacked by these characters and the sooner the membership deselects them, the better.

    Tyhe Labour party should now formulate a guaranteed action for their next GE manifesto, which is to change the electoral system for4 all elections to a fair proportional one, AMS or STV should suffice. And they should do it by law, not with a referendum that costs millions to carry out and is open to the same self servers manipulative input as the last one.
    Any MP that is not happy with providing a fairer more proportional voting system should now speak up.

    Oh go on then Jack Straw, you make a start since your dynasty politics mimmicks that of the Kinnocks and Blairs, and your -past seat you held on to, by the most shady manipulation In Blackburn and Darwen, was the most dirtiest ever, even the EC daren’t to speak up then.
    Both main parties have cheated to keep themselves in power over past election contests and it is only a fairer system that would empower people to exchange these so called ‘representatives’. Serving their people has never come into it and ideologies have gone rogue, causing the counjtry into calamitous situations we are currently facing.

    As for the Lib Dems, hardly heard of these days, who so easily agreed to become breakfast to the Tories after 6 days of speed dating, are the real Brexiteers, if they had the guts and or foresight to resign their coalition after the fearful gut reaction of Cameron to loosing Carswell to UKIP, the referendum would have never happened.

  • Republicofscotland

    The answer from the Minster for Stockpiling is just breathtaking to say the least, they haven’t got a clue.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Dr_PhilippaW/status/1070667857032286209

    I heard on LBC this morning that when David Davis met with EU bigwigs to discuss exiting the EU. On one occasion he brought a KitKat biscuit to the table whilst his EU counterparts brought a pile of documents, Davis claimed when asked said that he had it all in his head.

    • N_

      What a disgraceful answer Chris Heaton-Harris gave to Philippa Whitford’s question, amounting to “I don’t know. I don’t care. Google is good! Don’t ask things like that. Now f*** off.”

      Heaton-Harris was the chairman of What4 Ltd, his family’s fruit and veg wholesaler. Some places say “he worked in Covent Garden market” as if he was a barrow boy.

      He declared a £10K payment from billionaire David Ross, chairman of the David Ross Educational Trust, a player in the world of “academies” scams. Ross was co-founder of Carphone Warehouse and is a director of the British Olympic Association.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Now Trump has nominated William Barr to be Attorney General, the outspoken critic as Pappy Bush’s AG of previous Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh’s inquiry into Iran-Contra to protect the POTUS, his subordinates like Boyden Gray and Defense Secretary Weinberger from prosecution and getting a pardon if found guilty of anything. Looks again like Trump is a big supporter of the swamp, and will do likewise if Mueller comes up with anything.

    What a sewer!

    • lysias

      Barr the former (?) CIA man? Looks like Trump was forced to appoint an AG who would not shut down the Muller investigation.

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Recall Attorney General William Barr, a Republican administrator, wanting to shutdown Walsh’s inquiry because the statute establishing one was biased, Lawrence Walsh, a former President of the American Bar Association, was unqualified, etc., ad nauseam.

        Trump could not ask for a more loyal supporter.

  • Tony M

    Doesn’t the EU have the International Police Authority, its 3000 man (in 2009) heavily armed robocop Israelis, then stationed in Hungary for rapid deployment anywhere in Europe -where are they and how many of them are there now.? It would be as well to try engage your friendly neighbourhood riot-policeperson in conversation to find what language, if any they speak and with what accent. It’s getting to the point governments won’t trust the local police forces, but these shock-bobbies can only be in one place, one country in sufficient number at any one time.

  • Sharp Ears

    You might be interested in this Q&A ref Brexit on LBC with Iain Dale. Warning. Straw is in the team.

    1 day ago 45:33
    MP3
    Joining Iain Dale on Cross Question this week is
    Sir Nicholas Soames, Conservative MP for Mid Sussex;
    Jack Straw, Former Foreign Secretary;
    Trevor Phillips, Broadcaster & Former Chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission and
    Martin Howe QC, Leading Barrister in EU law & Chair of pro-Brexit group ‘Lawyers for Britain’.

    https://player.fm/series/cross-question-with-iain-dale/sir-nicholas-soames-jack-straw-trevor-phillips-martin-howe

    • SA

      SE
      Of course this will lead to predictable rise in fuel prices. But we should all rejoice because it is all done in the name of delaying climate change.

  • Molloy

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    For THF — Great stuff, that man.


    Trowbridge H. Ford
    December 7, 2018 at 16:41
    What a pathetic excuse, making out the analysts never learn anything seriously covert about operations, and can stay on until they drop dead. I was an analyst in the CIC, and even denounced it while I was still a draftee in the Army during the Korean War.

    My brother-in-law stopped writing favorable articles of the Agency for The Reporter magazine before it failed, and even denounced before he died High Executioner DCI Richard Helms.

    Are you still working for some covert agency?

  • Molloy

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    (THF)

    obvs, re $CIA ‘protectors’ of property and resources that belong to other people.

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  • Mac

    Totally agree about a fair land settlement for Scotland. The SNP approach is to use taxpayers money (taken mostly from working folk) to buy out rich landowners so that small parcels of land can be passed to “the community”.
    In our neck of the woods, the Earl of Annandale has benefited from this process and several acres of land around upper Annandale are now managed by a small exclusive clique. Not much fairness unfortunately. This sort of corruption puts me off the idea of independence – is this idea being pushed by opportunistic roaders and running dogs who see personal gain for themselves?

    • Molloy

      Mac — great. More on this please.

      Sounds like bent SNP virtue-signalling to me.

      Sláinte

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  • Molloy

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    Tony — thank you.

    “heavily armed robocop Israelis. . . “

    Hmmm. . . .extensive experience of pinching other people’s property. Last time I heard on here.

    Zionaz$i 5th Reich when playing away?

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  • BrianFujisan

    We will have Take back our Stolen Waters Too.

    A wee Reminder of Craig’s ‘ Stolen Seas ‘ video –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbfldSrJ-0

    And, as if the destruction of Scallop Dredging aint bad enough, Now they want to go at our Corral’s with Industrial Kelp Dredginng.. I know threre was some comments on this here a couple of months ago.. Also not forgetting that every couple of years London invites Dozens of world Navies to our waters to play games.. Then we get missiles washing up on Hebridean beaches.. Fk off.

    Illegal Scallop Dredging –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRLJC4Pf2FQ
    And here –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKqM3hXwcRs

    Kelp Concerns –

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17276007.arguments-in-favour-of-kelp-dredging-dont-add-up/?fbclid=IwAR1adKVzeDfGQtnPnA8FWFmUoU5TjXy58pMIlOyjr9AZRnsIav7uV1dWWrc

    • nevermind

      and health concerns world wide as one of the restaurant staples is found to be taking up nano plastics by the millions of particles in only a few hours.
      Fishing war? even after 8 weeks in clean water these scallops are able to flush these out. I predict that demand for fish will vane by 30% within 5-10 years
      I very much agree with the Kelp concerns and it is sad that a far eastern demand on it allows scrupulous extraction. The SNP should get a grip on that.

      • Sharp Ears

        Now polluting the air and water for the people in the SW, especially Devonport.

        ‘HMS Vanguard arrives at Devonport for a four-year £200m refit and refuelling
        Cranes that lift nuclear fuel have been halted twice amid a series of safety alerts during a £200m refit of a Royal Navy Trident submarine, it has emerged.
        The stoppages came at Devonport Dockyard’s 9 Dock, where nuclear submarine HMS Vanguard is berthed.
        Work was temporarily stopped in July 2017 and in September, said the Office for Nuclear Regulation (ONR) which is investigating the latest alerts.
        Site operator Babcock said its priority was “high safety standards”.’

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-41858872

        Poppycock from Babcock.

        [Poppycock = mid 19th century: from Dutch dialect pappekak, from pap ‘soft’ + kak ‘dung’] So true.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    If I had fcked up, like O2 did yesterday, I would have been fired. My bleeper was going off at 6:30 am. I knew something had gone wrong. I was on the case by 6:35 am. All the phones in my house, both company and private were ringing like mad, by 7:00 am.

    I knew the entire service was down, affecting – most of the UK

    I merely replied. I am working on it.

    I still had a direct connection to the servers, from the computer room ( a little spare room in my house -normally used for guests)

    I knew what the problem was, but did not know how to fix it.

    So I turned off all the phones, and went outside to my back garden and had a strong cup of coffee and a cigarette on my hammock, to think about the problem.

    The Entire Service was back by 9:00 am

    I drove into work, and arrived at around 10:15 am – Thinking I had done a completely Brilliant Job, at getting it all back and alive.

    I was frogmarched into the highest office – and demanded an explanation…

    I said to them…I have already submitted a full and costed paper to you guys, saying the system is completely overloaded. If anything goes wrong – like a hard disk dying then we are going to lose an exceedingly large amount of money. The cost to upgrade is about £100K, and we have already lost well over £1M today.

    I then changed the hard disk that had failed in one of the servers.

    I got my upgrade, and they didn’t fire me.

    I resigned a few years later.

    Standards seem to have fallen.

    Tony

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Isn’t Heather Neuert overqualified to be the US Ambassador to the UN?

    She a woman, a former reporter and she has been at the State Department since last year.

    Lucky that Steveson ever got the position. He didn’t even have eye-catching boobs and legs.

  • Deb O'Nair

    Just had to switch off the TV after hearing the latest BBC antisemitic slur/meme aimed at Corbyn.

    HIGNFY talking about PETA wishing to replace “bring home the bacon” with “bring home the bagels”. “Unless of course you’re Jeremy Corbyn” was the oh so witty, carefully scripted, retort from the presenter.

    To think people get paid licence fee money to write this shit. It is just the latest (admittedly trivial) example of what is nothing more than the destruction of political opposition to the Tory government, which the British people have to pay for under treat of prison. As such the BBC licence fee can rightly be described as a legally enforced political donation, something that was never seen in the USSR, the Third Reich or communist China.

    • Deb O'Nair

      under treat of prison. -> under threat of prison.

      Although there are many people in the UK today where having a bed to sleep in and three meals a day is a treat.

    • Ken Kenn

      The BBC is described as a Publicly Funded Broadcaster and not a State television broadcaster.

      Yet you can still be put in prison for not paying your TV licence.

      The trick is that the Corporation turn a private debt into a contempt of Court. The same trick was used
      to turn non payment of the Poll Tax into a criminall/jailable charge.

      The BBC could play the free use of intellectual property charge to the Judge but I don’t think they would get
      away with that missive these days looking at their output.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Ken Kenn December 7, 2018 at 23:11
        The BBC ‘silly born bast*rds’ have been threatening me for years.
        Once I opened the door to one of their agents, and gave him a bit of a nasty reception.
        No probs, the SBB’s keep send me threatening letters on a monthly basis.
        And I should be vorried, already?
        If they ever do get me incarcerated, don’t bring me fags (I don’t smoke, except wacky backy, if offered), but a wee drop of brandy….
        Such a thing!

      • Molloy

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        Deb and Ken — Magnificent, both.

        Psyop-Criminals Carpetbaggers Public-abusing War-Complicit Shills. All of them.

        Property (BBC) topic here, is yours and mine, not belonging to the shills who have no idea of how they are perceived; zilch re how they degrade themselves, and how they diminish humankind.
        (obvs, speaking quietly here, in stage aside!)

        D, please do not stop.

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    • Clark

      Just don’t buy a licence. I suppose if the licence enforcers can see your telly through your front window you might get prosecuted, but apart from that successful prosecution relies upon confession. Be careful if you’re doorstepped by someone doing a ‘survey’ about TV programmes you’ve watched, but you can weasel out of that by claiming you watched it at a licence holder’s house.

      Personally I don’t watch TV, so I don’t need a licence. You no longer need a licence just to own the equipment. Oh and you can still buy a “black and white” licence; don’t ask me why.

      • SA

        Clark
        You have to declare that you pay s license to access the BBC online and also to use the iPlayer. Don’t know if this is traceable or enforceable any more than accepting a cookie. Doesn’t bother me as somebody does pay for a licence in the house anyway.

        • Clark

          I don’t bother with iPlayer either. There’s so much good stuff on-line eg. Ted Talks, under far more permissive licenses, and any important BBC material ends up as ‘fair use’ clips on YouTube, precisely because it’s contentious. Thanks to the Internet and modern licenses, centralised broadcasting is on its way out.

          Paying the BBC licence fee is effectively voluntary, so I don’t understand why people harp on about it. I guess that watching BBC material is just an ingrained habit.

          • Clark

            I suppose watching iPlayer could be traceable if the private company that collects the BBC licence fee can be bothered to make the appropriate legal requests to ISPs to identify specific users associated with IP addresses. Seems pretty pointless since the BBC broadcasts the stuff into the airwaves; no control over where copies get to after that. They may as well give up trying to control distribution.

          • Molloy

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            C — Agreed.

            However, sadly for many of us, £140 is cheap price not to have sh**te interaction with bullying Crapita neo-$lib toerags. (My child could easily answer the door.)

            So, no offence to Danes, Danegeld mebbe?!

            Nauseating that that £140 is paying warmongers (complicit) for our own demise. I know!

            ¡No pasarán!

            .

    • Sharp Ears

      Wasn’t it dreadful. Several digs at Corbyn and some at Putin too. The silly Hislop giggles. A foul mouthed actor from EastEnders ‘chaired’ it. HIGNIFY has gone down the pan.

      • Molloy

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        SE — Agreed.

        His$lop has become a sad, isolated establishment shill (medieval – useful idiot court jester).

        And (voice of Mrs Doyle in Father Ted?!). . . . HIGNIFY, imho, as with TopShiteGear, always and still continues as psyops manipulation to divert public attention away from evil establishment.

        . . . . obvs, Mrs Doyle not being satirical in this instance!

        Yes, Hi$slop merely a piece of $$hite! Also the hamster and all the other one’s.

        Keep these coming please. Go on go on!

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      • Kempe

        I don’t notice you complaining about the digs at Theresa May or Michael Gove etc. Why are Corbyn and Putin sacrosanct and not to have the piss ripped out of them like any normal politician?

        • Trowbridge H. Ford

          PM Theresa May is a vile politician, having seen to the killing of hackers like Gareth Williams, Gudrun Loftus, and the totally innocent al-Hillis et sl. when she was Home Secretary, and now setting up Russians as assassins by SIS and Portion Down covert operations.

          Have always had an open mind about who does such stuff. Hold Putin responsible for the sinking of the Estonia, a very over the top effort to stop Anglo-American smuggling military booty out of the former USSR.

        • Deb O'Nair

          Saying Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic is not a joke. It is neither witty, topical or funny. It is out and out defamation and slander presented as topical humour whilst reinforcing the Tory party and right-wing media smear campaign. On the other hand May, Gove et al deserve nothing but the public’s deepest contempt.

  • Tony M

    A further wrinkle which makes it all the more galling is that they pissed away all that oil wealth but dumping it on the market at reduced prices, all through the eighties, to help bankrupt Russia. They pumped and they pumped till the wells were pumped dry, when scientists and geologists were telling them again and again that with properly managed and slower extraction, they could have had twice as much net oil production than was actually realised, from the same infrastructure investment and only slightly higher total operating costs as a direct function of the longer duration. Economic suicide kamikaze tactics perhaps best describes what these criminally insane wretches and saboteurs practised, they threw away for their belligerent warped ideology our best chance of lasting prosperity and security.

    • SA

      Tony
      It was not only to bankrupt Russia that the oil was pumped with a vengeance. Thatcher must have been the one who used North Sea oil to break the unions and to deindustrialise this country with the knowledge that this will also strengthen the future of the City of London.

  • SA

    Nevermind that the whole international financial system is based on a combination of a Ponzi scheme and scams, backed up by sanctions and if nescessary military blackmail.
    It works like this: you own the right to run the world currency which you can print at will. You then borrow money from the rich privately owned banks and from other countries and accumulate much more debt than you can ever pay. You of course also own the rating agencies who continue to give you triple A rating whilst reducing to junk assets owned by others with far less debt but who are lesser placed. This money you borrowed is then used to build up the largest most lethal army in the world but also serves to suck up all of the surplus money in world economy thus diverting it from useful investment that may also create rivals or alternatives. Any dissent from following this world order will be severely punished by illegal sanctions and if nescessary actual military intervention. Never mind people talking about oil wars, the underlying thread in all this is the primacy of the Dollar. It can then become clearer what is happening. Even Brexit has probably nothing to do with manufacturing or growing food but much more concerned with how the money markets can continue to serve this constant theft in which we all have to contribute to the majority and the world resources impoverishment. But this very basic financial model of international neoliberal economics barely gets a mention.

    • Dave

      Hitler threatened the City of London by tacking back control of German money, hence the war. Its probably the same reason for hostility to Islam as it teaches against usury, but the Church it appears has gone quiet on banking reform.

  • Sharp Ears

    The Israel loving Priti Patel speaks. What evil.

    Perhaps she would like another famine in Ireland.

    ‘Brexiteer Priti Patel says UK should threaten Ireland with no deal Brexit food shortages
    December 7, 2018
    Disgraced former minister Priti Patel is in hot water again today – for gleefully suggesting that the threat of food shortages in a no deal Brexit could be used to encourage Ireland to drop their insistence on a backstop to prevent a hard border across Ireland.’

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/brexiteer-priti-patel-says-uk-should-threaten-ireland-with-no-deal-brexit-food-shortages/07/12/

    • BrianFujisan

      I was going to post on this yesterday..amomg other things.. Cheers Big Ears..

      I read into all that, it’s pretty Horrible the starving, and Genocide.. They did have Plenty to eat..but the cnts took the other foods , aids..

      Thank you to some help from the Choctaw Nation –

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f8gmuhpGgk

      • Molloy

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        B and S — Yes. Patel simply a psychopath. Useful idiot for the next-one-above-her psychopath.

        Who the feck$ voting for these psychos?!

  • Sharp Ears

    Such great timing from the Tories whose Universal Credit comes to North Kensington just before Christmas.

    ‘The MP whose seat is home to Grenfell Tower has urged the government to delay next week’s launch of Universal Credit in the area, saying it could leave survivors without income at Christmas.’

    BBC News – Grenfell Tower MP calls for Universal Credit launch delay
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46484217

    • Molloy

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      SE — Thank you.

      A real human being, in N Kensington, would be out on the street 24/7?

      The rest is just talk and posturing. (Like the $shite ‘leader’ who visited the food bank.)

      Sláinte

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