Exit Obama in a Cloud of Disillusion, Delusion and Deceit 776


I had promised myself and my family that on this holiday I would do nothing but relax. However events have overtaken my good intentions. I find myself in the unusual position of having twice been in a position to know directly that governments were lying in globe-shaking events, firstly Iraqi WMD and now the “Russian hacks”.

Anybody who believes the latest report issued by Obama as “proof” provides anything of the sort is very easily impressed by some entirely meaningless diagrams. William Binney, who was Technical Director at the NSA and actually designed their surveillance capabilities, has advised me by email. It is plain from the report itself that the Russian groups discussed have been under targeted NSA surveillance for a period longer than the timeframe for the DNC and Podesta leaks. It is therefore inconceivable that the NSA would not have detected and traced those particular data flows and they would be saved. In other words, the NSA would have the actual hack on record, would be able to recognise the emails themselves and tell you exactly the second the transmission or transmissions took place and how they were routed. They would be able to give you date, time and IP addresses. In fact, not only do they produce no evidence of this kind, they do not even claim to have this kind of definite evidence.

Secondly, Bill points out that WikiLeaks is in itself a top priority target and any transmission to WikiLeaks or any of its major operatives would be tracked, captured and saved by NSA as a matter of routine. The exact route and date of the transmission or transmissions of the particular emails to WikiLeaks would be available. In fact, not only does the report not make this information available, it makes no claim at all to know anything about how the information was got to WikiLeaks.

Of course Russian hackers exist. They attack this blog pretty well continually – as do hackers from the USA and many other countries. Of course there have been attempted Russian hacks of the DNC. But the report gives no evidence at all of the alleged successful hack that transmitted these particular emails, nor any evidence of the connection between the hackers and the Russian government, let alone Putin.

There could be no evidence because in reality these were leaks, not hacks. The report is, frankly, a pile of complete and utter dross. To base grave accusations of election hacking on this report is ludicrous. Obama has been a severe disappointment to all progressive thinkers in virtually every possible way. He now goes out of power with absolutely no grace and in a storm of delusion and deceit. His purpose is apparently to weaken Trump politically, but to achieve that at the expense of heightening tensions with Russia to Cold War levels, is shameful. The very pettiness of Obama’s tongue out to Putin – minor sanctions and expelling some diplomatic families – itself shows that Obama is lying about the pretext. If he really believed that Russia had “hacked the election”, surely that would require a much less feeble response. By refusing to retaliate, Russia has shown the kind of polish that eludes Obama as he takes his empty charisma and presentational skills into a no doubt lucrative future in the private sector.


776 thoughts on “Exit Obama in a Cloud of Disillusion, Delusion and Deceit

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  • Sasha Smirnoff

    I, as an insignificant speck of dust in the great (and small) scheme of things, want to express my appreciation for and admiration of your good work. It’s heartening to hear such an articulate voice speaking the unvarnished truth – and I will do my tiny bit to propagate it. Enough specks will make for a critical mass, God willing!
    Happy New Year!

    • Gilly's Gin

      Hear! Hear! We are reminded by Sr Macrina Wiederkehr in her beautiful book A Tree Full of Angels, of our being frail and glorious at the same time.

      Kudos to Craig Murray and the wonderful and diverse community that this blog has attracted.

      Happy New Year to All

      • johnf

        My feelings exactly.

        In times like this of darkness and lies, light and truth are all the more vital.

        Many future Happy New Years.

  • DEFCON 1

    Its not Obama, its the US deep state sacrificing its highest asset in a last desperate attempt at preventing a Trump ascension to power. What more can we expect in the next 20 days knowing Trump will find it difficult to get a double with his hair and small hands !!

  • Mari

    It is unfortunate our holidays have been strained under this weight, but we are better off knowing the painful truth that we’ve been had. He’s undertaken activity that needs to be examined under legal microscope, and to hear him declare that he’s going to “stick around” in DC after his term just nauseates.
    Thanks for helping hold his and other’s feet to the fire.

  • Dave

    It was a desperate move and self defeating, because the CIA must have considered the Russians wouldn’t retaliate, making the US expulsions appear petty and personal thus undermining the credibility of any further attempts to stop Trump. As you say it seems Obama is prepared to humiliate himself to secure his pension. I know rich men can still be bought, but Trump’s wealth is a reason he can be more independent minded.

    • lysias

      Bureaucrats are subject to groupthink and loath to think outside the box. Putin’s countermove may not even have occurred to them. Or, if it had occurred to one or two of them, they may not have dared to express such a heretical thought. Or anyone imaginative enough to think of the countermove may secretly have hoped that the sanctions imposition would fail.

  • Deborah Berns

    “empty charisma” an unexpected word juxtaposition worthy of Macaulay.
    Happy New Year
    from A fan of yours in London

        • Resident Dissident

          Just a hint to the Russian Ambassador to the UK – if you are getting the approval of Macky and Sharp Ears you are almost certainly getting something wrong.

        • Macky

          Here some classy diplomacy for you to enjoy ! 😀

          “December 30, 2016

          We regard the recent unfriendly steps taken by the outgoing US administration as provocative and aimed at further weakening the Russia-US relationship. This runs contrary to the fundamental interests of both the Russian and American people. Considering the global security responsibilities of Russia and the United States, this is also damaging to international relations as a whole.

          As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

          The diplomats who are returning to Russia will spend the New Year’s holidays with their families and friends. We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of US diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin.

          It is regrettable that the Obama Administration is ending its term in this manner. Nevertheless, I offer my New Year greetings to President Obama and his family.

          My season’s greetings also to President-elect Donald Trump and the American people.

          I wish all of you happiness and prosperity.”

          Can you guess from who ?! 😀

          • Habbabkuk

            What a pity the Russians didn’t deploy the same classy diplomacy when it came to the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine 🙂

            ++++++++++++++++

            More generally though, does it not smack of a certain desperation on the part of some people that they should elevate President Putin’s decision not to retaliate to the level of an act of supreme statesmanship and the acme of “classy diplomacy”? Whereas, in the real world, Russia has fewer friends and emulators nowadays than had the Soviet Union in its time. The cries of glee and jubilation from the useful idiots fool no one 🙂

      • Sharp Ears

        Another Mail article which exposes the infantile nature of the US SIS by their choice of codenames –
        ”CosmicDuke,’ ‘CrouchingYeti,’ ‘Energetic Bear,’ ‘Onion Duke,’ ‘Sandworm’ and ‘Tiny Baron”

        U.S. intelligence agencies point finger at Russia’s ‘Grizzly Steppe’ operation for Democratic Party cyber attacks as they give hacking groups nicknames like ‘Crouching Yeti’ and ‘Sandworm’
        The FBI and Homeland Security Departments released a report on Thursday describing cyber attacks by Russian state actors
        The ‘spearphishing’ exploits hit the Democratic National Committee along with universities, government agencies, corporations and other targets
        The Obama administration leveled new sanctions against Russia on Thursday
        President-elect Donald Trump called for America to ‘move on to bigger and better things’ but promised to meet with intelligence agencies next week
        The U.S. government’s pet names for the hackers include ‘Cosmic Duke,’ ‘Crouching Yeti,’ ‘Energetic Bear,’ ‘Onion Duke,’ ‘Sandworm’ and ‘Tiny Baron’
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4074710/U-S-intelligence-agencies-point-finger-Russia-s-Grizzly-Steppe-operation-Democratic-Party-cyber-attacks-hacking-groups-nicknames-like-CrouchingYeti-Sandworm.html

    • Resident Dissident

      Why do you think that Putin’s regime has the right to be a moral arbiter on electoral matters? Perhaps you should remember what the leader of the Russian Communists said about the last Parliamentary elections in Russia

      “There has been massive, multimillion ballot stuffing with only one party marked,” Zyuganov charged. “Otherwise the mathematics we have been fed on the giant screen of the Central Election Commission couldn’t have been possible.”

      Why does the Russian Embassy in the UK feel that it has a role in interfering in US matters from here in the UK – perhaps the ambassador should be called in and told that he should not be using his position for such childish antics?

  • Michael Scurfield

    I think there are a lot of things to Obama that are conflicting.
    Just several weeks ago I was Vientiane, Lao. And visited the Cope museum, for victims of Unexplosed ordinance; cluster bombs that were dropped intentionally by the US. Even today there are still victims. Obama had been there recently and pledged 90 million for clearing the bombs. (Interested to see if this eventuates, especially, as the director is a FB friend).
    I finished a 2 year assignment as an Australian government volunteer worker at a university; Director of Studies in Vietnam in 2016.
    Obama visited and pledged guns for Vietnam.
    Neither of these events hit MSM, but both can be verified.
    I’ve come to the conclusion he’s either a show pony, and very good at it. Or he’s incredibly naive and believes stuff he’s told from certain agencies.
    He’s made a good stand on CC, but the rest, there is a lot more to it. The arms industry is incredibly powerful in the US, and I’d love to know what pressures are being brought against him.
    As I age I find myself being drawn back to Scotland, and feeling ashamed of being an Aussie.
    Happy Hogmanay to you all.
    Michael Scurfield

  • Gordon Hastie

    The Democrats in pathetic and delirious denial re their election humiliation – a party in hock to Wall Street that doesn’t give a shit about the people it pays lip service to, the shafting of Bernie, and HRC, the worst possible candidate they could have chosen for POTUS.

  • Resident Dissident

    “They would be able to give you date, time and IP addresses. In fact, not only do they produce no evidence of this kind, they do not even claim to have this kind of definite evidence.”

    “The exact route and date of the transmission or transmissions of the particular emails to WikiLeaks would be available. In fact, not only does the report not make this information available, it makes no claim at all to know anything about how the information was got to WikiLeaks. ”

    Why should they give such information, especially since to do so might prejudice further actions, legal or otherwise? The fact that no such information is disclosed does not provide evidence that it doesn’t exist – negatives cannot be proved even by the say so of Craig and his friends.

    • Jams O'Donnell

      They should give such information because otherwise anything they say is just an unjustified assertion, with no more standing or worth than any other totally unjustified assertion. Your willingness to swallow and defend such assertions says more about your own prejudices than anything else.

      On another level entirely, keep up the good work of truth-telling, Craig. Have a good New Year.

      • Shatnersrug

        RD is a sad liberal stooge and like all other sad liberal stooges has become the laughing stock in a game that they can’t even see.

  • John Goss

    As children we used to play cricket in the street. One kid when all the others told him he was ‘out’ said ‘If I’m out I’m taking my bat and ball in.” Obama is out. But he cannot walk with a good grace. Instead he takes a petulant swipe at those in the same game who are not ‘out’ but ‘in’.

    How can I get revenge on this childish president? Maybe I will delete the Christmas Card I got from Mr and Mrs Obama. That should do it! Grow up Obama. The kid did.

  • fred

    “If crowdstrike were tracing me just now they would think I am in Denmark. Yesterday it was the Netherlands. I use Tunnel Bear, one of scores of easily available VPN’s and believe me, the Russian FSB have much better resources.”

    “In other words, the NSA would have the actual hack on record, would be able to recognise the emails themselves and tell you exactly the second the transmission or transmissions took place and how they were routed. They would be able to give you date, time and IP addresses.”

    Neither argument convincing.

    • bevin

      And is the earth flat?
      The arguments Craig puts forward are more than convincing, they put an end to the discussion of these allegations by rational people.

      • fred

        A rational person would ask which of the two arguments, which seem to contradict each other, you believe to put an end to the discussion?

      • Resident Dissident

        You like putting an end to discussions don’t you. Something to do with starting the re-education I believe.

    • Republicofscotland

      “Neither argument convincing.”

      _________

      Far more convincing than, Theresa May ‘s Brexit plan or the unionst dross, that its “broad shoulders” shall save the day.

      • fred

        We were discussing the hacking of DNC emails.

        Do try to stay on topic at least for the first page of comments.

        • Ben

          Were we? I thought we were were discussing the glass-half-full leftist Obama and his failure to reverse six decades of Western adventurism. Of course it’s difficult to discuss the hacking without evidence, but we sure can throw confetti at Trump with damn little evidence of what he is and what he will actually do.

          • fred

            I don’t mind discussing the “glass half full” leftists or the “glass half empty” rightists but it would be nice to do it without the “them bastards at Westminster stole half our glass” Nationalists intruding on every subject.

          • Ben

            Fred; Punching through progressive crust is a lonely job. But I’ve only been at it since the election, whereas you have repeated your points for a couple of years now, eh?

            It’s only lately I understand the disdain conservatives have for them.

        • Republicofscotland

          “We were discussing the hacking of DNC emails.”

          _________

          Why would you, want to discuss something that didn’t happen?

          Maybe you could discuss, SLAB’s leaked document to the Herald newspaper, by a insiders of the dying unionist branch.

          In which they (Labour) are predicting a near wipe out, next year in the council elections.

          And what is their solution to the inevitable (agonising death of the Labour branch office in Scotland) too only contest councils they might win, with the aid of the Tories and the Libdems, Judase’s stick together it seems.

          http://www.thenational.scot/politics/14995642.Labour_s_own_poll_says_it_could_be_all_but_wiped_out_at_council_elections/?ref=mr&lp=2

    • Tony_0pmoc

      fred, who are you quoting?

      VPN’s are like a Red Flag to a Bull. They highlight to the people who monitor such things, that you may have something to hide. I admit VPN’s are occasionally useful, if you have been a very naughty boy and have been fairly comprehensively banned from some websites – you would just like to read, but I seriously would not recommend them – if you don’t want the heavy mob knocking on your door.

      Tony

    • Clark

      Good article. This quote seems particularly significant:

      “Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason. Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it,”

      this entire assignment of blame against the Russian government is looking more and more like a domestic political operation run by the White House that relied heavily on questionable intelligence generated by a for-profit cybersecurity firm with a vested interest in selling ‘attribution-as-a-service,’” Carr stated

      So who are Crowdstrike? Their CTO Dmitri Alperovitch

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch

      is a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council think tank, whose “real strength lies in its connections to influential policy makers”:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Council

      In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama’s new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.[3] In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization’s Board of Directors until January 2014, when former ambassador to China and governor of Utah Jon Huntsman, Jr.[4] was appointed.
      […]
      n September 2014, The Atlantic Council hired Call of Duty: Black Ops series director Dave Anthony as a nonresident senior fellow.
      […]
      The Council often hosts events with sitting heads of state and government, including former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili,[12] Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk,[13] and former Latvian President Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga.[14]

      It all looks very partisan to me, and I’m reminded of “Atlantic Bridge”.

  • Michael McNulty

    It has been clear for some time that the outright lies and pettiness of the last two US administrations means the US has sunk to the politics of children. Maybe that’s why the US is so dangerous.

    • Michael McNulty

      For the previous administration we need only remember there’s no more French fries, they’re freedom fries. That beauty must surely be the work of George “The French don’t have a word for imbecile” W Bush.

  • MJ

    It has never been suggested that the leaked DNC documents were fabricated or inauthentic in any way. They show how Clinton subverted the Democratic Party’s election process in order wrongfully to secure the party’s nomination for president. Had Bernie Sanders been allowed to receive the nomination there is a very good chance he would defeated Trump hands down.

    The real story of the leaks is not how they arrived in the public domain but the extent to which corruption has entered the US political system. For the Democrats in particular the leaks demonstrate the urgency with which they must reform their party structure to prevent this happening again.

    Instead however they appear to be arguing that it is scandalous that the documents were released in the first place because, if they hadn’t, Clinton would have won. Ho hum.

  • Mark Golding

    One might have called President Obama an asinine fool except of course this human is a cover for a void. Barack Obama does what he’s told to do. That’s why he was appointed in the first place.

    • Ben

      BINGO, Mark.

      Trump has either had his meeting or will shortly, for his marching orders.

      I see signs already.

  • Clark

    Note that the document’s own number (as appears in the URL) appends an “A” to the Reference Number. It seems that the document was amended, and associated .csv and STIX files were added to, on December 29, the day the report was released:

    https://www.us-cert.gov/security-publications/GRIZZLY-STEPPE-Russian-Malicious-Cyber-Activity

    Revisions
    – December 29, 2016: Initial release
    – December 29, 2016: Updated CSV and STIX xml files with additional indicators
    – December 29, 2016: Replaced JAR-16-20296 with JAR-16-20296A, which contains corrected NCCIC contact information

    The original JAR-16-20296 doesn’t seem to be found anywhere by Google.

  • bevin

    This entire episode is a reminder that the watchword of the political insiders in Washington is something on the lines of HL Mencken’s dictum: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
    This story and the efforts to sustain its credibility are a perfect example of the arrogance of the people who ran Clinton’s campaign and have run the White House for the past eight years. The contempt that they have for the people is matched only by the exaggerated, irrational trust that they have in the power of the media to impose improbabilities on public opinion.
    Hoist by his own petard Barack Obama leaves office as naked as the day that he was born in all but earthly goods.

    • Shatnersrug

      It’s very sad, isn’t it? I do wonder sometimes if the powers that be said to him “son, you’re the first black president, that’s your contribution to liberalism, now you’ll do as we say” but I fear not. I think he was pretty active in his belief in war mongering.

      And frankly anyone paying attention to him before he was president could see that he was was an establishment fence sitter.

      His first two years he could have changed America but he spent the entire time babbling in about bipartisanship that flummoxed everyone.

      Never has an opportunity been so wasted. Well since the last democrat president, who was just an out and out crook.

      • Ben

        Indeed. Obama tripped the Progressive Light Electric until the progs understood he was just like them.

        Diplomatic/professional/kind/politically correct/condescending/weepy and tearful/empathetic.

        Kula Khan likes to ride his stallion over the humanitarians.

        It’s time to stop playing nice and get as tough as the opposition.

  • kashmiri

    Since when, Craig, political relations between empires are based on facts and truth? Sorry, your anger feels a bit misplaced, not to say naive. Whether Kremlin hacked into DNC or not is UTTERLY IRRELEVANT. Enough that they attempted to influence the US elections in many ways (of course, precisely what the Americans have been doing in many countries as well).

    Now, just as the Russians started branding ALL foreign-funded NGOs in Russia as “foreign agents”, implying these organisations represent foreign ( = hostile) interests, in the same way US administration decided to employ a narrative of Russian intereference in US domestic affairs – a narrative primarily meant for domestic, but also partly for international consumtion. That is nothing unusual, that was expected and that is fairly understandable given the ongoing tensions between the two powers. Your demands of presenting a legal proof in the form of IP address log, feels, uhm, weird.

    • MJ

      Craig is merely pointing out that had the Russians hacked the DNC, the NSA would have been able to produce the evidence. Seems a mundanely straightforward observation to make.

      • fred

        Likewise it would be reasonable to say that if a whistleblower leaked the emails Wikileaks would be able to say who it was.

        The same ploy was used about MH17, claims that America didn’t have satellite photos because they didn’t make them public. Truth was there was absolutely no reason for them to reveal to the world what their satellites are capable of.

        If it was a leak I can see why Wikileaks wouldn’t want to provide evidence and if it was a hack I can equally see why American intelligence wouldn’t want to provide evidence and I can see no reason why either would.

        • lysias

          They could have fuzzed up the photos enough to conceal what the satellites were capable of and still revealed enough to make their case.

    • lysias

      Trying to influence a foreign country’s election through conventional means would hardly be grounds for indignation. All great powers do it all the time. The U.S. has a long history of doing it.

      Some people apparently are shocked by the idea of an election being hacked. Even though I suspect that too is common practice. The U.S. cheating to assure a desired result in the 1948 Italian election is well established as a historical fact.

  • Republicofscotland

    Yes Obama’s actions towards Russia, have been very disappointing, in the last weeks of tenure. It’s pretty obvious that Obama’s intentions are to sour the relationship between the US, Russia, and Putin and Trump.

    Even though I not a fan of Trump, I think he’ll be smart enough to lift the recent sanctions, imposed by the bitter outgoing Obama adminstration, thus lowering the tension levels between the two nations.

    Thankfully Putin is also smart enough to know that the petty expulsions, are just a bitter parting shots from a POTUS, who achieved very little in his eight year tenure.

    However Obama’s tenure will have been a huge success to the Military Industrial Complex machine, for Obama is the longest wartime president in history. He couldn’t even muster the political will to close Guantanemo Bay.

    His successor, president- elect Donald Trump, if memory serves me , wants to keep the Guantanemo Bay, torture facility open.

    What will history say of Obama’s eight years, as POTUS? Will it be remember for a cruel sense of false hope?

  • Phil the ex-frog

    “Obama has been a severe disappointment to all progressive thinkers in virtually every possible way.”

    More fool team progressive to nurse expectations in the first place.

    • Sharp Ears

      How many Americans fell for the Obama Hope and Change prop?

      69,498,516 in 2008 – 52.9%
      65,915,795 in 2012 – 51.1%

      • Phil the ex-frog

        Taking into account that most people don’t vote the percentage of adults who didn’t vote for Obama was:

        2008: 70.01%
        2012: 72.32%

        The data does not make clear how many of these were not ‘progressive thinkers’ though.

  • Roderick Russell

    The recent US Presidential election was notable for the extraordinary bias of the main stream media –and probably some of the spy agencies as well – in their continuous one sided propaganda campaign pro Clinton and against Trump. The reason for this bias is that Trump campaigned against the establishments cross party consensus in favour of neo-conservatism and globalization.

    This recent election will be remembered for its reporting bias. Whether one agrees with them or not, the fact is that the media and others certainly attempted to rig the result with their continuous one-sided propaganda campaign. I think that what’s going on here is a disinformation campaign designed to persuade the public that, though there was rigging, it was actually the other way around.

    Craig, may I wish you and yours – and all who read your blog – A HAPPY & PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

  • eldudeabides

    Well said, Craig.

    Not one ounce of evidence is presented by Obama and his CIA/NSA pals.

    Instead he leaves office, as you very aptly describe it, under a cloud of disillusion, delusion and deceit.

    The US regime, and it’s puppet regimes across the first world, and their propaganda tool, the MSM, are totally compromised. Like the boy that cried ‘wolf’, the masses now don’t believe a single thing they say.

    I am not a fan of Trump (especially over his stance on climate change). But I have admiration for the way that he is bypassing the corrupt MSM and going direct to the people, via tweets.

    PS – Happy new year to Craig, and everyone who comments here.

    the dude bides

    ****Officially Banned From the Guardiana****

    • Habbabkuk

      Yes, we all know by now you’ve been stopped from posting on The Guardian’s website, your bravery has been acknowledged by the cream of this blog, you’ve established your credentials as a worthy “commenter” on here and so there’s really no need to tell us every time you post.

      I somehow suspect that the tone and content of your future posts on CM ( I fear they will be numerous) will give the discerning reader a clue as to why the The Guardian decided to dispense with your wisdom.

      • giyane

        Habby, we know the Guardian is owned by corporate America. I have never succeeded in getting a message through their moderacy, nor would I want to now that I know its owners.
        But the other day I saw a 2015 reg MG. Who owns that label? It’s bum looked distinctly Nissan ugly. Is it Chinese, part of the Rover ( grown man tears ) legacy? I couldn’t see any sign of a BM logo.

        Is it that in this post truth age one is not allowed to own a thing of honour, integrity or beauty?

        • Habbabkuk

          ” I have never succeeded in getting a message through their moderacy, ”
          _____________________

          If the stuff you tried to get through was anything like the stuff you post on here, Giyane, then I can’t say I’m surprised.

        • fwl

          Check out Frontline for a new re-engineered MGB. Costly, but beautiful and understated. Happy new year all.

      • Tony_0pmoc

        Habbabkuk,

        In the spirit of Vlad the Lad, I wish you a happy new year.

        I have never come across eldudeabides before, but anyone who actually succeeded in posting on the Guardian for any length of time, without being banned, should be regarded as exceedingly dodgy.

        Tony

  • Sharp Ears

    ‘Fidelity. Bravery. Integrity.’ Like one of those seals they stick on a pack of sausages to assure the purchaser of their quality.
    35,000 employees.
    https://www.fbi.gov/history/seal-motto

    https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure
    Comey, the current director, had a spell as deputy attorney general at the Dept of Justice from 2003 -2005 (ie those critical first years of the Bush/Blair war on Iraq when so many crimes against humanity were committed)

    At Lockheed Martin 2005 – 2010 ‘as general counsel and senior vice president at defense contractor Lockheed Martin’.

    Handy that!

    2010 – 2013 Bridgewater Associates – a massive hedge fund with $150billion in funds
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgewater_Associates

    Weirder than weird.
    ‘Schism Atop Bridgewater, the World’s Largest Hedge Fund
    Bridgewater Associates founder Ray Dalio and presumed heir apparent Greg Jensen called for votes on each other’s conduct; using the ‘Pain Button’ Feb. 5, 2016
    Employees at the world’s largest hedge fund carry around iPads with an app called “Pain Button.” It tracks negative feelings like “angry,” “frustrated” and “sad” with the twist of on-screen dials.’

    A stench from across the waters of the Atlantic.

    Summoned by Obomber in 2013. Will he be looking for a new niche now?

  • lysias

    Wayne Madsen proved that Obama was and is a CIA version of a Manchurian candidate (let us call him a Langleyan candidate): created and advanced throughout his career by the CIA; family CIA background (mother, maternal grandparents, father, stepfather); first employed after graduation from Columbia at a firm that the firm’s owner admitted worked for the CIA; mysteriously concealed academic record; unusually rapid political advancement; reversal of position in 2008 on the bill that gave immunity to the telecom companies for cooperating on illegal government surveillance; strange insistence on hiring CIA veteran John Brennan for higher and higher positions; curious deference as president to the national security state.

    It’s all there in Madsen’s 2012 book “The Manufacturing of a President”.

    • Habbabkuk

      Wayne Madsen proved nothing. He’s just another conspiracy theorist making a quick buck by writing the equivalent of schoolboy mystery stories.

      His book is crap – as crappy as the Trump-supported charges that Obama was ineligible by birth to become POTUS.

    • Habbabkuk

      I have just read the Wikipedia article on Wayne Madsen and suggest that others do the same.

      The man appears to be a complete nutcase – but make up your own mind….

      Here is the bit which talks about him and President Obama:

      “Madsen has claimed that Obama is gay. The Nation writing on that conspiracy theory reported that Wayne Madsen “is the source on Obama’s visits to the bath house and who revealed how Obama used basketball pickup games to pick up men. Obama, Madsen says, had homosexual trysts with Representative Artur Davis, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and Senate majority leader Bill Frist!”[38][39]

      On June 9, 2008 he reported that unnamed “GOP dirty tricks operatives” had found a Kenyan birth certificate registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. on August 4, 1961. “However, the registration is a common practice in African countries whose citizens abroad have families with foreign nationals.”[40] This birth certificate was a cornerstone of the “Kenyan Born” subset of the birther conspiracy theories, and Madsen’s article was cited in a Washington state petition challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president.[41]

      In 2012, Madsen self-published a book Manufacturing a President that said that Barack Obama was a creation of the CIA.” (Note the “self-published!)

      I wonder why our Transatlantic Friend spends time recommending garbage like that? Could it be because Wayne Madsen was also a US Navy officer for a while.

      (BTW, Wayne Madsen resigned from the Navy after failing to get promoted beyond the rank of lieutenant.)

    • lysias

      People are also free to order Madsen’s book (available from Amazon), read it, and evaluate his evidence for themselves.

      Madsen is far from the only iconoclastic author who has had to self-publish. Sibel Edmonds is another conspicuous example.

      Andrew Kreig in his 2013 book “Presidential Puppetry: Obama, Romney, and Their Masters”, besides having high praise for Madsen and his book, also explains Madsen’s difficulties getting published.

      • Habbabkuk

        “Andrew Kreig in his 2013 book “Presidential Puppetry: Obama, Romney, and Their Masters”, besides having high praise for Madsen and his book,”
        ____________________

        Nutters covering the same line of country tend to praise each other.

  • Ben

    Heh. I’ll tell you the same thing the alt-right hears from me because of the temporary alliance between those disparate and near-opposite members of this political process

    You will be dealing with Trump and you don’t know what he is yet, do you? Keep whistling through that graveyard until you see that Zombie arise with his true persona.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46134.htm

    • philw

      Go on then, tell us.

      Dont think there are too many Trump fans on here, just people who see him as slightly less scary than HRC. He seems an average rich American white man, which is scary enough given the power at his disposal. Its what the deep state will turn him into thats really scary.

      • Ben

        It’s delusional to believe opposing Hillary was de facto support for Trump.

        Now that you’ve been told twice, did it sink in?

          • bevin

            Just as it is clear that voting for Hillary was voting for Al Qaeda in Syria, more war in Yemen, confrontations with-including secret guerrilla wars in-Russia. And a ringing endorsement of what she did in Libya and the way that she greeted Ghadaffi’s assassination.
            And much much more including attacks in Social Security by the Democrats as well as Republicans.
            Not to mention full support for the DNC in its criminal rigging of the primaries.
            You have much to be ashamed of.

          • Ben

            Bevin, or should I say Neville…you’ll soon see Trump as another boil on your progressive ass. Don’t lance it right away, just as a reminder.

        • philw

          You haven’t answered.

          “You will be dealing with Trump and you don’t know what he is yet, do you?”

          Tell us.

          • Ben

            Are you saying you have an inside track into his motivation? Craig seems to know Trump will be at least marginally more acceptable than Hillary would have been. He knows the source of the leaks. Are you swallowing his Hemlock?

            You don’t know. I don’t know. Craig nor anyone else knows what Trump is, but he is displaying the earmarks of Il Duce without even getting the trains to run on time yet.

            Maybe he is the antidote to the systemic rot in the West. Maybe he’s the critical mass that reverses trends of the past. But I’m not that much of a gambler that I would proudly proclaim his marginal possibilities will improve our lot in the short, or long-term. UK progressives seem to think they can wash their hands of him if he proves duplicitous (VERY likely). Don’t deceive yourself. Your oppo to Hillary was a default to the possibility of a regional dicktator who will drag Europe down with him. You have some responsibility should that occur.

        • lysias

          It was clear that electing Hillary meant war with Russia. Whatever Trump does, he pretty clearly won’t do that.

          Not wanting to promote Hillary’s election and world war was the most impirtant reason I voted for Jill Stein.

      • lysias

        Trump is known to be thin-skinned, and the CIA and the rest of the deep state have certainly conspicuously defied him.

        When you go after the king, you had better succeed in killing him. Trump is most definitely still standing, and, with his privately hired security, he may well survive long enough to do what JFK wanted and smash the CIA and the rest of the deep state into a thousand pieces.

        • Habbabkuk

          Please stop hawking those tired old conspiracy theories and – more importantly – please stop hawking new ones on Craig’s blog. Go away and write a book about them instead.

        • Ben

          If Trump continues his war on the CIA, I give him about another year on this mortal coil.

          If he’s victorious, you know, on a superficial level, then he’s been absorbed.

          • lysias

            If the CIA does succeed in eliminating Trump, this time it will be clear to Trump’s numerous supporters who was responsible. The CIA will be digging its own grave.

          • Habbabkuk

            Lysias

            Be careful when you talk about people being eliminated lest you repeat your Greville Janner howler (that’s when you predicted that Mr Janner would meet a early – unnatural – death after his name came up in the paedophilia scandal)

          • Ben

            lysias; Yeah. That’s why they have been so unsuccessful eliminating obstacles.

            They know how plausible deniability works and no smoking gun will be available.

          • lysias

            You can only get away with the same scam so many times before people are on to you.

            Plenty of recent books have explained what really happened with the JFK assassination.

            Trumpist Web sites like Zero Hedge and Breitbart, which were instrumental in winning the election for Trump, are on to the CIA’s tricks.

  • RobG

    A happy ‘may you live in interesting times’ to everyone on this blog.

    (it was never an old Chinese curse, and I’m sure that most will realise that I’m wishing everyone the best)

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